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Your Personal Virtual Heart | Natalia Trayanova | TEDxJHU


[Applause]

[Applause] how many of you have recently been on a

how many of you have recently been on a

how many of you have recently been on a modern jet commercial jet like a Boeing

modern jet commercial jet like a Boeing

modern jet commercial jet like a Boeing Dreamliner or a Airbus did you know that

Dreamliner or a Airbus did you know that

Dreamliner or a Airbus did you know that these Jets have been entirely designed

these Jets have been entirely designed

these Jets have been entirely designed using computer simulations we trust

using computer simulations we trust

using computer simulations we trust these airplanes with our lives but when

these airplanes with our lives but when

these airplanes with our lives but when it comes to our own human health things

it comes to our own human health things

it comes to our own human health things are actually quite different computer

are actually quite different computer

are actually quite different computer simulations have rarely been used in

simulations have rarely been used in

simulations have rarely been used in medicine in medicine we have a different

medicine in medicine we have a different

medicine in medicine we have a different approach

approach

approach it’s called trial and error trial and

it’s called trial and error trial and

it’s called trial and error trial and error to make a decision for

error to make a decision for

error to make a decision for life-threatening diseases today I want

life-threatening diseases today I want

life-threatening diseases today I want to talk to you about how we in my lab

to talk to you about how we in my lab

to talk to you about how we in my lab and my collaborators want to change that

and my collaborators want to change that

and my collaborators want to change that we want to bring computer simulation to

we want to bring computer simulation to

we want to bring computer simulation to the clinical practice so decision

the clinical practice so decision

the clinical practice so decision precise decisions can be made about

precise decisions can be made about

precise decisions can be made about treatments in our case for heart disease

treatments in our case for heart disease

treatments in our case for heart disease I am a professor of biomedical

I am a professor of biomedical

I am a professor of biomedical engineering and medicine although

engineering and medicine although

engineering and medicine although actually I have neither engineering

actually I have neither engineering

actually I have neither engineering degree nor MD I’m actually a physicist

degree nor MD I’m actually a physicist

degree nor MD I’m actually a physicist by education but in my lab we build what

by education but in my lab we build what

by education but in my lab we build what we called personalized virtual heart

we called personalized virtual heart

we called personalized virtual heart those are computer models of the

those are computer models of the

those are computer models of the patient’s hearts so we construct them

patient’s hearts so we construct them

patient’s hearts so we construct them from the MRI scans of the patient now we

from the MRI scans of the patient now we

from the MRI scans of the patient now we work mostly with patients who have life

work mostly with patients who have life

work mostly with patients who have life threatening disorders in their heart

threatening disorders in their heart

threatening disorders in their heart rhythms they are called arrhythmias so

rhythms they are called arrhythmias so

rhythms they are called arrhythmias so we build these virtual hearts with the

we build these virtual hearts with the

we build these virtual hearts with the MRI scans and also with the knowledge

MRI scans and also with the knowledge

MRI scans and also with the knowledge that we have of the biology and the

that we have of the biology and the

that we have of the biology and the physics of the electricity in the heart

physics of the electricity in the heart

physics of the electricity in the heart and then we use those to predict what

and then we use those to predict what

and then we use those to predict what would be the best treatment for a given

would be the best treatment for a given

would be the best treatment for a given disorder in the patient now you may ask

disorder in the patient now you may ask

disorder in the patient now you may ask under what circumstance one would use a

under what circumstance one would use a

under what circumstance one would use a virtual heart to make a decision about

virtual heart to make a decision about

virtual heart to make a decision about the patient well imagine the following

the patient well imagine the following

the patient well imagine the following situation um somebody has a heart attack

situation um somebody has a heart attack

situation um somebody has a heart attack they survive it however during the

they survive it however during the

they survive it however during the crisis part of the heart muscle has died

crisis part of the heart muscle has died

crisis part of the heart muscle has died because it has been deprived of oxygen

because it has been deprived of oxygen

because it has been deprived of oxygen so there is scar in the heart and the

so there is scar in the heart and the

so there is scar in the heart and the scar interferes with the electrical

scar interferes with the electrical

scar interferes with the electrical function of the heart of with the

function of the heart of with the

function of the heart of with the heartbeat and the patient can suddenly

heartbeat and the patient can suddenly

heartbeat and the patient can suddenly die unexpectedly and suddenly for

die unexpectedly and suddenly for

die unexpectedly and suddenly for patients like this the cardiologist will

patients like this the cardiologist will

patients like this the cardiologist will implant a defibrillator in the patient’s

implant a defibrillator in the patient’s

implant a defibrillator in the patient’s chest these a device is very much like

chest these a device is very much like

chest these a device is very much like the external defibrillators that you

the external defibrillators that you

the external defibrillators that you have seen in ambulances or emergency

have seen in ambulances or emergency

have seen in ambulances or emergency rooms they shock the heart back into

rooms they shock the heart back into

rooms they shock the heart back into rhythm and save the patient’s life now

rhythm and save the patient’s life now

rhythm and save the patient’s life now how would a doctor make a decision

how would a doctor make a decision

how would a doctor make a decision whether to implant the device it’s not a

whether to implant the device it’s not a

whether to implant the device it’s not a simple task the procedure is invasive

simple task the procedure is invasive

simple task the procedure is invasive but most importantly it carries numerous

but most importantly it carries numerous

but most importantly it carries numerous risks for the patient’s risk of

risks for the patient’s risk of

risks for the patient’s risk of infections risks of unexpected very

infections risks of unexpected very

infections risks of unexpected very painful shocks that can occur at any

painful shocks that can occur at any

painful shocks that can occur at any time because of that the decision has to

time because of that the decision has to

time because of that the decision has to be carefully made how is this decision

be carefully made how is this decision

be carefully made how is this decision made currently well in the clinic the

made currently well in the clinic the

made currently well in the clinic the doctor uses one clinical measurement to

doctor uses one clinical measurement to

doctor uses one clinical measurement to make this important decision it is

make this important decision it is

make this important decision it is called ejection fraction ejection

called ejection fraction ejection

called ejection fraction ejection fraction is the amount of blood that’s

fraction is the amount of blood that’s

fraction is the amount of blood that’s pumped out of the heart with every

pumped out of the heart with every

pumped out of the heart with every heartbeat so when this number is below

heartbeat so when this number is below

heartbeat so when this number is below 35% then the patient is considered at

35% then the patient is considered at

35% then the patient is considered at risk of dying and the defibrillator will

risk of dying and the defibrillator will

risk of dying and the defibrillator will be implanted well turns out this is a

be implanted well turns out this is a

be implanted well turns out this is a very inaccurate predictor of arrhythmia

very inaccurate predictor of arrhythmia

very inaccurate predictor of arrhythmia why because ejection fraction

why because ejection fraction

why because ejection fraction is a number that describes blood flow it

is a number that describes blood flow it

is a number that describes blood flow it has nothing to do with the electricity

has nothing to do with the electricity

has nothing to do with the electricity of the heart it’s like you have an

of the heart it’s like you have an

of the heart it’s like you have an electrical problem at home

electrical problem at home

electrical problem at home but you call you call the plumber to fix

but you call you call the plumber to fix

but you call you call the plumber to fix it so that’s the same situation because

it so that’s the same situation because

it so that’s the same situation because of that many patients will get devices

of that many patients will get devices

of that many patients will get devices that they do not need as a matter of

that they do not need as a matter of

that they do not need as a matter of fact for one person’s life saved by a

fact for one person’s life saved by a

fact for one person’s life saved by a defibrillator 20 patients will receive

defibrillator 20 patients will receive

defibrillator 20 patients will receive unnecessary devices which is even worse

unnecessary devices which is even worse

unnecessary devices which is even worse that inaccurate criterion misses many

that inaccurate criterion misses many

that inaccurate criterion misses many patients that are at risk of sudden

patients that are at risk of sudden

patients that are at risk of sudden cardiac death and indeed they will go to

cardiac death and indeed they will go to

cardiac death and indeed they will go to die sometimes in the prime of their life

die sometimes in the prime of their life

die sometimes in the prime of their life so the situation is actually

so the situation is actually

so the situation is actually unacceptable and a change needs to be

unacceptable and a change needs to be

unacceptable and a change needs to be made in my lab we are using these

made in my lab we are using these

made in my lab we are using these personalized virtual hearts to try to

personalized virtual hearts to try to

personalized virtual hearts to try to make a better prediction whether a

make a better prediction whether a

make a better prediction whether a patient will die suddenly of cardiac

patient will die suddenly of cardiac

patient will die suddenly of cardiac death and needs a defibrillator to

death and needs a defibrillator to

death and needs a defibrillator to protect them so we use the virtual

protect them so we use the virtual

protect them so we use the virtual hearts we developed from the MRI scans

hearts we developed from the MRI scans

hearts we developed from the MRI scans and then we use them to figure out in

and then we use them to figure out in

and then we use them to figure out in depth what is the specific rhythm

depth what is the specific rhythm

depth what is the specific rhythm disorder in that patient so we can

disorder in that patient so we can

disorder in that patient so we can devise the best treatment we are able to

devise the best treatment we are able to

devise the best treatment we are able to do that because we can poke and prod and

do that because we can poke and prod and

do that because we can poke and prod and stress out that virtual organ that

stress out that virtual organ that

stress out that virtual organ that otherwise you cannot do in a

otherwise you cannot do in a

otherwise you cannot do in a flesh-and-blood heart that allows us to

flesh-and-blood heart that allows us to

flesh-and-blood heart that allows us to do this so we had a clinical study and

do this so we had a clinical study and

do this so we had a clinical study and we used our approach that we call VAR

we used our approach that we call VAR

we used our approach that we call VAR p–

p–

p– virtual heart arrhythmia risk predictor

virtual heart arrhythmia risk predictor

virtual heart arrhythmia risk predictor to assess whether a group of patients

to assess whether a group of patients

to assess whether a group of patients have certain probability of cardiac

have certain probability of cardiac

have certain probability of cardiac death and need defibrillators so what

death and need defibrillators so what

death and need defibrillators so what you see here now is 32 virtual hearts

you see here now is 32 virtual hearts

you see here now is 32 virtual hearts those are the models of

those are the models of

those are the models of patience heart they have the scarring

patience heart they have the scarring

patience heart they have the scarring because they all have survived the heart

because they all have survived the heart

because they all have survived the heart attack that’s the green and and yellow

attack that’s the green and and yellow

attack that’s the green and and yellow so they look kind of simple maybe to you

so they look kind of simple maybe to you

so they look kind of simple maybe to you but each of these hearts is comprised of

but each of these hearts is comprised of

but each of these hearts is comprised of about 10 million virtual cells in each

about 10 million virtual cells in each

about 10 million virtual cells in each of these cells has electrical signals

of these cells has electrical signals

of these cells has electrical signals and thought they all communicate

and thought they all communicate

and thought they all communicate together to determine the function of

together to determine the function of

together to determine the function of the organ so how do we know whether

the organ so how do we know whether

the organ so how do we know whether these virtual hearts will develop an

these virtual hearts will develop an

these virtual hearts will develop an arrhythmia well if an arrhythmia is

arrhythmia well if an arrhythmia is

arrhythmia well if an arrhythmia is exists in the patient’s heart it looks

exists in the patient’s heart it looks

exists in the patient’s heart it looks like a tornado an electrical storm so

like a tornado an electrical storm so

like a tornado an electrical storm so using our virtual hearts we predicted

using our virtual hearts we predicted

using our virtual hearts we predicted that 22 of these hearts will have an

that 22 of these hearts will have an

that 22 of these hearts will have an arrhythmia so the cells in these cards

arrhythmia so the cells in these cards

arrhythmia so the cells in these cards communicate it together and came up with

communicate it together and came up with

communicate it together and came up with the disturbance of the rhythm and in 10

the disturbance of the rhythm and in 10

the disturbance of the rhythm and in 10 of them we predicted they will not have

of them we predicted they will not have

of them we predicted they will not have although by the clinical criterion they

although by the clinical criterion they

although by the clinical criterion they all got defibrillators implanted so we

all got defibrillators implanted so we

all got defibrillators implanted so we believe that with using this approach we

believe that with using this approach we

believe that with using this approach we can decrease the number of unnecessary

can decrease the number of unnecessary

can decrease the number of unnecessary implantation of devices and save human

implantation of devices and save human

implantation of devices and save human life we completed that study with the

life we completed that study with the

life we completed that study with the number of patients that we had enrolled

number of patients that we had enrolled

number of patients that we had enrolled in it and then we finished indeed

in it and then we finished indeed

in it and then we finished indeed statistical analysis turned out we were

statistical analysis turned out we were

statistical analysis turned out we were way better than anything out there

way better than anything out there

way better than anything out there better the dejection fraction better

better the dejection fraction better

better the dejection fraction better than any other clinical assessment that

than any other clinical assessment that

than any other clinical assessment that has been attempted so this was the first

has been attempted so this was the first

has been attempted so this was the first big victory for our virtual heart

big victory for our virtual heart

big victory for our virtual heart approach I must say it has not been an

approach I must say it has not been an

approach I must say it has not been an easy road to get to this point science

easy road to get to this point science

easy road to get to this point science you may know is quite messy but the

you may know is quite messy but the

you may know is quite messy but the attempt to bring computational science

attempt to bring computational science

attempt to bring computational science together with medicine this is a tricky

together with medicine this is a tricky

together with medicine this is a tricky and long road and we have met so much

and long road and we have met so much

and long road and we have met so much disbelief so much rejection

disbelief so much rejection

disbelief so much rejection in this path I remember when I was a

in this path I remember when I was a

in this path I remember when I was a young professor and pretty much

young professor and pretty much

young professor and pretty much everything that we submitted for

everything that we submitted for

everything that we submitted for publication got rejected because we were

publication got rejected because we were

publication got rejected because we were building the first virtual heart nobody

building the first virtual heart nobody

building the first virtual heart nobody believed that it will be first possible

believed that it will be first possible

believed that it will be first possible and number two that it would be useful

and number two that it would be useful

and number two that it would be useful so we created the Wall of shame in my

so we created the Wall of shame in my

so we created the Wall of shame in my lab and we would paste every rejected

lab and we would paste every rejected

lab and we would paste every rejected paper every rejected grant every

paper every rejected grant every

paper every rejected grant every rejected abstract it was pretty full and

rejected abstract it was pretty full and

rejected abstract it was pretty full and we would look at that and instead of

we would look at that and instead of

we would look at that and instead of discouraging it us it actually it

discouraging it us it actually it

discouraging it us it actually it greatly inspired us to fight back to dig

greatly inspired us to fight back to dig

greatly inspired us to fight back to dig in in what we believed to get on that

in in what we believed to get on that

in in what we believed to get on that path that we to that vision that we had

path that we to that vision that we had

path that we to that vision that we had and here we are

and here we are

and here we are so if our approach indeed turns out to

so if our approach indeed turns out to

so if our approach indeed turns out to is to be better predictor of sudden

is to be better predictor of sudden

is to be better predictor of sudden cardiac that in a large group of patient

cardiac that in a large group of patient

cardiac that in a large group of patient patients of course then this would be an

patients of course then this would be an

patients of course then this would be an amazing triumph of what we are trying to

amazing triumph of what we are trying to

amazing triumph of what we are trying to do and again it is the importance is

do and again it is the importance is

do and again it is the importance is what it will bring to the patient

what it will bring to the patient

what it will bring to the patient prevention sudden cardiac death and the

prevention sudden cardiac death and the

prevention sudden cardiac death and the decrease of an unnecessary implantations

decrease of an unnecessary implantations

decrease of an unnecessary implantations you may ask what other things are you

you may ask what other things are you

you may ask what other things are you gonna do with these virtual hearts well

gonna do with these virtual hearts well

gonna do with these virtual hearts well we are currently working on a very cool

we are currently working on a very cool

we are currently working on a very cool approach to pure itness now curing

approach to pure itness now curing

approach to pure itness now curing correctness goes way beyond the

correctness goes way beyond the

correctness goes way beyond the implantable defibrillator the implant

implantable defibrillator the implant

implantable defibrillator the implant implantable defibrillator is a

implantable defibrillator is a

implantable defibrillator is a prevention device it’s not a cure but to

prevention device it’s not a cure but to

prevention device it’s not a cure but to cure an arrhythmia the physician has to

cure an arrhythmia the physician has to

cure an arrhythmia the physician has to find which parts of the heart are

find which parts of the heart are

find which parts of the heart are actually the rogue ones the ones that

actually the rogue ones the ones that

actually the rogue ones the ones that generate electrical signal that cause

generate electrical signal that cause

generate electrical signal that cause disturbance in the heart to do that they

disturbance in the heart to do that they

disturbance in the heart to do that they it’s really difficult task they have to

it’s really difficult task they have to

it’s really difficult task they have to find where they are and then they go and

find where they are and then they go and

find where they are and then they go and burn them out so they stop disturbing

burn them out so they stop disturbing

burn them out so they stop disturbing the rhythm this has to be done carefully

the rhythm this has to be done carefully

the rhythm this has to be done carefully because you don’t want to burn too much

because you don’t want to burn too much

because you don’t want to burn too much of the heart so the way it is done

of the heart so the way it is done

of the heart so the way it is done currently in the clinic

currently in the clinic

currently in the clinic a catheter is threaded to the patient’s

a catheter is threaded to the patient’s

a catheter is threaded to the patient’s heart and then painstakingly navigated

heart and then painstakingly navigated

heart and then painstakingly navigated actually I’m gonna go back to the

actually I’m gonna go back to the

actually I’m gonna go back to the personal hearth in pen stating he

personal hearth in pen stating he

personal hearth in pen stating he navigated to that point that they

navigated to that point that they

navigated to that point that they believe might be actually interrogation

believe might be actually interrogation

believe might be actually interrogation of the electrical signals takes a long

of the electrical signals takes a long

of the electrical signals takes a long long time to find these spots and it can

long time to find these spots and it can

long time to find these spots and it can last up to 12 hours it is actually

last up to 12 hours it is actually

last up to 12 hours it is actually carries numerous dangers and

carries numerous dangers and

carries numerous dangers and complications for the patients and on

complications for the patients and on

complications for the patients and on top of that it’s not accurate as a

top of that it’s not accurate as a

top of that it’s not accurate as a result of that the patient will receive

result of that the patient will receive

result of that the patient will receive many unnecessary burns so we are now

many unnecessary burns so we are now

many unnecessary burns so we are now using our virtual heart technology to

using our virtual heart technology to

using our virtual heart technology to help the physician make the decision

help the physician make the decision

help the physician make the decision where are these spots and to burn them

where are these spots and to burn them

where are these spots and to burn them so we are using the virtual heart

so we are using the virtual heart

so we are using the virtual heart approach exactly examining the specific

approach exactly examining the specific

approach exactly examining the specific arrhythmia of the patient and then the

arrhythmia of the patient and then the

arrhythmia of the patient and then the simulations determine which is the

simulations determine which is the

simulations determine which is the smallest burn and and also the least

smallest burn and and also the least

smallest burn and and also the least number of burns that need to be done in

number of burns that need to be done in

number of burns that need to be done in the patient to terminate all arrhythmias

the patient to terminate all arrhythmias

the patient to terminate all arrhythmias at once and so we do these calculations

at once and so we do these calculations

at once and so we do these calculations and we provide that to the clinicians

and we provide that to the clinicians

and we provide that to the clinicians and we are now in the clinic sitting

and we are now in the clinic sitting

and we are now in the clinic sitting there it’s a glass between us and the

there it’s a glass between us and the

there it’s a glass between us and the patient the patient’s right there and we

patient the patient’s right there and we

patient the patient’s right there and we sit there and we watch the physician

sit there and we watch the physician

sit there and we watch the physician navigate the catheter to a model

navigate the catheter to a model

navigate the catheter to a model predicted target in the patient’s heart

predicted target in the patient’s heart

predicted target in the patient’s heart and we sit with these headphones and the

and we sit with these headphones and the

and we sit with these headphones and the physician talks to us and asks us

physician talks to us and asks us

physician talks to us and asks us questions and we provide clarifications

questions and we provide clarifications

questions and we provide clarifications it is nerve-racking it is so scary but

it is nerve-racking it is so scary but

it is nerve-racking it is so scary but it is also immensely thrilling and

it is also immensely thrilling and

it is also immensely thrilling and fulfilling to be sitting there watching

fulfilling to be sitting there watching

fulfilling to be sitting there watching this because we are not these people

this because we are not these people

this because we are not these people from the engineering school that are

from the engineering school that are

from the engineering school that are just running supercool models of the

just running supercool models of the

just running supercool models of the heart know we these people who are also

heart know we these people who are also

heart know we these people who are also in the cleaning watching how your model

in the cleaning watching how your model

in the cleaning watching how your model might make a difference in the patient

might make a difference in the patient

might make a difference in the patient heart and that is an incredible it

heart and that is an incredible it

heart and that is an incredible it period so should our virtual heart

period so should our virtual heart

period so should our virtual heart approach become a routine clinical test

approach become a routine clinical test

approach become a routine clinical test or routine clinical use that would be

or routine clinical use that would be

or routine clinical use that would be absolutely amazing merger of

absolutely amazing merger of

absolutely amazing merger of computational simulations with clinical

computational simulations with clinical

computational simulations with clinical medicine something that we have set out

medicine something that we have set out

medicine something that we have set out to achieve this route for me as a

to achieve this route for me as a

to achieve this route for me as a personal experience have been amazing I

personal experience have been amazing I

personal experience have been amazing I always knew I was gonna be a scientist

always knew I was gonna be a scientist

always knew I was gonna be a scientist so I grew up in a science family I was

so I grew up in a science family I was

so I grew up in a science family I was raised that way

raised that way

raised that way my academic parents put me on an

my academic parents put me on an

my academic parents put me on an elevator to a science career and there I

elevator to a science career and there I

elevator to a science career and there I was I became a scientist but that

was I became a scientist but that

was I became a scientist but that elevator took me to a truly unexpected

elevator took me to a truly unexpected

elevator took me to a truly unexpected place I would have never imagined I

place I would have never imagined I

place I would have never imagined I would get to a floor where I will be

would get to a floor where I will be

would get to a floor where I will be working directly with physicians making

working directly with physicians making

working directly with physicians making the decisions how to deliver the best

the decisions how to deliver the best

the decisions how to deliver the best care for the patient I would never have

care for the patient I would never have

care for the patient I would never have imagined that it is truly incredible to

imagined that it is truly incredible to

imagined that it is truly incredible to be able to step out of the elevator and

be able to step out of the elevator and

be able to step out of the elevator and to find the place where complex theory

to find the place where complex theory

to find the place where complex theory computer simulations in clinical

computer simulations in clinical

computer simulations in clinical practice merge together like me you may

practice merge together like me you may

practice merge together like me you may not know where your elevators are going

not know where your elevators are going

not know where your elevators are going to take you to but take a chance press a

to take you to but take a chance press a

to take you to but take a chance press a button get out of the elevator and find

button get out of the elevator and find

button get out of the elevator and find out

out

out [Applause]

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