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thank you for listening to my talk today

thank you for listening to my talk today because I know that you’d all rather be

because I know that you’d all rather be

because I know that you’d all rather be having sex the average healthy person

having sex the average healthy person

having sex the average healthy person thinks about sex every day did you know

thinks about sex every day did you know

thinks about sex every day did you know that one reason that men and women

that one reason that men and women

that one reason that men and women involved and exist is to have sex and

involved and exist is to have sex and

involved and exist is to have sex and we’re not the only ones thinking about

we’re not the only ones thinking about

we’re not the only ones thinking about it but while you’re lying in bed next to

it but while you’re lying in bed next to

it but while you’re lying in bed next to your partner sweaty and exhausted

your partner sweaty and exhausted

your partner sweaty and exhausted wrapped in red satin sheets listening to

wrapped in red satin sheets listening to

wrapped in red satin sheets listening to Kenny G have you ever pondered why

fundamentally sex is how mums and dads

fundamentally sex is how mums and dads contribute their genes to their

contribute their genes to their

contribute their genes to their offspring so for most of the 19,000

offspring so for most of the 19,000

offspring so for most of the 19,000 genes embedded in our chromosomes we

genes embedded in our chromosomes we

genes embedded in our chromosomes we have two copies one that we inherit from

have two copies one that we inherit from

have two copies one that we inherit from our mom and one that we inherit from our

our mom and one that we inherit from our

our mom and one that we inherit from our dad this is the recipe for life but why

dad this is the recipe for life but why

dad this is the recipe for life but why does the recipe call for two helpings of

does the recipe call for two helpings of

does the recipe call for two helpings of most genes one reason is that it’s

most genes one reason is that it’s

most genes one reason is that it’s always good to have a backup if one gene

always good to have a backup if one gene

always good to have a backup if one gene copy has a mutation the other healthy

copy has a mutation the other healthy

copy has a mutation the other healthy copy can compensate and we all have some

copy can compensate and we all have some

copy can compensate and we all have some intuition for this because it’s common

intuition for this because it’s common

intuition for this because it’s common knowledge that you shouldn’t marry and

knowledge that you shouldn’t marry and

knowledge that you shouldn’t marry and have children with your sister or

have children with your sister or

have children with your sister or brother no matter how wonderful they may

brother no matter how wonderful they may

brother no matter how wonderful they may be people who are closely related to

be people who are closely related to

be people who are closely related to share many of the same mutations in

share many of the same mutations in

share many of the same mutations in their genes and so if they have kids

their genes and so if they have kids

their genes and so if they have kids together the kids have a higher risk for

together the kids have a higher risk for

together the kids have a higher risk for having the same mutation in both copies

having the same mutation in both copies

having the same mutation in both copies no healthy

no healthy

no healthy copy and so they have a higher risk for

copy and so they have a higher risk for

copy and so they have a higher risk for developing a genetic disorder so one

developing a genetic disorder so one

developing a genetic disorder so one reason that we have sex is to mix the

reason that we have sex is to mix the

reason that we have sex is to mix the genes from different and ideally

genes from different and ideally

genes from different and ideally unrelated individuals but that’s not the

unrelated individuals but that’s not the

unrelated individuals but that’s not the whole story

whole story

whole story in the 1980s scientists learned how to

in the 1980s scientists learned how to

in the 1980s scientists learned how to take all the fun out of making babies at

take all the fun out of making babies at

take all the fun out of making babies at least for mice when the sperm meets the

least for mice when the sperm meets the

least for mice when the sperm meets the egg it forms a zygote that contains the

egg it forms a zygote that contains the

egg it forms a zygote that contains the set of genes you get from mom and the

set of genes you get from mom and the

set of genes you get from mom and the set of genes you get from dad and the

set of genes you get from dad and the

set of genes you get from dad and the scientists were working in the lab and

scientists were working in the lab and

scientists were working in the lab and they developed these tiny needles and

they developed these tiny needles and

they developed these tiny needles and they went into the zygote and they

they went into the zygote and they

they went into the zygote and they sucked out the genes that came from the

sucked out the genes that came from the

sucked out the genes that came from the dad and they injected in a second copy

dad and they injected in a second copy

dad and they injected in a second copy of genes from mum so the embryos

of genes from mum so the embryos

of genes from mum so the embryos effectively had two mothers no father

effectively had two mothers no father

effectively had two mothers no father involved and they also engineered the

involved and they also engineered the

involved and they also engineered the opposite situation where they had

opposite situation where they had

opposite situation where they had embryos that had two sets of genes from

embryos that had two sets of genes from

embryos that had two sets of genes from dad and no mother involved what do you

dad and no mother involved what do you

dad and no mother involved what do you think happened

they died even though they had the

they died even though they had the normal set of gene copies only embryos

normal set of gene copies only embryos

normal set of gene copies only embryos that were engineered with a set of gene

that were engineered with a set of gene

that were engineered with a set of gene copies from mom and a set of gene copies

copies from mom and a set of gene copies

copies from mom and a set of gene copies from dad generated mice that survived

from dad generated mice that survived

from dad generated mice that survived and the experiment revealed that the

and the experiment revealed that the

and the experiment revealed that the genes we get from mom and dad are

genes we get from mom and dad are

genes we get from mom and dad are somehow different they’re not just

somehow different they’re not just

somehow different they’re not just backup copies for each other the

backup copies for each other the

backup copies for each other the difference turned out to involve a

difference turned out to involve a

difference turned out to involve a special kind of gene in our genome

special kind of gene in our genome

special kind of gene in our genome called imprinted genes now imprinted

called imprinted genes now imprinted

called imprinted genes now imprinted genes are distinguished by the fact that

genes are distinguished by the fact that

genes are distinguished by the fact that moms and dads stick chemical marks to

moms and dads stick chemical marks to

moms and dads stick chemical marks to them in the egg and the sperm and those

them in the egg and the sperm and those

them in the egg and the sperm and those chemical marks are inherited by the kids

chemical marks are inherited by the kids

chemical marks are inherited by the kids and they silence the genes in the kid

and they silence the genes in the kid

and they silence the genes in the kid but mums and dads put those marks on

but mums and dads put those marks on

but mums and dads put those marks on different genes and so as a consequence

different genes and so as a consequence

different genes and so as a consequence some genes silenced the copy from dad

some genes silenced the copy from dad

some genes silenced the copy from dad and Express the copy from mom and the

and Express the copy from mom and the

and Express the copy from mom and the kids and other genes silenced the copy

kids and other genes silenced the copy

kids and other genes silenced the copy from mom but expressed the copy from dad

from mom but expressed the copy from dad

from mom but expressed the copy from dad you may be deeply disturbed by the idea

you may be deeply disturbed by the idea

you may be deeply disturbed by the idea that your parents sent you secret

that your parents sent you secret

that your parents sent you secret messages that are stuck to your genes

messages that are stuck to your genes

messages that are stuck to your genes but I’m just getting started

the scientists again engineered cells

the scientists again engineered cells with genes from two moms and cells with

with genes from two moms and cells with

with genes from two moms and cells with genes from two dads and they mix them

genes from two dads and they mix them

genes from two dads and they mix them together with normal cells so that the

together with normal cells so that the

together with normal cells so that the embryos would live longer and what they

embryos would live longer and what they

embryos would live longer and what they discovered was amazing the embryos with

discovered was amazing the embryos with

discovered was amazing the embryos with cells with two sets of genes from mom

cells with two sets of genes from mom

cells with two sets of genes from mom developed small bodies but very large

developed small bodies but very large

developed small bodies but very large brains

and the embryos that were engineered

and the embryos that were engineered with cells that end that had a set of

with cells that end that had a set of

with cells that end that had a set of genes from only dads had the exact

genes from only dads had the exact

genes from only dads had the exact opposite phenotype they had large bodies

opposite phenotype they had large bodies

opposite phenotype they had large bodies and relatively small brains so you may

and relatively small brains so you may

and relatively small brains so you may not be surprised by this but what it

not be surprised by this but what it

not be surprised by this but what it revealed is that the imprinted genes we

revealed is that the imprinted genes we

revealed is that the imprinted genes we get from mom and dad have very different

get from mom and dad have very different

get from mom and dad have very different effects on offspring brain and body

effects on offspring brain and body

effects on offspring brain and body development so mom and dad moms and dads

development so mom and dad moms and dads

development so mom and dad moms and dads send us different messages through these

send us different messages through these

send us different messages through these imprinted genes but while imported genes

imprinted genes but while imported genes

imprinted genes but while imported genes are fascinating they’re also rare only

are fascinating they’re also rare only

are fascinating they’re also rare only about 1% of the 19,000 genes in our

about 1% of the 19,000 genes in our

about 1% of the 19,000 genes in our genome are imprinted and the researchers

genome are imprinted and the researchers

genome are imprinted and the researchers in my lab were left with the question

in my lab were left with the question

in my lab were left with the question what’s the story with the other 99% of

what’s the story with the other 99% of

what’s the story with the other 99% of our genes do they have two copies just

our genes do they have two copies just

our genes do they have two copies just to have a backup is that the whole story

to have a backup is that the whole story

to have a backup is that the whole story is it time to roll over turn out the

is it time to roll over turn out the

is it time to roll over turn out the light and go to sleep not yet and this

light and go to sleep not yet and this

light and go to sleep not yet and this part of the talk is complicated but you

part of the talk is complicated but you

part of the talk is complicated but you know it’s not the kamasutra

when the genes in our DNA are expressed

when the genes in our DNA are expressed they make a molecule called RNA RNA

they make a molecule called RNA RNA

they make a molecule called RNA RNA makes protein and proteins build our

makes protein and proteins build our

makes protein and proteins build our cells we can measure RNA sometimes when

cells we can measure RNA sometimes when

cells we can measure RNA sometimes when our genes are activated they make a lot

our genes are activated they make a lot

our genes are activated they make a lot of RNA and sometimes they make just a

of RNA and sometimes they make just a

of RNA and sometimes they make just a little now imagine that we clone a whole

little now imagine that we clone a whole

little now imagine that we clone a whole bunch of nerds

and we dissect out a piece of brain

and we dissect out a piece of brain tissue from each nerd and measure the

tissue from each nerd and measure the

tissue from each nerd and measure the activity of the genes in that brain

activity of the genes in that brain

activity of the genes in that brain tissue for given gene and some

tissue for given gene and some

tissue for given gene and some individuals each activity level will be

individuals each activity level will be

individuals each activity level will be high in others it will be low there will

high in others it will be low there will

high in others it will be low there will be just this natural variation across

be just this natural variation across

be just this natural variation across different individuals because of natural

different individuals because of natural

different individuals because of natural variation in their physiology and

variation in their physiology and

variation in their physiology and variation and how we dissected out that

variation and how we dissected out that

variation and how we dissected out that piece of tissue but now we drill down to

piece of tissue but now we drill down to

piece of tissue but now we drill down to the level of the mum and dad’s gene

the level of the mum and dad’s gene

the level of the mum and dad’s gene copies and we expect that the two copies

copies and we expect that the two copies

copies and we expect that the two copies will go up and down together in their

will go up and down together in their

will go up and down together in their activity because they’re just backup

activity because they’re just backup

activity because they’re just backup copies of one another expressed and

copies of one another expressed and

copies of one another expressed and regulated in the exact same way but what

regulated in the exact same way but what

regulated in the exact same way but what if we discover genes where that’s not

if we discover genes where that’s not

if we discover genes where that’s not the case and they express the two copies

the case and they express the two copies

the case and they express the two copies differently well that would exceed are

differently well that would exceed are

differently well that would exceed are not just backup copies of each other

not just backup copies of each other

not just backup copies of each other that maybe they’re doing different

that maybe they’re doing different

that maybe they’re doing different things so we did this experiment for

things so we did this experiment for

things so we did this experiment for each of the 19,000 genes in the genome

each of the 19,000 genes in the genome

each of the 19,000 genes in the genome in mice and we found genes that express

in mice and we found genes that express

in mice and we found genes that express mum and dad’s copy the same way they

mum and dad’s copy the same way they

mum and dad’s copy the same way they were highly correlated like this gene as

were highly correlated like this gene as

were highly correlated like this gene as though they’re acting as backup copies

though they’re acting as backup copies

though they’re acting as backup copies for each other but we also discovered

for each other but we also discovered

for each other but we also discovered hundreds of genes where that was not the

hundreds of genes where that was not the

hundreds of genes where that was not the case like this gene a door to B when

case like this gene a door to B when

case like this gene a door to B when mom’s copy increases its activity dad’s

mom’s copy increases its activity dad’s

mom’s copy increases its activity dad’s copy decreases its activity they’re

copy decreases its activity they’re

copy decreases its activity they’re negatively correlated acting

negatively correlated acting

negatively correlated acting antagonistically to each other clearly

antagonistically to each other clearly

antagonistically to each other clearly doing different things and the story got

doing different things and the story got

doing different things and the story got even more interesting when we started to

even more interesting when we started to

even more interesting when we started to measure these things at different ages

measure these things at different ages

measure these things at different ages in the adult brain ten percent of genes

in the adult brain ten percent of genes

in the adult brain ten percent of genes expressed mom and dad’s gene copies

expressed mom and dad’s gene copies

expressed mom and dad’s gene copies differently but in the developing

differently but in the developing

differently but in the developing newborn brain over eighty five percent

newborn brain over eighty five percent

newborn brain over eighty five percent of genes expressed the two copies

of genes expressed the two copies

of genes expressed the two copies differently

differently

differently it was as though each gene copy had its

it was as though each gene copy had its

it was as though each gene copy had its own unique role to play in building the

own unique role to play in building the

own unique role to play in building the developing brain holy crap

developing brain holy crap

developing brain holy crap there was no time left for sex we had to

there was no time left for sex we had to

there was no time left for sex we had to like get into the lab and do some

like get into the lab and do some

like get into the lab and do some serious experiments because this could

serious experiments because this could

serious experiments because this could really change how we think about how our

really change how we think about how our

really change how we think about how our genes make us who we are over the past

genes make us who we are over the past

genes make us who we are over the past several decades we have developed new

several decades we have developed new

several decades we have developed new technologies that can routinely sequence

technologies that can routinely sequence

technologies that can routinely sequence our genomes and analyze our genes and

our genomes and analyze our genes and

our genomes and analyze our genes and we’ve learned a whole bunch of

we’ve learned a whole bunch of

we’ve learned a whole bunch of surprising things we’ve learned that all

surprising things we’ve learned that all

surprising things we’ve learned that all of us have bonafide disease-causing

of us have bonafide disease-causing

of us have bonafide disease-causing mutations in our genome about 400

mutations in our genome about 400

mutations in our genome about 400 damaging mutations on average to lethal

damaging mutations on average to lethal

damaging mutations on average to lethal mutations but I feel fine and you guys

mutations but I feel fine and you guys

mutations but I feel fine and you guys all look great

all look great

all look great so for reasons that we don’t fully

so for reasons that we don’t fully

so for reasons that we don’t fully understand some of us get sick and some

understand some of us get sick and some

understand some of us get sick and some of us don’t the other thing that we’ve

of us don’t the other thing that we’ve

of us don’t the other thing that we’ve learned is that the mutations in our

learned is that the mutations in our

learned is that the mutations in our genes that influence our risk for

genes that influence our risk for

genes that influence our risk for disease are typically present in just

disease are typically present in just

disease are typically present in just one gene copy not both

one gene copy not both

one gene copy not both for example paternal age has emerged as

for example paternal age has emerged as

for example paternal age has emerged as an important risk factor for a lot of

an important risk factor for a lot of

an important risk factor for a lot of different disorders like autism and one

different disorders like autism and one

different disorders like autism and one reason is that fathers are constantly

reason is that fathers are constantly

reason is that fathers are constantly generating new sperm and they accumulate

generating new sperm and they accumulate

generating new sperm and they accumulate more and more mutations in the genes in

more and more mutations in the genes in

more and more mutations in the genes in the sperm as they get older and older

the sperm as they get older and older

the sperm as they get older and older about two new mutations per year and

about two new mutations per year and

about two new mutations per year and those mutations are inherited by the

those mutations are inherited by the

those mutations are inherited by the kids in their dads gene copies the mom’s

kids in their dads gene copies the mom’s

kids in their dads gene copies the mom’s copies should act as a backup but we’ve

copies should act as a backup but we’ve

copies should act as a backup but we’ve just learned that in many cases the mom

just learned that in many cases the mom

just learned that in many cases the mom and dad copies are expressed differently

and dad copies are expressed differently

and dad copies are expressed differently so how does this actually play out we

so how does this actually play out we

so how does this actually play out we wanted to know and so we engineered mice

wanted to know and so we engineered mice

wanted to know and so we engineered mice with a mutated gene copy and a healthy

with a mutated gene copy and a healthy

with a mutated gene copy and a healthy gene copy and we looked at how they’re

gene copy and we looked at how they’re

gene copy and we looked at how they’re expressed in the brain cells of the lab

expressed in the brain cells of the lab

expressed in the brain cells of the lab ones we discovered cells that Express

ones we discovered cells that Express

ones we discovered cells that Express both the healthy copy and the mutated

both the healthy copy and the mutated

both the healthy copy and the mutated copy

copy

copy kind of like we expected so there’s a

kind of like we expected so there’s a

kind of like we expected so there’s a backup healthy copy there but we also

backup healthy copy there but we also

backup healthy copy there but we also discovered cells that were only

discovered cells that were only

discovered cells that were only expressing the healthy copy which was

expressing the healthy copy which was

expressing the healthy copy which was very surprising but more alarmingly we

very surprising but more alarmingly we

very surprising but more alarmingly we found cells that only expressed the

found cells that only expressed the

found cells that only expressed the mutated gene copy the cells that

mutated gene copy the cells that

mutated gene copy the cells that preferentially expressed mutated gene

preferentially expressed mutated gene

preferentially expressed mutated gene copies contribute to our risk for

copies contribute to our risk for

copies contribute to our risk for disease if they do this paints a very

disease if they do this paints a very

disease if they do this paints a very different picture of disease but we

different picture of disease but we

different picture of disease but we don’t know right now it’s just an idea

don’t know right now it’s just an idea

don’t know right now it’s just an idea and there are a whole bunch of questions

and there are a whole bunch of questions

and there are a whole bunch of questions that remain most of what I’ve talked

that remain most of what I’ve talked

that remain most of what I’ve talked about we did in lab mice but you may be

about we did in lab mice but you may be

about we did in lab mice but you may be wondering what’s happening in you you

wondering what’s happening in you you

wondering what’s happening in you you may be wondering about how your parents

may be wondering about how your parents

may be wondering about how your parents genes are expressed in you and if you

genes are expressed in you and if you

genes are expressed in you and if you are a parent then maybe you’re thinking

are a parent then maybe you’re thinking

are a parent then maybe you’re thinking about how your genes are expressed in

about how your genes are expressed in

about how your genes are expressed in your kids maybe they have really

your kids maybe they have really

your kids maybe they have really annoying habits like their father and

annoying habits like their father and

annoying habits like their father and now you’re thinking they must express a

now you’re thinking they must express a

now you’re thinking they must express a lot of his gene copies we also wanted to

lot of his gene copies we also wanted to

lot of his gene copies we also wanted to know the answer to this and so we

know the answer to this and so we

know the answer to this and so we developed a staining method that we

developed a staining method that we

developed a staining method that we could use in postmortem human brain

could use in postmortem human brain

could use in postmortem human brain tissue to look at the activity of the

tissue to look at the activity of the

tissue to look at the activity of the two copies we get from mom and dad the

two copies we get from mom and dad the

two copies we get from mom and dad the staining method reveals the individual

staining method reveals the individual

staining method reveals the individual brain cells in blue and it reveals the

brain cells in blue and it reveals the

brain cells in blue and it reveals the activity of the two copies of a gene in

activity of the two copies of a gene in

activity of the two copies of a gene in red we can’t tell which copy is mutated

red we can’t tell which copy is mutated

red we can’t tell which copy is mutated or healthy yet and we can’t top kill we

or healthy yet and we can’t top kill we

or healthy yet and we can’t top kill we can’t tell which one comes from mom and

can’t tell which one comes from mom and

can’t tell which one comes from mom and which one comes from dad but we can see

which one comes from dad but we can see

which one comes from dad but we can see for each cell whether it’s expressing

for each cell whether it’s expressing

for each cell whether it’s expressing both copies equally or differently we

both copies equally or differently we

both copies equally or differently we found genes like this one that expresses

found genes like this one that expresses

found genes like this one that expresses both the mom and the dads copy equally

both the mom and the dads copy equally

both the mom and the dads copy equally in human brain cells so there’s a back

in human brain cells so there’s a back

in human brain cells so there’s a back up copy there but we also discovered

up copy there but we also discovered

up copy there but we also discovered genes like these ones

genes like these ones

genes like these ones Huntington which is linked to

Huntington which is linked to

Huntington which is linked to Huntington’s disease and a gene called

Huntington’s disease and a gene called

Huntington’s disease and a gene called death one that’s linked to autism they

death one that’s linked to autism they

death one that’s linked to autism they are clearly expressing there are two

are clearly expressing there are two

are clearly expressing there are two copies differently and we found brain

copies differently and we found brain

copies differently and we found brain cells that have only one active gene

cells that have only one active gene

cells that have only one active gene copy so like mice we also frequently

copy so like mice we also frequently

copy so like mice we also frequently express our mom and dad’s gene copies

express our mom and dad’s gene copies

express our mom and dad’s gene copies differently and this means we may not

differently and this means we may not

differently and this means we may not fully understand why we have sex and

fully understand why we have sex and

fully understand why we have sex and contribute to copies of most genes to

contribute to copies of most genes to

contribute to copies of most genes to our kids research over the past several

our kids research over the past several

our kids research over the past several decades has taught us an incredible

decades has taught us an incredible

decades has taught us an incredible amount about how our genes make us who

amount about how our genes make us who

amount about how our genes make us who we are and by gaining a deeper a deeper

we are and by gaining a deeper a deeper

we are and by gaining a deeper a deeper understanding of our genes or gaining a

understanding of our genes or gaining a

understanding of our genes or gaining a deeper understanding of disease we’re

deeper understanding of disease we’re

deeper understanding of disease we’re learning how to make better therapies

learning how to make better therapies

learning how to make better therapies better medicines but there are lots of

better medicines but there are lots of

better medicines but there are lots of mysteries that remain we think that

mysteries that remain we think that

mysteries that remain we think that we’ve discovered something fundamentally

we’ve discovered something fundamentally

we’ve discovered something fundamentally new by studying the activity of our

new by studying the activity of our

new by studying the activity of our genes at the level of the two copies we

genes at the level of the two copies we

genes at the level of the two copies we get from mom and dad and we were

get from mom and dad and we were

get from mom and dad and we were surprised to find that there are genes

surprised to find that there are genes

surprised to find that there are genes that we know caused disease and people

that we know caused disease and people

that we know caused disease and people that express their two copies

that express their two copies

that express their two copies differently we found cells that

differently we found cells that

differently we found cells that frequently Express mom and dad’s copies

frequently Express mom and dad’s copies

frequently Express mom and dad’s copies differently mutated and healthy gene

differently mutated and healthy gene

differently mutated and healthy gene copies differently why do these effects

copies differently why do these effects

copies differently why do these effects play some special role in shaping the

play some special role in shaping the

play some special role in shaping the function of our brain do they shape our

function of our brain do they shape our

function of our brain do they shape our risks for disease we feel like explorers

risks for disease we feel like explorers

risks for disease we feel like explorers on the edge of a new frontier and we’re

on the edge of a new frontier and we’re

on the edge of a new frontier and we’re really excited to find out what we’re

really excited to find out what we’re

really excited to find out what we’re going to learn we may discover that your

going to learn we may discover that your

going to learn we may discover that your parents always have the last word

parents always have the last word

parents always have the last word thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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