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What depression taught me | Debs Carter | TEDxSouthampton


Wow thank you and so I’m lucky to be

Wow thank you and so I’m lucky to be here today I’m lucky to be able to tell

here today I’m lucky to be able to tell

here today I’m lucky to be able to tell you a story that I really hope will help

you a story that I really hope will help

you a story that I really hope will help others I’m lucky to be alive

depression is still something we’d much

depression is still something we’d much rather not talk about it’s surrounded by

rather not talk about it’s surrounded by

rather not talk about it’s surrounded by stigma and stereotypes and good old

stigma and stereotypes and good old

stigma and stereotypes and good old fashioned awkwardness when it comes to

fashioned awkwardness when it comes to

fashioned awkwardness when it comes to talking about our mental health but for

talking about our mental health but for

talking about our mental health but for me I’d say depression has transformed my

me I’d say depression has transformed my

me I’d say depression has transformed my life it’s made me who I am and I think

life it’s made me who I am and I think

life it’s made me who I am and I think I’ve discovered a way where depression

I’ve discovered a way where depression

I’ve discovered a way where depression can be used to change my life and the

can be used to change my life and the

can be used to change my life and the lives of others for the better so for me

lives of others for the better so for me

lives of others for the better so for me I’ve struggled with depression and

I’ve struggled with depression and

I’ve struggled with depression and despair for most of my life I spent much

despair for most of my life I spent much

despair for most of my life I spent much of my teenage years and twenties in

of my teenage years and twenties in

of my teenage years and twenties in psychiatric hospitals very few people

psychiatric hospitals very few people

psychiatric hospitals very few people knew I was in hospital I took myself off

knew I was in hospital I took myself off

knew I was in hospital I took myself off from the University and didn’t tell my

from the University and didn’t tell my

from the University and didn’t tell my friends even those who did know didn’t

friends even those who did know didn’t

friends even those who did know didn’t really know they didn’t know I spent two

really know they didn’t know I spent two

really know they didn’t know I spent two years of my life with a nurse by my side

years of my life with a nurse by my side

years of my life with a nurse by my side every second of the day to stop me from

every second of the day to stop me from

every second of the day to stop me from harming myself they didn’t really know

harming myself they didn’t really know

harming myself they didn’t really know how many times I tried to kill myself

how many times I tried to kill myself

how many times I tried to kill myself or how hard I tried I was too ashamed of

or how hard I tried I was too ashamed of

or how hard I tried I was too ashamed of telling my story I was too ashamed of

telling my story I was too ashamed of

telling my story I was too ashamed of people knowing what was really going on

people knowing what was really going on

people knowing what was really going on for me I wore a mask people would come

for me I wore a mask people would come

for me I wore a mask people would come and visit me in hospital and I’d keep

and visit me in hospital and I’d keep

and visit me in hospital and I’d keep the conversation focused on them and not

the conversation focused on them and not

the conversation focused on them and not me It was as if we were just meeting up

me It was as if we were just meeting up

me It was as if we were just meeting up for a coffee the Moscow war carried on

for a coffee the Moscow war carried on

for a coffee the Moscow war carried on when I was in hospital I had act and

when I was in hospital I had act and

when I was in hospital I had act and pretend like I was a nurse rather than a

pretend like I was a nurse rather than a

pretend like I was a nurse rather than a patient in the way I went round smiling

patient in the way I went round smiling

patient in the way I went round smiling and trying to care for everyone else

what was going on for me was a terrible

what was going on for me was a terrible sense of shame a sense that I wasn’t

sense of shame a sense that I wasn’t

sense of shame a sense that I wasn’t good enough that I was the worst person

good enough that I was the worst person

good enough that I was the worst person in the whole wide world I really

in the whole wide world I really

in the whole wide world I really believed

believed

believed was terrible and I deserve to die what

was terrible and I deserve to die what

was terrible and I deserve to die what change for me was this sense of shame so

change for me was this sense of shame so

change for me was this sense of shame so two things happened first a friend who

two things happened first a friend who

two things happened first a friend who had met in a community hospital I was

had met in a community hospital I was

had met in a community hospital I was there for a couple of years and then she

there for a couple of years and then she

there for a couple of years and then she told me some of the things she talked

told me some of the things she talked

told me some of the things she talked about with her therapist I couldn’t

about with her therapist I couldn’t

about with her therapist I couldn’t believe it I couldn’t believe she was

believe it I couldn’t believe she was

believe it I couldn’t believe she was honest about some of the things she

honest about some of the things she

honest about some of the things she thought I thought exactly the same

thought I thought exactly the same

thought I thought exactly the same things but I’ve never actually said them

things but I’ve never actually said them

things but I’ve never actually said them out loud so I’m really grateful to her

out loud so I’m really grateful to her

out loud so I’m really grateful to her for what she did for me because she

for what she did for me because she

for what she did for me because she opened a door and made me think just

opened a door and made me think just

opened a door and made me think just maybe it’s possible to talk and be

maybe it’s possible to talk and be

maybe it’s possible to talk and be honest the other thing that happened was

honest the other thing that happened was

honest the other thing that happened was an encounter with my GP I’ve got to know

an encounter with my GP I’ve got to know

an encounter with my GP I’ve got to know him pretty well over the years and I was

him pretty well over the years and I was

him pretty well over the years and I was getting in again back to rent a hospital

getting in again back to rent a hospital

getting in again back to rent a hospital and he said to me we can do this Deb’s

and he said to me we can do this Deb’s

and he said to me we can do this Deb’s we can get you into a hospital we can

we can get you into a hospital we can

we can get you into a hospital we can start the treatment the therapy we can

start the treatment the therapy we can

start the treatment the therapy we can do all of that or you can just decide

do all of that or you can just decide

do all of that or you can just decide you’re okay decide I’m okay how dare he

you’re okay decide I’m okay how dare he

you’re okay decide I’m okay how dare he say that to me how dare he say I can

say that to me how dare he say I can

say that to me how dare he say I can just decide I’m okay it really wasn’t

just decide I’m okay it really wasn’t

just decide I’m okay it really wasn’t like that surely he didn’t understand

like that surely he didn’t understand

like that surely he didn’t understand but it played on my mind I trusted him

but it played on my mind I trusted him

but it played on my mind I trusted him and I thought and thought about it and

and I thought and thought about it and

and I thought and thought about it and it stayed it stayed with me for a long

it stayed it stayed with me for a long

it stayed it stayed with me for a long time and one day I decided to decided

time and one day I decided to decided

time and one day I decided to decided that I was okay I was the same as

that I was okay I was the same as

that I was okay I was the same as everyone else I didn’t need to be

everyone else I didn’t need to be

everyone else I didn’t need to be ashamed of my story I didn’t need to be

ashamed of my story I didn’t need to be

ashamed of my story I didn’t need to be ashamed of who I was what I look like my

ashamed of who I was what I look like my

ashamed of who I was what I look like my personality my background the things I

personality my background the things I

personality my background the things I thought my mental health problems I was

thought my mental health problems I was

thought my mental health problems I was okay I had good and bad bits but

okay I had good and bad bits but

okay I had good and bad bits but basically I was the same as every other

basically I was the same as every other

basically I was the same as every other human being on the planet for me that

human being on the planet for me that

human being on the planet for me that was a massive revelation after a number

was a massive revelation after a number

was a massive revelation after a number of years of practicing telling my story

of years of practicing telling my story

of years of practicing telling my story I have learned there was a way to do it

I have learned there was a way to do it

I have learned there was a way to do it that invites interest in connection as

that invites interest in connection as

that invites interest in connection as opposed to awkward moments and

opposed to awkward moments and

opposed to awkward moments and embarrassment one example is that of my

embarrassment one example is that of my

embarrassment one example is that of my now

now

now husband I’ve been getting to know him on

husband I’ve been getting to know him on

husband I’ve been getting to know him on a surface kind of level when I knew it

a surface kind of level when I knew it

a surface kind of level when I knew it was time to tell him my story I was

was time to tell him my story I was

was time to tell him my story I was absolutely terrified I was so scared

absolutely terrified I was so scared

absolutely terrified I was so scared he’d reject me but one day I summoned up

he’d reject me but one day I summoned up

he’d reject me but one day I summoned up the courage I took a deep breath and I

the courage I took a deep breath and I

the courage I took a deep breath and I just blurted it out probably really

just blurted it out probably really

just blurted it out probably really quickly he was probably a bit

quickly he was probably a bit

quickly he was probably a bit overwhelmed by his response he was

overwhelmed by his response he was

overwhelmed by his response he was amazing his response was it’s not ideal

amazing his response was it’s not ideal

amazing his response was it’s not ideal but it doesn’t change anything I

but it doesn’t change anything I

but it doesn’t change anything I couldn’t believe it it’s not ideal it

couldn’t believe it it’s not ideal it

couldn’t believe it it’s not ideal it doesn’t change anything

doesn’t change anything

doesn’t change anything well my story was worth but he was so I

well my story was worth but he was so I

well my story was worth but he was so I we moved on we got married and we do

we moved on we got married and we do

we moved on we got married and we do life together now after practicing

life together now after practicing

life together now after practicing telling my story to other people I know

telling my story to other people I know

telling my story to other people I know that there’s a way to do it that makes

that there’s a way to do it that makes

that there’s a way to do it that makes people interested and realize that

people interested and realize that

people interested and realize that you’re unique and different but not

you’re unique and different but not

you’re unique and different but not different in a special kind of way in

different in a special kind of way in

different in a special kind of way in that you’re unique and able to have

that you’re unique and able to have

that you’re unique and able to have learn and developed through your

learn and developed through your

learn and developed through your experiences so I know that to get

experiences so I know that to get

experiences so I know that to get through what I have and must be

through what I have and must be

through what I have and must be resourceful so I wouldn’t have asked for

resourceful so I wouldn’t have asked for

resourceful so I wouldn’t have asked for help from other people I must have some

help from other people I must have some

help from other people I must have some inner strength in order to get through

inner strength in order to get through

inner strength in order to get through life both inside and outside of hospital

life both inside and outside of hospital

life both inside and outside of hospital and I must have a strong desire to live

and I must have a strong desire to live

and I must have a strong desire to live oh so be dead by now so what I do now is

oh so be dead by now so what I do now is

oh so be dead by now so what I do now is invite people to celebrate my story to

invite people to celebrate my story to

invite people to celebrate my story to celebrate how awesome I am not in an

celebrate how awesome I am not in an

celebrate how awesome I am not in an arrogant kind of way honestly but in a

arrogant kind of way honestly but in a

arrogant kind of way honestly but in a way that says I’m the same as every

way that says I’m the same as every

way that says I’m the same as every other human being on the planet we’re

other human being on the planet we’re

other human being on the planet we’re all awesome and we all have a story of

all awesome and we all have a story of

all awesome and we all have a story of overcoming or moving forward no matter

overcoming or moving forward no matter

overcoming or moving forward no matter how small or large in June 2015 I

how small or large in June 2015 I

how small or large in June 2015 I decided to take this idea further I sent

decided to take this idea further I sent

decided to take this idea further I sent a 20 page copy of my story to 150 people

a 20 page copy of my story to 150 people

a 20 page copy of my story to 150 people on you sent it through the post they

on you sent it through the post they

on you sent it through the post they were all people who I felt I had a

were all people who I felt I had a

were all people who I felt I had a connection with that I felt I connected

connection with that I felt I connected

connection with that I felt I connected with in some way either they were work

with in some way either they were work

with in some way either they were work colleagues friends family even some

colleagues friends family even some

colleagues friends family even some people I knew off the telly so I sent it

people I knew off the telly so I sent it

people I knew off the telly so I sent it out in the post

out in the post

out in the post on Friday night so scared so I waited

on Friday night so scared so I waited

on Friday night so scared so I waited and I was thinking I was telling myself

and I was thinking I was telling myself

and I was thinking I was telling myself this is just an experiment let’s see

this is just an experiment let’s see

this is just an experiment let’s see what happens and the result of the

what happens and the result of the

what happens and the result of the experiment was so positive most people

experiment was so positive most people

experiment was so positive most people he got a story got back to me and none

he got a story got back to me and none

he got a story got back to me and none of those responses were negative in fact

of those responses were negative in fact

of those responses were negative in fact many people went on to share their own

many people went on to share their own

many people went on to share their own story with me and many people said they

story with me and many people said they

story with me and many people said they were inspired by that bit of post they

were inspired by that bit of post they

were inspired by that bit of post they got that day since then I’ve gone on to

got that day since then I’ve gone on to

got that day since then I’ve gone on to develop touch network touch network is

develop touch network touch network is

develop touch network touch network is all about telling stories and touching

all about telling stories and touching

all about telling stories and touching lives so I invite people to come and

lives so I invite people to come and

lives so I invite people to come and share their stories whatever that might

share their stories whatever that might

share their stories whatever that might be can be on any subject we run events

be can be on any subject we run events

be can be on any subject we run events workshops publish books and do creative

workshops publish books and do creative

workshops publish books and do creative projects mostly this year we’ve done

projects mostly this year we’ve done

projects mostly this year we’ve done events so we invite people to come along

events so we invite people to come along

events so we invite people to come along to a cafe or bar or restaurant we have

to a cafe or bar or restaurant we have

to a cafe or bar or restaurant we have nibbles and coffee and sometimes fairy

nibbles and coffee and sometimes fairy

nibbles and coffee and sometimes fairy lights it’s all lovely and um people

lights it’s all lovely and um people

lights it’s all lovely and um people share their stories of overcoming so I

share their stories of overcoming so I

share their stories of overcoming so I coached the speakers beforehand I have

coached the speakers beforehand I have

coached the speakers beforehand I have four speakers lined up and they know

four speakers lined up and they know

four speakers lined up and they know what they’re going to say and they stand

what they’re going to say and they stand

what they’re going to say and they stand up and they tell their story of

up and they tell their story of

up and they tell their story of overcoming especially the bits that make

overcoming especially the bits that make

overcoming especially the bits that make them awesome so we work together to

them awesome so we work together to

them awesome so we work together to celebrate these stories and some of

celebrate these stories and some of

celebrate these stories and some of these stories have been about some

these stories have been about some

these stories have been about some really gritty subjects so we’ve had

really gritty subjects so we’ve had

really gritty subjects so we’ve had people talk about adoption ethnicity

people talk about adoption ethnicity

people talk about adoption ethnicity family background childhood struggles

family background childhood struggles

family background childhood struggles grief all sorts of things but the

grief all sorts of things but the

grief all sorts of things but the results have been that speakers feel

results have been that speakers feel

results have been that speakers feel empowered guests are inspired and

empowered guests are inspired and

empowered guests are inspired and stereotypes and stigma begin to be

stereotypes and stigma begin to be

stereotypes and stigma begin to be broken down so I’ve learned how

broken down so I’ve learned how

broken down so I’ve learned how important it is to share your story and

important it is to share your story and

important it is to share your story and I help people to share their stories in

I help people to share their stories in

I help people to share their stories in the most positive way possible so we

the most positive way possible so we

the most positive way possible so we work together to celebrate the

work together to celebrate the

work together to celebrate the awesomeness of how our stories make us

awesomeness of how our stories make us

awesomeness of how our stories make us who we are

who we are

who we are thank you so much for listening

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