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The Meaning of Love | Lionell Tholmer | TEDxDonovanCorrectional


the eyes cannot see what lies beneath

the eyes cannot see what lies beneath the surface of either you or me what do

the surface of either you or me what do

the surface of either you or me what do you see when I come up here what does

you see when I come up here what does

you see when I come up here what does your eyes tell you did he tell you that

your eyes tell you did he tell you that

your eyes tell you did he tell you that I’m a cowboy that rode Brahma bulls and

I’m a cowboy that rode Brahma bulls and

I’m a cowboy that rode Brahma bulls and rodeos or that on an April morning in

rodeos or that on an April morning in

rodeos or that on an April morning in 1958 I became associated with animals

1958 I became associated with animals

1958 I became associated with animals when my mother said in a

when my mother said in a

when my mother said in a high-performance forward heading to a

high-performance forward heading to a

high-performance forward heading to a ranch just outside of Napa California I

ranch just outside of Napa California I

ranch just outside of Napa California I imagined that my mother must have been

imagined that my mother must have been

imagined that my mother must have been experiencing tormented emotions knowing

experiencing tormented emotions knowing

experiencing tormented emotions knowing that she was taking her newborn baby me

that she was taking her newborn baby me

that she was taking her newborn baby me to a storm where violence and rage

to a storm where violence and rage

to a storm where violence and rage flourished in my father my mother likely

flourished in my father my mother likely

flourished in my father my mother likely thought that taking me to that ranch was

thought that taking me to that ranch was

thought that taking me to that ranch was like taking a new infant and throwing it

like taking a new infant and throwing it

like taking a new infant and throwing it in a den of lions and watching them rip

in a den of lions and watching them rip

in a den of lions and watching them rip it apart when I became old enough to

it apart when I became old enough to

it apart when I became old enough to feel emotions and feelings I realized

feel emotions and feelings I realized

feel emotions and feelings I realized that I had been tortured and abused by

that I had been tortured and abused by

that I had been tortured and abused by my father I was afraid of mistakes

my father I was afraid of mistakes

my father I was afraid of mistakes mistakes had consequences bull whiffing

mistakes had consequences bull whiffing

mistakes had consequences bull whiffing I was often the victim of mistakes bull

I was often the victim of mistakes bull

I was often the victim of mistakes bull wimping the only comfort I had on that

wimping the only comfort I had on that

wimping the only comfort I had on that ranch was with the animals I had a pony

ranch was with the animals I had a pony

ranch was with the animals I had a pony strawberry with gold mange I would go

strawberry with gold mange I would go

strawberry with gold mange I would go out to the pasture many of you have pets

out to the pasture many of you have pets

out to the pasture many of you have pets so you know when you go home they come

so you know when you go home they come

so you know when you go home they come to you they’re seeking affection and

to you they’re seeking affection and

to you they’re seeking affection and they want you to give them affection my

they want you to give them affection my

they want you to give them affection my pony would see me and he would come to

pony would see me and he would come to

pony would see me and he would come to me always sense that this Pony to tell

me always sense that this Pony to tell

me always sense that this Pony to tell that I was standing in a storm a stress

that I was standing in a storm a stress

that I was standing in a storm a stress dress

dress

dress and every time he counted me he would

and every time he counted me he would

and every time he counted me he would place his head next to my face it gave

place his head next to my face it gave

place his head next to my face it gave me something it impacted my life this

me something it impacted my life this

me something it impacted my life this was 50 some years ago I come home from

was 50 some years ago I come home from

was 50 some years ago I come home from school one day and my father tells me I

school one day and my father tells me I

school one day and my father tells me I sold your pony imagine sitting in your

sold your pony imagine sitting in your

sold your pony imagine sitting in your living room in front of a big picture

living room in front of a big picture

living room in front of a big picture window then somebody comes and they take

window then somebody comes and they take

window then somebody comes and they take a brick and throws it through there

a brick and throws it through there

a brick and throws it through there shatters shards of glass go everywhere

shatters shards of glass go everywhere

shatters shards of glass go everywhere when her father told me that he sold

when her father told me that he sold

when her father told me that he sold this pony that’s what he did to my heart

this pony that’s what he did to my heart

this pony that’s what he did to my heart my brain animals were a big part of my

my brain animals were a big part of my

my brain animals were a big part of my life one day I was coming home from

life one day I was coming home from

life one day I was coming home from school

school

school and I looked under a bush and I’ve seen

and I looked under a bush and I’ve seen

and I looked under a bush and I’ve seen a little big eyed brown Jackrabbit I

a little big eyed brown Jackrabbit I

a little big eyed brown Jackrabbit I don’t know if you’ve know there much

don’t know if you’ve know there much

don’t know if you’ve know there much about rabbits but Jack rabbits are

about rabbits but Jack rabbits are

about rabbits but Jack rabbits are reported to run 37 miles an hour it

reported to run 37 miles an hour it

reported to run 37 miles an hour it seems as though this little rabbit it

seems as though this little rabbit it

seems as though this little rabbit it was expecting me when I looked at it it

was expecting me when I looked at it it

was expecting me when I looked at it it looked at me and something told me pick

looked at me and something told me pick

looked at me and something told me pick it up most equal pick up rabbits by

it up most equal pick up rabbits by

it up most equal pick up rabbits by their ears but I reached down and I

their ears but I reached down and I

their ears but I reached down and I picked it up from its underbelly and I

picked it up from its underbelly and I

picked it up from its underbelly and I brought it to my to my body held it

brought it to my to my body held it

brought it to my to my body held it gently and looked at it to see whether

gently and looked at it to see whether

gently and looked at it to see whether it was injured or not wasn’t hurt at all

it was injured or not wasn’t hurt at all

it was injured or not wasn’t hurt at all its I carried it home I put it in a cage

its I carried it home I put it in a cage

its I carried it home I put it in a cage next to the domestic rabbits they were

next to the domestic rabbits they were

next to the domestic rabbits they were white with pink eyes later that night a

white with pink eyes later that night a

white with pink eyes later that night a storm began brewing I knew that this

storm began brewing I knew that this

storm began brewing I knew that this rabbit could not make it unless the cage

rabbit could not make it unless the cage

rabbit could not make it unless the cage was covered so I went to my dad with

was covered so I went to my dad with

was covered so I went to my dad with pleading eyes said can I go out there

pleading eyes said can I go out there

pleading eyes said can I go out there and cover their cage he looked at me

and cover their cage he looked at me

and cover their cage he looked at me with indifference in his eyes and said

with indifference in his eyes and said

with indifference in his eyes and said no the next morning when the Sun rose I

no the next morning when the Sun rose I

no the next morning when the Sun rose I went out and as I approached the cage I

went out and as I approached the cage I

went out and as I approached the cage I see the little rabbit turned on his side

see the little rabbit turned on his side

see the little rabbit turned on his side immediately I knew that it was dead I

immediately I knew that it was dead I

immediately I knew that it was dead I was sad I was hurt and I was angry

was sad I was hurt and I was angry

was sad I was hurt and I was angry I was sad and hurt because the little

I was sad and hurt because the little

I was sad and hurt because the little rabbit by allowing me to pick it up told

rabbit by allowing me to pick it up told

rabbit by allowing me to pick it up told me and whatever my father was beating

me and whatever my father was beating

me and whatever my father was beating with that bullwhip wasn’t in me because

with that bullwhip wasn’t in me because

with that bullwhip wasn’t in me because he trusted me he’d let me pick it up

he trusted me he’d let me pick it up

he trusted me he’d let me pick it up take it home angry because it trusted me

take it home angry because it trusted me

take it home angry because it trusted me and Ellen’s now dead

you know it’s 2006 I’m at Pleasant

you know it’s 2006 I’m at Pleasant Valley State Prison I don’t know if you

Valley State Prison I don’t know if you

Valley State Prison I don’t know if you heard but a lot of people were dying of

heard but a lot of people were dying of

heard but a lot of people were dying of valley fever I couldn’t breathe and I

valley fever I couldn’t breathe and I

valley fever I couldn’t breathe and I was high so I told her officer I can’t

was high so I told her officer I can’t

was high so I told her officer I can’t breathe and I’m hot and he looked at me

breathe and I’m hot and he looked at me

breathe and I’m hot and he looked at me and said Lionel you’re talking so you’re

and said Lionel you’re talking so you’re

and said Lionel you’re talking so you’re breathing you’re standing so you’re okay

breathing you’re standing so you’re okay

breathing you’re standing so you’re okay this is prison and he walked off a

this is prison and he walked off a

this is prison and he walked off a little while later another officer came

little while later another officer came

little while later another officer came to take me to uh the hearing when she

to take me to uh the hearing when she

to take me to uh the hearing when she grabbed my arm she said man I can’t take

grabbed my arm she said man I can’t take

grabbed my arm she said man I can’t take you to that hearing I said why is that

you to that hearing I said why is that

you to that hearing I said why is that she says you’re on fire I have to rush

she says you’re on fire I have to rush

she says you’re on fire I have to rush you to the medical station now once

you to the medical station now once

you to the medical station now once inside this medical station it was a

inside this medical station it was a

inside this medical station it was a small room they hooked me to the vital

small room they hooked me to the vital

small room they hooked me to the vital machine somebody listened to my lungs

machine somebody listened to my lungs

machine somebody listened to my lungs and I’ve seen the nurse practitioner get

and I’ve seen the nurse practitioner get

and I’ve seen the nurse practitioner get on the phone I heard her tell someone I

on the phone I heard her tell someone I

on the phone I heard her tell someone I have a man here who has 106 temperature

have a man here who has 106 temperature

have a man here who has 106 temperature he’s in critical condition his vitals

he’s in critical condition his vitals

he’s in critical condition his vitals are off the chart and his lungs are full

are off the chart and his lungs are full

are off the chart and his lungs are full of bacteria we need an ambulance

so I was amber lamps to Kalinga regional

so I was amber lamps to Kalinga regional treatment center once inside the

treatment center once inside the

treatment center once inside the emergency room a doctor came in and I’ll

emergency room a doctor came in and I’ll

emergency room a doctor came in and I’ll never forget it was kind of strange

never forget it was kind of strange

never forget it was kind of strange because he walked in and he started

because he walked in and he started

because he walked in and he started walking with his head down he said I

walking with his head down he said I

walking with his head down he said I know it’s all bad man this time you

know it’s all bad man this time you

know it’s all bad man this time you can’t sign out against medical advice I

can’t sign out against medical advice I

can’t sign out against medical advice I have to admit you they’re going to try

have to admit you they’re going to try

have to admit you they’re going to try to save your life you’re in critical

to save your life you’re in critical

to save your life you’re in critical condition they’re going to be hooking

condition they’re going to be hooking

condition they’re going to be hooking you up to these machines and moving you

you up to these machines and moving you

you up to these machines and moving you to a room where they could put you in a

to a room where they could put you in a

to a room where they could put you in a nice bit and try to

nice bit and try to

nice bit and try to bring the temperature down try to keep

bring the temperature down try to keep

bring the temperature down try to keep your life it moved me to a room and he

your life it moved me to a room and he

your life it moved me to a room and he said somebody would come in there every

said somebody would come in there every

said somebody would come in there every 15 minutes and check you every 15

15 minutes and check you every 15

15 minutes and check you every 15 minutes for seven days somebody came in

minutes for seven days somebody came in

minutes for seven days somebody came in that room a nurse doctor someone and

that room a nurse doctor someone and

that room a nurse doctor someone and invariably every time they came in they

invariably every time they came in they

invariably every time they came in they turned that vital machine where I

turned that vital machine where I

turned that vital machine where I couldn’t see the whatever it said

couldn’t see the whatever it said

couldn’t see the whatever it said because they didn’t want to they didn’t

because they didn’t want to they didn’t

because they didn’t want to they didn’t want me to feel worse than I already did

want me to feel worse than I already did

want me to feel worse than I already did but I would search their eyes for a sign

but I would search their eyes for a sign

but I would search their eyes for a sign of what state my health was in and he’s

of what state my health was in and he’s

of what state my health was in and he’s time I’d searched their eyes they would

time I’d searched their eyes they would

time I’d searched their eyes they would always get tears in him some of the

always get tears in him some of the

always get tears in him some of the nurses were going shocks I knew I wasn’t

nurses were going shocks I knew I wasn’t

nurses were going shocks I knew I wasn’t doing good but every time I’ve seen them

doing good but every time I’ve seen them

doing good but every time I’ve seen them tear up my heart softened and my health

tear up my heart softened and my health

tear up my heart softened and my health strengthened this went on for seven days

strengthened this went on for seven days

strengthened this went on for seven days at some point in the seven-day period I

at some point in the seven-day period I

at some point in the seven-day period I realized that these people were not

realized that these people were not

realized that these people were not healing me with medicine wasn’t the IV’s

healing me with medicine wasn’t the IV’s

healing me with medicine wasn’t the IV’s it wasn’t any of them things but it was

it wasn’t any of them things but it was

it wasn’t any of them things but it was what came from their hearts that has me

what came from their hearts that has me

what came from their hearts that has me alive to stand here and talk to you

alive to stand here and talk to you

alive to stand here and talk to you today

today

today I had recently given a speech about my

I had recently given a speech about my

I had recently given a speech about my past to a small group of people but when

past to a small group of people but when

past to a small group of people but when I had completed it and was about to

I had completed it and was about to

I had completed it and was about to depart a man in the group said give me a

depart a man in the group said give me a

depart a man in the group said give me a hug

hug

hug well this is prison and guys look at the

well this is prison and guys look at the

well this is prison and guys look at the guy prisoners he looked at me and

guy prisoners he looked at me and

guy prisoners he looked at me and hugging not in a good way but the guy

hugging not in a good way but the guy

hugging not in a good way but the guy said give me a hug again so he hugged me

said give me a hug again so he hugged me

said give me a hug again so he hugged me and when I hugged him I realized I

and when I hugged him I realized I

and when I hugged him I realized I didn’t feel his arms what I didn’t feel

didn’t feel his arms what I didn’t feel

didn’t feel his arms what I didn’t feel was nothing negative the only thing I

was nothing negative the only thing I

was nothing negative the only thing I felt was peace harmony tranquility love

felt was peace harmony tranquility love

felt was peace harmony tranquility love and I realized that this man kind of

and I realized that this man kind of

and I realized that this man kind of like the rabbit for some reason or

like the rabbit for some reason or

like the rabbit for some reason or another he would have been placed in

another he would have been placed in

another he would have been placed in that spot on that day at that time to

that spot on that day at that time to

that spot on that day at that time to teach me something

teach me something

teach me something to give me something I realized that he

to give me something I realized that he

to give me something I realized that he had just hugged me with his heart

had just hugged me with his heart

had just hugged me with his heart I’m glad of that no matter how anybody

I’m glad of that no matter how anybody

I’m glad of that no matter how anybody looks at it it’s the one of the best

looks at it it’s the one of the best

looks at it it’s the one of the best blessings I ever had in my life I know

blessings I ever had in my life I know

blessings I ever had in my life I know that I know it started out this speech

that I know it started out this speech

that I know it started out this speech it’s obvious that as a child I didn’t

it’s obvious that as a child I didn’t

it’s obvious that as a child I didn’t know much about the matters of love but

know much about the matters of love but

know much about the matters of love but a small rabbit without any words said

a small rabbit without any words said

a small rabbit without any words said your heart I trust a small pony without

your heart I trust a small pony without

your heart I trust a small pony without any hands sheltered me and said I love

any hands sheltered me and said I love

any hands sheltered me and said I love you people at Kalinga regional treatment

you people at Kalinga regional treatment

you people at Kalinga regional treatment center the medical they healed me with

center the medical they healed me with

center the medical they healed me with their hearts if love was in a particular

their hearts if love was in a particular

their hearts if love was in a particular place or a particular person if it had a

place or a particular person if it had a

place or a particular person if it had a particular measurement particular skin

particular measurement particular skin

particular measurement particular skin tone eye color any of them things we’d

tone eye color any of them things we’d

tone eye color any of them things we’d all know where it was that because

all know where it was that because

all know where it was that because everybody on the planet would be heading

everybody on the planet would be heading

everybody on the planet would be heading in that direction we could just follow

in that direction we could just follow

in that direction we could just follow the traffic love is in a particular

the traffic love is in a particular

the traffic love is in a particular place and today it’s obvious from all

place and today it’s obvious from all

place and today it’s obvious from all you people here and it’s an every one of

you people here and it’s an every one of

you people here and it’s an every one of you if you got a mirror we’ll just look

you if you got a mirror we’ll just look

you if you got a mirror we’ll just look in it and then go beneath the surface

in it and then go beneath the surface

in it and then go beneath the surface and go into your heart

and go into your heart

and go into your heart my challenge to you is be like the

my challenge to you is be like the

my challenge to you is be like the rabbit find someone who’s in need like I

rabbit find someone who’s in need like I

rabbit find someone who’s in need like I was and maybe without words show them

was and maybe without words show them

was and maybe without words show them love or like that little pony touch them

love or like that little pony touch them

love or like that little pony touch them with something other than your hands and

with something other than your hands and

with something other than your hands and have an impact in their life or like

have an impact in their life or like

have an impact in their life or like those doctors and their nurses love is

those doctors and their nurses love is

those doctors and their nurses love is not this this superficial thing that a

not this this superficial thing that a

not this this superficial thing that a lot of people aspire to it’s something

lot of people aspire to it’s something

lot of people aspire to it’s something much deeper it’s of spiritual dimensions

those people they knew that the medicine

those people they knew that the medicine it wasn’t gonna do it but they had in

it wasn’t gonna do it but they had in

it wasn’t gonna do it but they had in them what it took to keep me alive they

them what it took to keep me alive they

them what it took to keep me alive they stand here and talk to you today each of

stand here and talk to you today each of

stand here and talk to you today each of you having you what it takes to support

you having you what it takes to support

you having you what it takes to support life in each of you every day and I

life in each of you every day and I

life in each of you every day and I believe that this is what you should do

believe that this is what you should do

believe that this is what you should do thank you

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