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Procesos de Paz: El poder Invisible de los Militares. | Rodrigo Mezú | TEDxFulbrightBogotá


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I am Rodrigo me his official mine of the

Colombian Air Force

I was born and grew up in Santander de Quilichao

municipality located north of

department of cauca department that

has suffered the ravages of violence

comes from a simple family

studious and hardworking like few

children in this country

I learned to swim alone in a river and

ride a bicycle borrowed by a neighbor

however violence also

I would arrive at the doors of my family

at the end of the 19th century the north of

Cauca department was still

object the illegal slave trade

Between Colombia and Peru

during that period of violence the

fratricidal war between liberals and

conservatives

my grandfather to leave behind his wife and

his daughters fleeing for his life and

ending in the 1980s the estate of

my grandmother located in Caloto would be

invaded by the guerrillas

with all this enter the force

Colombian air and I’m going to a desire

Uncontrollable want to help

progress of my country I imagined

knowing not only new people

but the cultures of this country and the

most recondite places and maybe what

I was doing it so that it will not hurt me so much

fact of having to leave my family in

special to my mom whom I told

bold bold

I go studied four years and came back

do not worry about it but are they

telling lies to my mom and not what

I knew

only with time did I realize that

when one decides to make the race

official

the Colombian air force never

He returned home unless it is

I visited 10 years ago I was a crew member

of a tracking plane and

recognition with four companions

more would give us the order than in itself

it was tragic

we have to go find a helicopter

of the Colombian air force that

had injured in the vicinity of

Department of Caquetá aboard the

aircraft there was a friend and companion

my own

luis enrique guzmán aki the can

affectionately the weevil we left grandfather

and we landed at the base of three

corners in this same department a

voice message that I remember as if

out today I would report the death of my

brother had to leave on the fly

again and after four hours and

Search is rich but we can find it

they would confirm that all the

crew had already died the pain

it was double

months later the call would be very

similar to the previous

my disconsolate sister was trying

organize your words my other brother

I had died

I could not believe it, my heart was

undone last night very long faith

a lola aneurysm allowed me to see my

brother goodbye to her three children

his wife or our mother

and there were my two brothers full

of dreams of many dreams of the future

one was a lawyer and the other was a plane

chemist and those dreams only

they were in our memory

they will ask why I tell them is

story because it was this way so

painful that I learned that if we have

wishes and future projects there are

start working for them you no longer have

to start working because these

projects to be present will be

reals become concrete during their

days of pain that if you take a

decision to throw myself at the same time number

unknown applying to the scholarship

fulbright was totally convinced

that he was not going to be accepted

I thought I did not have the intelligence

enough to fight for these scholarships

that these scholarships were only

designed for a type of people

within this society and that in English

I loose English learned not in

bilingual schools but in many

institutes or with recognized one that

another acquaintance would not allow me to fight

He said as an equal for this scholarship

look I waited I knew I won a scholarship

a master’s degree in studies

international applied conflicts

and the cooperation that partly

would help to form a group of

military and police that would go to the

Havana Cuba to help change the

history of peace processes in this

country and have been part of this

technical subcommittee for the purpose of

conflict

it was not easy at the beginning I imagined

be sitting with the guerrillas of

the FARC a guerrilla that hurt so much

has done to the country and so old and the

I really did not see it as if it were a

honor for me was just the opposite was

dishonor

also some fellow friends

subaltern superiors did not see how

traitors but that was not all the time

so gr

for this opportunity and advocating for

peace was that I could put into practice

my knowledge learned in states

joined on August 21 , 2014 on board

of an airplane fokker 28 manufacture

Dutch at the service of force

Colombian air force would strike them a group

of the military and police in the direction of

habana cuba was a very group

heterogeneous they had experts in

intelligence in political operations

international lawyers we would travel

to start what was called the

technical subcommittee for the purpose of

conflict that would be charged only

design a ceasefire model and

abandonment of the weapons of the ffaa

I must be honest the presentation in

society before the members with the

potential josh of the government and the

farc I had totally nervous to

one of the military force does not teach it

how to take on these kinds of challenges about

everything if they had a political tinge in

one thing is to be in front of a

ordinary citizen and another very

different to be in front of one of the

most feared and bloodthirsty guerrillas

in the eastern plains at the time

as romañá famous and sadly

famous for the miraculous catches that

were the random kidnappings in the

roads of colombia and when one looks

a guerrilla in the conditions that

It touched us in Havana Cuba

that feeling of duty so ingrained

within the military it was put in

doubt and all the preparation that

we had forgotten

I did not know where to put my eyes if the

look front to front

they wanted me to be warlike and if I did not

toward

well, we were giving skill

we also came with skepticism of

the partners that without any

Participation reference

military active in peace processes

they doubted our city capabilities

of our role

for so long that the forces

military has fought with armed groups

illegal outside the law

never but he had never explained

that this could end up on a table

conversations

that one does not learn the schools of

training far in the war

then why would we believe that

our colleagues would understand that

change of role

that paradigm shift if even

they had not explained

animosity of them was stone

natural and retirees

Well, not even in Havana

the fight was against a group of

guerrillas that he generated and still

generates a lot of hatred in some sectors of

the population and that’s where he was born

my first reflection because if the

military and police

we had been in this conflict

armed so long defending the

civil population

even offering his own life was

just natural we were in the

political resolution of them

because participation is fundamental

of the military there at the high level

where were those theories that speak

only six poles designed by a

famous academic expert in

armed conflicts called stephen

steadman for esteban the spoilers or

saboteurs were people or groups of

people who could put at risk

the negotiation processes and or your

implementation for Mr. Stern and

his disciples imagine that a group

there is active military part of the

negotiation teams in the processes

of peace and were successful would be almost

impossible

the first question was part of the

doctoral research

after being witnesses of the events of the

Success of the events in Havana Cuba

and comparing this same role played

by the other military policemen in the

havana

in other peace processes where

the military participated as the savior

burma guatemala among others

we would realize that the military

they were not such saboteurs

on the contrary they were people who speak a

language very similar to that of the counterpart

they lacked diplomacy

I did things very face to face and

instantly and apart from that they were people

knowing the land that handles the

guerrilla

at the beginning the negotiating members of

the FARC came to us and told us that

You can do it with us

prevented very reluctant we take it as

if they were strategy of them to

approaching his bed and away from

our natural leaders who were the

political people only happened

with us there were other processes

of peace where the military participated

between them with the fmln

the front farabundo martí for the

Salvadoran revival liberation

General Mauricio Vargas said to him

general in charge of leading a group of

military very similar to ours

he was called general if he had not

been for being the military

we had already risen from

the table and already when we were in the

tables returned the guesses and we

we ask why we have to

sit down with these guerrillas if they are

the uncivilized

well it was very difficult with military

we knew everything or almost all of them and not

we wanted to get involved personally

with the guerrilla but if we want to be

successful

we were aware that we must fight

against our own demons against

our own paradigms then the

our success would be the sixth in the country

and we were aware that not only

we are working with streams

we work with people with Colombians

in this way he reacts he got

again to test every time

we went to the recesses and we have a lot

hungry

it gives us a lot of set

we do not want to meet with

them in the kitchen is that we did like

strategy we put up with hunger but I

I want to tell you that strategy is not

It worked well after spending

intellectual that we had in each of

these meetings because we do not

we could wait for the guerrillas to

food all our food that

we ended up doing we ended up satisfying

hunger and thirst in the same place with

them and conversing talking with

them and we think to empathize as

people

then the military and police never

we were the stone in the shoe in this

peace process

we are more and we have been its guarantors

of the present and the future

we hope that beyond the

decision makers see us as

useful people that we can help

solve armed conflicts in

other hemispheres two years and a few months

Then we would give the country a

ceasefire model and abandonment of

the arms of the farc have believed that

military and police would sit in

a table with the farc was impossible in

special for a person like me who

comes from the departments that have most

suffered violence

the massacres of indigenous people the

forced displacement the population

afro the confluence of armed groups

illegals

today we can dream in part thanks to

work of many people without a name

last name and without uniform that left

back their families to look for something

uncertain the department of cauca

I was so stigmatized even at

inside of the military forces and the

national police that nobody wanted to be

moved to what they called cauca

attend a small afghanistan inside

from Colombia

but thanks to this process we can

again the caucanos think remember

that pride our homeland girl

enjoy the rivers in peace of the river

cauca river patía like I did not do it

I enjoyed it in war and they take away the

future to be able to exploit those benefits that

has this department as green as

its fauna and flora

these negotiations not only

they showed that this peace process was

possible but also that the attempts

failed the past would be solved

but also that military and police

we have other roles within that

society beyond that cast bullet that

we are people prepared with vision of

country that we are a new generation

he learned what we should talk

teach the training schools

we learned in practice that

internal armed conflicts

nowadays they can finish a table of

conversations in a peace process and

that the world can learn from others

the success of our participation

shows that military and police

we have other potentials that

They can cultivate that they can teach us

to negotiate and not only to fight

flee and not only to defend to debate

and not just obey

thank you very much

the letters

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