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El Reto de la Ciencia y la Política | Brigitte Baptiste | TEDxFulbrightBogotá


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there is a very peculiar kind of people

very strange to what we call the

decision makers with people to

those we have chosen have been named

or have been self-appointed to decide the

way the best way for society

or for the family or for a team

sports

the leaders we also call them the

decision is that these people take in

set with others or alone have two

fundamental sources of knowledge

one that provides science or systems

Formal information acquisition

process it and deliver it in a

robust credible and verifiable and other or

otherwise the knowledge that does not

has a clear and corresponding source

really to ignorance

all the decisions of the world there are

take them based on these two

components because it is impossible to know

everything and much less to know everything for

make decisions that are valid

tomorrow we have to decide if we are going to do

this or we will not do it tomorrow with

the knowledge we have and with the

level of ignorance that we have we must

sign peace for example those cases

illustrate what is happening in the

world how truth is built and the

truth is half limited knowledge

ignorance

that’s why we need a new level of

true

one of the recent cases where I’ve

had the opportunity to participate in

Colombia is the delimitation of the

páramos the Colombian congress decided

nearly a decade ago to protect the

high mountain of the Andean region for

guarantee the provision of water to the

Colombian population

there is a premise behind this and that is

the páramos are the regulators of the

water function and that the páramos are

fundamental for the provision of

water supply service and

filtration of water to the whole society

therefore it is a decision that has a

scientific basis and a willingness to

welfare for everyone

hence the need for

identify the páramos to define the

the way of handling and for especially

exclude activities incompatible with

conservation and preservation

Colombia water are mining and

oil extraction and

agricultural activities

they told us football institute do

the maps of the páramos of colombia

with the best science there is to your

easy layout to draw a line in

a map

these are the unemployed the photo they have

you up front corresponds to a

Colombian high mountain landscape and in

the center vein in the population

Santander above there is a great

number of gold mines and below

there is an agricultural landscape transforming

to you ask where the

páramo would start to look at the photo

depending on the criteria with which

they are going to draw the airline at least

it’s complicated if they ‘re not biologists and

ecologists and they are not geomorphologists and they do not

They have a tradition of science as

surely they would judge at first sight

if there is no wilderness or for

individuals the same happens to them and this case

illustrates the difficulty of drawing a

line where there really is not a

radical difference between what is for

me and what is not for me there is a great

amount of conditions that make that

border towards extremely blurred

Well, we bring a franchise

let’s look at an intermediate solution but

legally you can not because a

past the line

all the people who are above

from the line

they must stop doing mining to have

cows or to cultivate and that generates some

very important impacts

therefore the work is not so simple

how it looks

here our friend calvin talking to him

the tiger complains about precisely that

problem and sighs between more one knows

how doctors more complicated is

makes life as soon as you inform yourself

start to see the complexities begin

to see the graduality between the white and

black all shades of gray and

finally be an account that there is no

nothing simple as it appears at first

view

in the end , knowledge paralyzes us

being a man of action I can not

take the luxury of risk throwing me their

books but the tasks and the tiger

you say you are ignorant but at least

you act based on it costs us

a lot of work to make decisions when not

we have complete knowledge we do not

awareness that all of our

decisions

security people and a component

uncertain an unpredictable component and

which is part of the nature of

things that happen like that if everything were

uncertain

I do not know what we would be we would not have

no phoenix and that in the future

no reason to act in the

I presented

If everything was defined, I do not know

what kind of existence

we could therefore have the first

advice is always enjoy our

ignorance and enjoy our

knowledge and how from a glass we can

go filling the other to realize

that all knowledge generates more

ignorance and vice versa does not have to

be a torture

you have to know how to face it in politics

However, this is complicated because

politicians that lives on promises and if

they promise something good they have already learned that

there is no month to fulfill it

if there is a way we had not

provided

the uncertainty they do know is that they do not

we had foreseen the phenomenon of

girl we had not anticipated but it ‘s

The fault of scientists is the fault of the

science that is not good in the

scientists collaborate

scientists from another neighbor but he got

to promise what he could not then

what is the promise the scientists in

about 20 years we have some

suggestion

I waited we processed this data and

we connect a satellite

there ‘s really a break sometimes

among the mechanisms used by

decision makers and the types of

knowledge are required for fact and

that is again normal to the extent

that the future is partially predictable

probabilistically predictable

this may not happen in the days

to come

based on this scenario

but we’re really not going to see it because

It is full of surprises when I

will you tell the history of humanity

they will realize that many of the

developments that have led us to the

way of life that we have today has to

watch with amazing events events

unpredictable and say that we can not

prepare for the future if we can

again combining things there

other spaces of uncertainty or

fuzzy of knowledge a little more

complicated when you see in the photo

of this well-known friend has something

Strange is not so well known something

they did and a doubt begins to be generated

a doubt about the change

if we try to understand from

where the change comes from we have to

look at the theories of evolution not

necessarily the biological evolution

that can cause complications in

some cases for who we are

believers or we are not believers have

contradictions is hard to accept

but we think about the change in the

growth of the company we learn in

the history of a nation we think of

the development of an initiative and

we will see how the initial conditions

are always giving rise to new

conditions and this in turn allows that

the system is feedback

persistently and new ones appear

things

if evolution is a mechanism

whereby the elements of a

system interact with each other and they go

creating things all the time what we

produces anguish is perhaps the

inexorable of the process there are always things

new we always have to give reason to

what’s new but good we can not

stay a little calmer

depending on how we are trained and

how we think the change is more

distressing because it generates uncertainty

because it generates forces us to live in that

Blurry zone without guarantees

there are other people who say or not

welcome the adrenaline

it does not matter that we do not know, we throw ourselves

river to see what happens to gale in science

we talk about different types of

Knowledge knowledge very robust

that comes from experimentation is

repeatable and verifiable by any

person in the same circumstances

but it is not the only knowledge is such

time that we would like to have for

to know if santa faith is going to win this

Sunday not but it turns out that it is impossible

science can not predict people

who spends his life looking at books

of lottery to know it can not be

knowledge the applied science of

the professional consultation

are levels at which I no longer

So much clarity needs so much

to predict

things need to work

relatively well how technology

one has a television that works

relatively well until it’s over

the guarantee

after that man the next and

finally there is knowledge

everyday is what one uses to move

in the world one needs theories to

survive to work to have

really unique families little science and

Make your decisions based on advice

based on instinct based on what

that friends tell him in the end that’s the

science then normal the one that I have a

cream serves you for those wrinkles not

use it and know and you do not know what it is

done they do not know anything

So that’s where the issue of

the communication of knowledge as

from classical greece

knowledge was not good for saying what

what we know and what we do not know

That’s why communication was typical of

the gods was hermes the one who transmitted

the messages of the gods of what

important that I was think like today

day we are entering a moment in

that communication is what makes us

to travel through the half truths the

possibilities has stirred

between what we know and what we do not know

and then we need to build new

mechanisms that allow us to combine or

solve knowledge in a better way

the different types of knowledge with

the ignorance

I bring the example of those who are going to

save the panels your scientific panel

politicians or scientific interfaces

policies that are institutions where

different types of citizen experts and

decision makers of any

nature sit together to discuss what

what is known and what is not known for

recommend courses of action in the

past

all politicians had advisers

the wise men of the court

the knower but usually when

the emperor fell

advisor also cut off his head is

the end of that panel of that symbiosis we

leads to think of a more

collectivized there is a way to treat

these problems in a way and ones

protocols for scientists and

politicians can decide together and

decide together based on what is

know and what you do not know if in some

moment you have to throw a coin to

know what we have to do that we share

the responsibility that in the academy

it costs us a lot of work in conclusion

what I want to show you is also

that it is impossible to know everything that is

needs to

even for day to day

we have to live with the change we have

to live with things that come from the

nothing that cause us anguish that we

they produce discomfort that disturb us

because that is what allows us

also adapt

that’s where the answer is and why

the same reason

we avoid new institutions we are

new ways of understanding and defining the

truth with which we operate in this

planet

thank you very much

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