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How Photography Saved My Life | Marvi Lacar | TEDxCarnegieLake


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so not many of us can stay at a very

so not many of us can stay at a very young age I know my purpose in life I

young age I know my purpose in life I

young age I know my purpose in life I know exactly what I want to do and how

know exactly what I want to do and how

know exactly what I want to do and how to get there that’s normally a pretty

to get there that’s normally a pretty

to get there that’s normally a pretty long and circuitous road for most of us

long and circuitous road for most of us

long and circuitous road for most of us but for some reason I thought I was one

but for some reason I thought I was one

but for some reason I thought I was one of the lucky ones so I said I’m gonna

of the lucky ones so I said I’m gonna

of the lucky ones so I said I’m gonna make it in New York City

make it in New York City

make it in New York City as a photojournalist with $1,500 in my

as a photojournalist with $1,500 in my

as a photojournalist with $1,500 in my bank account so I moved to New York and

bank account so I moved to New York and

bank account so I moved to New York and I did I ended up getting jobs and

I did I ended up getting jobs and

I did I ended up getting jobs and working and supporting myself I even met

working and supporting myself I even met

working and supporting myself I even met a man fell in love got married I was

a man fell in love got married I was

a man fell in love got married I was living my personal and professional

living my personal and professional

living my personal and professional dream and I said to myself in that cocky

dream and I said to myself in that cocky

dream and I said to myself in that cocky twenty-year-old way well that wasn’t so

twenty-year-old way well that wasn’t so

twenty-year-old way well that wasn’t so hard like I don’t really know what my

hard like I don’t really know what my

hard like I don’t really know what my mom was so nervous about until I got

mom was so nervous about until I got

mom was so nervous about until I got news that my father was gravely ill and

news that my father was gravely ill and

news that my father was gravely ill and all these memories of a painful past

all these memories of a painful past

all these memories of a painful past came rushing back and I wasn’t ready for

came rushing back and I wasn’t ready for

came rushing back and I wasn’t ready for it I had a very complicated relationship

it I had a very complicated relationship

it I had a very complicated relationship with my father he was a very doting

with my father he was a very doting

with my father he was a very doting father but he was an emotionally and

father but he was an emotionally and

father but he was an emotionally and physically abusive husband to my mother

physically abusive husband to my mother

physically abusive husband to my mother for a while I thought I grew up in a

for a while I thought I grew up in a

for a while I thought I grew up in a happy home because I had my mom and the

happy home because I had my mom and the

happy home because I had my mom and the rest of my family and friends to thank

rest of my family and friends to thank

rest of my family and friends to thank for her and I honestly forgot about my

for her and I honestly forgot about my

for her and I honestly forgot about my painful past when I left my dad’s house

painful past when I left my dad’s house

painful past when I left my dad’s house and I stopped talking to him when I was

and I stopped talking to him when I was

and I stopped talking to him when I was a teenager but when I got the phone call

a teenager but when I got the phone call

a teenager but when I got the phone call all the memories came back and I

all the memories came back and I

all the memories came back and I physically emotionally but also

physically emotionally but also

physically emotionally but also physically could not handle it I fell

physically could not handle it I fell

physically could not handle it I fell into a very deep depression and prior to

into a very deep depression and prior to

into a very deep depression and prior to 2008 I

2008 I

2008 I really know what depression was I kind

really know what depression was I kind

really know what depression was I kind of used that word very casually like the

of used that word very casually like the

of used that word very casually like the runner in my pantyhose that’s so

runner in my pantyhose that’s so

runner in my pantyhose that’s so depressing but I didn’t know it was a

depressing but I didn’t know it was a

depressing but I didn’t know it was a medical condition I didn’t know that

medical condition I didn’t know that

medical condition I didn’t know that there was a chemical shift in my brain

there was a chemical shift in my brain

there was a chemical shift in my brain that affected me physically as well I

that affected me physically as well I

that affected me physically as well I couldn’t get up I didn’t really want to

couldn’t get up I didn’t really want to

couldn’t get up I didn’t really want to eat didn’t want to get out of the house

eat didn’t want to get out of the house

eat didn’t want to get out of the house my husband Ben actually had to shower me

my husband Ben actually had to shower me

my husband Ben actually had to shower me feed me bathe me and it was such a

feed me bathe me and it was such a

feed me bathe me and it was such a confusing state because it wasn’t as if

confusing state because it wasn’t as if

confusing state because it wasn’t as if I was trying to be lazy I wanted to be

I was trying to be lazy I wanted to be

I was trying to be lazy I wanted to be lazy I didn’t but it felt like a sumo

lazy I didn’t but it felt like a sumo

lazy I didn’t but it felt like a sumo wrestler was sitting on my chest

wrestler was sitting on my chest

wrestler was sitting on my chest and I could not physically fight from

and I could not physically fight from

and I could not physically fight from that gravitational pull so my husband

that gravitational pull so my husband

that gravitational pull so my husband who is a photo journalist as well

who is a photo journalist as well

who is a photo journalist as well encouraged me to document what I was

encouraged me to document what I was

encouraged me to document what I was going through he said that I should

going through he said that I should

going through he said that I should photograph and that I should write

photograph and that I should write

photograph and that I should write everything down which was a really great

everything down which was a really great

everything down which was a really great idea because everything was so

idea because everything was so

idea because everything was so exhausting at that time and talking to

exhausting at that time and talking to

exhausting at that time and talking to my therapist was exhausting I didn’t

my therapist was exhausting I didn’t

my therapist was exhausting I didn’t want to do it but for some reason these

want to do it but for some reason these

want to do it but for some reason these tools that I had my camera and my pen

tools that I had my camera and my pen

tools that I had my camera and my pen were able to capture everything that I

were able to capture everything that I

were able to capture everything that I was feeling I didn’t have to tell my

was feeling I didn’t have to tell my

was feeling I didn’t have to tell my therapist

therapist

therapist what anxiety felt like I just

what anxiety felt like I just

what anxiety felt like I just photographed it and I thought that this

photographed it and I thought that this

photographed it and I thought that this was a good way for me to really study

was a good way for me to really study

was a good way for me to really study and understand the state that I was then

and understand the state that I was then

and understand the state that I was then if only I could capture my thoughts and

if only I could capture my thoughts and

if only I could capture my thoughts and transfer that onto a piece of paper or

transfer that onto a piece of paper or

transfer that onto a piece of paper or translate my emotion and transfer that

translate my emotion and transfer that

translate my emotion and transfer that into a photographic print then maybe I

into a photographic print then maybe I

into a photographic print then maybe I could study it with more distance and

could study it with more distance and

could study it with more distance and really understand this illness this dip

really understand this illness this dip

really understand this illness this dip question that I had so I chronicled

question that I had so I chronicled

question that I had so I chronicled because it felt like I didn’t have any

because it felt like I didn’t have any

because it felt like I didn’t have any other choice but to do this it was

other choice but to do this it was

other choice but to do this it was survival for me it was cathartic and it

survival for me it was cathartic and it

survival for me it was cathartic and it was during this time that I got a phone

was during this time that I got a phone

was during this time that I got a phone call from my father

call from my father

call from my father and perhaps it’s because I just wasn’t

and perhaps it’s because I just wasn’t

and perhaps it’s because I just wasn’t ready to face those emotions yet I was

ready to face those emotions yet I was

ready to face those emotions yet I was still working through them that I didn’t

still working through them that I didn’t

still working through them that I didn’t answer his call I let it go to voicemail

answer his call I let it go to voicemail

answer his call I let it go to voicemail and when I finally was able to get up

and when I finally was able to get up

and when I finally was able to get up the courage and listen to the voicemail

the courage and listen to the voicemail

the courage and listen to the voicemail I didn’t understand what he was saying

I didn’t understand what he was saying

I didn’t understand what he was saying it was very garbled there was an

it was very garbled there was an

it was very garbled there was an overseas call and I didn’t call him back

overseas call and I didn’t call him back

overseas call and I didn’t call him back so I didn’t really know what he wanted

so I didn’t really know what he wanted

so I didn’t really know what he wanted to tell me and I never could I never

to tell me and I never could I never

to tell me and I never could I never would three days later I get a call from

would three days later I get a call from

would three days later I get a call from my cousin saying that my father had died

my cousin saying that my father had died

my cousin saying that my father had died alone in his hospital room in the

alone in his hospital room in the

alone in his hospital room in the Philippines and if I was sad before I

Philippines and if I was sad before I

Philippines and if I was sad before I had what my therapist called a double

had what my therapist called a double

had what my therapist called a double dip this time this time I was done I did

dip this time this time I was done I did

dip this time this time I was done I did not feel anything my world was hazy

not feel anything my world was hazy

not feel anything my world was hazy there was a disconnect between my

there was a disconnect between my

there was a disconnect between my physical self and the rest of the world

physical self and the rest of the world

physical self and the rest of the world if my husband Ben kissed me on a good

if my husband Ben kissed me on a good

if my husband Ben kissed me on a good day maybe I would feel the warmth of his

day maybe I would feel the warmth of his

day maybe I would feel the warmth of his cheeks but that would not really

cheeks but that would not really

cheeks but that would not really register as love or tenderness and the

register as love or tenderness and the

register as love or tenderness and the worst thing the worst thing about

worst thing the worst thing about

worst thing the worst thing about feeling like you’re dead inside

feeling like you’re dead inside

feeling like you’re dead inside is understanding that you’re sober

is understanding that you’re sober

is understanding that you’re sober enough and conscious enough to live

enough and conscious enough to live

enough and conscious enough to live through that and so I cut

I cut not because it was a cry for help

I cut not because it was a cry for help I cut because I needed to remind myself

I cut because I needed to remind myself

I cut because I needed to remind myself that I could still feel my husband

that I could still feel my husband

that I could still feel my husband started his career as a photojournalist

started his career as a photojournalist

started his career as a photojournalist in Iraq when he was 23 so I’ve never

in Iraq when he was 23 so I’ve never

in Iraq when he was 23 so I’ve never really seen fear in that man but on this

really seen fear in that man but on this

really seen fear in that man but on this day when he tried to Jimmy the door with

day when he tried to Jimmy the door with

day when he tried to Jimmy the door with a butter knife and he barged into the

a butter knife and he barged into the

a butter knife and he barged into the room and he grabbed my hand he took the

room and he grabbed my hand he took the

room and he grabbed my hand he took the knife away and he was screaming what are

knife away and he was screaming what are

knife away and he was screaming what are you doing this is your life this is your

you doing this is your life this is your

you doing this is your life this is your friends your family this is an art

friends your family this is an art

friends your family this is an art that’s it and I did what any rational

that’s it and I did what any rational

that’s it and I did what any rational person would do I put my camera down I

person would do I put my camera down I

person would do I put my camera down I picked up my pen and I wrote what are

picked up my pen and I wrote what are

picked up my pen and I wrote what are you doing

you doing

you doing this is your life this is your family

this is your life this is your family

this is your life this is your family this is your friend it was a very hazy

this is your friend it was a very hazy

this is your friend it was a very hazy moment for me and it took me a while

moment for me and it took me a while

moment for me and it took me a while actually years when I looked at this

actually years when I looked at this

actually years when I looked at this image again that I realized how utterly

image again that I realized how utterly

image again that I realized how utterly terrifying and lonely this must have

terrifying and lonely this must have

terrifying and lonely this must have been for Ben this was the first time

been for Ben this was the first time

been for Ben this was the first time that he finally decided to call my

that he finally decided to call my

that he finally decided to call my doctor and commit me to the psych ward

when I first took this image it was

when I first took this image it was purely as a study again I wanted to

purely as a study again I wanted to

purely as a study again I wanted to understand the state that I was in and I

understand the state that I was in and I

understand the state that I was in and I wanted to see what I must have looked

wanted to see what I must have looked

wanted to see what I must have looked like from the perspective of where my

like from the perspective of where my

like from the perspective of where my mother was standing just as a study and

mother was standing just as a study and

mother was standing just as a study and I didn’t really see see this image again

I didn’t really see see this image again

I didn’t really see see this image again until the years later when I became a

until the years later when I became a

until the years later when I became a mother myself and I became wracked with

mother myself and I became wracked with

mother myself and I became wracked with guilt because what that must have felt

guilt because what that must have felt

guilt because what that must have felt like for my mother to see her youngest

like for my mother to see her youngest

like for my mother to see her youngest daughter

daughter

daughter wanting to just give up I didn’t fully

wanting to just give up I didn’t fully

wanting to just give up I didn’t fully appreciate the fear and the pain that

appreciate the fear and the pain that

appreciate the fear and the pain that must have been for her she never left my

must have been for her she never left my

must have been for her she never left my side he never left my side either Ben

side he never left my side either Ben

side he never left my side either Ben was always with me even in the bathroom

was always with me even in the bathroom

was always with me even in the bathroom they no matter what I was doing he was

they no matter what I was doing he was

they no matter what I was doing he was so scared

spud didn’t even ask to be walked he

spud didn’t even ask to be walked he didn’t ask to feed he just stayed with

didn’t ask to feed he just stayed with

didn’t ask to feed he just stayed with me he wouldn’t go anywhere so I

me he wouldn’t go anywhere so I

me he wouldn’t go anywhere so I continued to document even in the psych

continued to document even in the psych

continued to document even in the psych ward

ward

ward I would jot down these conversations

I would jot down these conversations

I would jot down these conversations that I had with everyone until this was

that I had with everyone until this was

that I had with everyone until this was no longer my story I started sharing it

no longer my story I started sharing it

no longer my story I started sharing it in group and someone in therapy actually

in group and someone in therapy actually

in group and someone in therapy actually said you know what Marva hearing your

said you know what Marva hearing your

said you know what Marva hearing your words make me feel like I belong and

words make me feel like I belong and

words make me feel like I belong and that meant a lot to me because that’s

that meant a lot to me because that’s

that meant a lot to me because that’s what group therapy was for me I no

what group therapy was for me I no

what group therapy was for me I no longer felt like an anomaly I was with

longer felt like an anomaly I was with

longer felt like an anomaly I was with people who knew exactly what it felt

people who knew exactly what it felt

people who knew exactly what it felt like to be depressed and I realized that

like to be depressed and I realized that

like to be depressed and I realized that there were more people who needed it who

there were more people who needed it who

there were more people who needed it who needed to express themselves because

needed to express themselves because

needed to express themselves because they needed that companionship and

they needed that companionship and

they needed that companionship and that’s how one in 20 was born one in 20

that’s how one in 20 was born one in 20

that’s how one in 20 was born one in 20 is the gathering of people who have been

is the gathering of people who have been

is the gathering of people who have been touched by mental illness whether you

touched by mental illness whether you

touched by mental illness whether you are a sufferer or a caregiver a suicide

are a sufferer or a caregiver a suicide

are a sufferer or a caregiver a suicide survivor or a loss survivor one in 20 is

survivor or a loss survivor one in 20 is

survivor or a loss survivor one in 20 is a space for people to express themselves

a space for people to express themselves

a space for people to express themselves free of judgment and free of stigma it

free of judgment and free of stigma it

free of judgment and free of stigma it was essentially an experiment on empathy

was essentially an experiment on empathy

was essentially an experiment on empathy and self-expression that would live on

and self-expression that would live on

and self-expression that would live on social media and one of the submissions

social media and one of the submissions

social media and one of the submissions that really stuck with me

that really stuck with me

that really stuck with me was Ehrich submission and it was a

was Ehrich submission and it was a

was Ehrich submission and it was a series of questions about his son Joshua

series of questions about his son Joshua

series of questions about his son Joshua who he lost at the age of three and I’m

who he lost at the age of three and I’m

who he lost at the age of three and I’m gonna read you a few lines from Eric’s

gonna read you a few lines from Eric’s

gonna read you a few lines from Eric’s submission if I had gone to his room

submission if I had gone to his room

submission if I had gone to his room five minutes early would he still be

five minutes early would he still be

five minutes early would he still be there is it okay to go days at a time

there is it okay to go days at a time

there is it okay to go days at a time and not think about him is it okay for

and not think about him is it okay for

and not think about him is it okay for me to be so happy in life how do I

me to be so happy in life how do I

me to be so happy in life how do I answer a stranger who asks how many

answer a stranger who asks how many

answer a stranger who asks how many children I have Eric’s story resonated

children I have Eric’s story resonated

children I have Eric’s story resonated with me because it made me feel guilty

with me because it made me feel guilty

with me because it made me feel guilty as much as I love my children as scared

as much as I love my children as scared

as much as I love my children as scared I am to have the experience that Eric

I am to have the experience that Eric

I am to have the experience that Eric had for some reason I felt trapped in

had for some reason I felt trapped in

had for some reason I felt trapped in this world that I was in I was now a new

this world that I was in I was now a new

this world that I was in I was now a new mother of two I had left-footed

mother of two I had left-footed

mother of two I had left-footed journalism I sold all my cameras that

journalism I sold all my cameras that

journalism I sold all my cameras that purpose that I thought I had so coffee

purpose that I thought I had so coffee

purpose that I thought I had so coffee as a 20 year old was no longer and I was

as a 20 year old was no longer and I was

as a 20 year old was no longer and I was lost and I was navigating motherhood and

lost and I was navigating motherhood and

lost and I was navigating motherhood and a culture that really didn’t practice it

a culture that really didn’t practice it

a culture that really didn’t practice it as a communal effort I didn’t have my

as a communal effort I didn’t have my

as a communal effort I didn’t have my camera but I still had my phone because

camera but I still had my phone because

camera but I still had my phone because this is past 2000 Maryam yeh iPhone

this is past 2000 Maryam yeh iPhone

this is past 2000 Maryam yeh iPhone technology so I went back to what I knew

technology so I went back to what I knew

technology so I went back to what I knew how did you the only thing I really knew

how did you the only thing I really knew

how did you the only thing I really knew how to do which was tell stories and I

how to do which was tell stories and I

how to do which was tell stories and I documented but my world was dark even

documented but my world was dark even

documented but my world was dark even play time with Captain America and

play time with Captain America and

play time with Captain America and Wolverine was dark naptime was lonely

my world was still hazy and even

my world was still hazy and even nighttime routines like brushing their

nighttime routines like brushing their

nighttime routines like brushing their teeth was an arduous task but inspired

teeth was an arduous task but inspired

teeth was an arduous task but inspired by one in 20 I decided not just to

by one in 20 I decided not just to

by one in 20 I decided not just to document what I was going through but I

document what I was going through but I

document what I was going through but I wanted to share it to the world I was

wanted to share it to the world I was

wanted to share it to the world I was reaching out for a community who could

reaching out for a community who could

reaching out for a community who could understand what it was like to be a

understand what it was like to be a

understand what it was like to be a parent or to be a caregiver and know

parent or to be a caregiver and know

parent or to be a caregiver and know what the loneliness was like to be in

what the loneliness was like to be in

what the loneliness was like to be in constant anxiety of the safety of your

constant anxiety of the safety of your

constant anxiety of the safety of your children to know what the growing pains

children to know what the growing pains

children to know what the growing pains of a marriage looks like you know when I

of a marriage looks like you know when I

of a marriage looks like you know when I was sick in 2008 spud was with me all

was sick in 2008 spud was with me all

was sick in 2008 spud was with me all the time and I had another dog wheat and

the time and I had another dog wheat and

the time and I had another dog wheat and I had no idea where we was no idea I

I had no idea where we was no idea I

I had no idea where we was no idea I just thought he didn’t care because he

just thought he didn’t care because he

just thought he didn’t care because he was a dog after all and it wasn’t until

was a dog after all and it wasn’t until

was a dog after all and it wasn’t until after his last breath when I heard my

after his last breath when I heard my

after his last breath when I heard my husband wail I turned around and he was

husband wail I turned around and he was

husband wail I turned around and he was collapsed and I realized though he

collapsed and I realized though he

collapsed and I realized though he wasn’t with me because we was taking

wasn’t with me because we was taking

wasn’t with me because we was taking care of

so I did it again I forgot to say thank

so I did it again I forgot to say thank you again and how do you parent during

you again and how do you parent during

you again and how do you parent during that time when your body is so wracked

that time when your body is so wracked

that time when your body is so wracked with guilt that you can barely function

with guilt that you can barely function

with guilt that you can barely function what these dates your seven year old how

what these dates your seven year old how

what these dates your seven year old how do you explain to him to just embrace

do you explain to him to just embrace

do you explain to him to just embrace death as a part of life how do you face

death as a part of life how do you face

death as a part of life how do you face your own mortality and his when he said

your own mortality and his when he said

your own mortality and his when he said to mommy I don’t want to die I don’t

to mommy I don’t want to die I don’t

to mommy I don’t want to die I don’t want to die because if I die my eyes

want to die because if I die my eyes

want to die because if I die my eyes will die and if my eyes die I will no

will die and if my eyes die I will no

will die and if my eyes die I will no longer see you and if I don’t see you

longer see you and if I don’t see you

longer see you and if I don’t see you I’ll forget you and if I forget you I’ll

I’ll forget you and if I forget you I’ll

I’ll forget you and if I forget you I’ll stop loving you and I just cannot stop

stop loving you and I just cannot stop

stop loving you and I just cannot stop loving you mommy

loving you mommy

loving you mommy what do you say so I reached out I

what do you say so I reached out I

what do you say so I reached out I reached out to my community of parents

reached out to my community of parents

reached out to my community of parents and somehow the fog lifted and I started

and somehow the fog lifted and I started

and somehow the fog lifted and I started seeing light all over again for some of

seeing light all over again for some of

seeing light all over again for some of you who are photographers that’s a big

you who are photographers that’s a big

you who are photographers that’s a big thing and I started appreciating my

thing and I started appreciating my

thing and I started appreciating my children for the little people that they

children for the little people that they

children for the little people that they were becoming they started to talk and

were becoming they started to talk and

were becoming they started to talk and reason and they were actually really

reason and they were actually really

reason and they were actually really funny I even enjoyed the quiet

I’m marvel about how strange they were

I’m marvel about how strange they were like really strange

like really strange

like really strange I wasn’t as rattled by the cries anymore

I wasn’t as rattled by the cries anymore

I wasn’t as rattled by the cries anymore because they were normally in costumes

because they were normally in costumes

because they were normally in costumes when that happened and that health and I

when that happened and that health and I

when that happened and that health and I brushed off a lot some of the daily

brushed off a lot some of the daily

brushed off a lot some of the daily challenges I even owned this new

challenges I even owned this new

challenges I even owned this new identity that I had I was no longer the

identity that I had I was no longer the

identity that I had I was no longer the dark brooding artist I was now the mom

dark brooding artist I was now the mom

dark brooding artist I was now the mom who thought cheesy yearbook photos were

who thought cheesy yearbook photos were

who thought cheesy yearbook photos were really really cool and I started to see

really really cool and I started to see

really really cool and I started to see my husband again not just as a father

my husband again not just as a father

my husband again not just as a father but as my life partner and I soaked them

but as my life partner and I soaked them

but as my life partner and I soaked them all yeah and it took a really long time

all yeah and it took a really long time

all yeah and it took a really long time to heal but it wasn’t as daunting

to heal but it wasn’t as daunting

to heal but it wasn’t as daunting because I knew that I was going through

because I knew that I was going through

because I knew that I was going through this journey with a community behind me

this journey with a community behind me

this journey with a community behind me thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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