in 2001 I was a brand-new shiny doctor planning to save the world my first job
planning to save the world my first job
planning to save the world my first job was working for three months on a lung
was working for three months on a lung
was working for three months on a lung cancer unit nearly all of my patients
cancer unit nearly all of my patients
cancer unit nearly all of my patients were smokers or ex smokers and most of
were smokers or ex smokers and most of
were smokers or ex smokers and most of them had started smoking when they were
them had started smoking when they were
them had started smoking when they were children or in their early teens and
children or in their early teens and
children or in their early teens and despite living in a beautiful wealthy
despite living in a beautiful wealthy
despite living in a beautiful wealthy country with access to the most
country with access to the most
country with access to the most sophisticated medicines nearly every
sophisticated medicines nearly every
sophisticated medicines nearly every single one of my patients died everyone
single one of my patients died everyone
single one of my patients died everyone knows tobacco is bad but when you see
knows tobacco is bad but when you see
knows tobacco is bad but when you see the impact firsthand day by day it
the impact firsthand day by day it
the impact firsthand day by day it leaves a very deep impression ten years
leaves a very deep impression ten years
leaves a very deep impression ten years later I’m a radiation oncologist fully
later I’m a radiation oncologist fully
later I’m a radiation oncologist fully aware of the suffering caused by tobacco
aware of the suffering caused by tobacco
aware of the suffering caused by tobacco I’m sitting at the hospital cafeteria
I’m sitting at the hospital cafeteria
I’m sitting at the hospital cafeteria having my first-ever meeting with a
having my first-ever meeting with a
having my first-ever meeting with a representative from my superannuation
representative from my superannuation
representative from my superannuation fund it was thrilling I’m sure you can
fund it was thrilling I’m sure you can
fund it was thrilling I’m sure you can imagine he tells me I’m in the default
imagine he tells me I’m in the default
imagine he tells me I’m in the default option and I said our option does that
option and I said our option does that
option and I said our option does that mean there are other options he looked
mean there are other options he looked
mean there are other options he looked at me rolled his eyes and said well
at me rolled his eyes and said well
at me rolled his eyes and said well there is this one green e option for
there is this one green e option for
there is this one green e option for people who have a problem with investing
people who have a problem with investing
people who have a problem with investing in mining alcohol or tobacco I said did
in mining alcohol or tobacco I said did
in mining alcohol or tobacco I said did you decide about he said yes I said so
you decide about he said yes I said so
you decide about he said yes I said so are you telling me I’m currently
are you telling me I’m currently
are you telling me I’m currently investing in tobacco and he said oh yes
investing in tobacco and he said oh yes
investing in tobacco and he said oh yes everyone is when you invest in a company
everyone is when you invest in a company
everyone is when you invest in a company you own part of that company you want
you own part of that company you want
you own part of that company you want that company to grow and succeed and
that company to grow and succeed and
that company to grow and succeed and thrive you want that company to attract
thrive you want that company to attract
thrive you want that company to attract new customers you want that company to
new customers you want that company to
new customers you want that company to sell more of its products and when it
sell more of its products and when it
sell more of its products and when it comes to tobacco I couldn’t think of
comes to tobacco I couldn’t think of
comes to tobacco I couldn’t think of anything that I wanted less now I know
anything that I wanted less now I know
anything that I wanted less now I know you can only see one person standing
you can only see one person standing
you can only see one person standing here on this big red dot of this
here on this big red dot of this
here on this big red dot of this enormous stage but instead I would like
enormous stage but instead I would like
enormous stage but instead I would like you to imagine that you’re looking at
you to imagine that you’re looking at
you to imagine that you’re looking at seven million people crammed up here
seven million people crammed up here
seven million people crammed up here beside me today seven million people
beside me today seven million people
beside me today seven million people across the world have died as a result
across the world have died as a result
across the world have died as a result of tobacco in the past year alone just
of tobacco in the past year alone just
of tobacco in the past year alone just imagine if a brand new industry were
imagine if a brand new industry were
imagine if a brand new industry were launched today and by the end of next
launched today and by the end of next
launched today and by the end of next June that industry’s products had killed
June that industry’s products had killed
June that industry’s products had killed seven million people would any of us
seven million people would any of us
seven million people would any of us invest in that new deadly industry
invest in that new deadly industry
invest in that new deadly industry tobacco is one of the most pressing
tobacco is one of the most pressing
tobacco is one of the most pressing global issues of our time and most of us
global issues of our time and most of us
global issues of our time and most of us are far more complicit in the problem
are far more complicit in the problem
are far more complicit in the problem than we may realize so the Superfund
than we may realize so the Superfund
than we may realize so the Superfund representative explained to me that
representative explained to me that
representative explained to me that tobacco companies would be found in the
tobacco companies would be found in the
tobacco companies would be found in the International shares portion of my
International shares portion of my
International shares portion of my portfolio so I asked him well which
portfolio so I asked him well which
portfolio so I asked him well which international shares do I have he got
international shares do I have he got
international shares do I have he got back to me two weeks later with this
back to me two weeks later with this
back to me two weeks later with this list
list
list my number one holding in international
my number one holding in international
my number one holding in international shares was British American Tobacco
shares was British American Tobacco
shares was British American Tobacco number two Imperial Tobacco number four
number two Imperial Tobacco number four
number two Imperial Tobacco number four Philip Morris and number five the
Philip Morris and number five the
Philip Morris and number five the Swedish Match company four of the top
Swedish Match company four of the top
Swedish Match company four of the top five companies were tobacco companies my
five companies were tobacco companies my
five companies were tobacco companies my investments and oncologist and then I
investments and oncologist and then I
investments and oncologist and then I realized it wasn’t just me
realized it wasn’t just me
realized it wasn’t just me it was all members of my super fund and
it was all members of my super fund and
it was all members of my super fund and then I realized it wasn’t just my super
then I realized it wasn’t just my super
then I realized it wasn’t just my super fund it was all of them and then I
fund it was all of them and then I
fund it was all of them and then I realized it wasn’t just superannuation
realized it wasn’t just superannuation
realized it wasn’t just superannuation funds
funds
funds it was banks insurers and fund managers
it was banks insurers and fund managers
it was banks insurers and fund managers and then I realized it wasn’t just
and then I realized it wasn’t just
and then I realized it wasn’t just Australia it was the entire global
Australia it was the entire global
Australia it was the entire global finance sector completely tangled up
finance sector completely tangled up
finance sector completely tangled up with the tobacco industry
with the tobacco industry
with the tobacco industry the industry that makes products that
the industry that makes products that
the industry that makes products that kill seven million people every year
kill seven million people every year
kill seven million people every year so I started discussing the issue with
so I started discussing the issue with
so I started discussing the issue with my superannuation fund and I’ve been
my superannuation fund and I’ve been
my superannuation fund and I’ve been discussing it ever since finance leaders
discussing it ever since finance leaders
discussing it ever since finance leaders have many challenging issues to deal
have many challenging issues to deal
have many challenging issues to deal with these days so I suggest they adopt
with these days so I suggest they adopt
with these days so I suggest they adopt a framework that clearly articulates why
a framework that clearly articulates why
a framework that clearly articulates why it is reasonable to take a strong
it is reasonable to take a strong
it is reasonable to take a strong position on tobacco
position on tobacco
position on tobacco I suggest finance leaders ask a suite of
I suggest finance leaders ask a suite of
I suggest finance leaders ask a suite of three questions of any company in which
three questions of any company in which
three questions of any company in which they might invest our money question one
they might invest our money question one
they might invest our money question one can the product made by the company be
can the product made by the company be
can the product made by the company be used safely no is the answer for tobacco
used safely no is the answer for tobacco
used safely no is the answer for tobacco companies zero is the only safe number
companies zero is the only safe number
companies zero is the only safe number of cigarettes for a human being it could
of cigarettes for a human being it could
of cigarettes for a human being it could not be more black and what question – is
not be more black and what question – is
not be more black and what question – is the problem caused by the company so
the problem caused by the company so
the problem caused by the company so significant on a global level that it is
significant on a global level that it is
significant on a global level that it is subject to a UN treaty or convention yes
subject to a UN treaty or convention yes
subject to a UN treaty or convention yes is the answer for tobacco indeed there
is the answer for tobacco indeed there
is the answer for tobacco indeed there is a UN tobacco treaty that has been
is a UN tobacco treaty that has been
is a UN tobacco treaty that has been ratified by 180 countries the treaty was
ratified by 180 countries the treaty was
ratified by 180 countries the treaty was created because of the catastrophic
created because of the catastrophic
created because of the catastrophic global impact of tobacco the current
global impact of tobacco the current
global impact of tobacco the current forecast is that the world is on track
forecast is that the world is on track
forecast is that the world is on track for 1 billion tobacco related deaths
for 1 billion tobacco related deaths
for 1 billion tobacco related deaths this century 1 billion death there’s
this century 1 billion death there’s
this century 1 billion death there’s only 7 billion of us question 3 relates
only 7 billion of us question 3 relates
only 7 billion of us question 3 relates to the concept of engagement many
to the concept of engagement many
to the concept of engagement many financial organizations genuinely want
financial organizations genuinely want
financial organizations genuinely want to be good corporate citizens they want
to be good corporate citizens they want
to be good corporate citizens they want to use their shareholder power to sit
to use their shareholder power to sit
to use their shareholder power to sit down with companies engage with them and
down with companies engage with them and
down with companies engage with them and encourage them to do better things so
encourage them to do better things so
encourage them to do better things so the question is can engagement with the
the question is can engagement with the
the question is can engagement with the company be an effective lever for change
company be an effective lever for change
company be an effective lever for change no is the answer for tobacco companies
no is the answer for tobacco companies
no is the answer for tobacco companies engagement with the tobacco industry is
engagement with the tobacco industry is
engagement with the tobacco industry is futile the only acceptable outcome would
futile the only acceptable outcome would
futile the only acceptable outcome would be if tobacco companies ceased their
be if tobacco companies ceased their
be if tobacco companies ceased their primary business in fact engagement with
primary business in fact engagement with
primary business in fact engagement with the tobacco industry
the tobacco industry
the tobacco industry has never led to less human death when
has never led to less human death when
has never led to less human death when we consider that framework three simple
we consider that framework three simple
we consider that framework three simple questions we can see that it is
questions we can see that it is
questions we can see that it is reasonable and defensible to take a
reasonable and defensible to take a
reasonable and defensible to take a strong position and exclude investment
strong position and exclude investment
strong position and exclude investment in the tobacco industry in addition to
in the tobacco industry in addition to
in the tobacco industry in addition to the UN tobacco treaty there is in fact
the UN tobacco treaty there is in fact
the UN tobacco treaty there is in fact another global treaty that demands that
another global treaty that demands that
another global treaty that demands that we act on tobacco in 2015 the UN adopted
we act on tobacco in 2015 the UN adopted
we act on tobacco in 2015 the UN adopted the sustainable development goals
the sustainable development goals
the sustainable development goals now we’re talking about tobacco and I
now we’re talking about tobacco and I
now we’re talking about tobacco and I know you’re going to jump straight to
know you’re going to jump straight to
know you’re going to jump straight to number three good health and well-being
number three good health and well-being
number three good health and well-being and indeed ramping up tobacco control
and indeed ramping up tobacco control
and indeed ramping up tobacco control regulation is essential if we are going
regulation is essential if we are going
regulation is essential if we are going to achieve that goal however
to achieve that goal however
to achieve that goal however look a bit more deeply and you will find
look a bit more deeply and you will find
look a bit more deeply and you will find that 13 of the 17 goals cannot be
that 13 of the 17 goals cannot be
that 13 of the 17 goals cannot be achieved unless there is a major
achieved unless there is a major
achieved unless there is a major shake-up of the tobacco industry
shake-up of the tobacco industry
shake-up of the tobacco industry personally my favorite goal is number 17
personally my favorite goal is number 17
personally my favorite goal is number 17 partnerships for the goals at present we
partnerships for the goals at present we
partnerships for the goals at present we have the entire global health sector
have the entire global health sector
have the entire global health sector doing everything it can to help the
doing everything it can to help the
doing everything it can to help the tidal wave of patient suffering as a
tidal wave of patient suffering as a
tidal wave of patient suffering as a result of tobacco but that said in the
result of tobacco but that said in the
result of tobacco but that said in the past year alone seven million people
past year alone seven million people
past year alone seven million people have died so clearly that is not enough
have died so clearly that is not enough
have died so clearly that is not enough we also have governments aligned on
we also have governments aligned on
we also have governments aligned on tobacco 180 of them busily trying to
tobacco 180 of them busily trying to
tobacco 180 of them busily trying to implement the provisions of the UN
implement the provisions of the UN
implement the provisions of the UN tobacco treaty but that too is not
tobacco treaty but that too is not
tobacco treaty but that too is not enough if the global finance sector
enough if the global finance sector
enough if the global finance sector continues to lend money to tobacco
continues to lend money to tobacco
continues to lend money to tobacco companies to invest in tobacco companies
companies to invest in tobacco companies
companies to invest in tobacco companies and to strive to profit from tobacco
and to strive to profit from tobacco
and to strive to profit from tobacco companies we are working against each
companies we are working against each
companies we are working against each other now if we are going to disrupt
other now if we are going to disrupt
other now if we are going to disrupt what doctors call the global tobacco
what doctors call the global tobacco
what doctors call the global tobacco epidemic we need every sector of society
epidemic we need every sector of society
epidemic we need every sector of society to stand side-by-side and be part of the
to stand side-by-side and be part of the
to stand side-by-side and be part of the solution so I call on finance leaders to
solution so I call on finance leaders to
solution so I call on finance leaders to implement a framework to deal with
implement a framework to deal with
implement a framework to deal with sensitive issues and I call on them to
sensitive issues and I call on them to
sensitive issues and I call on them to uphold global conventions but in
uphold global conventions but in
uphold global conventions but in addition there are business risks pure
addition there are business risks pure
addition there are business risks pure financial risks associated with being
financial risks associated with being
financial risks associated with being invested in the tobacco industry over
invested in the tobacco industry over
invested in the tobacco industry over the long term and I ask finance leaders
the long term and I ask finance leaders
the long term and I ask finance leaders to consider them the first risk is that
to consider them the first risk is that
to consider them the first risk is that fewer and fewer people will smoke as a
fewer and fewer people will smoke as a
fewer and fewer people will smoke as a result of increasing tobacco regulation
result of increasing tobacco regulation
result of increasing tobacco regulation when these warnings were put on
when these warnings were put on
when these warnings were put on cigarette packets in Canada the first
cigarette packets in Canada the first
cigarette packets in Canada the first response of smokers was to give them
response of smokers was to give them
response of smokers was to give them right back to the salespeople and say
right back to the salespeople and say
right back to the salespeople and say could you please just give me the ones
could you please just give me the ones
could you please just give me the ones that say they’ll kill me
regulation gets noticed regulation
regulation gets noticed regulation reduces consumption and we have 180
reduces consumption and we have 180
reduces consumption and we have 180 countries committed to more regulation
countries committed to more regulation
countries committed to more regulation let’s talk about litigation and the risk
let’s talk about litigation and the risk
let’s talk about litigation and the risk that presents at present it’s the
that presents at present it’s the
that presents at present it’s the business model of the tobacco industry
business model of the tobacco industry
business model of the tobacco industry that is being challenged currently the
that is being challenged currently the
that is being challenged currently the tobacco industry externalizes all of the
tobacco industry externalizes all of the
tobacco industry externalizes all of the health costs associated with tobacco
health costs associated with tobacco
health costs associated with tobacco governments pay communities pay you pay
governments pay communities pay you pay
governments pay communities pay you pay I pay the tobacco industry externalizes
I pay the tobacco industry externalizes
I pay the tobacco industry externalizes all those costs with an estimated one
all those costs with an estimated one
all those costs with an estimated one trillion US dollars per year yet they
trillion US dollars per year yet they
trillion US dollars per year yet they internalize and privatize the profits in
internalize and privatize the profits in
internalize and privatize the profits in 2015 in Quebec province the courts
2015 in Quebec province the courts
2015 in Quebec province the courts determined that the tobacco industry was
determined that the tobacco industry was
determined that the tobacco industry was indeed responsible for those health
indeed responsible for those health
indeed responsible for those health costs and ordered them to pay fifteen
costs and ordered them to pay fifteen
costs and ordered them to pay fifteen billion US dollars that case is under
billion US dollars that case is under
billion US dollars that case is under appeal but it begs the question why
appeal but it begs the question why
appeal but it begs the question why should any of us in any country be
should any of us in any country be
should any of us in any country be paying for the costs of the tobacco
paying for the costs of the tobacco
paying for the costs of the tobacco industry let’s move on to supply chain
industry let’s move on to supply chain
industry let’s move on to supply chain and the risk there it is not well known
and the risk there it is not well known
and the risk there it is not well known but the tobacco industry significantly
but the tobacco industry significantly
but the tobacco industry significantly relies on child labor in March this year
relies on child labor in March this year
relies on child labor in March this year the International Labor Organization
the International Labor Organization
the International Labor Organization issued a report which stated in tobacco
issued a report which stated in tobacco
issued a report which stated in tobacco growing communities child labor is
growing communities child labor is
growing communities child labor is rampant the US Department of Labor
rampant the US Department of Labor
rampant the US Department of Labor currently lists 16 countries that use
currently lists 16 countries that use
currently lists 16 countries that use children to produce tobacco leaf
children to produce tobacco leaf
children to produce tobacco leaf scrutiny of supply chains is
scrutiny of supply chains is
scrutiny of supply chains is intensifying and that cannot continue to
intensifying and that cannot continue to
intensifying and that cannot continue to escape public attention finally there is
escape public attention finally there is
escape public attention finally there is also reputation risk to consider for
also reputation risk to consider for
also reputation risk to consider for individuals and organizations that
individuals and organizations that
individuals and organizations that continue to maintain an affiliation with
continue to maintain an affiliation with
continue to maintain an affiliation with the tobacco industry
the tobacco industry
the tobacco industry in countless surveys the tobacco
in countless surveys the tobacco
in countless surveys the tobacco industry ranks as the world’s least
industry ranks as the world’s least
industry ranks as the world’s least reputable industry let’s just look at
reputable industry let’s just look at
reputable industry let’s just look at the impact on children globally every
the impact on children globally every
the impact on children globally every single day it is estimated that 100
single day it is estimated that 100
single day it is estimated that 100 thousand children start smoking that’s
thousand children start smoking that’s
thousand children start smoking that’s enough children to fit inside the
enough children to fit inside the
enough children to fit inside the Melbourne Cricket Ground and most of
Melbourne Cricket Ground and most of
Melbourne Cricket Ground and most of those children are from the poorest
those children are from the poorest
those children are from the poorest communities on earth here in Australia
communities on earth here in Australia
communities on earth here in Australia the average age that people start
the average age that people start
the average age that people start smoking is 16 years and 2 months they
smoking is 16 years and 2 months they
smoking is 16 years and 2 months they look pretty young to me but the worst
look pretty young to me but the worst
look pretty young to me but the worst thing here is that while we don’t have
thing here is that while we don’t have
thing here is that while we don’t have data from every country on earth we
data from every country on earth we
data from every country on earth we believe that is the oldest age
believe that is the oldest age
believe that is the oldest age everywhere else is younger now for the
everywhere else is younger now for the
everywhere else is younger now for the good news things that are changing the
good news things that are changing the
good news things that are changing the finance sector is coming to the party
finance sector is coming to the party
finance sector is coming to the party after around 2000 meetings with finance
after around 2000 meetings with finance
after around 2000 meetings with finance leaders primarily in the cafe’s of
leaders primarily in the cafe’s of
leaders primarily in the cafe’s of Melbourne and Sydney and London and
Melbourne and Sydney and London and
Melbourne and Sydney and London and Paris in New York and all across the
Paris in New York and all across the
Paris in New York and all across the globe momentum moving away from
globe momentum moving away from
globe momentum moving away from investment in the tobacco industry is
investment in the tobacco industry is
investment in the tobacco industry is starting to snowball finance leaders are
starting to snowball finance leaders are
starting to snowball finance leaders are alarmed when they’re presented with the
alarmed when they’re presented with the
alarmed when they’re presented with the facts and overwhelmingly they want to be
facts and overwhelmingly they want to be
facts and overwhelmingly they want to be part of the solution here in Australia
part of the solution here in Australia
part of the solution here in Australia we now have ten million six hundred and
we now have ten million six hundred and
we now have ten million six hundred and thirty six thousand one hundred and one
thirty six thousand one hundred and one
thirty six thousand one hundred and one superannuation accounts that are tobacco
superannuation accounts that are tobacco
superannuation accounts that are tobacco free that one is mine by the way
there is still a lot of work to be done
there is still a lot of work to be done but I’ve watched the conversation go
but I’ve watched the conversation go
but I’ve watched the conversation go from should we go to backhoe free – why
from should we go to backhoe free – why
from should we go to backhoe free – why haven’t we done it yet in the past year
haven’t we done it yet in the past year
haven’t we done it yet in the past year alone major tobacco free moves have been
alone major tobacco free moves have been
alone major tobacco free moves have been made by leading financial organizations
made by leading financial organizations
made by leading financial organizations in eight different countries in
in eight different countries in
in eight different countries in Australia New Zealand the Netherlands
Australia New Zealand the Netherlands
Australia New Zealand the Netherlands Sweden Denmark France Ireland and the
Sweden Denmark France Ireland and the
Sweden Denmark France Ireland and the USA by sovereign wealth funds fund
USA by sovereign wealth funds fund
USA by sovereign wealth funds fund managers pension funds banks insurers
managers pension funds banks insurers
managers pension funds banks insurers and reinsurers since tobacco free
and reinsurers since tobacco free
and reinsurers since tobacco free portfolios began more than six billion
portfolios began more than six billion
portfolios began more than six billion dollars has been redirected away from
dollars has been redirected away from
dollars has been redirected away from investment in the tobacco industry the
investment in the tobacco industry the
investment in the tobacco industry the case study is well and truly proven when
case study is well and truly proven when
case study is well and truly proven when making the tobacco free announcement in
making the tobacco free announcement in
making the tobacco free announcement in March this year the CEO of a and P
March this year the CEO of a and P
March this year the CEO of a and P capital said we are not prepared to
capital said we are not prepared to
capital said we are not prepared to deliver investment returns at any cost
deliver investment returns at any cost
deliver investment returns at any cost to society and that is a question we
to society and that is a question we
to society and that is a question we need to ask ourselves is there no
need to ask ourselves is there no
need to ask ourselves is there no baseline standard below which we will
baseline standard below which we will
baseline standard below which we will not sink to make profit along the way
not sink to make profit along the way
not sink to make profit along the way I’ve had a lot of help and incredible
I’ve had a lot of help and incredible
I’ve had a lot of help and incredible support now if you are trying to do
support now if you are trying to do
support now if you are trying to do something I highly recommend that you
something I highly recommend that you
something I highly recommend that you have a princess on your team Her Royal
have a princess on your team Her Royal
have a princess on your team Her Royal Highness Princess Dina murud is the
Highness Princess Dina murud is the
Highness Princess Dina murud is the global ambassador for this work we also
global ambassador for this work we also
global ambassador for this work we also have a lord a knight a former premier a
have a lord a knight a former premier a
have a lord a knight a former premier a former Federal Minister and a stack of
former Federal Minister and a stack of
former Federal Minister and a stack of CEOs but the capacity to change things
CEOs but the capacity to change things
CEOs but the capacity to change things does not rest exclusively with these
does not rest exclusively with these
does not rest exclusively with these highly influential people the power to
highly influential people the power to
highly influential people the power to do that is with all of us everyone here
do that is with all of us everyone here
do that is with all of us everyone here can be part of the solution in fact
can be part of the solution in fact
can be part of the solution in fact everyone here must be part of the
everyone here must be part of the
everyone here must be part of the solution most people in this room owned
solution most people in this room owned
solution most people in this room owned companies via their superannuation funds
companies via their superannuation funds
companies via their superannuation funds their banks and their insurers and it is
their banks and their insurers and it is
their banks and their insurers and it is time for us to ask them are they
time for us to ask them are they
time for us to ask them are they investing our money in companies that
investing our money in companies that
investing our money in companies that make products that kill 7 million people
make products that kill 7 million people
make products that kill 7 million people every year it’s your money it’s my money
every year it’s your money it’s my money
every year it’s your money it’s my money it’s our money and that is a very
it’s our money and that is a very
it’s our money and that is a very reasonable question it’s pretty cramped
reasonable question it’s pretty cramped
reasonable question it’s pretty cramped up here with 7 million people beside me
up here with 7 million people beside me
up here with 7 million people beside me today
today
today but if we don’t act now and act together
but if we don’t act now and act together
but if we don’t act now and act together we’ll need to make way for 1 billion
we’ll need to make way for 1 billion
we’ll need to make way for 1 billion people before the end of this century
people before the end of this century
people before the end of this century and this is a very big stage but there
and this is a very big stage but there
and this is a very big stage but there is no more room thank you
is no more room thank you
is no more room thank you [Applause]
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