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How to destigmatise mental health | Alex Gogarty | TEDxTrinityCollegeDublin


so today I’m gonna tell you how in my

so today I’m gonna tell you how in my but the majority this talk is actually

but the majority this talk is actually

but the majority this talk is actually me showing you how did you just stop and

me showing you how did you just stop and

me showing you how did you just stop and stigma in this regard is is cyclical

stigma in this regard is is cyclical

stigma in this regard is is cyclical those that haven’t experienced not tell

those that haven’t experienced not tell

those that haven’t experienced not tell difficulties or in the dark as to what

difficulties or in the dark as to what

difficulties or in the dark as to what it actually entails and as such they

it actually entails and as such they

it actually entails and as such they might not understand or even fear us

might not understand or even fear us

might not understand or even fear us whereas those that have find it

whereas those that have find it

whereas those that have find it difficult to talk out about their

difficult to talk out about their

difficult to talk out about their feelings because they don’t think

feelings because they don’t think

feelings because they don’t think they’ll be understood it’s my belief

they’ll be understood it’s my belief

they’ll be understood it’s my belief that’s the best way we can combat this

that’s the best way we can combat this

that’s the best way we can combat this is for those to have experienced massive

is for those to have experienced massive

is for those to have experienced massive difficulties to step forward and share

difficulties to step forward and share

difficulties to step forward and share their experiences and normalize

their experiences and normalize

their experiences and normalize something that unfortunate for a lot of

something that unfortunate for a lot of

something that unfortunate for a lot of people is deemed to be uncomfortable or

people is deemed to be uncomfortable or

people is deemed to be uncomfortable or even shameful to talk of it so what I’m

even shameful to talk of it so what I’m

even shameful to talk of it so what I’m gonna do today is share with you my own

gonna do today is share with you my own

gonna do today is share with you my own mental health experience hopefully won’t

mental health experience hopefully won’t

mental health experience hopefully won’t be too depressing

be too depressing

be too depressing no pun intended it’s the first of

no pun intended it’s the first of

no pun intended it’s the first of several bad jokes to hear of the next

several bad jokes to hear of the next

several bad jokes to hear of the next time and I’m gonna finish to some

time and I’m gonna finish to some

time and I’m gonna finish to some advices on so just a bit by me and my

advices on so just a bit by me and my

advices on so just a bit by me and my name is Alex I’m 22 and I’m from Dublin

name is Alex I’m 22 and I’m from Dublin

name is Alex I’m 22 and I’m from Dublin I’m a finding a student of English here

I’m a finding a student of English here

I’m a finding a student of English here Trinity and I’ve been a suffer

Trinity and I’ve been a suffer

Trinity and I’ve been a suffer depression of size about 15 years old

depression of size about 15 years old

depression of size about 15 years old now this would probably call Muslim

now this would probably call Muslim

now this would probably call Muslim you’re surprised two people that know me

you’re surprised two people that know me

you’re surprised two people that know me personally because in general I’m the

personally because in general I’m the

personally because in general I’m the very positive and echoing person and

very positive and echoing person and

very positive and echoing person and depressions are something that I’ve ever

depressions are something that I’ve ever

depressions are something that I’ve ever really discussed before it and until I

really discussed before it and until I

really discussed before it and until I noticed I was doing this talk there were

noticed I was doing this talk there were

noticed I was doing this talk there were maybe five people in my personal life

maybe five people in my personal life

maybe five people in my personal life that knew and my own siblings my two

that knew and my own siblings my two

that knew and my own siblings my two sisters didn’t know until I so I was

sisters didn’t know until I so I was

sisters didn’t know until I so I was very 2017 with how you’d have to know I

very 2017 with how you’d have to know I

very 2017 with how you’d have to know I set up a whatsapp group for the three of

set up a whatsapp group for the three of

set up a whatsapp group for the three of us and told them throughthe us for them

us and told them throughthe us for them

us and told them throughthe us for them I was considering committing fully to

I was considering committing fully to

I was considering committing fully to the digital age and sending them a

the digital age and sending them a

the digital age and sending them a snapshot was like the dog filter and

snapshot was like the dog filter and

snapshot was like the dog filter and some high-pitched voice penny like hey

some high-pitched voice penny like hey

some high-pitched voice penny like hey I’m also from the present but I didn’t

I’m also from the present but I didn’t

I’m also from the present but I didn’t do that because I don’t have snapchat

do that because I don’t have snapchat

do that because I don’t have snapchat and I’ve been a terrible idea

and I’ve been a terrible idea

and I’ve been a terrible idea so I say it since about 15 because now

so I say it since about 15 because now

so I say it since about 15 because now in retrospect I can recognize that what

in retrospect I can recognize that what

in retrospect I can recognize that what I was going through was depression but

I was going through was depression but

I was going through was depression but at the time that wasn’t the case because

at the time that wasn’t the case because

at the time that wasn’t the case because the recurring theme of my own experience

the recurring theme of my own experience

the recurring theme of my own experience is one of denial I refused to accept

is one of denial I refused to accept

is one of denial I refused to accept that there’s no larger tax nation for

that there’s no larger tax nation for

that there’s no larger tax nation for the way I was feeling that there was no

the way I was feeling that there was no

the way I was feeling that there was no rationale behind us and at each stage of

rationale behind us and at each stage of

rationale behind us and at each stage of my life I which I find some reasoning

my life I which I find some reasoning

my life I which I find some reasoning that would explain the way that I was

that would explain the way that I was

that would explain the way that I was feeling so when I was about 15 going on

feeling so when I was about 15 going on

feeling so when I was about 15 going on sixteen in my transition in forty or

sixteen in my transition in forty or

sixteen in my transition in forty or school and I began experiencing

school and I began experiencing

school and I began experiencing experiencing these low moods and I

experiencing these low moods and I

experiencing these low moods and I became very withdrawn at home and I

became very withdrawn at home and I

became very withdrawn at home and I would spend a lot of time in my room

would spend a lot of time in my room

would spend a lot of time in my room just feeling very down and very poorly

just feeling very down and very poorly

just feeling very down and very poorly of myself and this wasn’t a constant

of myself and this wasn’t a constant

of myself and this wasn’t a constant thing but it happened often enough for

thing but it happened often enough for

thing but it happened often enough for me to stop and wonder you know why was I

me to stop and wonder you know why was I

me to stop and wonder you know why was I feeling this way and I thought about it

feeling this way and I thought about it

feeling this way and I thought about it and the conclusion I came to was that

and the conclusion I came to was that

and the conclusion I came to was that it’s because I was a teenager

it’s because I was a teenager

it’s because I was a teenager that’s why but I think that in itself

that’s why but I think that in itself

that’s why but I think that in itself somewhat contradictory because you know

somewhat contradictory because you know

somewhat contradictory because you know you’re supposed to realize you’re going

you’re supposed to realize you’re going

you’re supposed to realize you’re going through angst I don’t think you’re your

through angst I don’t think you’re your

through angst I don’t think you’re your typical teenager has a argument their

typical teenager has a argument their

typical teenager has a argument their parents or something then gets up to the

parents or something then gets up to the

parents or something then gets up to the room and is like I can’t wait to design

room and is like I can’t wait to design

room and is like I can’t wait to design spaces that were that doesn’t happen

spaces that were that doesn’t happen

spaces that were that doesn’t happen so that’s shouldn’t my first clue but I

so that’s shouldn’t my first clue but I

so that’s shouldn’t my first clue but I didn’t want to think about any further

didn’t want to think about any further

didn’t want to think about any further then I got to 50 and this became a lot

then I got to 50 and this became a lot

then I got to 50 and this became a lot more regular what was previously only

more regular what was previously only

more regular what was previously only happening once every couple of weeks

happening once every couple of weeks

happening once every couple of weeks when I happened maybe two or three times

when I happened maybe two or three times

when I happened maybe two or three times per week and this also coincided with

per week and this also coincided with

per week and this also coincided with when I first started drinking and going

when I first started drinking and going

when I first started drinking and going out to time with my friends and often I

out to time with my friends and often I

out to time with my friends and often I would find you know coming home from an

would find you know coming home from an

would find you know coming home from an idea sure when I got home and in my room

idea sure when I got home and in my room

idea sure when I got home and in my room on my own I would find myself crying and

on my own I would find myself crying and

on my own I would find myself crying and I couldn’t explain why and as we all

I couldn’t explain why and as we all

I couldn’t explain why and as we all know alcohol is a depressant so the next

know alcohol is a depressant so the next

know alcohol is a depressant so the next morning I wake up and I think about at

morning I wake up and I think about at

morning I wake up and I think about at night I’d wonder he and I just assumed

night I’d wonder he and I just assumed

night I’d wonder he and I just assumed actually yeah it’s just the alcohol it’s

actually yeah it’s just the alcohol it’s

actually yeah it’s just the alcohol it’s the drink this make me feel this way but

the drink this make me feel this way but

the drink this make me feel this way but you know it’s it’s one it’s a Wednesday

you know it’s it’s one it’s a Wednesday

you know it’s it’s one it’s a Wednesday morning or Sunday nice and I was alone

morning or Sunday nice and I was alone

morning or Sunday nice and I was alone in my room and I was crying

in my room and I was crying

in my room and I was crying not having drank anything that’s when I

not having drank anything that’s when I

not having drank anything that’s when I should realize that you know there’s

should realize that you know there’s

should realize that you know there’s probably something else in play here but

probably something else in play here but

probably something else in play here but again I refused I didn’t want except

again I refused I didn’t want except

again I refused I didn’t want except this I didn’t want to think about him I

this I didn’t want to think about him I

this I didn’t want to think about him I didn’t want to be someone that had

didn’t want to be someone that had

didn’t want to be someone that had something that they couldn’t control and

something that they couldn’t control and

something that they couldn’t control and then I got to 60 now this involves in

then I got to 60 now this involves in

then I got to 60 now this involves in something that was pretty much an

something that was pretty much an

something that was pretty much an ever-present part of my life most days

ever-present part of my life most days

ever-present part of my life most days were struggle of you know not wanting to

were struggle of you know not wanting to

were struggle of you know not wanting to spend time on my own because I knew that

spend time on my own because I knew that

spend time on my own because I knew that these feelings would return and six

these feelings would return and six

these feelings would return and six years is a very stressful time for

years is a very stressful time for

years is a very stressful time for everyone ready because you know you’re

everyone ready because you know you’re

everyone ready because you know you’re sitting the leaving service and you know

sitting the leaving service and you know

sitting the leaving service and you know you’re you’re trying to get into college

you’re you’re trying to get into college

you’re you’re trying to get into college and that’s how I rationalized that then

and that’s how I rationalized that then

and that’s how I rationalized that then it was like this just 60 I’m gonna get

it was like this just 60 I’m gonna get

it was like this just 60 I’m gonna get through it but it became very inhibiting

through it but it became very inhibiting

through it but it became very inhibiting in my life my home life was very

in my life my home life was very

in my life my home life was very difficult because I was very poor

difficult because I was very poor

difficult because I was very poor communicating with my parents and school

communicating with my parents and school

communicating with my parents and school is a struggle because I had to pretend

is a struggle because I had to pretend

is a struggle because I had to pretend to be this positive and a negative

to be this positive and a negative

to be this positive and a negative person whereas no one actually knew to

person whereas no one actually knew to

person whereas no one actually knew to distress that I was under the pain that

distress that I was under the pain that

distress that I was under the pain that I was going through and the closest I

I was going through and the closest I

I was going through and the closest I came to actually telling some that this

came to actually telling some that this

came to actually telling some that this wasn’t six theory it was during an those

wasn’t six theory it was during an those

wasn’t six theory it was during an those routine meeting with my guidance

routine meeting with my guidance

routine meeting with my guidance counselor you know you have those

counselor you know you have those

counselor you know you have those meetings on your six tier where you fill

meetings on your six tier where you fill

meetings on your six tier where you fill out this test and do these you know

out this test and do these you know

out this test and do these you know answer this questionnaire and then this

answer this questionnaire and then this

answer this questionnaire and then this computer algorithm of somehow tells you

computer algorithm of somehow tells you

computer algorithm of somehow tells you it magically knows what career you’re

it magically knows what career you’re

it magically knows what career you’re gonna have in your older you know

gonna have in your older you know

gonna have in your older you know I think mine was like assistant

I think mine was like assistant

I think mine was like assistant librarian or something which is like so

librarian or something which is like so

librarian or something which is like so specific yet kind of disappointing but

specific yet kind of disappointing but

specific yet kind of disappointing but and anyway it was one of those meetings

and anyway it was one of those meetings

and anyway it was one of those meetings and there and we were talking about that

and there and we were talking about that

and there and we were talking about that and talking to a college and then the

and talking to a college and then the

and talking to a college and then the guidance can just completely and

guidance can just completely and

guidance can just completely and obviously he just asked me and how’s

obviously he just asked me and how’s

obviously he just asked me and how’s everything else with you and I was just

everything else with you and I was just

everything else with you and I was just feeling very vulnerable and kind of

feeling very vulnerable and kind of

feeling very vulnerable and kind of talking by surprise and I started crying

talking by surprise and I started crying

talking by surprise and I started crying and then as any good guidance counselor

and then as any good guidance counselor

and then as any good guidance counselor would recognize me she realized that it

would recognize me she realized that it

would recognize me she realized that it probably wasn’t the fact that she just

probably wasn’t the fact that she just

probably wasn’t the fact that she just told me I was gonna be an assistant

told me I was gonna be an assistant

told me I was gonna be an assistant librarian I was making her cry so she

librarian I was making her cry so she

librarian I was making her cry so she was like what she asked me what was

was like what she asked me what was

was like what she asked me what was wrong and I didn’t explain I said I’m

wrong and I didn’t explain I said I’m

wrong and I didn’t explain I said I’m just stressed it’s fine it’s just six

just stressed it’s fine it’s just six

just stressed it’s fine it’s just six through my left and I was that after him

through my left and I was that after him

through my left and I was that after him outside there was the first year in

outside there was the first year in

outside there was the first year in there twelve or thirteen year old boy

there twelve or thirteen year old boy

there twelve or thirteen year old boy and I waiting to go in and and you know

and I waiting to go in and and you know

and I waiting to go in and and you know when you’re in sixty you set something

when you’re in sixty you set something

when you’re in sixty you set something good examples on younger years you’re

good examples on younger years you’re

good examples on younger years you’re locked up too and you seem like other

locked up too and you seem like other

locked up too and you seem like other words then I remember isin first year

words then I remember isin first year

words then I remember isin first year even though they’re a few years older

even though they’re a few years older

even though they’re a few years older than you like six years might as well

than you like six years might as well

than you like six years might as well you know have pension plans and

you know have pension plans and

you know have pension plans and mortgages a whole different stratosphere

mortgages a whole different stratosphere

mortgages a whole different stratosphere and then obviously I came out and you

and then obviously I came out and you

and then obviously I came out and you know he probably heard me crying inside

know he probably heard me crying inside

know he probably heard me crying inside and like it was quite visibly upset and

and like it was quite visibly upset and

and like it was quite visibly upset and he looked at me in this with this kind

he looked at me in this with this kind

he looked at me in this with this kind of confusion and you know not really

of confusion and you know not really

of confusion and you know not really understanding how someone could be

understanding how someone could be

understanding how someone could be feeling like this and how they were

feeling like this and how they were

feeling like this and how they were showing this and in that moment I knew

showing this and in that moment I knew

showing this and in that moment I knew that I could never let anyone look at me

that I could never let anyone look at me

that I could never let anyone look at me that way again and it was a very crucial

that way again and it was a very crucial

that way again and it was a very crucial negatively crucial watershed moment for

negatively crucial watershed moment for

negatively crucial watershed moment for me because I decided that an area that I

me because I decided that an area that I

me because I decided that an area that I was not gonna turning about this this

was not gonna turning about this this

was not gonna turning about this this was something I was gonna have to do on

was something I was gonna have to do on

was something I was gonna have to do on my own

my own

my own whatever was I was gonna have to do it

whatever was I was gonna have to do it

whatever was I was gonna have to do it so and I got 360 I got a to Trinity and

so and I got 360 I got a to Trinity and

so and I got 360 I got a to Trinity and started first year starts English and

started first year starts English and

started first year starts English and then you know whereas previously every

then you know whereas previously every

then you know whereas previously every year I had some kind of explanation with

year I had some kind of explanation with

year I had some kind of explanation with the way I was feeling in first year

the way I was feeling in first year

the way I was feeling in first year there was no social exhibition because

there was no social exhibition because

there was no social exhibition because everything that could’ve been going well

everything that could’ve been going well

everything that could’ve been going well was I was in college I had a part-time

was I was in college I had a part-time

was I was in college I had a part-time job I was gonna have my friends lives in

job I was gonna have my friends lives in

job I was gonna have my friends lives in societies I was studying kind of and and

societies I was studying kind of and and

societies I was studying kind of and and so everything showed them in grades but

so everything showed them in grades but

so everything showed them in grades but still this feeling I had almost every

still this feeling I had almost every

still this feeling I had almost every single day of just desperate desperate

single day of just desperate desperate

single day of just desperate desperate sadness and thinking so poorly of myself

sadness and thinking so poorly of myself

sadness and thinking so poorly of myself and you know as well the fact that again

and you know as well the fact that again

and you know as well the fact that again I just you know it’s it’s difficult

I just you know it’s it’s difficult

I just you know it’s it’s difficult enough to mask the way you’re feeling

enough to mask the way you’re feeling

enough to mask the way you’re feeling when it’s that strong but not only that

when it’s that strong but not only that

when it’s that strong but not only that put on this facade everyday having

put on this facade everyday having

put on this facade everyday having someone so positive and friendly that

someone so positive and friendly that

someone so positive and friendly that gets all about that room and it was

gets all about that room and it was

gets all about that room and it was incredibly draining and you know college

incredibly draining and you know college

incredibly draining and you know college often came

often came

often came came a great sugar for me you know there

came a great sugar for me you know there

came a great sugar for me you know there were days when I come to the front

were days when I come to the front

were days when I come to the front entrance or Nassau Street entrance to

entrance or Nassau Street entrance to

entrance or Nassau Street entrance to Trinity and I would stand there and I

Trinity and I would stand there and I

Trinity and I would stand there and I know that you know there were six or

know that you know there were six or

know that you know there were six or seven errors I had me where I was gonna

seven errors I had me where I was gonna

seven errors I had me where I was gonna have to pretend to be this person and

have to pretend to be this person and

have to pretend to be this person and some days I couldn’t do it and I knew I

some days I couldn’t do it and I knew I

some days I couldn’t do it and I knew I couldn’t go home because someone at home

couldn’t go home because someone at home

couldn’t go home because someone at home might be like what are you home for

might be like what are you home for

might be like what are you home for college I couldn’t go into college so

college I couldn’t go into college so

college I couldn’t go into college so there are certain days when I just go to

there are certain days when I just go to

there are certain days when I just go to Stephen’s Green I just sit there for

Stephen’s Green I just sit there for

Stephen’s Green I just sit there for errors or I go on a walk and I just

errors or I go on a walk and I just

errors or I go on a walk and I just terrified that someone seen anybody like

terrified that someone seen anybody like

terrified that someone seen anybody like what are you doing why so says on the

what are you doing why so says on the

what are you doing why so says on the days when I did manage to get through us

days when I did manage to get through us

days when I did manage to get through us I remember one particular time was in

I remember one particular time was in

I remember one particular time was in first and second it’s the first or

first and second it’s the first or

first and second it’s the first or second year I was just so drained and

second year I was just so drained and

second year I was just so drained and you have no energy when Santa this goes

you have no energy when Santa this goes

you have no energy when Santa this goes on and I got the bus home and boss

on and I got the bus home and boss

on and I got the bus home and boss Charlie to Diana my Cody cycle it’s a

Charlie to Diana my Cody cycle it’s a

Charlie to Diana my Cody cycle it’s a very small rose and I got off the bus

very small rose and I got off the bus

very small rose and I got off the bus and I just didn’t have the energy to

and I just didn’t have the energy to

and I just didn’t have the energy to walk the hundred meters to my door and I

walk the hundred meters to my door and I

walk the hundred meters to my door and I just sat there i sat there in my

just sat there i sat there in my

just sat there i sat there in my cul-de-sac and I couldn’t get up and I

cul-de-sac and I couldn’t get up and I

cul-de-sac and I couldn’t get up and I was terrified because I thought you know

was terrified because I thought you know

was terrified because I thought you know someone who’s gonna come in the corner

someone who’s gonna come in the corner

someone who’s gonna come in the corner any second a neighbor or family member

any second a neighbor or family member

any second a neighbor or family member and they see me and they asked what I

and they see me and they asked what I

and they see me and they asked what I was doing I just took everything that I

was doing I just took everything that I

was doing I just took everything that I had just turned up and walked 100 meters

had just turned up and walked 100 meters

had just turned up and walked 100 meters to my door and then go up and collapsed

to my door and then go up and collapsed

to my door and then go up and collapsed in my room and you know this this kind

in my room and you know this this kind

in my room and you know this this kind of thing doesn’t go unnoticed at home

of thing doesn’t go unnoticed at home

of thing doesn’t go unnoticed at home and what had previously been a very

and what had previously been a very

and what had previously been a very withdrawn side of myself when I was a

withdrawn side of myself when I was a

withdrawn side of myself when I was a teenager had evolved there – almost

teenager had evolved there – almost

teenager had evolved there – almost monosyllabic 30 I barely spoke at home

monosyllabic 30 I barely spoke at home

monosyllabic 30 I barely spoke at home sometimes I might end speak at all and

sometimes I might end speak at all and

sometimes I might end speak at all and of course this was was notice my parents

of course this was was notice my parents

of course this was was notice my parents were like you know it was obviously very

were like you know it was obviously very

were like you know it was obviously very difficult for them because I was no

difficult for them because I was no

difficult for them because I was no longer a teenager I wasn’t like nineteen

longer a teenager I wasn’t like nineteen

longer a teenager I wasn’t like nineteen years old and they’re running my house

years old and they’re running my house

years old and they’re running my house or feeling like this and in a way I took

or feeling like this and in a way I took

or feeling like this and in a way I took this kind of perverse pride of no

this kind of perverse pride of no

this kind of perverse pride of no knowing what I was going through this

knowing what I was going through this

knowing what I was going through this was kind of something that the everyone

was kind of something that the everyone

was kind of something that the everyone was oblivious to and in my head is

was oblivious to and in my head is

was oblivious to and in my head is something that I was just getting

something that I was just getting

something that I was just getting through and I so strong and independent

through and I so strong and independent

through and I so strong and independent so I was up to do it and but one of the

so I was up to do it and but one of the

so I was up to do it and but one of the times when my emotions did review

times when my emotions did review

times when my emotions did review themselves was when my mom was giving he

themselves was when my mom was giving he

themselves was when my mom was giving he left somewhere I think it’s to college

left somewhere I think it’s to college

left somewhere I think it’s to college and she was just driving us that she was

and she was just driving us that she was

and she was just driving us that she was sitting in the front seat beside her and

sitting in the front seat beside her and

sitting in the front seat beside her and and she asked me how I was and I was

and she asked me how I was and I was

and she asked me how I was and I was very upset and I started crying and I

very upset and I started crying and I

very upset and I started crying and I couldn’t tell her why I had no

couldn’t tell her why I had no

couldn’t tell her why I had no explanation and she said to me Alex do

explanation and she said to me Alex do

explanation and she said to me Alex do you think you might be depressed and the

you think you might be depressed and the

you think you might be depressed and the first thing that came to my head was yes

first thing that came to my head was yes

first thing that came to my head was yes absolutely and the first thing I said

absolutely and the first thing I said

absolutely and the first thing I said was no absolutely yes

was no absolutely yes

was no absolutely yes and it kind of reminds me of you know

and it kind of reminds me of you know

and it kind of reminds me of you know when you get to go ahead when you go get

when you get to go ahead when you go get

when you get to go ahead when you go get your haircuts and you know they ask you

your haircuts and you know they ask you

your haircuts and you know they ask you how it is and I’m out of hair by that is

how it is and I’m out of hair by that is

how it is and I’m out of hair by that is you always say it goes like I know for

you always say it goes like I know for

you always say it goes like I know for me like they could they could shave

me like they could they could shave

me like they could they could shave their initials inside my head nice to be

their initials inside my head nice to be

their initials inside my head nice to be like yeah great job and and that was my

like yeah great job and and that was my

like yeah great job and and that was my that was the cows case from Iman that’s

that was the cows case from Iman that’s

that was the cows case from Iman that’s a hoof that’s I no matter how bad it was

a hoof that’s I no matter how bad it was

a hoof that’s I no matter how bad it was I would always say everything’s fine

I would always say everything’s fine

I would always say everything’s fine everything’s fine and College became for

everything’s fine and College became for

everything’s fine and College became for me series of short term objectives it

me series of short term objectives it

me series of short term objectives it was getting through each day

was getting through each day

was getting through each day it was getting through each week if I

it was getting through each week if I

it was getting through each week if I had an essay deadline I was a couple of

had an essay deadline I was a couple of

had an essay deadline I was a couple of weeks away I couldn’t even think about

weeks away I couldn’t even think about

weeks away I couldn’t even think about until a few days before and I just

until a few days before and I just

until a few days before and I just managed to get by I scraped by first

managed to get by I scraped by first

managed to get by I scraped by first year in second year without anybody

year in second year without anybody

year in second year without anybody knowing and a watershed Mart and other

knowing and a watershed Mart and other

knowing and a watershed Mart and other next crucial moment for me was my

next crucial moment for me was my

next crucial moment for me was my Erasmus because I for the first master

Erasmus because I for the first master

Erasmus because I for the first master of third year I was going in as much to

of third year I was going in as much to

of third year I was going in as much to nice in France for the first semester

nice in France for the first semester

nice in France for the first semester and I view this as an opportunity and it

and I view this as an opportunity and it

and I view this as an opportunity and it was gonna be fresh stars it was a new

was gonna be fresh stars it was a new

was gonna be fresh stars it was a new environment and it was coming over new

environment and it was coming over new

environment and it was coming over new people make new friends and I thought

people make new friends and I thought

people make new friends and I thought that this whatever it was was going on

that this whatever it was was going on

that this whatever it was was going on my life I would come back here so I’d be

my life I would come back here so I’d be

my life I would come back here so I’d be a better person and you know for whoever

a better person and you know for whoever

a better person and you know for whoever strong I thought it was forever

strong I thought it was forever

strong I thought it was forever independent I thought it was you don’t

independent I thought it was you don’t

independent I thought it was you don’t realize the support systems Yellen place

realize the support systems Yellen place

realize the support systems Yellen place until they’re gone and you know

until they’re gone and you know

until they’re gone and you know something as simple I was having a meal

something as simple I was having a meal

something as simple I was having a meal cook for me every evening someone who

cook for me every evening someone who

cook for me every evening someone who cleans my clothes I live at home my mom

cleans my clothes I live at home my mom

cleans my clothes I live at home my mom still does this even at this age and

still does this even at this age and

still does this even at this age and having you know close friends that you

having you know close friends that you

having you know close friends that you can meet up with you know no pressure

can meet up with you know no pressure

can meet up with you know no pressure and obligations and just to talk to you

and obligations and just to talk to you

and obligations and just to talk to you I didn’t have any of those things and

I didn’t have any of those things and

I didn’t have any of those things and Erasmus well positive you know I met a

Erasmus well positive you know I met a

Erasmus well positive you know I met a lot of friends my French improved

lot of friends my French improved

lot of friends my French improved somewhat and it was also the lowest

somewhat and it was also the lowest

somewhat and it was also the lowest point so my passion about the flora you

point so my passion about the flora you

point so my passion about the flora you know the three most we kind of all know

know the three most we kind of all know

know the three most we kind of all know this the three most important things for

this the three most important things for

this the three most important things for men’s health and I’m just your well

men’s health and I’m just your well

men’s health and I’m just your well being in health in general are sleep

being in health in general are sleep

being in health in general are sleep tight and exercise and the best I’ve

tight and exercise and the best I’ve

tight and exercise and the best I’ve ever felt in my life the most crucial

ever felt in my life the most crucial

ever felt in my life the most crucial I’ve ever been is when I the healthy

I’ve ever been is when I the healthy

I’ve ever been is when I the healthy healthy balance of those three and on

healthy balance of those three and on

healthy balance of those three and on Erasmus it was anything but I rarely ace

Erasmus it was anything but I rarely ace

Erasmus it was anything but I rarely ace and I lost a lot of ways I’m pretty

and I lost a lot of ways I’m pretty

and I lost a lot of ways I’m pretty skinny guys that’s not an easy thing to

skinny guys that’s not an easy thing to

skinny guys that’s not an easy thing to do but I’m not sure I develop severe

do but I’m not sure I develop severe

do but I’m not sure I develop severe insomnia and you know days might go by

insomnia and you know days might go by

insomnia and you know days might go by where I wouldn’t leave my smaller room

where I wouldn’t leave my smaller room

where I wouldn’t leave my smaller room on campus and the only release I would

on campus and the only release I would

on campus and the only release I would get would be when people were going at

get would be when people were going at

get would be when people were going at home to the port we’re going in on

home to the port we’re going in on

home to the port we’re going in on others I think unfortunately I very much

others I think unfortunately I very much

others I think unfortunately I very much perpetuating the stereotype of the Irish

perpetuating the stereotype of the Irish

perpetuating the stereotype of the Irish drinking because they would just see me

drinking because they would just see me

drinking because they would just see me in the pub and then they weren’t seen

in the pub and then they weren’t seen

in the pub and then they weren’t seen again for a week

again for a week

again for a week and you know with all this happening of

and you know with all this happening of

and you know with all this happening of course I wasn’t going to cause I had

course I wasn’t going to cause I had

course I wasn’t going to cause I had exams and sanbir which I didn’t sis and

exams and sanbir which I didn’t sis and

exams and sanbir which I didn’t sis and tried to set them again in January and I

tried to set them again in January and I

tried to set them again in January and I wasn’t allowed and I returned home from

wasn’t allowed and I returned home from

wasn’t allowed and I returned home from four months in France with no credits

four months in France with no credits

four months in France with no credits and having essentially failed this mess

and having essentially failed this mess

and having essentially failed this mess room so of course I had to I have to

room so of course I had to I have to

room so of course I had to I have to meet my Erasmus coordinator and my tutor

meet my Erasmus coordinator and my tutor

meet my Erasmus coordinator and my tutor and we spoke about us and they were like

and we spoke about us and they were like

and we spoke about us and they were like head to the top one denies there’s this

head to the top one denies there’s this

head to the top one denies there’s this still this chance the slight chance I

still this chance the slight chance I

still this chance the slight chance I was gonna get through there anyone

was gonna get through there anyone

was gonna get through there anyone knowing I thought I’d be able to talk my

knowing I thought I’d be able to talk my

knowing I thought I’d be able to talk my way through it I was gonna blog through

way through it I was gonna blog through

way through it I was gonna blog through it and I could sit I could get make my

it and I could sit I could get make my

it and I could sit I could get make my credits up somewhere somehow else I put

credits up somewhere somehow else I put

credits up somewhere somehow else I put the question kept going back how did

the question kept going back how did

the question kept going back how did this happen why did you go to these

this happen why did you go to these

this happen why did you go to these classes why don’t you go these classes

classes why don’t you go these classes

classes why don’t you go these classes and then I was faced with a decision I

and then I was faced with a decision I

and then I was faced with a decision I could maintain this lie that I’d had for

could maintain this lie that I’d had for

could maintain this lie that I’d had for so long and not tell anybody about my

so long and not tell anybody about my

so long and not tell anybody about my condition and fail my degree or I could

condition and fail my degree or I could

condition and fail my degree or I could and kids who young and it had reached

and kids who young and it had reached

and kids who young and it had reached that stage where after five years of

that stage where after five years of

that stage where after five years of suffering what I had I was still

suffering what I had I was still

suffering what I had I was still considering not telling anyone even if

considering not telling anyone even if

considering not telling anyone even if lament expense of my education but I

lament expense of my education but I

lament expense of my education but I decided been in there I had to tell

decided been in there I had to tell

decided been in there I had to tell someone I’m so I was out at the age of

someone I’m so I was out at the age of

someone I’m so I was out at the age of twenty the first person I told was my

twenty the first person I told was my

twenty the first person I told was my houses coordinator I said well the

houses coordinator I said well the

houses coordinator I said well the reason I didn’t got his classes because

reason I didn’t got his classes because

reason I didn’t got his classes because I was suffering very important from the

I was suffering very important from the

I was suffering very important from the food oppression and he asked me how long

food oppression and he asked me how long

food oppression and he asked me how long had long people feeling like this and I

had long people feeling like this and I

had long people feeling like this and I said since 15 and of course he

said since 15 and of course he

said since 15 and of course he recognized this is a really serious

recognized this is a really serious

recognized this is a really serious problem that we had to address and in

problem that we had to address and in

problem that we had to address and in conjunction with himself from the tutor

conjunction with himself from the tutor

conjunction with himself from the tutor and some of the some counselors here in

and some of the some counselors here in

and some of the some counselors here in Trinity we you know decided how we’re

Trinity we you know decided how we’re

Trinity we you know decided how we’re gonna get around us and then we reached

gonna get around us and then we reached

gonna get around us and then we reached the point where of course I’d have to

the point where of course I’d have to

the point where of course I’d have to tell my parents because at this stage I

tell my parents because at this stage I

tell my parents because at this stage I still I’ve still letting on that I mean

still I’ve still letting on that I mean

still I’ve still letting on that I mean everything is fine and I came home that

everything is fine and I came home that

everything is fine and I came home that day and I start them down and we had a

day and I start them down and we had a

day and I start them down and we had a discussion and I told them and you know

discussion and I told them and you know

discussion and I told them and you know was very upsetting but my parents

was very upsetting but my parents

was very upsetting but my parents weren’t cutting understanding and

weren’t cutting understanding and

weren’t cutting understanding and supportive and my mom actually you know

supportive and my mom actually you know

supportive and my mom actually you know she’s a Matar sick woman but there’s one

she’s a Matar sick woman but there’s one

she’s a Matar sick woman but there’s one thing that annoys me most in the world

thing that annoys me most in the world

thing that annoys me most in the world is when she’s right and I’m wrong and

is when she’s right and I’m wrong and

is when she’s right and I’m wrong and that’s like 99% of the time so we had

that’s like 99% of the time so we had

that’s like 99% of the time so we had this this big chart I was very cathartic

this this big chart I was very cathartic

this this big chart I was very cathartic for both of us and then I was just

for both of us and then I was just

for both of us and then I was just waiting first then she just goes well I

waiting first then she just goes well I

waiting first then she just goes well I just knew it Alex I said it denied ever

just knew it Alex I said it denied ever

just knew it Alex I said it denied ever do it and I said you have to get that in

do it and I said you have to get that in

do it and I said you have to get that in there isn’t it

there isn’t it

there isn’t it but then so we had this shot and it was

but then so we had this shot and it was

but then so we had this shot and it was determined with counselors in in Trinity

determined with counselors in in Trinity

determined with counselors in in Trinity I’m with my tutor and my rozzers

I’m with my tutor and my rozzers

I’m with my tutor and my rozzers coordinators of course I wasn’t fit to

coordinators of course I wasn’t fit to

coordinators of course I wasn’t fit to continue my studies I had to address

continue my studies I had to address

continue my studies I had to address this problem and so we determined that I

this problem and so we determined that I

this problem and so we determined that I would go off course to the remainder of

would go off course to the remainder of

would go off course to the remainder of the year I was attending monetary

the year I was attending monetary

the year I was attending monetary therapy sessions

therapy sessions

therapy sessions and prior to returning to college I

and prior to returning to college I

and prior to returning to college I would undergo psychiatric evaluation the

would undergo psychiatric evaluation the

would undergo psychiatric evaluation the results of which will determine whether

results of which will determine whether

results of which will determine whether or not I be like to resume studies and

or not I be like to resume studies and

or not I be like to resume studies and and that was a very difficult period for

and that was a very difficult period for

and that was a very difficult period for me because I did go off books and I

me because I did go off books and I

me because I did go off books and I tended these these terrible therapist

tended these these terrible therapist

tended these these terrible therapist actions but it was very difficult you

actions but it was very difficult you

actions but it was very difficult you know after five years of having this

know after five years of having this

know after five years of having this method of getting through this thing and

method of getting through this thing and

method of getting through this thing and you’re not telling any better to

you’re not telling any better to

you’re not telling any better to suddenly going like this to having to

suddenly going like this to having to

suddenly going like this to having to talk every single week about it and

talk every single week about it and

talk every single week about it and verbalize something that previously I

verbalize something that previously I

verbalize something that previously I just internalized but it was incredibly

just internalized but it was incredibly

just internalized but it was incredibly helpful for me and and and one of the my

helpful for me and and and one of the my

helpful for me and and and one of the my greatest issues was with the how poorly

greatest issues was with the how poorly

greatest issues was with the how poorly I was preparing at home how bad I was

I was preparing at home how bad I was

I was preparing at home how bad I was communicating my parents this huge thing

communicating my parents this huge thing

communicating my parents this huge thing came in my head of you know if this is

came in my head of you know if this is

came in my head of you know if this is how I am with people that rerd me if

how I am with people that rerd me if

how I am with people that rerd me if this is you know the person that I think

this is you know the person that I think

this is you know the person that I think I really am how can I ever expect to

I really am how can I ever expect to

I really am how can I ever expect to have a family of my own how can I ever

have a family of my own how can I ever

have a family of my own how can I ever expect one day get married and have

expect one day get married and have

expect one day get married and have children I can barely look after myself

children I can barely look after myself

children I can barely look after myself and I know you’re probably thinking you

and I know you’re probably thinking you

and I know you’re probably thinking you know 19’s variants who think about

know 19’s variants who think about

know 19’s variants who think about having kids but it’s also very young so

having kids but it’s also very young so

having kids but it’s also very young so we completely rooting them out of your

we completely rooting them out of your

we completely rooting them out of your life entirely and a lot of people

life entirely and a lot of people

life entirely and a lot of people visualize depression is this kind of

visualize depression is this kind of

visualize depression is this kind of black dog this thing that follows you

black dog this thing that follows you

black dog this thing that follows you around but for me it wasn’t this

around but for me it wasn’t this

around but for me it wasn’t this separate entity was just a different

separate entity was just a different

separate entity was just a different side to myself the one that I thought

side to myself the one that I thought

side to myself the one that I thought was was real but no one else knew and

was was real but no one else knew and

was was real but no one else knew and the therapy made me realized that wasn’t

the therapy made me realized that wasn’t

the therapy made me realized that wasn’t the case and this wasn’t this wasn’t

the case and this wasn’t this wasn’t

the case and this wasn’t this wasn’t something I struggled with on my own and

something I struggled with on my own and

something I struggled with on my own and however helpful therapy was which was on

however helpful therapy was which was on

however helpful therapy was which was on the time out of college was cliched

the time out of college was cliched

the time out of college was cliched isn’t saying it’s the most helpful thing

isn’t saying it’s the most helpful thing

isn’t saying it’s the most helpful thing to me was the fact that I wasn’t doing

to me was the fact that I wasn’t doing

to me was the fact that I wasn’t doing on my own anymore that people knew that

on my own anymore that people knew that

on my own anymore that people knew that I was what I was going through and I was

I was what I was going through and I was

I was what I was going through and I was made aware of me that this was something

made aware of me that this was something

made aware of me that this was something that I was completely unique in

that I was completely unique in

that I was completely unique in experiencing and I wasn’t something I’d

experiencing and I wasn’t something I’d

experiencing and I wasn’t something I’d be saved she was the rest of my life and

be saved she was the rest of my life and

be saved she was the rest of my life and most important it wasn’t who I was so

most important it wasn’t who I was so

most important it wasn’t who I was so calm September I managed to pass the

calm September I managed to pass the

calm September I managed to pass the psychiatric evaluation got through my

psychiatric evaluation got through my

psychiatric evaluation got through my third year I know I’m a month away from

third year I know I’m a month away from

third year I know I’m a month away from competing my for with you got on my

competing my for with you got on my

competing my for with you got on my degree and it’s at this point that I

degree and it’s at this point that I

degree and it’s at this point that I want to just include you know I’m not a

want to just include you know I’m not a

want to just include you know I’m not a mental health experts nor am i medical

mental health experts nor am i medical

mental health experts nor am i medical medical professional and so I once

medical professional and so I once

medical professional and so I once wanted to include and just a couple of

wanted to include and just a couple of

wanted to include and just a couple of links here and on this first is the TCC

links here and on this first is the TCC

links here and on this first is the TCC student counseling service or incredibly

student counseling service or incredibly

student counseling service or incredibly helpful for me they’re you professor and

helpful for me they’re you professor and

helpful for me they’re you professor and there is a great help scene unaware

there is a great help scene unaware

there is a great help scene unaware which is a nice charity that are

which is a nice charity that are

which is a nice charity that are incredibly well informed is very

incredibly well informed is very

incredibly well informed is very supportive what I’m gonna do this is the

supportive what I’m gonna do this is the

supportive what I’m gonna do this is the only interactive part of the talk I show

only interactive part of the talk I show

only interactive part of the talk I show you what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna ask

you what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna ask

you what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna ask every

every

every here to take to all these details get on

here to take to all these details get on

here to take to all these details get on your phone or pen and paper and the

your phone or pen and paper and the

your phone or pen and paper and the reason I say this is because it just

reason I say this is because it just

reason I say this is because it just might be the case that there’s someone

might be the case that there’s someone

might be the case that there’s someone here that would like to take these down

here that would like to take these down

here that would like to take these down but because of who they’re setting the

but because of who they’re setting the

but because of who they’re setting the size or what they my fear of people

size or what they my fear of people

size or what they my fear of people might think of them they’re not gonna do

might think of them they’re not gonna do

might think of them they’re not gonna do those and that ice exact attitude that

those and that ice exact attitude that

those and that ice exact attitude that we’re trying to change but to avoid that

we’re trying to change but to avoid that

we’re trying to change but to avoid that happening I’d rather everyone take this

happening I’d rather everyone take this

happening I’d rather everyone take this day and then just one person so if you

day and then just one person so if you

day and then just one person so if you can’t I will be like when those lectures

can’t I will be like when those lectures

can’t I will be like when those lectures I’ll go up the back and check that

I’ll go up the back and check that

I’ll go up the back and check that you’re all doing this I will did so

you’re all doing this I will did so

you’re all doing this I will did so let’s hear that rustling paper just just

let’s hear that rustling paper just just

let’s hear that rustling paper just just why you’re doing us and I say it’s that

why you’re doing us and I say it’s that

why you’re doing us and I say it’s that experience as much as anything cuz I

experience as much as anything cuz I

experience as much as anything cuz I remember I remember nights in first year

remember I remember nights in first year

remember I remember nights in first year in school and a teacher coming into one

in school and a teacher coming into one

in school and a teacher coming into one of our classes and making announcements

of our classes and making announcements

of our classes and making announcements that astronomy build-up starting up and

that astronomy build-up starting up and

that astronomy build-up starting up and you know first year at the time it seems

you know first year at the time it seems

you know first year at the time it seems the most important thing is like fitting

the most important thing is like fitting

the most important thing is like fitting in and trying to be cool and if there’s

in and trying to be cool and if there’s

in and trying to be cool and if there’s one thing that I knew to be true before

one thing that I knew to be true before

one thing that I knew to be true before I started second school was that space

I started second school was that space

I started second school was that space was cool

was cool

was cool everyone knows odd you know stars

everyone knows odd you know stars

everyone knows odd you know stars planets unreal so I was like yep sign me

planets unreal so I was like yep sign me

planets unreal so I was like yep sign me up so started second and eatos and then

up so started second and eatos and then

up so started second and eatos and then my friends sing beside me turns to me

my friends sing beside me turns to me

my friends sing beside me turns to me goes do you just take that saying and I

goes do you just take that saying and I

goes do you just take that saying and I said yeah he goes the guide to the side

said yeah he goes the guide to the side

said yeah he goes the guide to the side room he just put that thing and I said

room he just put that thing and I said

room he just put that thing and I said are we not supposed to take the turn and

are we not supposed to take the turn and

are we not supposed to take the turn and he said I remember this this day he said

he said I remember this this day he said

he said I remember this this day he said never do what you’re supposed to do and

never do what you’re supposed to do and

never do what you’re supposed to do and in that moment so much what I thought I

in that moment so much what I thought I

in that moment so much what I thought I knew that life was a real to be alive

knew that life was a real to be alive

knew that life was a real to be alive space isn’t cool I’ll never do what

space isn’t cool I’ll never do what

space isn’t cool I’ll never do what you’re supposed to do but it’s very

you’re supposed to do but it’s very

you’re supposed to do but it’s very steep learning curve now just before I

steep learning curve now just before I

steep learning curve now just before I conclude I had something of a dual dual

conclude I had something of a dual dual

conclude I had something of a dual dual register two objectives going into this

register two objectives going into this

register two objectives going into this talk the first was of course D

talk the first was of course D

talk the first was of course D stigmatized mental health and hopefully

stigmatized mental health and hopefully

stigmatized mental health and hopefully change the attitudes of those that

change the attitudes of those that

change the attitudes of those that haven’t gone through experience like I

haven’t gone through experience like I

haven’t gone through experience like I have and the second was to hopefully

have and the second was to hopefully

have and the second was to hopefully inspire others to talk more openly about

inspire others to talk more openly about

inspire others to talk more openly about their experiences and first isn’t

their experiences and first isn’t

their experiences and first isn’t something you can quantify and it’s not

something you can quantify and it’s not

something you can quantify and it’s not saying that’s gonna happen overnight I

saying that’s gonna happen overnight I

saying that’s gonna happen overnight I do believe you are taking the quick the

do believe you are taking the quick the

do believe you are taking the quick the right steps but there it still exists a

right steps but there it still exists a

right steps but there it still exists a significant a palpable stigma in this

significant a palpable stigma in this

significant a palpable stigma in this country how else were surrounding mental

country how else were surrounding mental

country how else were surrounding mental health the second is for those that have

health the second is for those that have

health the second is for those that have experienced depression to become more

experienced depression to become more

experienced depression to become more comfortable talking about it and I don’t

comfortable talking about it and I don’t

comfortable talking about it and I don’t mean in a public forum as big as says

mean in a public forum as big as says

mean in a public forum as big as says you know it’s a very difficult thing to

you know it’s a very difficult thing to

you know it’s a very difficult thing to do and I’m not gonna lie that there were

do and I’m not gonna lie that there were

do and I’m not gonna lie that there were times in the last couple of weeks where

times in the last couple of weeks where

times in the last couple of weeks where I came very close to pulling out of this

I came very close to pulling out of this

I came very close to pulling out of this talk because I was scared of what people

talk because I was scared of what people

talk because I was scared of what people were paying with my friends treat me

were paying with my friends treat me

were paying with my friends treat me differently and was this going to impact

differently and was this going to impact

differently and was this going to impact me getting a job in the future

me getting a job in the future

me getting a job in the future you know even even though you and I’m up

you know even even though you and I’m up

you know even even though you and I’m up here I’m kinda heights

here I’m kinda heights

here I’m kinda heights there’s this panic in my head this I

there’s this panic in my head this I

there’s this panic in my head this I have I just made a huge mistake

have I just made a huge mistake

have I just made a huge mistake thank you David but it’s the very fact

thank you David but it’s the very fact

thank you David but it’s the very fact that I would even feel that way or that

that I would even feel that way or that

that I would even feel that way or that anyone would feel similarly when

anyone would feel similarly when

anyone would feel similarly when thinking about discussing amounts are

thinking about discussing amounts are

thinking about discussing amounts are the experiences that’s just testament to

the experiences that’s just testament to

the experiences that’s just testament to how much we still need to change no I

how much we still need to change no I

how much we still need to change no I just got finished for the piece of

just got finished for the piece of

just got finished for the piece of advice and there’s three rules that

advice and there’s three rules that

advice and there’s three rules that ingrained in me for whatever reason by

ingrained in me for whatever reason by

ingrained in me for whatever reason by my mom she’s got a lot of mentions of

my mom she’s got a lot of mentions of

my mom she’s got a lot of mentions of this talk or the very positive things

this talk or the very positive things

this talk or the very positive things Montgomery and first year completely

Montgomery and first year completely

Montgomery and first year completely irrelevant

irrelevant

irrelevant I bought the third I think is something

I bought the third I think is something

I bought the third I think is something that we could all live by the first is

that we could all live by the first is

that we could all live by the first is to never ride a motorbike that’s just

to never ride a motorbike that’s just

to never ride a motorbike that’s just that’s a no in my eyes not even revonnah

that’s a no in my eyes not even revonnah

that’s a no in my eyes not even revonnah Verratti my wife but you know I’d like

Verratti my wife but you know I’d like

Verratti my wife but you know I’d like the option the second it’s an avid

the option the second it’s an avid

the option the second it’s an avid little girl walk home in our own and I

little girl walk home in our own and I

little girl walk home in our own and I nowadays you know the feminist to me is

nowadays you know the feminist to me is

nowadays you know the feminist to me is like is that sexist I don’t really don’t

like is that sexist I don’t really don’t

like is that sexist I don’t really don’t know but I saw this but the third and I

know but I saw this but the third and I

know but I saw this but the third and I think it’s the best advice that I’ve

think it’s the best advice that I’ve

think it’s the best advice that I’ve ever received is to always treat people

ever received is to always treat people

ever received is to always treat people with respect and a smile because you

with respect and a smile because you

with respect and a smile because you never know what’s going on behind closed

never know what’s going on behind closed

never know what’s going on behind closed doors and that goes not just for mental

doors and that goes not just for mental

doors and that goes not just for mental health but for anything because every

health but for anything because every

health but for anything because every single one of us at some stage in our

single one of us at some stage in our

single one of us at some stage in our lives is going through something about

lives is going through something about

lives is going through something about my manifest itself and you know a

my manifest itself and you know a

my manifest itself and you know a stranger being really difficult to deal

stranger being really difficult to deal

stranger being really difficult to deal with or Kobe when your closest friends

with or Kobe when your closest friends

with or Kobe when your closest friends you have no idea and I just know from

you have no idea and I just know from

you have no idea and I just know from experience you know on particularly bad

experience you know on particularly bad

experience you know on particularly bad days when I felt so down and the

days when I felt so down and the

days when I felt so down and the prologue is the worst person in the

prologue is the worst person in the

prologue is the worst person in the world and someone acknowledges you and

world and someone acknowledges you and

world and someone acknowledges you and gives you a genuine smile words can’t

gives you a genuine smile words can’t

gives you a genuine smile words can’t describe the peace that it gives you so

describe the peace that it gives you so

describe the peace that it gives you so maybe this talk equality signalized

maybe this talk equality signalized

maybe this talk equality signalized mental health any further hopefully will

mental health any further hopefully will

mental health any further hopefully will I do hope that a will instill confidence

I do hope that a will instill confidence

I do hope that a will instill confidence in others to talk about their own

in others to talk about their own

in others to talk about their own experiences but also like I don’t know

experiences but also like I don’t know

experiences but also like I don’t know what happened but at the very least if

what happened but at the very least if

what happened but at the very least if everyone here follows that third rule

everyone here follows that third rule

everyone here follows that third rule you will make a difference in someone’s

you will make a difference in someone’s

you will make a difference in someone’s life

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