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Securing A Sustainable Future In The Pacific | David Power | TEDxSydney


look at that amazing leatherback turtle

look at that amazing leatherback turtle I encountered that turtle on a beach in

I encountered that turtle on a beach in

I encountered that turtle on a beach in a remote part of the Solomon Islands

a remote part of the Solomon Islands

a remote part of the Solomon Islands earlier this year this kind of turtle

earlier this year this kind of turtle

earlier this year this kind of turtle can grow to 900 kilos in size and

can grow to 900 kilos in size and

can grow to 900 kilos in size and they’ll always return back to the same

they’ll always return back to the same

they’ll always return back to the same beach to lay their eggs throughout the

beach to lay their eggs throughout the

beach to lay their eggs throughout the year Turtles like this will swim great

year Turtles like this will swim great

year Turtles like this will swim great distances between many islands in the

distances between many islands in the

distances between many islands in the Pacific and while they’re swimming

Pacific and while they’re swimming

Pacific and while they’re swimming between those Islands they’re vulnerable

between those Islands they’re vulnerable

between those Islands they’re vulnerable to getting caught in fishing nets and as

to getting caught in fishing nets and as

to getting caught in fishing nets and as a fishery manager I’ve seen firsthand

a fishery manager I’ve seen firsthand

a fishery manager I’ve seen firsthand the impacts from illegal fishing

the impacts from illegal fishing

the impacts from illegal fishing overfishing and bycatch now that can be

overfishing and bycatch now that can be

overfishing and bycatch now that can be devastating but today I’m here to talk

devastating but today I’m here to talk

devastating but today I’m here to talk to you about what happens when nations

to you about what happens when nations

to you about what happens when nations work together how we can ensure that

work together how we can ensure that

work together how we can ensure that there is still plenty of marine life and

there is still plenty of marine life and

there is still plenty of marine life and fish in the sea for generations to come

fish in the sea for generations to come

fish in the sea for generations to come now achieving sustainability is

now achieving sustainability is

now achieving sustainability is something we aim for in many areas of

something we aim for in many areas of

something we aim for in many areas of life

life

life we strive for a balance between what we

we strive for a balance between what we

we strive for a balance between what we all value as a society and economic

all value as a society and economic

all value as a society and economic development and the environment that

development and the environment that

development and the environment that sustains us now with fishing that

sustains us now with fishing that

sustains us now with fishing that concept might seem simple we don’t want

concept might seem simple we don’t want

concept might seem simple we don’t want to catch too many fish now so there’s

to catch too many fish now so there’s

to catch too many fish now so there’s still plenty of fish available in the

still plenty of fish available in the

still plenty of fish available in the future but it is very complicated

future but it is very complicated

future but it is very complicated because there are so many different

because there are so many different

because there are so many different people perspectives and different

people perspectives and different

people perspectives and different interests for example on the one hand we

interests for example on the one hand we

interests for example on the one hand we have large-scale commercial fishing

have large-scale commercial fishing

have large-scale commercial fishing boats like these ones this boat will

boats like these ones this boat will

boats like these ones this boat will travel between many different islands in

travel between many different islands in

travel between many different islands in the Pacific region and in a single trip

the Pacific region and in a single trip

the Pacific region and in a single trip that boat can catch up to a thousand

that boat can catch up to a thousand

that boat can catch up to a thousand tons of fish but that boat is licensed

tons of fish but that boat is licensed

tons of fish but that boat is licensed to fish and it does pay access fees to

to fish and it does pay access fees to

to fish and it does pay access fees to the Pacific island states then on the

the Pacific island states then on the

the Pacific island states then on the other hand you have small-scale Fisher’s

other hand you have small-scale Fisher’s

other hand you have small-scale Fisher’s the traditional fishers who go out with

the traditional fishers who go out with

the traditional fishers who go out with their nets to catch fish to support and

their nets to catch fish to support and

their nets to catch fish to support and feed their

feed their

feed their families balancing all of these

families balancing all of these

families balancing all of these considerations is what fisheries

considerations is what fisheries

considerations is what fisheries management is all about

management is all about

management is all about however you look at it though the

however you look at it though the

however you look at it though the fisheries in the Pacific are critical

fisheries in the Pacific are critical

fisheries in the Pacific are critical for their future it provides revenue it

for their future it provides revenue it

for their future it provides revenue it provides jobs and it provides food for

provides jobs and it provides food for

provides jobs and it provides food for the Pacific island states all right so

the Pacific island states all right so

the Pacific island states all right so let’s take a moment who are we talking

let’s take a moment who are we talking

let’s take a moment who are we talking about in the Pacific Islands we’re

about in the Pacific Islands we’re

about in the Pacific Islands we’re talking about islands that are spread

talking about islands that are spread

talking about islands that are spread across a vast area from the east coast

across a vast area from the east coast

across a vast area from the east coast of Australia up north towards PNG Palau

of Australia up north towards PNG Palau

of Australia up north towards PNG Palau and across to the Cook Islands some of

and across to the Cook Islands some of

and across to the Cook Islands some of these countries are so small that you

these countries are so small that you

these countries are so small that you can’t even see their landmass on this

can’t even see their landmass on this

can’t even see their landmass on this map but what you can see are the area

map but what you can see are the area

map but what you can see are the area shaded in brown and in blue which is

shaded in brown and in blue which is

shaded in brown and in blue which is their area of waters that surrounds them

their area of waters that surrounds them

their area of waters that surrounds them it’s their exclusive economic zone which

it’s their exclusive economic zone which

it’s their exclusive economic zone which stretches out 200 nautical miles from

stretches out 200 nautical miles from

stretches out 200 nautical miles from their islands and they have the

their islands and they have the

their islands and they have the exclusive right to the fish and the

exclusive right to the fish and the

exclusive right to the fish and the resources in those waters so it’s

resources in those waters so it’s

resources in those waters so it’s absolutely critical that the fisheries

absolutely critical that the fisheries

absolutely critical that the fisheries management is sustainable now the key

management is sustainable now the key

management is sustainable now the key elements for the achieving

elements for the achieving

elements for the achieving sustainability and fisheries management

sustainability and fisheries management

sustainability and fisheries management are having effective data and monitoring

are having effective data and monitoring

are having effective data and monitoring controls so that you know what’s being

controls so that you know what’s being

controls so that you know what’s being caught and how much is being caught it’s

caught and how much is being caught it’s

caught and how much is being caught it’s also critical to have effective

also critical to have effective

also critical to have effective management regional management that

management regional management that

management regional management that applies across those whole areas and

applies across those whole areas and

applies across those whole areas and finally thirdly for sustainable

finally thirdly for sustainable

finally thirdly for sustainable management you need to have effective

management you need to have effective

management you need to have effective surveillance and monitoring so that you

surveillance and monitoring so that you

surveillance and monitoring so that you can identify illegal fishing boats and

can identify illegal fishing boats and

can identify illegal fishing boats and apprehend them but let’s start with the

apprehend them but let’s start with the

apprehend them but let’s start with the data so the four key species of tuna

data so the four key species of tuna

data so the four key species of tuna that occur in the Pacific Islands

that occur in the Pacific Islands

that occur in the Pacific Islands yellowfin tuna

yellowfin tuna

yellowfin tuna skipjack albacore and bigeye together

skipjack albacore and bigeye together

skipjack albacore and bigeye together the combined catch of these four species

the combined catch of these four species

the combined catch of these four species reaches a staggering two and a half

reaches a staggering two and a half

reaches a staggering two and a half million metric tons every year and you

million metric tons every year and you

million metric tons every year and you can see it’s been increasing steadily

can see it’s been increasing steadily

can see it’s been increasing steadily since over the last 50 years and in blue

since over the last 50 years and in blue

since over the last 50 years and in blue in the center you can see the component

in the center you can see the component

in the center you can see the component made up by skipjack tuna the most

made up by skipjack tuna the most

made up by skipjack tuna the most abundant of those species many of you

abundant of those species many of you

abundant of those species many of you would recognize skipped

would recognize skipped

would recognize skipped it’s what you get in your supermarkets

it’s what you get in your supermarkets

it’s what you get in your supermarkets in at inner tuna

in at inner tuna

in at inner tuna it’s an enormous source of protein for

it’s an enormous source of protein for

it’s an enormous source of protein for the whole world and you can buy these

the whole world and you can buy these

the whole world and you can buy these tins of tunas in just about every

tins of tunas in just about every

tins of tunas in just about every country around the world but with these

country around the world but with these

country around the world but with these tuna species there’s many elements to

tuna species there’s many elements to

tuna species there’s many elements to consider we need to ensure that we get

consider we need to ensure that we get

consider we need to ensure that we get all the fundamental management right so

all the fundamental management right so

all the fundamental management right so that the Pacific Islands can have the

that the Pacific Islands can have the

that the Pacific Islands can have the control of their resources and make sure

control of their resources and make sure

control of their resources and make sure that they protect them and eliminate any

that they protect them and eliminate any

that they protect them and eliminate any illegal fishing so the Pacific Islands

illegal fishing so the Pacific Islands

illegal fishing so the Pacific Islands have been taking a strong stand against

have been taking a strong stand against

have been taking a strong stand against illegal fishing illegal fishing is when

illegal fishing illegal fishing is when

illegal fishing illegal fishing is when boats fish without a license or it can

boats fish without a license or it can

boats fish without a license or it can be when they fish and break the rules so

be when they fish and break the rules so

be when they fish and break the rules so in the top left you can see a boat that

in the top left you can see a boat that

in the top left you can see a boat that has a license that’s being boarded to

has a license that’s being boarded to

has a license that’s being boarded to see if it’s following the rules as its

see if it’s following the rules as its

see if it’s following the rules as its fishing for tuna and on the bottom left

fishing for tuna and on the bottom left

fishing for tuna and on the bottom left you can see some of the smaller scale

you can see some of the smaller scale

you can see some of the smaller scale boats which have been illegally fishing

boats which have been illegally fishing

boats which have been illegally fishing for sea cucumbers baster mayor and giant

for sea cucumbers baster mayor and giant

for sea cucumbers baster mayor and giant clams like the ones you see on the right

clams like the ones you see on the right

clams like the ones you see on the right these giant clams can live for a hundred

these giant clams can live for a hundred

these giant clams can live for a hundred years and they were apprehended on a

years and they were apprehended on a

years and they were apprehended on a boat that was fishing illegally within

boat that was fishing illegally within

boat that was fishing illegally within Australian waters not so long ago so as

Australian waters not so long ago so as

Australian waters not so long ago so as you can see it’s absolutely critical

you can see it’s absolutely critical

you can see it’s absolutely critical that these boats are apprehended and

that these boats are apprehended and

that these boats are apprehended and also that we ensure that they follow the

also that we ensure that they follow the

also that we ensure that they follow the rules and the key to that is

rules and the key to that is

rules and the key to that is international cooperation where I work

international cooperation where I work

international cooperation where I work at the Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries

at the Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries

at the Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries agency we run a regional surveillance

agency we run a regional surveillance

agency we run a regional surveillance center and the regional surveillance

center and the regional surveillance

center and the regional surveillance centre includes staff and people from

centre includes staff and people from

centre includes staff and people from all our member countries in the Pacific

all our member countries in the Pacific

all our member countries in the Pacific region includes naval officers military

region includes naval officers military

region includes naval officers military personnel and Fisheries officers these

personnel and Fisheries officers these

personnel and Fisheries officers these are the people that are monitoring and

are the people that are monitoring and

are the people that are monitoring and tracking illegal fishing boats in the

tracking illegal fishing boats in the

tracking illegal fishing boats in the Pacific now every single boat that

Pacific now every single boat that

Pacific now every single boat that fishes in the Pacific for tuna has to

fishes in the Pacific for tuna has to

fishes in the Pacific for tuna has to have a satellite tracking device on the

have a satellite tracking device on the

have a satellite tracking device on the board and those satellite trackers

board and those satellite trackers

board and those satellite trackers transmit their location to our

transmit their location to our

transmit their location to our surveillance centre and so that’s what

surveillance centre and so that’s what

surveillance centre and so that’s what we can see on the screen and monitor to

we can see on the screen and monitor to

we can see on the screen and monitor to make sure they’re fishing with the

make sure they’re fishing with the

make sure they’re fishing with the appropriate licenses and they’re not

appropriate licenses and they’re not

appropriate licenses and they’re not fishing in areas they’re not allowed to

fishing in areas they’re not allowed to

fishing in areas they’re not allowed to be and this is what that looks like when

be and this is what that looks like when

be and this is what that looks like when we’re watching them on the screen

we’re watching them on the screen

we’re watching them on the screen all of those dots represent a boat

all of those dots represent a boat

all of those dots represent a boat that’s fishing for tuna in the Pacific

that’s fishing for tuna in the Pacific

that’s fishing for tuna in the Pacific Ocean

Ocean

Ocean moving around great distances for every

moving around great distances for every

moving around great distances for every boat we have a file that includes

boat we have a file that includes

boat we have a file that includes licensing details and any intelligence

licensing details and any intelligence

licensing details and any intelligence that the countries and people have

that the countries and people have

that the countries and people have gathered that allows them to prioritize

gathered that allows them to prioritize

gathered that allows them to prioritize the status of the boats to work out

the status of the boats to work out

the status of the boats to work out whether they’re fishing illegally or not

whether they’re fishing illegally or not

whether they’re fishing illegally or not all the boats marked in red are

all the boats marked in red are

all the boats marked in red are suspected of illegally fishing or have

suspected of illegally fishing or have

suspected of illegally fishing or have fished illegally in the past whereas all

fished illegally in the past whereas all

fished illegally in the past whereas all the boats in green are considered in

the boats in green are considered in

the boats in green are considered in good standing but not all the illegal

good standing but not all the illegal

good standing but not all the illegal fishing boats are going to voluntarily

fishing boats are going to voluntarily

fishing boats are going to voluntarily show us where they’re fishing so the key

show us where they’re fishing so the key

show us where they’re fishing so the key is also having effective surveillance

is also having effective surveillance

is also having effective surveillance using patrol boats and airplanes and

using patrol boats and airplanes and

using patrol boats and airplanes and also satellites even so the information

also satellites even so the information

also satellites even so the information that’s detected from these surveillance

that’s detected from these surveillance

that’s detected from these surveillance aircraft gets transmitted to the

aircraft gets transmitted to the

aircraft gets transmitted to the operations center where I work in the

operations center where I work in the

operations center where I work in the Solomon Islands we then handle that

Solomon Islands we then handle that

Solomon Islands we then handle that information and send that out to the

information and send that out to the

information and send that out to the member countries and then it’s up to the

member countries and then it’s up to the

member countries and then it’s up to the national governments to take action to

national governments to take action to

national governments to take action to send out boats to apprehend and

send out boats to apprehend and

send out boats to apprehend and prosecute any illegal fishermen so

prosecute any illegal fishermen so

prosecute any illegal fishermen so that’s how we’re handing the illegal

that’s how we’re handing the illegal

that’s how we’re handing the illegal fishing but there are still many

fishing but there are still many

fishing but there are still many challenges with the boats several

challenges with the boats several

challenges with the boats several thousand vessels fishing for tuna in the

thousand vessels fishing for tuna in the

thousand vessels fishing for tuna in the Pacific Ocean that have a licence for

Pacific Ocean that have a licence for

Pacific Ocean that have a licence for those vessels it’s critical that we get

those vessels it’s critical that we get

those vessels it’s critical that we get the management right between all 37

the management right between all 37

the management right between all 37 countries and we need collaboration

countries and we need collaboration

countries and we need collaboration between those countries that are fishing

between those countries that are fishing

between those countries that are fishing for tuna in the Pacific now that kind of

for tuna in the Pacific now that kind of

for tuna in the Pacific now that kind of collaboration is not easy it takes a lot

collaboration is not easy it takes a lot

collaboration is not easy it takes a lot of time and it requires a lot of

of time and it requires a lot of

of time and it requires a lot of patience to get the management rules in

patience to get the management rules in

patience to get the management rules in but the Pacific island states remember

but the Pacific island states remember

but the Pacific island states remember they owned the resources in their water

they owned the resources in their water

they owned the resources in their water and so they are taking strong action to

and so they are taking strong action to

and so they are taking strong action to ensure that effective management

ensure that effective management

ensure that effective management measures are in place and one of the

measures are in place and one of the

measures are in place and one of the best examples of that is the skipjack

best examples of that is the skipjack

best examples of that is the skipjack tuna fishery so this fishery includes

tuna fishery so this fishery includes

tuna fishery so this fishery includes some of the largest boats several

some of the largest boats several

some of the largest boats several hundred of them which fish across the

hundred of them which fish across the

hundred of them which fish across the Pacific and they encircle large schools

Pacific and they encircle large schools

Pacific and they encircle large schools of skipjack tuna within their nets

of skipjack tuna within their nets

of skipjack tuna within their nets so the Pacific Islands management

so the Pacific Islands management

so the Pacific Islands management measures working together they have

measures working together they have

measures working together they have capped

capped

capped the amount of fishing effort that can

the amount of fishing effort that can

the amount of fishing effort that can occur in this fishery then a share of

occur in this fishery then a share of

occur in this fishery then a share of that total sustainable cap is in

that total sustainable cap is in

that total sustainable cap is in allocated to each country they own that

allocated to each country they own that

allocated to each country they own that share they then sell that share that

share they then sell that share that

share they then sell that share that they own on to fishing companies and

they own on to fishing companies and

they own on to fishing companies and businesses that are gaining access to

businesses that are gaining access to

businesses that are gaining access to their waters that model ensures that

their waters that model ensures that

their waters that model ensures that they can’t fish more than the

they can’t fish more than the

they can’t fish more than the sustainable limit for skipjack tuna so

sustainable limit for skipjack tuna so

sustainable limit for skipjack tuna so in cases like this the management is

in cases like this the management is

in cases like this the management is working really well

working really well

working really well we are not catching too many skipjack

we are not catching too many skipjack

we are not catching too many skipjack tuna but there are still many challenges

tuna but there are still many challenges

tuna but there are still many challenges for example with bigeye tuna the in

for example with bigeye tuna the in

for example with bigeye tuna the in methods like this they are still

methods like this they are still

methods like this they are still catching too many small fish and that

catching too many small fish and that

catching too many small fish and that species of tuna is over fished there are

species of tuna is over fished there are

species of tuna is over fished there are also still challenges with bycatch so

also still challenges with bycatch so

also still challenges with bycatch so when you encircle a large school of fish

when you encircle a large school of fish

when you encircle a large school of fish in that net you might also catch other

in that net you might also catch other

in that net you might also catch other species and that could be things like

species and that could be things like

species and that could be things like Turtles or dolphins but there are rules

Turtles or dolphins but there are rules

Turtles or dolphins but there are rules in place to protect the bycatch and

in place to protect the bycatch and

in place to protect the bycatch and detective marine wildlife as well when

detective marine wildlife as well when

detective marine wildlife as well when they set the net there are rules on how

they set the net there are rules on how

they set the net there are rules on how they set to avoid by a catch there are

they set to avoid by a catch there are

they set to avoid by a catch there are also rules in place on what happens when

also rules in place on what happens when

also rules in place on what happens when they capture marine mammals like

they capture marine mammals like

they capture marine mammals like dolphins or Turtles to make sure they

dolphins or Turtles to make sure they

dolphins or Turtles to make sure they can be safely released and they can be

can be safely released and they can be

can be safely released and they can be if they fishing industry is responsible

if they fishing industry is responsible

if they fishing industry is responsible and releases them so one of the key

and releases them so one of the key

and releases them so one of the key elements though is to ensure you have

elements though is to ensure you have

elements though is to ensure you have confidence in the data so that we know

confidence in the data so that we know

confidence in the data so that we know what’s happening on board these boats

what’s happening on board these boats

what’s happening on board these boats and to do that there are over 800

and to do that there are over 800

and to do that there are over 800 fisheries observers employed in the

fisheries observers employed in the

fisheries observers employed in the Pacific region and they monitor all the

Pacific region and they monitor all the

Pacific region and they monitor all the catch to check that it’s being reported

catch to check that it’s being reported

catch to check that it’s being reported correctly and that we know what’s going

correctly and that we know what’s going

correctly and that we know what’s going on in these boats to also enhance the

on in these boats to also enhance the

on in these boats to also enhance the management and surveillance in in on

management and surveillance in in on

management and surveillance in in on these boats

these boats

these boats we’re also trialing camera systems that

we’re also trialing camera systems that

we’re also trialing camera systems that can also verify what’s caught and and

can also verify what’s caught and and

can also verify what’s caught and and check that it’s being reported correctly

check that it’s being reported correctly

check that it’s being reported correctly so the surveillance these observers

so the surveillance these observers

so the surveillance these observers includes every trip on a per same boat

includes every trip on a per same boat

includes every trip on a per same boat and on other methods not as much but

and on other methods not as much but

and on other methods not as much but we’re looking to enhance that

we’re looking to enhance that

we’re looking to enhance that independent monitoring so as you can see

independent monitoring so as you can see

independent monitoring so as you can see the Pacific nations working together are

the Pacific nations working together are

the Pacific nations working together are achieving an enormous amount

achieving an enormous amount

achieving an enormous amount but they also need your help as

but they also need your help as

but they also need your help as consumers you have enormous power to

consumers you have enormous power to

consumers you have enormous power to shape how industries grow and shape how

shape how industries grow and shape how

shape how industries grow and shape how industries develop you can make a choice

industries develop you can make a choice

industries develop you can make a choice when you go to the shops or the fish

when you go to the shops or the fish

when you go to the shops or the fish market you can choose to buy sustainable

market you can choose to buy sustainable

market you can choose to buy sustainable seafood products and there are many ways

seafood products and there are many ways

seafood products and there are many ways you can find out what is a sustainable

you can find out what is a sustainable

you can find out what is a sustainable seafood product you can look for

seafood product you can look for

seafood product you can look for eco-labels something like the Marine

eco-labels something like the Marine

eco-labels something like the Marine Stewardship Council x’ blue tick of

Stewardship Council x’ blue tick of

Stewardship Council x’ blue tick of approval or you can look up sustainable

approval or you can look up sustainable

approval or you can look up sustainable seafood guides on the internet there’s

seafood guides on the internet there’s

seafood guides on the internet there’s plenty there and the other thing you can

plenty there and the other thing you can

plenty there and the other thing you can do is look for local based seafood in

do is look for local based seafood in

do is look for local based seafood in Australia Australian fisheries are

Australia Australian fisheries are

Australia Australian fisheries are amongst the best managed in the world

amongst the best managed in the world

amongst the best managed in the world because we have high standards and we

because we have high standards and we

because we have high standards and we have good procedures in place to verify

have good procedures in place to verify

have good procedures in place to verify that the fishing industry is fishing

that the fishing industry is fishing

that the fishing industry is fishing responsibilities responsibly and in

responsibilities responsibly and in

responsibilities responsibly and in accordance with those standards but

accordance with those standards but

accordance with those standards but there’s something else you can do you

there’s something else you can do you

there’s something else you can do you can take a holiday in the Pacific

can take a holiday in the Pacific

can take a holiday in the Pacific Islands go exploring go to somewhere you

Islands go exploring go to somewhere you

Islands go exploring go to somewhere you haven’t been to before Kiera bus or go

haven’t been to before Kiera bus or go

haven’t been to before Kiera bus or go to Samoa Tonga or up to Micronesia these

to Samoa Tonga or up to Micronesia these

to Samoa Tonga or up to Micronesia these countries have amazing marine life so if

countries have amazing marine life so if

countries have amazing marine life so if you’re going there to spend time on the

you’re going there to spend time on the

you’re going there to spend time on the beach or to go snorkeling with some of

beach or to go snorkeling with some of

beach or to go snorkeling with some of this marine life you can experience it

this marine life you can experience it

this marine life you can experience it and you can create value for those

and you can create value for those

and you can create value for those environmental resources and you also

environmental resources and you also

environmental resources and you also create value for their conservation

create value for their conservation

create value for their conservation efforts so all of this matters so that

efforts so all of this matters so that

efforts so all of this matters so that we can get the balance right we are

we can get the balance right we are

we can get the balance right we are managing this fishery for everyone so

managing this fishery for everyone so

managing this fishery for everyone so that we can have food and opportunities

that we can have food and opportunities

that we can have food and opportunities in the Pacific Islands and critically so

in the Pacific Islands and critically so

in the Pacific Islands and critically so that we can ensure there are still

that we can ensure there are still

that we can ensure there are still plenty of fish and turtles left in the

plenty of fish and turtles left in the

plenty of fish and turtles left in the sea thank you

sea thank you

sea thank you [Applause]

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