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Small Business Tips – My interview on The Chris Cerrone Show with @bluegeno


hey guys it’s mike McHale it’s your

hey guys it’s mike McHale it’s your author of the toilet paper entrepreneur

author of the toilet paper entrepreneur

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I have

I have let’s get into it right when I said

let’s get into it right when I said

let’s get into it right when I said let’s get into it I literally saw

let’s get into it I literally saw

let’s get into it I literally saw there’s two seconds left of the song I

there’s two seconds left of the song I

there’s two seconds left of the song I just had to let it play out now let’s

just had to let it play out now let’s

just had to let it play out now let’s get into it how do you start a business

get into it how do you start a business

get into it how do you start a business and do it right what if you don’t have

and do it right what if you don’t have

and do it right what if you don’t have enough money do you still even try how

enough money do you still even try how

enough money do you still even try how do you get your company to stand out in

do you get your company to stand out in

do you get your company to stand out in a competitive market now I can go on and

a competitive market now I can go on and

a competitive market now I can go on and on with this line of questioning but

on with this line of questioning but

on with this line of questioning but instead I’d rather have a great guest on

instead I’d rather have a great guest on

instead I’d rather have a great guest on talking about these things so when

talking about these things so when

talking about these things so when you’re working out driving in your car

you’re working out driving in your car

you’re working out driving in your car doing the dishes or whatever you do

doing the dishes or whatever you do

doing the dishes or whatever you do while listening to this podcast you get

while listening to this podcast you get

while listening to this podcast you get the information you need to fill in that

the information you need to fill in that

the information you need to fill in that missing piece that really has probably

missing piece that really has probably

missing piece that really has probably been bugging you for a while well today

been bugging you for a while well today

been bugging you for a while well today is no exception and I have just the

is no exception and I have just the

is no exception and I have just the perfect guest for you at 19 he built and

perfect guest for you at 19 he built and

perfect guest for you at 19 he built and sold a biotech company and that 22 was a

sold a biotech company and that 22 was a

sold a biotech company and that 22 was a venture capitalist helping raise between

venture capitalist helping raise between

venture capitalist helping raise between 500,000 and 15 million as an

500,000 and 15 million as an

500,000 and 15 million as an entrepreneur expert he’s been featured

entrepreneur expert he’s been featured

entrepreneur expert he’s been featured in Forbes The Wall Street Journal the

in Forbes The Wall Street Journal the

in Forbes The Wall Street Journal the New York Times Mashable in so many other

New York Times Mashable in so many other

New York Times Mashable in so many other major media outlets currently he runs

major media outlets currently he runs

major media outlets currently he runs one of the world’s most popular websites

one of the world’s most popular websites

one of the world’s most popular websites for entrepreneurs that despite the fact

for entrepreneurs that despite the fact

for entrepreneurs that despite the fact has more celebrity authors than one can

has more celebrity authors than one can

has more celebrity authors than one can count he has over 70,000 helpful

count he has over 70,000 helpful

count he has over 70,000 helpful articles from buying a business finance

articles from buying a business finance

articles from buying a business finance sales productivity even work-life

sales productivity even work-life

sales productivity even work-life balance he is a salsa dancer baseball

balance he is a salsa dancer baseball

balance he is a salsa dancer baseball fan lifehacker an avid Vespa writer Evan

fan lifehacker an avid Vespa writer Evan

fan lifehacker an avid Vespa writer Evan Carmichael how are you I’m great thanks

Carmichael how are you I’m great thanks

Carmichael how are you I’m great thanks for the great intro there Chris I get

for the great intro there Chris I get

for the great intro there Chris I get that a lot and I really try hard because

that a lot and I really try hard because

that a lot and I really try hard because I value every single one of my guests do

I value every single one of my guests do

I value every single one of my guests do it doing this show and I really want to

it doing this show and I really want to

it doing this show and I really want to give them the the intro they deserve you

give them the the intro they deserve you

give them the the intro they deserve you know I don’t want to just say hey Evan

know I don’t want to just say hey Evan

know I don’t want to just say hey Evan why don’t you you know tell not to knock

why don’t you you know tell not to knock

why don’t you you know tell not to knock anybody but i want to say hey evan why

anybody but i want to say hey evan why

anybody but i want to say hey evan why don’t you just tell us about yourself I

don’t you just tell us about yourself I

don’t you just tell us about yourself I like it man i think the why everybody

like it man i think the why everybody

like it man i think the why everybody listens to the chris’s podcast here you

listens to the chris’s podcast here you

listens to the chris’s podcast here you got the energy flow I what you need it i

got the energy flow I what you need it i

got the energy flow I what you need it i mean if if you and i SAT and talked here

mean if if you and i SAT and talked here

mean if if you and i SAT and talked here and we just kind of sounded like this

and we just kind of sounded like this

and we just kind of sounded like this and yeah I’m sure

and yeah I’m sure

and yeah I’m sure nourish if I mean what value would that

nourish if I mean what value would that

nourish if I mean what value would that bring what would anybody even get out of

bring what would anybody even get out of

bring what would anybody even get out of something like that you know i love it

something like that you know i love it

something like that you know i love it man i love it now I that’s why I

man i love it now I that’s why I

man i love it now I that’s why I actually like your YouTube videos on

actually like your YouTube videos on

actually like your YouTube videos on your YouTube channel you deal with such

your YouTube channel you deal with such

your YouTube channel you deal with such a wide variety of topics but every

a wide variety of topics but every

a wide variety of topics but every single one they connect the dots I mean

single one they connect the dots I mean

single one they connect the dots I mean it’s not just an entrepreneur how to you

it’s not just an entrepreneur how to you

it’s not just an entrepreneur how to you go into like how do you support the

go into like how do you support the

go into like how do you support the crazies and you know just do it follow

crazies and you know just do it follow

crazies and you know just do it follow your heart all that other stuff

your heart all that other stuff

your heart all that other stuff originally when you start it on YouTube

originally when you start it on YouTube

originally when you start it on YouTube and we’ll get into your background will

and we’ll get into your background will

and we’ll get into your background will get into your site and all that but I’m

get into your site and all that but I’m

get into your site and all that but I’m really curious about the YouTube piece

really curious about the YouTube piece

really curious about the YouTube piece when you originally got into it was it a

when you originally got into it was it a

when you originally got into it was it a passion for video is it a passion to get

passion for video is it a passion to get

passion for video is it a passion to get your message out there ah that’s a great

your message out there ah that’s a great

your message out there ah that’s a great question when i first started on YouTube

question when i first started on YouTube

question when i first started on YouTube you know I’m a visual learner so I like

you know I’m a visual learner so I like

you know I’m a visual learner so I like watching things more than reading things

watching things more than reading things

watching things more than reading things or hearing things and so video always

or hearing things and so video always

or hearing things and so video always appealed to me but I never I never

appealed to me but I never I never

appealed to me but I never I never figured out a way to turn it into a

figured out a way to turn it into a

figured out a way to turn it into a business so I just I just started it

business so I just I just started it

business so I just I just started it took me a while to kind of get it going

took me a while to kind of get it going

took me a while to kind of get it going but the very first videos were me just

but the very first videos were me just

but the very first videos were me just with my camera and you know my DSLR and

with my camera and you know my DSLR and

with my camera and you know my DSLR and it’s shaking all over the place and out

it’s shaking all over the place and out

it’s shaking all over the place and out of focus and just brutal stuff and it

of focus and just brutal stuff and it

of focus and just brutal stuff and it started with me wanting to share the

started with me wanting to share the

started with me wanting to share the stories of famous entrepreneurs and I

stories of famous entrepreneurs and I

stories of famous entrepreneurs and I found when I was when I had my biotech

found when I was when I had my biotech

found when I was when I had my biotech software company I I was struggling and

software company I I was struggling and

software company I I was struggling and I was 19 and I had two business partners

I was 19 and I had two business partners

I was 19 and I had two business partners and we felt like we had a really great

and we felt like we had a really great

and we felt like we had a really great product and we put a lot of love and a

product and we put a lot of love and a

product and we put a lot of love and a lot of effort a lot of heart into making

lot of effort a lot of heart into making

lot of effort a lot of heart into making this product happen and we just weren’t

this product happen and we just weren’t

this product happen and we just weren’t getting results we just we were just not

getting results we just we were just not

getting results we just we were just not making sales I was making I was pulling

making sales I was making I was pulling

making sales I was making I was pulling out three hundred dollars a month from

out three hundred dollars a month from

out three hundred dollars a month from the company and just like that’s you

the company and just like that’s you

the company and just like that’s you can’t survive on that i was eating beans

can’t survive on that i was eating beans

can’t survive on that i was eating beans for lunch every day and just and it’s it

for lunch every day and just and it’s it

for lunch every day and just and it’s it was so hard because i really felt like I

was so hard because i really felt like I

was so hard because i really felt like I had something special is just why can’t

had something special is just why can’t

had something special is just why can’t we connect the dots to make this thing

we connect the dots to make this thing

we connect the dots to make this thing work like why am I struggling so much to

work like why am I struggling so much to

work like why am I struggling so much to get this thing off the ground and the

get this thing off the ground and the

get this thing off the ground and the thing that saved my business that

thing that saved my business that

thing that saved my business that prevented me from going to get a job or

prevented me from going to get a job or

prevented me from going to get a job or quitting was when I realized I am not

quitting was when I realized I am not

quitting was when I realized I am not the first guy to try to sell software

the first guy to try to sell software

the first guy to try to sell software before and there was no big leader and

before and there was no big leader and

before and there was no big leader and specifically what we’re doing biotech

specifically what we’re doing biotech

specifically what we’re doing biotech software but I realized you know I’m not

software but I realized you know I’m not

software but I realized you know I’m not the first guy to try to do this like

the first guy to try to do this like

the first guy to try to do this like somebody has solved this problem why am

somebody has solved this problem why am

somebody has solved this problem why am I trying to come up with every answer

I trying to come up with every answer

I trying to come up with every answer myself yeah why why are you trying to

myself yeah why why are you trying to

myself yeah why why are you trying to reinvent the wheel it’s not needed yeah

reinvent the wheel it’s not needed yeah

reinvent the wheel it’s not needed yeah and I wish you know I knew that sooner

and I wish you know I knew that sooner

and I wish you know I knew that sooner because I almost quit and so I looked at

because I almost quit and so I looked at

because I almost quit and so I looked at guys like Bill Gates from Microsoft that

guys like Bill Gates from Microsoft that

guys like Bill Gates from Microsoft that looked at McAfee looking into it I

looked at McAfee looking into it I

looked at McAfee looking into it I looked at how they got started how did

looked at how they got started how did

looked at how they got started how did they make their first meal in like how

they make their first meal in like how

they make their first meal in like how can I do that that’s all I wanted to do

can I do that that’s all I wanted to do

can I do that that’s all I wanted to do I don’t care how Bill Gates make some

I don’t care how Bill Gates make some

I don’t care how Bill Gates make some million dollars now but 0 to 1 like idea

million dollars now but 0 to 1 like idea

million dollars now but 0 to 1 like idea to first million that’s what I wanted to

to first million that’s what I wanted to

to first million that’s what I wanted to learn uh-huh and I started applying

learn uh-huh and I started applying

learn uh-huh and I started applying those strategies to my business and we

those strategies to my business and we

those strategies to my business and we we finally started actually getting some

we finally started actually getting some

we finally started actually getting some momentum when I sold my company we built

momentum when I sold my company we built

momentum when I sold my company we built it up from nothing like 300 bucks a

it up from nothing like 300 bucks a

it up from nothing like 300 bucks a month was pulling out to a couple years

month was pulling out to a couple years

month was pulling out to a couple years three years I had huge clients nasa

three years I had huge clients nasa

three years I had huge clients nasa johnson johnson we’re in over 30

johnson johnson we’re in over 30

johnson johnson we’re in over 30 countries and we got acquired rooms

countries and we got acquired rooms

countries and we got acquired rooms round major major stuff happened for you

round major major stuff happened for you

round major major stuff happened for you during that time yeah and modeling the

during that time yeah and modeling the

during that time yeah and modeling the success of those guys that’s what helped

success of those guys that’s what helped

success of those guys that’s what helped save my business from being like poverty

save my business from being like poverty

save my business from being like poverty line to being an exit with my with my

line to being an exit with my with my

line to being an exit with my with my company and so I I just want to share

company and so I I just want to share

company and so I I just want to share that I felt like there are other

that I felt like there are other

that I felt like there are other entrepreneurs out there who were facing

entrepreneurs out there who were facing

entrepreneurs out there who were facing the same problems that I was facing and

the same problems that I was facing and

the same problems that I was facing and I wanted to share what I had learned

I wanted to share what I had learned

I wanted to share what I had learned from these successful entrepreneurs and

from these successful entrepreneurs and

from these successful entrepreneurs and and just help them and there wasn’t a

and just help them and there wasn’t a

and just help them and there wasn’t a business model there wasn’t a here’s my

business model there wasn’t a here’s my

business model there wasn’t a here’s my next you know ideas just I wanted to

next you know ideas just I wanted to

next you know ideas just I wanted to help other people not face the same

help other people not face the same

help other people not face the same suffering that I had launching this

suffering that I had launching this

suffering that I had launching this thing and so that was the intention

thing and so that was the intention

thing and so that was the intention behind my first videos and they were

behind my first videos and they were

behind my first videos and they were terrible quality and it was just really

terrible quality and it was just really

terrible quality and it was just really bad you know I want to pull them down I

bad you know I want to pull them down I

bad you know I want to pull them down I look back on that stuff I just want to

look back on that stuff I just want to

look back on that stuff I just want to pull them down but they’re still getting

pull them down but they’re still getting

pull them down but they’re still getting views and likes and comment ask joy them

views and likes and comment ask joy them

views and likes and comment ask joy them say okay we’ll keep it up but that was

say okay we’ll keep it up but that was

say okay we’ll keep it up but that was the incentive the motivation for

the incentive the motivation for

the incentive the motivation for starting my channel so all the early

starting my channel so all the early

starting my channel so all the early stuff is around the famous entrepreneurs

stuff is around the famous entrepreneurs

stuff is around the famous entrepreneurs and then people serve asking me

and then people serve asking me

and then people serve asking me questions and I said Evan how would you

questions and I said Evan how would you

questions and I said Evan how would you handle this Evan what would you do in

handle this Evan what would you do in

handle this Evan what would you do in this

this

this and so now most of my videos are just

and so now most of my videos are just

and so now most of my videos are just responding to questions are come in from

responding to questions are come in from

responding to questions are come in from people who’ve asked them I love that you

people who’ve asked them I love that you

people who’ve asked them I love that you do that by the way I mean you’ll

do that by the way I mean you’ll

do that by the way I mean you’ll actually give the the person to shout

actually give the the person to shout

actually give the the person to shout out one of the videos i watched and I

out one of the videos i watched and I

out one of the videos i watched and I don’t remember how far back in the

don’t remember how far back in the

don’t remember how far back in the timeline it was it was about someone who

timeline it was it was about someone who

timeline it was it was about someone who created an app and how to get it out

created an app and how to get it out

created an app and how to get it out there and you gave him a shout out and

there and you gave him a shout out and

there and you gave him a shout out and you answered his question but what I

you answered his question but what I

you answered his question but what I love that you did was you in in your

love that you did was you in in your

love that you did was you in in your answer you said you know tell everybody

answer you said you know tell everybody

answer you said you know tell everybody about it Bubba blah but then you called

about it Bubba blah but then you called

about it Bubba blah but then you called the person now in a fun way and you said

the person now in a fun way and you said

the person now in a fun way and you said hey why didn’t you tell me what the app

hey why didn’t you tell me what the app

hey why didn’t you tell me what the app was why didn’t you tell me what it did I

was why didn’t you tell me what it did I

was why didn’t you tell me what it did I could have been reading it right now on

could have been reading it right now on

could have been reading it right now on my youtube channel telling the world

my youtube channel telling the world

my youtube channel telling the world about it so even things like that I mean

about it so even things like that I mean

about it so even things like that I mean it’s just so informative and helpful for

it’s just so informative and helpful for

it’s just so informative and helpful for people yeah it’s trying to help that

people yeah it’s trying to help that

people yeah it’s trying to help that person as well as help everybody else

person as well as help everybody else

person as well as help everybody else who has that same kind of question

who has that same kind of question

who has that same kind of question because not everybody will have the guts

because not everybody will have the guts

because not everybody will have the guts to write in put themselves on the line

to write in put themselves on the line

to write in put themselves on the line like that and you should do this all by

like that and you should do this all by

like that and you should do this all by email I used to respond to everybody by

email I used to respond to everybody by

email I used to respond to everybody by email and it just became so

email and it just became so

email and it just became so time-consuming and again I thought if I

time-consuming and again I thought if I

time-consuming and again I thought if I made a video of this then I’m not only

made a video of this then I’m not only

made a video of this then I’m not only just helping that one person I do email

just helping that one person I do email

just helping that one person I do email and only helping that one person with

and only helping that one person with

and only helping that one person with video I’m helping everybody else it has

video I’m helping everybody else it has

video I’m helping everybody else it has the same problem so the goal was just to

the same problem so the goal was just to

the same problem so the goal was just to help entrepreneurs and overcome their

help entrepreneurs and overcome their

help entrepreneurs and overcome their struggle cuz cuz it’s man you know you

struggle cuz cuz it’s man you know you

struggle cuz cuz it’s man you know you know you’re you you’re fighting the

know you’re you you’re fighting the

know you’re you you’re fighting the fight it’s hard man it is absolutely

fight it’s hard man it is absolutely

fight it’s hard man it is absolutely your podcast so let’s kind of go back in

your podcast so let’s kind of go back in

your podcast so let’s kind of go back in time for a second because you touched on

time for a second because you touched on

time for a second because you touched on you’re a young guy you built a company

you’re a young guy you built a company

you’re a young guy you built a company will you like was your background being

will you like was your background being

will you like was your background being an entrepreneur I mean did you kind of

an entrepreneur I mean did you kind of

an entrepreneur I mean did you kind of learn that from your parents or your

learn that from your parents or your

learn that from your parents or your upbringing or was that kind of something

upbringing or was that kind of something

upbringing or was that kind of something that you stumbled on and said hey I like

that you stumbled on and said hey I like

that you stumbled on and said hey I like this yeah it’s a great question um I

this yeah it’s a great question um I

this yeah it’s a great question um I feel like I’ve always had a part of it

feel like I’ve always had a part of it

feel like I’ve always had a part of it in me I you know my first thing like

in me I you know my first thing like

in me I you know my first thing like remembers an entrepreneurial ventures I

remembers an entrepreneurial ventures I

remembers an entrepreneurial ventures I was five years old and I convinced my

was five years old and I convinced my

was five years old and I convinced my three-year-old sister to draw pictures

three-year-old sister to draw pictures

three-year-old sister to draw pictures with me and we sold them door to door

with me and we sold them door to door

with me and we sold them door to door and through my life I’ve had various

and through my life I’ve had various

and through my life I’ve had various little ventures baseball cards you know

little ventures baseball cards you know

little ventures baseball cards you know online biz

online biz

online biz says a whole bunch of little stuff

says a whole bunch of little stuff

says a whole bunch of little stuff nothing really took off and I never

nothing really took off and I never

nothing really took off and I never thought it’d be an entrepreneur as a

thought it’d be an entrepreneur as a

thought it’d be an entrepreneur as a career it’s just I don’t know things

career it’s just I don’t know things

career it’s just I don’t know things that I dabbled in my parents were not

that I dabbled in my parents were not

that I dabbled in my parents were not entrepreneurs my family was an

entrepreneurs my family was an

entrepreneurs my family was an entrepreneurs they support everything I

entrepreneurs they support everything I

entrepreneurs they support everything I did but it just I didn’t grow up with

did but it just I didn’t grow up with

did but it just I didn’t grow up with entrepreneurs around me when I graduated

entrepreneurs around me when I graduated

entrepreneurs around me when I graduated high school in my yearbook I looked back

high school in my yearbook I looked back

high school in my yearbook I looked back recently and I said you know what do you

recently and I said you know what do you

recently and I said you know what do you want to be in 10 years or where do you

want to be in 10 years or where do you

want to be in 10 years or where do you see yourself in 10 years and i wrote a

see yourself in 10 years and i wrote a

see yourself in 10 years and i wrote a VP at a bank I always thought I would be

VP at a bank I always thought I would be

VP at a bank I always thought I would be in the in banking world something like

in the in banking world something like

in the in banking world something like that something in finance yeah you know

that something in finance yeah you know

that something in finance yeah you know when I played Monopoly I was always the

when I played Monopoly I was always the

when I played Monopoly I was always the banker I always had to be the banker and

banker I always had to be the banker and

banker I always had to be the banker and so I figured I’d end up somewhere in

so I figured I’d end up somewhere in

so I figured I’d end up somewhere in there and then when I got University my

there and then when I got University my

there and then when I got University my life kind of changed I’ve met up with

life kind of changed I’ve met up with

life kind of changed I’ve met up with these two founders of the software

these two founders of the software

these two founders of the software company and they had this great product

company and they had this great product

company and they had this great product but they couldn’t figure out how to sell

but they couldn’t figure out how to sell

but they couldn’t figure out how to sell it they were they were the programmers

it they were they were the programmers

it they were they were the programmers they were the creative geniuses they

they were the creative geniuses they

they were the creative geniuses they just want to sit in front of their

just want to sit in front of their

just want to sit in front of their computer and code and they needed help

computer and code and they needed help

computer and code and they needed help on the business side and I thought that

on the business side and I thought that

on the business side and I thought that I had a ton of experience and I was 19 I

I had a ton of experience and I was 19 I

I had a ton of experience and I was 19 I didn’t really know what I was doing

didn’t really know what I was doing

didn’t really know what I was doing either but it was more interesting for

either but it was more interesting for

either but it was more interesting for me they didn’t want to learn it whereas

me they didn’t want to learn it whereas

me they didn’t want to learn it whereas i did and i joined them and an

i did and i joined them and an

i did and i joined them and an interesting thing happened in my last

interesting thing happened in my last

interesting thing happened in my last year i got opportunities to work with

year i got opportunities to work with

year i got opportunities to work with two of the biggest and most well-known

two of the biggest and most well-known

two of the biggest and most well-known companies in my field it was merrill

companies in my field it was merrill

companies in my field it was merrill lynch on the investment bank inside and

lynch on the investment bank inside and

lynch on the investment bank inside and McKinsey Consulting one of the biggest

McKinsey Consulting one of the biggest

McKinsey Consulting one of the biggest strategic consulting firms in the world

strategic consulting firms in the world

strategic consulting firms in the world and two years ago that would have been

and two years ago that would have been

and two years ago that would have been my dream job like ah are you kidding me

my dream job like ah are you kidding me

my dream job like ah are you kidding me you guys want me to come and work for

you guys want me to come and work for

you guys want me to come and work for you this is what I signed up for this is

you this is what I signed up for this is

you this is what I signed up for this is amazing and all my friends were kind of

amazing and all my friends were kind of

amazing and all my friends were kind of dying to get those kinds of jobs and

dying to get those kinds of jobs and

dying to get those kinds of jobs and they flew me to New York and they put me

they flew me to New York and they put me

they flew me to New York and they put me up in the Waldorf Astoria and they put

up in the Waldorf Astoria and they put

up in the Waldorf Astoria and they put me through the whole interview process

me through the whole interview process

me through the whole interview process they wanted me to join but it just

they wanted me to join but it just

they wanted me to join but it just didn’t feel right for some reason and at

didn’t feel right for some reason and at

didn’t feel right for some reason and at that time and things didn’t really make

that time and things didn’t really make

that time and things didn’t really make sense like I have this company that I’m

sense like I have this company that I’m

sense like I have this company that I’m doing that I’m not making anything on

doing that I’m not making anything on

doing that I’m not making anything on 300 bucks a month meanwhile Merrill

300 bucks a month meanwhile Merrill

300 bucks a month meanwhile Merrill Lynch McInnes either they’re offering

Lynch McInnes either they’re offering

Lynch McInnes either they’re offering eat into a hundred thousand starting

eat into a hundred thousand starting

eat into a hundred thousand starting salary traveling around the world and

salary traveling around the world and

salary traveling around the world and yet for some reason I’m geared to war

yet for some reason I’m geared to war

yet for some reason I’m geared to war doing my business my own thing and it

doing my business my own thing and it

doing my business my own thing and it didn’t make any sense my friends thought

didn’t make any sense my friends thought

didn’t make any sense my friends thought I was crazy and I don’t know I just felt

I was crazy and I don’t know I just felt

I was crazy and I don’t know I just felt like I would regret it I would regret it

like I would regret it I would regret it

like I would regret it I would regret it if I didn’t try i had to try and the way

if I didn’t try i had to try and the way

if I didn’t try i had to try and the way i got the courage to do that was to say

i got the courage to do that was to say

i got the courage to do that was to say I’m gonna take a year you know some of

I’m gonna take a year you know some of

I’m gonna take a year you know some of my friends graduating from University

my friends graduating from University

my friends graduating from University took a year off to travel or whatever

took a year off to travel or whatever

took a year off to travel or whatever yeah I said I’m going to take a year I’m

yeah I said I’m going to take a year I’m

yeah I said I’m going to take a year I’m gonna try this thing and I’m gonna try

gonna try this thing and I’m gonna try

gonna try this thing and I’m gonna try to make it work and just to let that

to make it work and just to let that

to make it work and just to let that that so I won’t live my life with

that so I won’t live my life with

that so I won’t live my life with regrets and that’s how I summon the

regrets and that’s how I summon the

regrets and that’s how I summon the courage to do it because it didn’t make

courage to do it because it didn’t make

courage to do it because it didn’t make any logical sense to do this over get

any logical sense to do this over get

any logical sense to do this over get this amazing job and I never looked back

this amazing job and I never looked back

this amazing job and I never looked back you know that the year it worked out and

you know that the year it worked out and

you know that the year it worked out and just kept building from there so it was

just kept building from there so it was

just kept building from there so it was a pivotal time in my life but I never

a pivotal time in my life but I never

a pivotal time in my life but I never thought I was going to be an

thought I was going to be an

thought I was going to be an entrepreneur that’s awesome most people

entrepreneur that’s awesome most people

entrepreneur that’s awesome most people when they were you know if they’re ever

when they were you know if they’re ever

when they were you know if they’re ever presented with a fantastic opportunity

presented with a fantastic opportunity

presented with a fantastic opportunity like that how could you turn it down and

like that how could you turn it down and

like that how could you turn it down and I imagine some people probably thought

I imagine some people probably thought

I imagine some people probably thought you were nuts when you made that

you were nuts when you made that

you were nuts when you made that decision but I understand that I mean as

decision but I understand that I mean as

decision but I understand that I mean as you know prior to hitting record you and

you know prior to hitting record you and

you know prior to hitting record you and I were talking I kind of went through

I were talking I kind of went through

I were talking I kind of went through something similar and like you can’t put

something similar and like you can’t put

something similar and like you can’t put your finger on you just know that you’re

your finger on you just know that you’re

your finger on you just know that you’re you’re drawn to doing your own thing or

you’re drawn to doing your own thing or

you’re drawn to doing your own thing or whatever it is I mean look you probably

whatever it is I mean look you probably

whatever it is I mean look you probably could have been real happy at that

could have been real happy at that

could have been real happy at that position right you probably have made a

position right you probably have made a

position right you probably have made a lot of money rose in the ranks in really

lot of money rose in the ranks in really

lot of money rose in the ranks in really done well for yourself but it sounds

done well for yourself but it sounds

done well for yourself but it sounds like there was that one thing in the pit

like there was that one thing in the pit

like there was that one thing in the pit of your stomach that’s saying you know

of your stomach that’s saying you know

of your stomach that’s saying you know what let me let me just do this first

what let me let me just do this first

what let me let me just do this first but before I get all gung-ho and and I

but before I get all gung-ho and and I

but before I get all gung-ho and and I landed the the job of my dreams let me

landed the the job of my dreams let me

landed the the job of my dreams let me just try this first let me give myself

just try this first let me give myself

just try this first let me give myself enough time enough runway and give it an

enough time enough runway and give it an

enough time enough runway and give it an honest go because at the end of the day

honest go because at the end of the day

honest go because at the end of the day you wouldn’t you probably wouldn’t been

you wouldn’t you probably wouldn’t been

you wouldn’t you probably wouldn’t been able to live with yourself if you didn’t

able to live with yourself if you didn’t

able to live with yourself if you didn’t at least try am I correct yeah yeah and

at least try am I correct yeah yeah and

at least try am I correct yeah yeah and the funny thing is the my friends who

the funny thing is the my friends who

the funny thing is the my friends who kind of made fun of me and said what are

kind of made fun of me and said what are

kind of made fun of me and said what are you doing you know ten years later come

you doing you know ten years later come

you doing you know ten years later come back and they’re there in those jobs and

back and they’re there in those jobs and

back and they’re there in those jobs and they and they hate their lives and they

they and they hate their lives and they

they and they hate their lives and they come back and they meet with me to say

come back and they meet with me to say

come back and they meet with me to say Evan I gotta gather this I want to start

Evan I gotta gather this I want to start

Evan I gotta gather this I want to start my own business what do you recommend

my own business what do you recommend

my own business what do you recommend and I’m

and I’m

and I’m just so grateful that I did not go down

just so grateful that I did not go down

just so grateful that I did not go down that path that probably has to feel

that path that probably has to feel

that path that probably has to feel really good I mean deep down selfishly

really good I mean deep down selfishly

really good I mean deep down selfishly like you probably you probably feel

like you probably you probably feel

like you probably you probably feel really I don’t know fulfilled

really I don’t know fulfilled

really I don’t know fulfilled accomplished I mean really you probably

accomplished I mean really you probably

accomplished I mean really you probably feel excellent right yeah you know it’s

feel excellent right yeah you know it’s

feel excellent right yeah you know it’s a full circle moment because these are

a full circle moment because these are

a full circle moment because these are the guys giving me a hard time and and

the guys giving me a hard time and and

the guys giving me a hard time and and you know they were they weren’t bashing

you know they were they weren’t bashing

you know they were they weren’t bashing on me they weren’t saying you’re stupid

on me they weren’t saying you’re stupid

on me they weren’t saying you’re stupid uh they just didn’t understand it you

uh they just didn’t understand it you

uh they just didn’t understand it you know they thought they didn’t want me to

know they thought they didn’t want me to

know they thought they didn’t want me to make a mistake it was out of love more

make a mistake it was out of love more

make a mistake it was out of love more than anything else because they wouldn’t

than anything else because they wouldn’t

than anything else because they wouldn’t have done that themselves so I i am not

have done that themselves so I i am not

have done that themselves so I i am not happy to see my friends suffering so who

happy to see my friends suffering so who

happy to see my friends suffering so who does really once once that year was up i

does really once once that year was up i

does really once once that year was up i was glad you know once my company

was glad you know once my company

was glad you know once my company started to take off i was glad that i

started to take off i was glad that i

started to take off i was glad that i didn’t go i didn’t i didn’t regret it i

didn’t go i didn’t i didn’t regret it i

didn’t go i didn’t i didn’t regret it i didn’t regret going for my business

didn’t regret going for my business

didn’t regret going for my business instead of taking on the job yeah and

instead of taking on the job yeah and

instead of taking on the job yeah and then from there you went into becoming a

then from there you went into becoming a

then from there you went into becoming a venture capitalist you did all this

venture capitalist you did all this

venture capitalist you did all this stuff and intact and in that space but

stuff and intact and in that space but

stuff and intact and in that space but something led you to start your own

something led you to start your own

something led you to start your own website we’re now hosts I mean talk

website we’re now hosts I mean talk

website we’re now hosts I mean talk about a library of information no did

about a library of information no did

about a library of information no did all this come from a lot of the stuff

all this come from a lot of the stuff

all this come from a lot of the stuff that you personally went through and you

that you personally went through and you

that you personally went through and you personally learned and kind of going

personally learned and kind of going

personally learned and kind of going back to what you said about the email

back to what you said about the email

back to what you said about the email you realized hey I can help my friends I

you realized hey I can help my friends I

you realized hey I can help my friends I can give advice I can write an email but

can give advice I can write an email but

can give advice I can write an email but I’m only helping 12 maybe 10 people by

I’m only helping 12 maybe 10 people by

I’m only helping 12 maybe 10 people by doing that if I create a website in a

doing that if I create a website in a

doing that if I create a website in a home base you know so to speak for an

home base you know so to speak for an

home base you know so to speak for an entrepreneur I could help tens of

entrepreneur I could help tens of

entrepreneur I could help tens of millions of people did it originally

millions of people did it originally

millions of people did it originally starlight that with that vision or did

starlight that with that vision or did

starlight that with that vision or did you just kind of want to have a place to

you just kind of want to have a place to

you just kind of want to have a place to to you know host all your great content

to you know host all your great content

to you know host all your great content yeah I wish I could say this was my

yeah I wish I could say this was my

yeah I wish I could say this was my genius idea that’s all find out but it’s

genius idea that’s all find out but it’s

genius idea that’s all find out but it’s nowhere close yeah I didn’t know what I

nowhere close yeah I didn’t know what I

nowhere close yeah I didn’t know what I was doing to be honest I sold my

was doing to be honest I sold my

was doing to be honest I sold my business I i bought my domain name the

business I i bought my domain name the

business I i bought my domain name the sites off my name it’s not small

sites off my name it’s not small

sites off my name it’s not small business success or something like that

business success or something like that

business success or something like that it’s off of my name real quick it’s Evan

it’s off of my name real quick it’s Evan

it’s off of my name real quick it’s Evan Carmichael calm so the the site that

Carmichael calm so the the site that

Carmichael calm so the the site that we’re talking about go check it out Evan

we’re talking about go check it out Evan

we’re talking about go check it out Evan Carmichael calm add genius named after

Carmichael calm add genius named after

Carmichael calm add genius named after yourself I don’t know if you did that on

yourself I don’t know if you did that on

yourself I don’t know if you did that on purpose but sorry

purpose but sorry

purpose but sorry right ahead yeah and I started it after

right ahead yeah and I started it after

right ahead yeah and I started it after I sold my business you know I was 22 23

I sold my business you know I was 22 23

I sold my business you know I was 22 23 I was asked to do a lot of speaking uh

I was asked to do a lot of speaking uh

I was asked to do a lot of speaking uh you know in North America and abroad

you know in North America and abroad

you know in North America and abroad just telling my story and helping out

just telling my story and helping out

just telling my story and helping out other entrepreneurs and so I used a

other entrepreneurs and so I used a

other entrepreneurs and so I used a website just as a place to say here’s

website just as a place to say here’s

website just as a place to say here’s where I’m gonna be speaking and here’s

where I’m gonna be speaking and here’s

where I’m gonna be speaking and here’s what I’m talking about there were no

what I’m talking about there were no

what I’m talking about there were no articles there was nothing on there I

articles there was nothing on there I

articles there was nothing on there I built it up to start sharing some

built it up to start sharing some

built it up to start sharing some content around the famous entrepreneur

content around the famous entrepreneur

content around the famous entrepreneur so I started with the videos and I

so I started with the videos and I

so I started with the videos and I started writing articles as well and

started writing articles as well and

started writing articles as well and then I was at the point where I didn’t

then I was at the point where I didn’t

then I was at the point where I didn’t know what to do with my life I didn’t

know what to do with my life I didn’t

know what to do with my life I didn’t know what to do next I sold my business

know what to do next I sold my business

know what to do next I sold my business it was a great tie for me but then you

it was a great tie for me but then you

it was a great tie for me but then you know everything I had worked towards for

know everything I had worked towards for

know everything I had worked towards for those years was gone I didn’t know what

those years was gone I didn’t know what

those years was gone I didn’t know what I was supposed to do next I shall was in

I was supposed to do next I shall was in

I was supposed to do next I shall was in a period of just exploring and seeing

a period of just exploring and seeing

a period of just exploring and seeing what I wanted to do and the idea of

what I wanted to do and the idea of

what I wanted to do and the idea of venture capital was always intriguing to

venture capital was always intriguing to

venture capital was always intriguing to me i didn’t i didn’t take venture

me i didn’t i didn’t take venture

me i didn’t i didn’t take venture capital for my business we thought about

capital for my business we thought about

capital for my business we thought about it but we didn’t need it and so I wanted

it but we didn’t need it and so I wanted

it but we didn’t need it and so I wanted to just learn and if you don’t know what

to just learn and if you don’t know what

to just learn and if you don’t know what you want to do next go out and learn

you want to do next go out and learn

you want to do next go out and learn just try stuff and see what six and

just try stuff and see what six and

just try stuff and see what six and don’t put pressure on yourself you have

don’t put pressure on yourself you have

don’t put pressure on yourself you have to find the one thing right now and I’m

to find the one thing right now and I’m

to find the one thing right now and I’m connected with a company and that the

connected with a company and that the

connected with a company and that the four principal founders were all in

four principal founders were all in

four principal founders were all in their 60s or 70s had learned you know a

their 60s or 70s had learned you know a

their 60s or 70s had learned you know a lot in their career and I joined them

lot in their career and I joined them

lot in their career and I joined them and they took me on as kind of an

and they took me on as kind of an

and they took me on as kind of an apprentice and I help bringing deals and

apprentice and I help bringing deals and

apprentice and I help bringing deals and they taught me about the venture capital

they taught me about the venture capital

they taught me about the venture capital world and we’re raising half a million

world and we’re raising half a million

world and we’re raising half a million to 15 million for companies and I use my

to 15 million for companies and I use my

to 15 million for companies and I use my website just as lead generation you know

website just as lead generation you know

website just as lead generation you know I started writing articles this is kind

I started writing articles this is kind

I started writing articles this is kind of earlier days of the web started

of earlier days of the web started

of earlier days of the web started writing articles and people would find

writing articles and people would find

writing articles and people would find my site and I would use it to introduce

my site and I would use it to introduce

my site and I would use it to introduce them to the venture capital world and

them to the venture capital world and

them to the venture capital world and then people just started writing to me

then people just started writing to me

then people just started writing to me say heaven I love your site I’m a

say heaven I love your site I’m a

say heaven I love your site I’m a marketing consultant do you mind if I

marketing consultant do you mind if I

marketing consultant do you mind if I write an article on marketing and I read

write an article on marketing and I read

write an article on marketing and I read it and look good as a sure you know I

it and look good as a sure you know I

it and look good as a sure you know I wasn’t charging them I wasn’t making

wasn’t charging them I wasn’t making

wasn’t charging them I wasn’t making money from it but it was helping my

money from it but it was helping my

money from it but it was helping my reader so but why not and more and more

reader so but why not and more and more

reader so but why not and more and more people just started contacting me wanted

people just started contacting me wanted

people just started contacting me wanted to contribute and they had great stuff

to contribute and they had great stuff

to contribute and they had great stuff to share so I thought why not and we

to share so I thought why not and we

to share so I thought why not and we slowly built up the site and once I

slowly built up the site and once I

slowly built up the site and once I realized hey maybe

realized hey maybe

realized hey maybe this could be a revenue opportunity

this could be a revenue opportunity

this could be a revenue opportunity maybe this is a business here then I

maybe this is a business here then I

maybe this is a business here then I focused on it and got more and more

focused on it and got more and more

focused on it and got more and more people to contribute to the site but the

people to contribute to the site but the

people to contribute to the site but the early days there wasn’t this grand

early days there wasn’t this grand

early days there wasn’t this grand vision and said here’s what I’m gonna do

vision and said here’s what I’m gonna do

vision and said here’s what I’m gonna do uh it just kind of just hadn’t evolved

uh it just kind of just hadn’t evolved

uh it just kind of just hadn’t evolved into enterprise today like I was excited

into enterprise today like I was excited

into enterprise today like I was excited by it I was learning about it and and by

by it I was learning about it and and by

by it I was learning about it and and by following my passion that led to this

following my passion that led to this

following my passion that led to this now a lot of the early contributors to

now a lot of the early contributors to

now a lot of the early contributors to your website I imagine you you vetted

your website I imagine you you vetted

your website I imagine you you vetted them out pretty good I mean you didn’t

them out pretty good I mean you didn’t

them out pretty good I mean you didn’t just someone you know wrote in and say

just someone you know wrote in and say

just someone you know wrote in and say hey I could talk about this and you’re

hey I could talk about this and you’re

hey I could talk about this and you’re like yeah come on let’s go yeah they

like yeah come on let’s go yeah they

like yeah come on let’s go yeah they were there were people that I knew or

were there were people that I knew or

were there were people that I knew or people who that had read something that

people who that had read something that

people who that had read something that I wrote about venture capital or a

I wrote about venture capital or a

I wrote about venture capital or a famous entrepreneur and they usually

famous entrepreneur and they usually

famous entrepreneur and they usually sent in something they sent it in

sent in something they sent it in

sent in something they sent it in article said here’s what I would like to

article said here’s what I would like to

article said here’s what I would like to add on your side are you okay with it

add on your side are you okay with it

add on your side are you okay with it and I read it over and look good so I

and I read it over and look good so I

and I read it over and look good so I thought why not it the first person i

thought why not it the first person i

thought why not it the first person i figured who the first person ones who

figured who the first person ones who

figured who the first person ones who wrote in but I didn’t know if I wanted

wrote in but I didn’t know if I wanted

wrote in but I didn’t know if I wanted to do it at the start like well this is

to do it at the start like well this is

to do it at the start like well this is my site it’s my name why would I put

my site it’s my name why would I put

my site it’s my name why would I put somebody else’s stuff up on here but I

somebody else’s stuff up on here but I

somebody else’s stuff up on here but I read the article thought it was good it

read the article thought it was good it

read the article thought it was good it gave me some insight so but well why not

gave me some insight so but well why not

gave me some insight so but well why not I mean the site’s about helping

I mean the site’s about helping

I mean the site’s about helping entrepreneurs so I might as well help

entrepreneurs so I might as well help

entrepreneurs so I might as well help spread that message so it originally

spread that message so it originally

spread that message so it originally started with the the angel investors and

started with the the angel investors and

started with the the angel investors and venture capitalists and all that correct

venture capitalists and all that correct

venture capitalists and all that correct yeah agent Lee sin yeah combination of

yeah agent Lee sin yeah combination of

yeah agent Lee sin yeah combination of the very first content was the famous

the very first content was the famous

the very first content was the famous entrepreneur stuff I was just sharing it

entrepreneur stuff I was just sharing it

entrepreneur stuff I was just sharing it to share there was no model at all and

to share there was no model at all and

to share there was no model at all and then I involved it to also include some

then I involved it to also include some

then I involved it to also include some some more the venture capital side than

some more the venture capital side than

some more the venture capital side than angel but how to raise capital and use

angel but how to raise capital and use

angel but how to raise capital and use that as a as a lead gen for the venture

that as a as a lead gen for the venture

that as a as a lead gen for the venture capital business that I was in so there

capital business that I was in so there

capital business that I was in so there was more of a purpose with that content

was more of a purpose with that content

was more of a purpose with that content so that’s going to be evolution then

so that’s going to be evolution then

so that’s going to be evolution then people started to write to me and then

people started to write to me and then

people started to write to me and then fast forward to today I mean you have

fast forward to today I mean you have

fast forward to today I mean you have take money on the picture you have

take money on the picture you have

take money on the picture you have advertising book reviews business plans

advertising book reviews business plans

advertising book reviews business plans business travel retail sales I mean just

business travel retail sales I mean just

business travel retail sales I mean just literally like the Swiss Army knife of

literally like the Swiss Army knife of

literally like the Swiss Army knife of information so no matter what you’re

information so no matter what you’re

information so no matter what you’re doing whatever your business is be it

doing whatever your business is be it

doing whatever your business is be it online or offline you can go to this

online or offline you can go to this

online or offline you can go to this this resource and just pick what you

this resource and just pick what you

this resource and just pick what you need

need

need and run with it yeah it’s been a lot of

and run with it yeah it’s been a lot of

and run with it yeah it’s been a lot of fun building that we have the largest

fun building that we have the largest

fun building that we have the largest collection of famous entrepreneur

collection of famous entrepreneur

collection of famous entrepreneur stories online and that is what kind of

stories online and that is what kind of

stories online and that is what kind of keeps me inspired and motivated reading

keeps me inspired and motivated reading

keeps me inspired and motivated reading those stories and how they failed and

those stories and how they failed and

those stories and how they failed and they you know they suck that the early

they you know they suck that the early

they you know they suck that the early days and they built up something great

days and they built up something great

days and they built up something great that’s what helped me keep going and I

that’s what helped me keep going and I

that’s what helped me keep going and I think as people read those articles they

think as people read those articles they

think as people read those articles they want to contribute and so everybody on

want to contribute and so everybody on

want to contribute and so everybody on the site we have I don’t know eight

the site we have I don’t know eight

the site we have I don’t know eight thousand author something like that and

thousand author something like that and

thousand author something like that and everybody is an expert in their field

everybody is an expert in their field

everybody is an expert in their field and they share advice to help

and they share advice to help

and they share advice to help entrepreneurs solve you know whatever

entrepreneurs solve you know whatever

entrepreneurs solve you know whatever problems are facing yeah I mean you even

problems are facing yeah I mean you even

problems are facing yeah I mean you even have on the master section Wolfgang Puck

have on the master section Wolfgang Puck

have on the master section Wolfgang Puck Sean Diddy Combs I mean these are some

Sean Diddy Combs I mean these are some

Sean Diddy Combs I mean these are some Donald Trump this is a major major major

Donald Trump this is a major major major

Donald Trump this is a major major major people yeah it was fun putting that

people yeah it was fun putting that

people yeah it was fun putting that together a lot of that came from readers

together a lot of that came from readers

together a lot of that came from readers who said I’d love to have something on

who said I’d love to have something on

who said I’d love to have something on Jennifer Lopez or you know Henry Ford or

Jennifer Lopez or you know Henry Ford or

Jennifer Lopez or you know Henry Ford or whoever it is and so we we got the work

whoever it is and so we we got the work

whoever it is and so we we got the work instead of creating content that’s

instead of creating content that’s

instead of creating content that’s awesome not that I imagine has helped

awesome not that I imagine has helped

awesome not that I imagine has helped your site in your brand kind of propel

your site in your brand kind of propel

your site in your brand kind of propel it to the next level just by having that

it to the next level just by having that

it to the next level just by having that social credibility that social proof

social credibility that social proof

social credibility that social proof right yeah you know when I was going

right yeah you know when I was going

right yeah you know when I was going after authors when I decided hey this is

after authors when I decided hey this is

after authors when I decided hey this is a business and we need to go start

a business and we need to go start

a business and we need to go start getting people so it’s not just rely on

getting people so it’s not just rely on

getting people so it’s not just rely on the you know one or two a month the

the you know one or two a month the

the you know one or two a month the people who are writing in to me I had to

people who are writing in to me I had to

people who are writing in to me I had to go and make this a business and get lots

go and make this a business and get lots

go and make this a business and get lots of content my goal was to get Donald

of content my goal was to get Donald

of content my goal was to get Donald Trump on the site and at the time The

Trump on the site and at the time The

Trump on the site and at the time The Apprentice had just come out like first

Apprentice had just come out like first

Apprentice had just come out like first use of the apprentice I don’t know if

use of the apprentice I don’t know if

use of the apprentice I don’t know if you watch that show but I did yeah I was

you watch that show but I did yeah I was

you watch that show but I did yeah I was a huge fan I had like parties at my

a huge fan I had like parties at my

a huge fan I had like parties at my house people like this and so he was the

house people like this and so he was the

house people like this and so he was the biggest name in entrepreneurship but I

biggest name in entrepreneurship but I

biggest name in entrepreneurship but I said I wanted to get him on my site but

said I wanted to get him on my site but

said I wanted to get him on my site but I didn’t want to go right to him because

I didn’t want to go right to him because

I didn’t want to go right to him because I didn’t really have much on my site yet

I didn’t really have much on my site yet

I didn’t really have much on my site yet and so I kind of figured out a plan how

and so I kind of figured out a plan how

and so I kind of figured out a plan how we’re gonna get to Donald Trump and

we’re gonna get to Donald Trump and

we’re gonna get to Donald Trump and start working with some smaller guys and

start working with some smaller guys and

start working with some smaller guys and move my way up so the first to kind of

move my way up so the first to kind of

move my way up so the first to kind of bigger name people who I brought on

bigger name people who I brought on

bigger name people who I brought on board with Seth Godin and Guy Kawasaki

board with Seth Godin and Guy Kawasaki

board with Seth Godin and Guy Kawasaki who you probably know are there there’s

who you probably know are there there’s

who you probably know are there there’s no kind of in the online world but

no kind of in the online world but

no kind of in the online world but offline maybe not too much and they’re

offline maybe not too much and they’re

offline maybe not too much and they’re both bigger now than

both bigger now than

both bigger now than when I first contacted them and they

when I first contacted them and they

when I first contacted them and they said yes which is great and I just wrote

said yes which is great and I just wrote

said yes which is great and I just wrote to them out of the blue and they said

to them out of the blue and they said

to them out of the blue and they said yes and then I used their names to bring

yes and then I used their names to bring

yes and then I used their names to bring in slowly bigger and bigger bigger

in slowly bigger and bigger bigger

in slowly bigger and bigger bigger people so we brought in zig ziglar and

people so we brought in zig ziglar and

people so we brought in zig ziglar and Jack Canfield and Michael Gerber who are

Jack Canfield and Michael Gerber who are

Jack Canfield and Michael Gerber who are the e-myth and then use all those names

the e-myth and then use all those names

the e-myth and then use all those names to then pull in Donald Trump’s where

to then pull in Donald Trump’s where

to then pull in Donald Trump’s where it’s you know it’s hard for them to say

it’s you know it’s hard for them to say

it’s you know it’s hard for them to say no when they see all this momentum has

no when they see all this momentum has

no when they see all this momentum has been built up and then once we got Trump

been built up and then once we got Trump

been built up and then once we got Trump we stopped I stopped having to reach out

we stopped I stopped having to reach out

we stopped I stopped having to reach out like outreach basically stopped I’m for

like outreach basically stopped I’m for

like outreach basically stopped I’m for Trump because we had hit the tipping

Trump because we had hit the tipping

Trump because we had hit the tipping point where people now wanted to become

point where people now wanted to become

point where people now wanted to become part of our site because we had all

part of our site because we had all

part of our site because we had all these big name authors like Donald Trump

these big name authors like Donald Trump

these big name authors like Donald Trump um I so it’s just kind of grown from

um I so it’s just kind of grown from

um I so it’s just kind of grown from there it isn’t that funny how you would

there it isn’t that funny how you would

there it isn’t that funny how you would think asking somebody for help no matter

think asking somebody for help no matter

think asking somebody for help no matter how big or famous they are how highly

how big or famous they are how highly

how big or famous they are how highly respected they’re in their field a lot

respected they’re in their field a lot

respected they’re in their field a lot of people are fearful of just taking

of people are fearful of just taking

of people are fearful of just taking that first step and saying hey I want

that first step and saying hey I want

that first step and saying hey I want Donald Trump let me reach out to I want

Donald Trump let me reach out to I want

Donald Trump let me reach out to I want guy you know Kawasaki let me reach out

guy you know Kawasaki let me reach out

guy you know Kawasaki let me reach out to him once you start doing those things

to him once you start doing those things

to him once you start doing those things I mean wouldn’t you agree it’s a lot

I mean wouldn’t you agree it’s a lot

I mean wouldn’t you agree it’s a lot easier than you think well you know

easier than you think well you know

easier than you think well you know getting that may be that big name or it

getting that may be that big name or it

getting that may be that big name or it maybe it’s not an interview maybe it’s

maybe it’s not an interview maybe it’s

maybe it’s not an interview maybe it’s not content maybe it’s you know you want

not content maybe it’s you know you want

not content maybe it’s you know you want the the head of some distribution

the the head of some distribution

the the head of some distribution company for your t-shirt company you

company for your t-shirt company you

company for your t-shirt company you know I mean like once you actually just

know I mean like once you actually just

know I mean like once you actually just start reaching out to these people you

start reaching out to these people you

start reaching out to these people you realize it’s not that bad it’s not that

realize it’s not that bad it’s not that

realize it’s not that bad it’s not that hard yeah I think if you can show your

hard yeah I think if you can show your

hard yeah I think if you can show your passion and your excitement then that

passion and your excitement then that

passion and your excitement then that gets infectious and people will want to

gets infectious and people will want to

gets infectious and people will want to work with you in whatever capacity it is

work with you in whatever capacity it is

work with you in whatever capacity it is if it’s just being a mentor to you or

if it’s just being a mentor to you or

if it’s just being a mentor to you or half hour phone call or if you want to

half hour phone call or if you want to

half hour phone call or if you want to partner up on something you need to show

partner up on something you need to show

partner up on something you need to show that infectious enthusiasm and the

that infectious enthusiasm and the

that infectious enthusiasm and the passion for what you’re doing and if you

passion for what you’re doing and if you

passion for what you’re doing and if you can do that then it’s a lot easier to

can do that then it’s a lot easier to

can do that then it’s a lot easier to get people on board well yeah and not

get people on board well yeah and not

get people on board well yeah and not only that but you actually have to have

only that but you actually have to have

only that but you actually have to have something legit I mean you got to have

something legit I mean you got to have

something legit I mean you got to have some type of value that you’re doing I

some type of value that you’re doing I

some type of value that you’re doing I mean you can’t just reach out to a

mean you can’t just reach out to a

mean you can’t just reach out to a Donald Trump and say hey I’m selling my

Donald Trump and say hey I’m selling my

Donald Trump and say hey I’m selling my weight loss pills would you give me a

weight loss pills would you give me a

weight loss pills would you give me a testimony or whatever right

testimony or whatever right

testimony or whatever right I mean you get it’s got to be something

I mean you get it’s got to be something

I mean you get it’s got to be something of value yeah yeah i agree i mean

of value yeah yeah i agree i mean

of value yeah yeah i agree i mean sometimes the value can just be giving

sometimes the value can just be giving

sometimes the value can just be giving back a lot of entrepreneurs are happy to

back a lot of entrepreneurs are happy to

back a lot of entrepreneurs are happy to give back and help out other

give back and help out other

give back and help out other entrepreneurs if you feel like they’re

entrepreneurs if you feel like they’re

entrepreneurs if you feel like they’re actually going to listen to you and take

actually going to listen to you and take

actually going to listen to you and take the advice i remember one person who

the advice i remember one person who

the advice i remember one person who wrote in who is an entrepreneur who’s on

wrote in who is an entrepreneur who’s on

wrote in who is an entrepreneur who’s on my list or youtube views or whatever it

my list or youtube views or whatever it

my list or youtube views or whatever it was and yeah I’m pretty protected with

was and yeah I’m pretty protected with

was and yeah I’m pretty protected with my time there’s only so much to go

my time there’s only so much to go

my time there’s only so much to go around I’m happy to do video responses

around I’m happy to do video responses

around I’m happy to do video responses but this person really wanted to meet

but this person really wanted to meet

but this person really wanted to meet and you know that takes like in a half

and you know that takes like in a half

and you know that takes like in a half an hour an hour out of my day instead of

an hour an hour out of my day instead of

an hour an hour out of my day instead of five minutes to make a video and the way

five minutes to make a video and the way

five minutes to make a video and the way she wrote in was just so passionate and

she wrote in was just so passionate and

she wrote in was just so passionate and she said you know even if even if it’s

she said you know even if even if it’s

she said you know even if even if it’s five minutes as you’re walking to your

five minutes as you’re walking to your

five minutes as you’re walking to your car you know I will be there and I’ll

car you know I will be there and I’ll

car you know I will be there and I’ll bring a treat for you to eat and just

bring a treat for you to eat and just

bring a treat for you to eat and just like so much passion came out of that

like so much passion came out of that

like so much passion came out of that correspondence that I felt like you know

correspondence that I felt like you know

correspondence that I felt like you know what I got it I gotta I gotta meet her

what I got it I gotta I gotta meet her

what I got it I gotta I gotta meet her and what did I get from what she’s not

and what did I get from what she’s not

and what did I get from what she’s not paying me I’m not part of her business

paying me I’m not part of her business

paying me I’m not part of her business we’re not recording this isn’t going

we’re not recording this isn’t going

we’re not recording this isn’t going anywhere it’s just helping her but

anywhere it’s just helping her but

anywhere it’s just helping her but helping her helps me know because I felt

helping her helps me know because I felt

helping her helps me know because I felt like he was gonna listen and take that

like he was gonna listen and take that

like he was gonna listen and take that advice and that feeling of giving back

advice and that feeling of giving back

advice and that feeling of giving back is something that made me feel good and

is something that made me feel good and

is something that made me feel good and so i would i would do it even knows

so i would i would do it even knows

so i would i would do it even knows maybe no financial or other game that i

maybe no financial or other game that i

maybe no financial or other game that i would get oh so it’s somehow in the way

would get oh so it’s somehow in the way

would get oh so it’s somehow in the way she constructed her email or whatever

she constructed her email or whatever

she constructed her email or whatever you got the sense of okay this isn’t

you got the sense of okay this isn’t

you got the sense of okay this isn’t just you know some fan or maybe some

just you know some fan or maybe some

just you know some fan or maybe some crazy psycho like this is a person

crazy psycho like this is a person

crazy psycho like this is a person actually invested in what she’s doing

actually invested in what she’s doing

actually invested in what she’s doing and if i gave her the couple minutes of

and if i gave her the couple minutes of

and if i gave her the couple minutes of my time like you said off camera off

my time like you said off camera off

my time like you said off camera off audio it wasn’t a PR move you knew that

audio it wasn’t a PR move you knew that

audio it wasn’t a PR move you knew that whatever discussion that you guys were

whatever discussion that you guys were

whatever discussion that you guys were going to have whatever advice you were

going to have whatever advice you were

going to have whatever advice you were going to give this person that they

going to give this person that they

going to give this person that they would not only listen to it but they

would not only listen to it but they

would not only listen to it but they would value it and it would probably

would value it and it would probably

would value it and it would probably change their life and if you can do

change their life and if you can do

change their life and if you can do something like that for somebody uh

something like that for somebody uh

something like that for somebody uh selfishly for you then it’s it’s almost

selfishly for you then it’s it’s almost

selfishly for you then it’s it’s almost like paying it forward you’re gonna feel

like paying it forward you’re gonna feel

like paying it forward you’re gonna feel great you’re going to help somebody

great you’re going to help somebody

great you’re going to help somebody that’s it that’s it and that fashion

that’s it that’s it and that fashion

that’s it that’s it and that fashion show

show

show through and so you know people are

through and so you know people are

through and so you know people are willing to help you if you reach out

willing to help you if you reach out

willing to help you if you reach out like you reached out to me about this

like you reached out to me about this

like you reached out to me about this show and you are excited in your email

show and you are excited in your email

show and you are excited in your email and looked interesting and so you know I

and looked interesting and so you know I

and looked interesting and so you know I I said yeah let’s do it let’s let’s do

I said yeah let’s do it let’s let’s do

I said yeah let’s do it let’s let’s do this in help entrepreneurs so when

this in help entrepreneurs so when

this in help entrepreneurs so when you’re when you’re reaching out to

you’re when you’re reaching out to

you’re when you’re reaching out to people asking for help if you genuinely

people asking for help if you genuinely

people asking for help if you genuinely show that you are excited by this it’s

show that you are excited by this it’s

show that you are excited by this it’s infectious people want to be a part of

infectious people want to be a part of

infectious people want to be a part of it it comes a dia almost like you can

it it comes a dia almost like you can

it it comes a dia almost like you can you just sense it right yeah and it’s

you just sense it right yeah and it’s

you just sense it right yeah and it’s not it’s not it’s not what you say it’s

not it’s not it’s not what you say it’s

not it’s not it’s not what you say it’s how you say it right I you could you

how you say it right I you could you

how you say it right I you could you could say the same words with no

could say the same words with no

could say the same words with no enthusiasm just like you talked about

enthusiasm just like you talked about

enthusiasm just like you talked about the beginning of the show we talked I

the beginning of the show we talked I

the beginning of the show we talked I how great you are leading off the show

how great you are leading off the show

how great you are leading off the show you know you can see those same words

you know you can see those same words

you know you can see those same words and and everybody’s going to tune out

and and everybody’s going to tune out

and and everybody’s going to tune out because it’s not excited but you love

because it’s not excited but you love

because it’s not excited but you love what you’re doing like this is this is

what you’re doing like this is this is

what you’re doing like this is this is what you love doing and that shows and

what you love doing and that shows and

what you love doing and that shows and that brings out quality it brings out

that brings out quality it brings out

that brings out quality it brings out great guest absolutely so let’s talk

great guest absolutely so let’s talk

great guest absolutely so let’s talk about we you know love what you’re doing

about we you know love what you’re doing

about we you know love what you’re doing because you are a big fan of you have to

because you are a big fan of you have to

because you are a big fan of you have to have passion for what you’re doing you

have passion for what you’re doing you

have passion for what you’re doing you can’t just jump into something for the

can’t just jump into something for the

can’t just jump into something for the money or for the fame one of your videos

money or for the fame one of your videos

money or for the fame one of your videos you mentioned I think it was a network

you mentioned I think it was a network

you mentioned I think it was a network marketing video and you mentioned the

marketing video and you mentioned the

marketing video and you mentioned the fact that a lot of people get into that

fact that a lot of people get into that

fact that a lot of people get into that or other similar things because they

or other similar things because they

or other similar things because they they have shiny object syndrome right

they have shiny object syndrome right

they have shiny object syndrome right they just want to do or no no I’m sorry

they just want to do or no no I’m sorry

they just want to do or no no I’m sorry it was the ebay they wanted to start an

it was the ebay they wanted to start an

it was the ebay they wanted to start an eBay business because they wanted to

eBay business because they wanted to

eBay business because they wanted to just buy low sell high make a lot of

just buy low sell high make a lot of

just buy low sell high make a lot of money and you’re really not a fan of

money and you’re really not a fan of

money and you’re really not a fan of that like you have to have some type of

that like you have to have some type of

that like you have to have some type of passion or love for what it is yeah it’s

passion or love for what it is yeah it’s

passion or love for what it is yeah it’s true and I get it you know so many

true and I get it you know so many

true and I get it you know so many people are in such serious financial

people are in such serious financial

people are in such serious financial situations you know you’re in debt you

situations you know you’re in debt you

situations you know you’re in debt you don’t know how you’re gonna pay your

don’t know how you’re gonna pay your

don’t know how you’re gonna pay your bills and so you you’re desperate to

bills and so you you’re desperate to

bills and so you you’re desperate to find something that was gonna make you

find something that was gonna make you

find something that was gonna make you money you know you got to eat you gotta

money you know you got to eat you gotta

money you know you got to eat you gotta pay rent and so you you jump on

pay rent and so you you jump on

pay rent and so you you jump on something and somebody promises you here

something and somebody promises you here

something and somebody promises you here is the way to make money and so you

is the way to make money and so you

is the way to make money and so you start doing it and it’s never it’s never

start doing it and it’s never it’s never

start doing it and it’s never it’s never the right decision if you look at famous

the right decision if you look at famous

the right decision if you look at famous successful entrepreneurs pick anyone

successful entrepreneurs pick anyone

successful entrepreneurs pick anyone pick your favorite famous entrepreneur

pick your favorite famous entrepreneur

pick your favorite famous entrepreneur look at how they got started it was

look at how they got started it was

look at how they got started it was never for the money these

never for the money these

never for the money these guys do not start your business for the

guys do not start your business for the

guys do not start your business for the money they started it to have an impact

money they started it to have an impact

money they started it to have an impact because they’d love what they were doing

because they’d love what they were doing

because they’d love what they were doing they wanted to help people in some

they wanted to help people in some

they wanted to help people in some capacity and that’s why they started

capacity and that’s why they started

capacity and that’s why they started money is a part of it I’m not saying via

money is a part of it I’m not saying via

money is a part of it I’m not saying via charity yeah the money comes from

charity yeah the money comes from

charity yeah the money comes from offering value the more value you give

offering value the more value you give

offering value the more value you give somebody the more they’re gonna pay you

somebody the more they’re gonna pay you

somebody the more they’re gonna pay you but it’s never the main reason you look

but it’s never the main reason you look

but it’s never the main reason you look at the most successful richest people

at the most successful richest people

at the most successful richest people they made a lot of money but it wasn’t

they made a lot of money but it wasn’t

they made a lot of money but it wasn’t their goal to make a ton of money one of

their goal to make a ton of money one of

their goal to make a ton of money one of my favorite examples is George Lucas you

my favorite examples is George Lucas you

my favorite examples is George Lucas you started Lucasfilm made the star wars

started Lucasfilm made the star wars

started Lucasfilm made the star wars franchise Indiana Jones franchise and he

franchise Indiana Jones franchise and he

franchise Indiana Jones franchise and he got into film school and at a time where

got into film school and at a time where

got into film school and at a time where if you went in the film school you

if you went in the film school you

if you went in the film school you basically weren’t making any money like

basically weren’t making any money like

basically weren’t making any money like there were no jobs in the film industry

there were no jobs in the film industry

there were no jobs in the film industry and he decided to go on his own to his

and he decided to go on his own to his

and he decided to go on his own to his own business and for the first six years

own business and for the first six years

own business and for the first six years he had nothing no results failure just

he had nothing no results failure just

he had nothing no results failure just one failure after another for six years

one failure after another for six years

one failure after another for six years that’s a long time by the way could you

that’s a long time by the way could you

that’s a long time by the way could you last right like how many people give up

last right like how many people give up

last right like how many people give up on their dreams too soon you try for

on their dreams too soon you try for

on their dreams too soon you try for three months and they quit Yeah right

three months and they quit Yeah right

three months and they quit Yeah right like six years of nothing total failure

like six years of nothing total failure

like six years of nothing total failure and he kept thinking constantly I don’t

and he kept thinking constantly I don’t

and he kept thinking constantly I don’t know if I’m I like maybe I should go

know if I’m I like maybe I should go

know if I’m I like maybe I should go back to get a job I don’t know if I want

back to get a job I don’t know if I want

back to get a job I don’t know if I want to keep doing this right that’s the the

to keep doing this right that’s the the

to keep doing this right that’s the the biggest misconception amounts

biggest misconception amounts

biggest misconception amounts entrepreneurs is that we never doubt

entrepreneurs is that we never doubt

entrepreneurs is that we never doubt ourselves like every entrepreneur thinks

ourselves like every entrepreneur thinks

ourselves like every entrepreneur thinks that you know they’re not doing a good

that you know they’re not doing a good

that you know they’re not doing a good enough job but we have a crisis of

enough job but we have a crisis of

enough job but we have a crisis of confidence a lot where we think you know

confidence a lot where we think you know

confidence a lot where we think you know maybe I should just go back and get a

maybe I should just go back and get a

maybe I should just go back and get a job because this is really hard when he

job because this is really hard when he

job because this is really hard when he created Star Wars he thought it was too

created Star Wars he thought it was too

created Star Wars he thought it was too wacky for the general public he thought

wacky for the general public he thought

wacky for the general public he thought nobody would watch this but he he just

nobody would watch this but he he just

nobody would watch this but he he just had a passion for it so he built it and

had a passion for it so he built it and

had a passion for it so he built it and so he lasted through all of this all of

so he lasted through all of this all of

so he lasted through all of this all of these all of these failures when it

these all of these failures when it

these all of these failures when it didn’t make any sense to keep going and

didn’t make any sense to keep going and

didn’t make any sense to keep going and what gets you through is that passion

what gets you through is that passion

what gets you through is that passion for your project passion for what you’re

for your project passion for what you’re

for your project passion for what you’re doing that’s the only thing that’s going

doing that’s the only thing that’s going

doing that’s the only thing that’s going to get you through because otherwise

to get you through because otherwise

to get you through because otherwise you’re crazy but you have to be a little

you’re crazy but you have to be a little

you’re crazy but you have to be a little bit crazy to do this because it’s going

bit crazy to do this because it’s going

bit crazy to do this because it’s going to take everything you got to get you

to take everything you got to get you

to take everything you got to get you through and now George Lucas worked over

through and now George Lucas worked over

through and now George Lucas worked over four billion dollars and it’s easy to

four billion dollars and it’s easy to

four billion dollars and it’s easy to say you know you look back on our

say you know you look back on our

say you know you look back on our stories already did this this this this

stories already did this this this this

stories already did this this this this and this whatever but it was hard and he

and this whatever but it was hard and he

and this whatever but it was hard and he struggled and he failed and that’s the

struggled and he failed and that’s the

struggled and he failed and that’s the story for most people most six

story for most people most six

story for most people most six entrepreneurs they have to go through

entrepreneurs they have to go through

entrepreneurs they have to go through this massive period of darkness where

this massive period of darkness where

this massive period of darkness where they don’t know how it’s going to work

they don’t know how it’s going to work

they don’t know how it’s going to work out and they just keep going believing

out and they just keep going believing

out and they just keep going believing that somehow it’s going to work because

that somehow it’s going to work because

that somehow it’s going to work because they love what they’re doing yeah for

they love what they’re doing yeah for

they love what they’re doing yeah for some it may take a year for others and

some it may take a year for others and

some it may take a year for others and may take six years but let’s put this in

may take six years but let’s put this in

may take six years but let’s put this in perspective six years is a very long

perspective six years is a very long

perspective six years is a very long time I I can almost guarantee he

time I I can almost guarantee he

time I I can almost guarantee he probably had thoughts of doubt like

probably had thoughts of doubt like

probably had thoughts of doubt like almost every 10 minutes at some point

almost every 10 minutes at some point

almost every 10 minutes at some point you know in he pushed through it he

you know in he pushed through it he

you know in he pushed through it he broke through it and now he is who he is

broke through it and now he is who he is

broke through it and now he is who he is today but on the grand scale of life I

today but on the grand scale of life I

today but on the grand scale of life I bet you now he probably doesn’t even

bet you now he probably doesn’t even

bet you now he probably doesn’t even remember what it was like to struggle he

remember what it was like to struggle he

remember what it was like to struggle he put in his dues he can now enjoy that

put in his dues he can now enjoy that

put in his dues he can now enjoy that the fruition of of what he does and

the fruition of of what he does and

the fruition of of what he does and everything he’s created so when people

everything he’s created so when people

everything he’s created so when people are are really struggling and it’s been

are are really struggling and it’s been

are are really struggling and it’s been a long time yeah you go through that but

a long time yeah you go through that but

a long time yeah you go through that but once you once you finally hit on that

once you once you finally hit on that

once you once you finally hit on that that thing that that that makes you

that thing that that that makes you

that thing that that that makes you successful and your business is growing

successful and your business is growing

successful and your business is growing down the line it’s not really that bad

down the line it’s not really that bad

down the line it’s not really that bad it’s it’s only a certain period of your

it’s it’s only a certain period of your

it’s it’s only a certain period of your life out of your whole life that you had

life out of your whole life that you had

life out of your whole life that you had to go through that right yeah I mean

to go through that right yeah I mean

to go through that right yeah I mean it’s true I think back I still think

it’s true I think back I still think

it’s true I think back I still think back to the my early days like that 300

back to the my early days like that 300

back to the my early days like that 300 bucks a month that eating beans for

bucks a month that eating beans for

bucks a month that eating beans for lunch every day we celebrated a big win

lunch every day we celebrated a big win

lunch every day we celebrated a big win by going to McDonald’s and getting

by going to McDonald’s and getting

by going to McDonald’s and getting french fries like I had no money that’s

french fries like I had no money that’s

french fries like I had no money that’s still painful and in what’s painful I

still painful and in what’s painful I

still painful and in what’s painful I almost I almost quit that business and

almost I almost quit that business and

almost I almost quit that business and if I did I wouldn’t be here today I

if I did I wouldn’t be here today I

if I did I wouldn’t be here today I remember telling my partner on the phone

remember telling my partner on the phone

remember telling my partner on the phone like I’ve had it I this is enough we’re

like I’ve had it I this is enough we’re

like I’ve had it I this is enough we’re not making any money my talents are not

not making any money my talents are not

not making any money my talents are not being used I deserve better than this

being used I deserve better than this

being used I deserve better than this and I’m done I quit and I hung up the

and I’m done I quit and I hung up the

and I’m done I quit and I hung up the phone and I cried for 20 minutes and my

phone and I cried for 20 minutes and my

phone and I cried for 20 minutes and my mom came up and I don’t even know what I

mom came up and I don’t even know what I

mom came up and I don’t even know what I told her but the next day I got up and I

told her but the next day I got up and I

told her but the next day I got up and I went back to work just that yeah the

went back to work just that yeah the

went back to work just that yeah the reset bunion you just kept kept doing it

reset bunion you just kept kept doing it

reset bunion you just kept kept doing it every day you just reset let me just

every day you just reset let me just

every day you just reset let me just start over I’m here for this and this is

start over I’m here for this and this is

start over I’m here for this and this is what I believe in and this is what I’m

what I believe in and this is what I’m

what I believe in and this is what I’m gonna do yeah and the only thing that

gonna do yeah and the only thing that

gonna do yeah and the only thing that gets you through was your is your

gets you through was your is your

gets you through was your is your passion if you’re in it just for the

passion if you’re in it just for the

passion if you’re in it just for the money

money

money you won’t go through all that they’re

you won’t go through all that they’re

you won’t go through all that they’re gonna quit like it is too hard you you

gonna quit like it is too hard you you

gonna quit like it is too hard you you won’t get all the great things that that

won’t get all the great things that that

won’t get all the great things that that come with the sweat equity I mean I

come with the sweat equity I mean I

come with the sweat equity I mean I almost willing to bet that you

almost willing to bet that you

almost willing to bet that you appreciate in value celebrating at

appreciate in value celebrating at

appreciate in value celebrating at McDonald’s and all those struggles you

McDonald’s and all those struggles you

McDonald’s and all those struggles you went to because you probably learned a

went to because you probably learned a

went to because you probably learned a lot one not only about business but

lot one not only about business but

lot one not only about business but yourself but to you learned about what

yourself but to you learned about what

yourself but to you learned about what works and what doesn’t for that business

works and what doesn’t for that business

works and what doesn’t for that business you can’t effectively get a proper

you can’t effectively get a proper

you can’t effectively get a proper education on your own thing if you don’t

education on your own thing if you don’t

education on your own thing if you don’t go through some of those trials and

go through some of those trials and

go through some of those trials and tribulations am I am I correct yeah yeah

tribulations am I am I correct yeah yeah

tribulations am I am I correct yeah yeah I mean you know what I’m I’m now I’m a

I mean you know what I’m I’m now I’m a

I mean you know what I’m I’m now I’m a little zoned out I’m thinking back that

little zoned out I’m thinking back that

little zoned out I’m thinking back that to my early days and the frustration

to my early days and the frustration

to my early days and the frustration than the end of pain usually painful

than the end of pain usually painful

than the end of pain usually painful period here Chris I you know I am sorry

period here Chris I you know I am sorry

period here Chris I you know I am sorry I didn’t mean to do that but I mean it’s

I didn’t mean to do that but I mean it’s

I didn’t mean to do that but I mean it’s important because your story is

important because your story is

important because your story is extremely inspiring for 12 I’m in a sick

extremely inspiring for 12 I’m in a sick

extremely inspiring for 12 I’m in a sick way happy you just said that because

way happy you just said that because

way happy you just said that because that just grounds the of how much of a

that just grounds the of how much of a

that just grounds the of how much of a great human being that you are you

great human being that you are you

great human being that you are you didn’t blow up and it you know biotech

didn’t blow up and it you know biotech

didn’t blow up and it you know biotech company and I’m gonna help a billion

company and I’m gonna help a billion

company and I’m gonna help a billion people and now a rock star and I know

people and now a rock star and I know

people and now a rock star and I know everything I mean the other if I got

everything I mean the other if I got

everything I mean the other if I got that impression I wouldn’t have had you

that impression I wouldn’t have had you

that impression I wouldn’t have had you on my show you know what i mean but i

on my show you know what i mean but i

on my show you know what i mean but i think a lot of people can learn from

think a lot of people can learn from

think a lot of people can learn from that I hope so I mean that’s the goal

that I hope so I mean that’s the goal

that I hope so I mean that’s the goal absolutely so someone starting a

absolutely so someone starting a

absolutely so someone starting a business right now yeah they they have

business right now yeah they they have

business right now yeah they they have no money yeah a lot of people are in the

no money yeah a lot of people are in the

no money yeah a lot of people are in the entrepreneur space are very DIY they

entrepreneur space are very DIY they

entrepreneur space are very DIY they they don’t want to release whatever

they don’t want to release whatever

they don’t want to release whatever thing it is from those talons of theirs

thing it is from those talons of theirs

thing it is from those talons of theirs because they’re afraid that it’s going

because they’re afraid that it’s going

because they’re afraid that it’s going to cost too much no one could do it

to cost too much no one could do it

to cost too much no one could do it better than me you know I I have to do

better than me you know I I have to do

better than me you know I I have to do this myself no one knows how to do this

this myself no one knows how to do this

this myself no one knows how to do this but me and that is the biggest

but me and that is the biggest

but me and that is the biggest misconception that you portray and I

misconception that you portray and I

misconception that you portray and I actually agree with I mean someone right

actually agree with I mean someone right

actually agree with I mean someone right now they can start a business with with

now they can start a business with with

now they can start a business with with no money and delegate and still be

no money and delegate and still be

no money and delegate and still be successful correct yeah yeah i’ma get

successful correct yeah yeah i’ma get

successful correct yeah yeah i’ma get it’s you know you don’t want to spend

it’s you know you don’t want to spend

it’s you know you don’t want to spend money but the first person I hired you

money but the first person I hired you

money but the first person I hired you talk about delegation the first person I

talk about delegation the first person I

talk about delegation the first person I hired was for one hour a day uh huh uh

hired was for one hour a day uh huh uh

hired was for one hour a day uh huh uh and I was so sick of doing this database

and I was so sick of doing this database

and I was so sick of doing this database entry stuff that was not what I was good

entry stuff that was not what I was good

entry stuff that was not what I was good at and didn’t help grow my business and

at and didn’t help grow my business and

at and didn’t help grow my business and so I hired a guy for an hour day what

so I hired a guy for an hour day what

so I hired a guy for an hour day what you got way more done than I could in

you got way more done than I could in

you got way more done than I could in that hour and it just freed up an hour

that hour and it just freed up an hour

that hour and it just freed up an hour of my day to do something that was

of my day to do something that was

of my day to do something that was helping me grow my business you cannot

helping me grow my business you cannot

helping me grow my business you cannot do everything yourself you can’t like

do everything yourself you can’t like

do everything yourself you can’t like you’re good at some things that’s what

you’re good at some things that’s what

you’re good at some things that’s what you need to focus on if you try to be

you need to focus on if you try to be

you need to focus on if you try to be everything then you’re never gonna build

everything then you’re never gonna build

everything then you’re never gonna build a great business and so on doesn’t mean

a great business and so on doesn’t mean

a great business and so on doesn’t mean this still impacts me today I hate doing

this still impacts me today I hate doing

this still impacts me today I hate doing things that I’m not good at and are not

things that I’m not good at and are not

things that I’m not good at and are not helping me grow my company on my walk

helping me grow my company on my walk

helping me grow my company on my walk into the office every day I say to

into the office every day I say to

into the office every day I say to myself what’s the thing that I can do

myself what’s the thing that I can do

myself what’s the thing that I can do today is gonna add the most value to my

today is gonna add the most value to my

today is gonna add the most value to my business and then I try to go and do

business and then I try to go and do

business and then I try to go and do that yeah you want you want that time

that yeah you want you want that time

that yeah you want you want that time freed up for you to focus on what you’re

freed up for you to focus on what you’re

freed up for you to focus on what you’re truly good at and truly passionate about

truly good at and truly passionate about

truly good at and truly passionate about right yeah I call it CEO time I like

right yeah I call it CEO time I like

right yeah I call it CEO time I like that you have to block out CEO time

that you have to block out CEO time

that you have to block out CEO time hopefully every day but you know for

hopefully every day but you know for

hopefully every day but you know for those of us who are crazy busy and

those of us who are crazy busy and

those of us who are crazy busy and haven’t figured anything out yet start

haven’t figured anything out yet start

haven’t figured anything out yet start with once a week like CEO Tom this is

with once a week like CEO Tom this is

with once a week like CEO Tom this is time to focus on building your business

time to focus on building your business

time to focus on building your business projects you’re the CEO of your company

projects you’re the CEO of your company

projects you’re the CEO of your company you got to start acting like it and not

you got to start acting like it and not

you got to start acting like it and not just be everything from the salesman

just be everything from the salesman

just be everything from the salesman down to the janitor you got to carve it

down to the janitor you got to carve it

down to the janitor you got to carve it out carve out that time you know monday

out carve out that time you know monday

out carve out that time you know monday afternoons tuesday mornings whatever it

afternoons tuesday mornings whatever it

afternoons tuesday mornings whatever it is CEO time yeah i mean look at every

is CEO time yeah i mean look at every

is CEO time yeah i mean look at every successful entrepreneur they’re not a

successful entrepreneur they’re not a

successful entrepreneur they’re not a one-man show or one-woman show they have

one-man show or one-woman show they have

one-man show or one-woman show they have people help them so going back to the no

people help them so going back to the no

people help them so going back to the no money thing now a lot of people think

money thing now a lot of people think

money thing now a lot of people think that they need to have all this huge

that they need to have all this huge

that they need to have all this huge reserves of cash to start their product

reserves of cash to start their product

reserves of cash to start their product or their online business I mean that’s

or their online business I mean that’s

or their online business I mean that’s not necessarily the case you probably

not necessarily the case you probably

not necessarily the case you probably have seen countless amount of people who

have seen countless amount of people who

have seen countless amount of people who started from nothing and didn’t have

started from nothing and didn’t have

started from nothing and didn’t have that money but they also didn’t let that

that money but they also didn’t let that

that money but they also didn’t let that hinder their business either yeah you

hinder their business either yeah you

hinder their business either yeah you know most entrepreneurs don’t have that

know most entrepreneurs don’t have that

know most entrepreneurs don’t have that rich uncle to fund their company ID

rich uncle to fund their company ID

rich uncle to fund their company ID have that I certainly didn’t have that

have that I certainly didn’t have that

have that I certainly didn’t have that if that’s you then that’s awesome but

if that’s you then that’s awesome but

if that’s you then that’s awesome but you know I don’t know what advice to

you know I don’t know what advice to

you know I don’t know what advice to give you because you’re in a great

give you because you’re in a great

give you because you’re in a great situation I was i come from the

situation I was i come from the

situation I was i come from the struggling to get by can barely survive

struggling to get by can barely survive

struggling to get by can barely survive camp I think the most important thing

camp I think the most important thing

camp I think the most important thing when you’re first getting started is you

when you’re first getting started is you

when you’re first getting started is you need to figure out how to get to

need to figure out how to get to

need to figure out how to get to survival survival means you have enough

survival survival means you have enough

survival survival means you have enough money to pay your bills to eat to pay

money to pay your bills to eat to pay

money to pay your bills to eat to pay your electricity it’s not a glamorous

your electricity it’s not a glamorous

your electricity it’s not a glamorous lifestyle but it survived one it means

lifestyle but it survived one it means

lifestyle but it survived one it means you don’t have to go back and get a job

you don’t have to go back and get a job

you don’t have to go back and get a job so how do you get there and I want you

so how do you get there and I want you

so how do you get there and I want you know entrepreneurs to think about your

know entrepreneurs to think about your

know entrepreneurs to think about your big vision your big picture how I’m

big vision your big picture how I’m

big vision your big picture how I’m going to change the world that’s amazing

going to change the world that’s amazing

going to change the world that’s amazing but how do you get to survival at the

but how do you get to survival at the

but how do you get to survival at the start what’s the fastest path together

start what’s the fastest path together

start what’s the fastest path together to survival and that may even mean

to survival and that may even mean

to survival and that may even mean having a job but I’m not it from the

having a job but I’m not it from the

having a job but I’m not it from the camp where you have to quit everything

camp where you have to quit everything

camp where you have to quit everything and jump in and do your business full

and jump in and do your business full

and jump in and do your business full time because you have limited runway if

time because you have limited runway if

time because you have limited runway if you run out of funds you know three

you run out of funds you know three

you run out of funds you know three months in you lose Aldo mentum with your

months in you lose Aldo mentum with your

months in you lose Aldo mentum with your business and go get a job I’m okay if

business and go get a job I’m okay if

business and go get a job I’m okay if you’re doing it part time I think though

you’re doing it part time I think though

you’re doing it part time I think though if you’re going to take a job the reason

if you’re going to take a job the reason

if you’re going to take a job the reason to take a job is to learn so whatever

to take a job is to learn so whatever

to take a job is to learn so whatever business that you’re trying to start up

business that you’re trying to start up

business that you’re trying to start up and if you’re trying to start a magazine

and if you’re trying to start a magazine

and if you’re trying to start a magazine go work for a magazine what are you

go work for a magazine what are you

go work for a magazine what are you doing driving a truck go work for a

doing driving a truck go work for a

doing driving a truck go work for a magazine like find the company that has

magazine like find the company that has

magazine like find the company that has you know ten employees a small business

you know ten employees a small business

you know ten employees a small business and and get a job there and learn the

and and get a job there and learn the

and and get a job there and learn the ropes and learn the business and make

ropes and learn the business and make

ropes and learn the business and make your mistakes while getting paid by

your mistakes while getting paid by

your mistakes while getting paid by somebody else yeah and in your off hours

somebody else yeah and in your off hours

somebody else yeah and in your off hours start your own business and you’re

start your own business and you’re

start your own business and you’re making contacts and you’re you’re

making contacts and you’re you’re

making contacts and you’re you’re developing your skills and getting the

developing your skills and getting the

developing your skills and getting the training while getting paid you’re

training while getting paid you’re

training while getting paid you’re getting paid to learn about your

getting paid to learn about your

getting paid to learn about your business it’s a beautiful concept yeah

business it’s a beautiful concept yeah

business it’s a beautiful concept yeah and then and then when when you launch

and then and then when when you launch

and then and then when when you launch your company you know you really have a

your company you know you really have a

your company you know you really have a little bit of fun since you started on

little bit of fun since you started on

little bit of fun since you started on the side and build that up because what

the side and build that up because what

the side and build that up because what can happen is if you just start up and

can happen is if you just start up and

can happen is if you just start up and you’re out of the money you go back get

you’re out of the money you go back get

you’re out of the money you go back get a job you’ve lost all the momentum that

a job you’ve lost all the momentum that

a job you’ve lost all the momentum that you’ve built up so you know I love

you’ve built up so you know I love

you’ve built up so you know I love entrepreneurship but yeah like sometimes

entrepreneurship but yeah like sometimes

entrepreneurship but yeah like sometimes the path is getting the job that

the path is getting the job that

the path is getting the job that supports it and then that helps you

supports it and then that helps you

supports it and then that helps you transition to be a full-time

transition to be a full-time

transition to be a full-time entrepreneur now for a lot of those

entrepreneur now for a lot of those

entrepreneur now for a lot of those people who are in the thick of it

people who are in the thick of it

people who are in the thick of it another key thing to to focus on is like

another key thing to to focus on is like

another key thing to to focus on is like me time it’s it’s that work-life balance

me time it’s it’s that work-life balance

me time it’s it’s that work-life balance what you talked about a lot I mean one

what you talked about a lot I mean one

what you talked about a lot I mean one of your videos was don’t forget to eat

of your videos was don’t forget to eat

of your videos was don’t forget to eat yeah and people forget these things

yeah and people forget these things

yeah and people forget these things though I mean lunch it’s almost two

though I mean lunch it’s almost two

though I mean lunch it’s almost two o’clock here I have any I know I forget

o’clock here I have any I know I forget

o’clock here I have any I know I forget it too I talked two days no it’s true um

it too I talked two days no it’s true um

it too I talked two days no it’s true um you know I think this also depends on

you know I think this also depends on

you know I think this also depends on your situation your frameless situation

your situation your frameless situation

your situation your frameless situation now being being a father uh there’s a

now being being a father uh there’s a

now being being a father uh there’s a lot more demands on my time than before

lot more demands on my time than before

lot more demands on my time than before uh and I like to have clearly defined

uh and I like to have clearly defined

uh and I like to have clearly defined lines between my work in my life and I

lines between my work in my life and I

lines between my work in my life and I set out my guy I have a very scheduled

set out my guy I have a very scheduled

set out my guy I have a very scheduled day and I’ll chunk my time and say okay

day and I’ll chunk my time and say okay

day and I’ll chunk my time and say okay this is my CEO time this is this is my

this is my CEO time this is this is my

this is my CEO time this is this is my interview with Chris time this is right

interview with Chris time this is right

interview with Chris time this is right I’ll have it all blocked out and then

I’ll have it all blocked out and then

I’ll have it all blocked out and then when I have a family time I I do totally

when I have a family time I I do totally

when I have a family time I I do totally disconnect right yeah yeah yeah I’m not

disconnect right yeah yeah yeah I’m not

disconnect right yeah yeah yeah I’m not I mean I’m i think as entrepreneurs I

I mean I’m i think as entrepreneurs I

I mean I’m i think as entrepreneurs I don’t you can absolutely totally

don’t you can absolutely totally

don’t you can absolutely totally disconnected I’m always coming up with

disconnected I’m always coming up with

disconnected I’m always coming up with ideas for my business I’m sure we all

ideas for my business I’m sure we all

ideas for my business I’m sure we all are you noodle something you see how a

are you noodle something you see how a

are you noodle something you see how a retail stores operating and you see a

retail stores operating and you see a

retail stores operating and you see a commercial on TV and you get an idea

commercial on TV and you get an idea

commercial on TV and you get an idea I’ll just not myself yeah right because

I’ll just not myself yeah right because

I’ll just not myself yeah right because I don’t want to be up all night thinking

I don’t want to be up all night thinking

I don’t want to be up all night thinking about this idea and I don’t want to

about this idea and I don’t want to

about this idea and I don’t want to forget this tomorrow so just email

forget this tomorrow so just email

forget this tomorrow so just email myself and it’s out of my head but you

myself and it’s out of my head but you

myself and it’s out of my head but you know I make the family time as important

know I make the family time as important

know I make the family time as important as my business time as well didn’t you

as my business time as well didn’t you

as my business time as well didn’t you just recently within the past couple

just recently within the past couple

just recently within the past couple months get a new place a new look like a

months get a new place a new look like a

months get a new place a new look like a new condo yeah i got a new condo

new condo yeah i got a new condo

new condo yeah i got a new condo congratulations by the way the thing a

congratulations by the way the thing a

congratulations by the way the thing a beautiful go on youtube check it out

beautiful go on youtube check it out

beautiful go on youtube check it out nice hardwood floors and one of the

nice hardwood floors and one of the

nice hardwood floors and one of the greatest views I’ve ever seen it’s fun

greatest views I’ve ever seen it’s fun

greatest views I’ve ever seen it’s fun yeah you know I uh I went from so after

yeah you know I uh I went from so after

yeah you know I uh I went from so after I sold my business i decided i wanted to

I sold my business i decided i wanted to

I sold my business i decided i wanted to build a house and i built a house from

build a house and i built a house from

build a house and i built a house from scratch and it was 5,000 square feet and

scratch and it was 5,000 square feet and

scratch and it was 5,000 square feet and gorgeous modern interior and just I

gorgeous modern interior and just I

gorgeous modern interior and just I realized that the maintenance on this is

realized that the maintenance on this is

realized that the maintenance on this is ridiculous I’m a low maintenance guy and

ridiculous I’m a low maintenance guy and

ridiculous I’m a low maintenance guy and way too much space or what I needed so I

way too much space or what I needed so I

way too much space or what I needed so I sold it and moved into a condo where I

sold it and moved into a condo where I

sold it and moved into a condo where I don’t have to do anything so I’d like I

don’t have to do anything so I’d like I

don’t have to do anything so I’d like I had an apartment and then I had a

had an apartment and then I had a

had an apartment and then I had a townhouse i bought a townhouse then I

townhouse i bought a townhouse then I

townhouse i bought a townhouse then I built a huge monster home and then I

built a huge monster home and then I

built a huge monster home and then I sold that and now I’m back into a condo

sold that and now I’m back into a condo

sold that and now I’m back into a condo well the word that the reason why I

well the word that the reason why I

well the word that the reason why I bring that up is because you want I mean

bring that up is because you want I mean

bring that up is because you want I mean work-life balance you want time to enjoy

work-life balance you want time to enjoy

work-life balance you want time to enjoy your new place you want to pick out

your new place you want to pick out

your new place you want to pick out furniture and you know hang stuff on the

furniture and you know hang stuff on the

furniture and you know hang stuff on the wall and just be involved I mean it’s

wall and just be involved I mean it’s

wall and just be involved I mean it’s really tough to pull away but at the

really tough to pull away but at the

really tough to pull away but at the same time like doing certain things like

same time like doing certain things like

same time like doing certain things like I don’t know maybe it was buying a new

I don’t know maybe it was buying a new

I don’t know maybe it was buying a new TV for your place or a rug like that

TV for your place or a rug like that

TV for your place or a rug like that kind of stuff gets you invigorated you

kind of stuff gets you invigorated you

kind of stuff gets you invigorated you know it makes you more creative so when

know it makes you more creative so when

know it makes you more creative so when you do go back to work you’re your

you do go back to work you’re your

you do go back to work you’re your hundred-percent self do you notice that

hundred-percent self do you notice that

hundred-percent self do you notice that yeah and I think I think having hobbies

yeah and I think I think having hobbies

yeah and I think I think having hobbies and having other things outside of work

and having other things outside of work

and having other things outside of work will it gives you the creative time and

will it gives you the creative time and

will it gives you the creative time and it also gives you ideas for what to do

it also gives you ideas for what to do

it also gives you ideas for what to do with your business you know I rarely get

with your business you know I rarely get

with your business you know I rarely get great business ideas when I’m in my

great business ideas when I’m in my

great business ideas when I’m in my office pounding away on work it doesn’t

office pounding away on work it doesn’t

office pounding away on work it doesn’t want to get my ideas it’s when I’m in

want to get my ideas it’s when I’m in

want to get my ideas it’s when I’m in the shower it’s when I’m salsa dancing

the shower it’s when I’m salsa dancing

the shower it’s when I’m salsa dancing it’s when I’m out on the street like

it’s when I’m out on the street like

it’s when I’m out on the street like having that free time that’s when i get

having that free time that’s when i get

having that free time that’s when i get my ideas and so opening up space to

my ideas and so opening up space to

my ideas and so opening up space to allow you to you know have that

allow you to you know have that

allow you to you know have that creativity is important absolutely now

creativity is important absolutely now

creativity is important absolutely now the future mmm 2014 and beyond I mean

the future mmm 2014 and beyond I mean

the future mmm 2014 and beyond I mean what kind of stuff is is getting you

what kind of stuff is is getting you

what kind of stuff is is getting you excited these days I mean we’re kind of

excited these days I mean we’re kind of

excited these days I mean we’re kind of almost up on our time here but I want to

almost up on our time here but I want to

almost up on our time here but I want to know like what what’s getting you fired

know like what what’s getting you fired

know like what what’s getting you fired up these days what’s something that

up these days what’s something that

up these days what’s something that you’re looking forward to well yeah so

you’re looking forward to well yeah so

you’re looking forward to well yeah so my goals out the billion entrepreneurs

my goals out the billion entrepreneurs

my goals out the billion entrepreneurs that’s kind of my driving force I’m

that’s kind of my driving force I’m

that’s kind of my driving force I’m spending a lot of my time on YouTube the

spending a lot of my time on YouTube the

spending a lot of my time on YouTube the best part of my day is waking up every

best part of my day is waking up every

best part of my day is waking up every day I pull up my lentils I start eating

day I pull up my lentils I start eating

day I pull up my lentils I start eating breakfast and I load up my comments on

breakfast and I load up my comments on

breakfast and I load up my comments on YouTube and it’s like 40 or 50 comments

YouTube and it’s like 40 or 50 comments

YouTube and it’s like 40 or 50 comments a day and just seeing how people have

a day and just seeing how people have

a day and just seeing how people have enjoyed the videos and their lives are

enjoyed the videos and their lives are

enjoyed the videos and their lives are being changed that’s that’s what I love

being changed that’s that’s what I love

being changed that’s that’s what I love doing so I’m spending a lot of time and

doing so I’m spending a lot of time and

doing so I’m spending a lot of time and effort on my youtube page new projects

effort on my youtube page new projects

effort on my youtube page new projects that are coming up i’m working on a

that are coming up i’m working on a

that are coming up i’m working on a t-shirt line i’m working on a book deal

t-shirt line i’m working on a book deal

t-shirt line i’m working on a book deal working on a TV deal um you know what

working on a TV deal um you know what

working on a TV deal um you know what it’s hard to say i’m not the here’s

it’s hard to say i’m not the here’s

it’s hard to say i’m not the here’s where I’m gonna be in five years look

where I’m gonna be in five years look

where I’m gonna be in five years look how that worked out for me in high

how that worked out for me in high

how that worked out for me in high school yeah I don’t know like and it’s

school yeah I don’t know like and it’s

school yeah I don’t know like and it’s okay not to know I’m continually

okay not to know I’m continually

okay not to know I’m continually following things that I’m passionate

following things that I’m passionate

following things that I’m passionate about in my biz

about in my biz

about in my biz is always going to be a reflection of

is always going to be a reflection of

is always going to be a reflection of what I’m into at the moment so well it

what I’m into at the moment so well it

what I’m into at the moment so well it sounds like that what you just said

sounds like that what you just said

sounds like that what you just said right there is what you’re excited about

right there is what you’re excited about

right there is what you’re excited about it’s the excitement of the unknown it’s

it’s the excitement of the unknown it’s

it’s the excitement of the unknown it’s the excitement of what else could I

the excitement of what else could I

the excitement of what else could I learn in you know what else can I go

learn in you know what else can I go

learn in you know what else can I go into on my current passions and where

into on my current passions and where

into on my current passions and where that’s going to take me who knows but

that’s going to take me who knows but

that’s going to take me who knows but just the fact that I know that I can

just the fact that I know that I can

just the fact that I know that I can pursue it and learn is just exciting

pursue it and learn is just exciting

pursue it and learn is just exciting enough is that kind of where you’re at

enough is that kind of where you’re at

enough is that kind of where you’re at yeah I end up in short-term projects so

yeah I end up in short-term projects so

yeah I end up in short-term projects so like I have burst I know what I’m gonna

like I have burst I know what I’m gonna

like I have burst I know what I’m gonna do for the next six months for next year

do for the next six months for next year

do for the next six months for next year uh-huh beyond that I don’t know what’s

uh-huh beyond that I don’t know what’s

uh-huh beyond that I don’t know what’s happening that’s awesome so go on his

happening that’s awesome so go on his

happening that’s awesome so go on his website Evan Carmichael calm like I said

website Evan Carmichael calm like I said

website Evan Carmichael calm like I said wealth of knowledge there’s so many

wealth of knowledge there’s so many

wealth of knowledge there’s so many different i was playing around with it

different i was playing around with it

different i was playing around with it over the the weekend just kind of doing

over the the weekend just kind of doing

over the the weekend just kind of doing my homework for this show but i ended up

my homework for this show but i ended up

my homework for this show but i ended up getting sucked into reading about stuff

getting sucked into reading about stuff

getting sucked into reading about stuff for my own business definitely go to his

for my own business definitely go to his

for my own business definitely go to his YouTube channel I mean you’ll hear tons

YouTube channel I mean you’ll hear tons

YouTube channel I mean you’ll hear tons of great tips tons of great stuff to do

of great tips tons of great stuff to do

of great tips tons of great stuff to do for your business but you’ll also see

for your business but you’ll also see

for your business but you’ll also see some fun stuff you’ll see the tour of

some fun stuff you’ll see the tour of

some fun stuff you’ll see the tour of his new place that we just talked about

his new place that we just talked about

his new place that we just talked about you’ll find out why it’s so important

you’ll find out why it’s so important

you’ll find out why it’s so important that you need to eat which if I were you

that you need to eat which if I were you

that you need to eat which if I were you I’d eat after this interview by the way

I’d eat after this interview by the way

I’d eat after this interview by the way so definitely check all that out Evan I

so definitely check all that out Evan I

so definitely check all that out Evan I I just had a great time thank you so so

I just had a great time thank you so so

I just had a great time thank you so so much thanks chris has been a lot of fun

much thanks chris has been a lot of fun

much thanks chris has been a lot of fun and to find out more i know i just

and to find out more i know i just

and to find out more i know i just plugged it but i’m going to say it again

plugged it but i’m going to say it again

plugged it but i’m going to say it again Evan Carmichael calm and that’s it take

Evan Carmichael calm and that’s it take

Evan Carmichael calm and that’s it take care

such an amazing guest a great chat it

such an amazing guest a great chat it was inspiring his entertaining it was

was inspiring his entertaining it was

was inspiring his entertaining it was education via audio all those things at

education via audio all those things at

education via audio all those things at least it was for me Thank You mr. Evan

least it was for me Thank You mr. Evan

least it was for me Thank You mr. Evan Carmichael for such a wonderful episode

Carmichael for such a wonderful episode

Carmichael for such a wonderful episode now do not forget I am giving away the

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can give you credit anyway that’s all i have thank you so much for listening and

have thank you so much for listening and

have thank you so much for listening and i will talk to you guys later

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