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we’ve already done and break it down
we’ve already done and break it down entry by entry to talk about each one
entry by entry to talk about each one
entry by entry to talk about each one and give you a little insight into our
and give you a little insight into our
and give you a little insight into our thought process around here today’s list
thought process around here today’s list
thought process around here today’s list is the top 10 disappointing games of
is the top 10 disappointing games of
is the top 10 disappointing games of 2017 so let’s take a look at the
2017 so let’s take a look at the
2017 so let’s take a look at the original ranking all right so welcome to
original ranking all right so welcome to
original ranking all right so welcome to deconstructed let’s take a quick look at
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our panel today with me is Ricky the new
our panel today with me is Ricky the new guy it’s up and Andrew who’s no longer
guy it’s up and Andrew who’s no longer
guy it’s up and Andrew who’s no longer the new guy by default there we go these
the new guy by default there we go these
the new guy by default there we go these guys both work in the video game
guys both work in the video game
guys both work in the video game department with us so most of your age
department with us so most of your age
department with us so most of your age is directed at at least one of us
is directed at at least one of us
is directed at at least one of us indirectly yeah yeah mostly this guy
indirectly yeah yeah mostly this guy
indirectly yeah yeah mostly this guy anyway uh let’s jump right into it
anyway uh let’s jump right into it
anyway uh let’s jump right into it Friday the 13th the game not the old one
Friday the 13th the game not the old one
Friday the 13th the game not the old one the new one because this is 2017 and
the new one because this is 2017 and
the new one because this is 2017 and that’s we’re talking about broken broken
that’s we’re talking about broken broken
that’s we’re talking about broken broken it’s so like the Melissa for example if
it’s so like the Melissa for example if
it’s so like the Melissa for example if we’re not talking about worst games for
we’re not talking about worst games for
we’re not talking about worst games for 2017 we’re talking about disappointing
2017 we’re talking about disappointing
2017 we’re talking about disappointing disappoint and this game was just too
disappoint and this game was just too
disappoint and this game was just too ambitious for such a small indie team
ambitious for such a small indie team
ambitious for such a small indie team because it needed to be a horror
because it needed to be a horror
because it needed to be a horror multiplayer game and that’s just
multiplayer game and that’s just
multiplayer game and that’s just something that you can’t do because your
something that you can’t do because your
something that you can’t do because your community is just gonna mess that up and
community is just gonna mess that up and
community is just gonna mess that up and not take us seriously no no like listen
not take us seriously no no like listen
not take us seriously no no like listen they okay people will always try to mess
they okay people will always try to mess
they okay people will always try to mess with your game that’s that’s a fact and
with your game that’s that’s a fact and
with your game that’s that’s a fact and but listen dead by daylight exists
but listen dead by daylight exists
but listen dead by daylight exists that’s a game that works very similar to
that’s a game that works very similar to
that’s a game that works very similar to this actually in terms of how it flows
this actually in terms of how it flows
this actually in terms of how it flows and stuff and that’s by a pretty small
and stuff and that’s by a pretty small
and stuff and that’s by a pretty small development team – if I’m not mistaken I
development team – if I’m not mistaken I
development team – if I’m not mistaken I just think it’s more like okay this game
just think it’s more like okay this game
just think it’s more like okay this game had a shadow to come out from under
had a shadow to come out from under
had a shadow to come out from under because it was another Friday the 13th
because it was another Friday the 13th
because it was another Friday the 13th game and it’s a licensed game you know
game and it’s a licensed game you know
game and it’s a licensed game you know Friday the 13th for NES obviously one of
Friday the 13th for NES obviously one of
Friday the 13th for NES obviously one of the most ridiculed games of all time we
the most ridiculed games of all time we
the most ridiculed games of all time we were just trying to play it at launch
were just trying to play it at launch
were just trying to play it at launch though and it was buggy like it was
though and it was buggy like it was
though and it was buggy like it was buggy and the server’s didn’t work yeah
buggy and the server’s didn’t work yeah
buggy and the server’s didn’t work yeah it was just it was underwhelming to say
it was just it was underwhelming to say
it was just it was underwhelming to say the least
the least
the least just the animation were crap it looked
just the animation were crap it looked
just the animation were crap it looked just jagged and
just jagged and
just jagged and didn’t flow at all and remember guys we
didn’t flow at all and remember guys we
didn’t flow at all and remember guys we are talking about disappointing we’re
are talking about disappointing we’re
are talking about disappointing we’re not gonna totally drag these no because
not gonna totally drag these no because
not gonna totally drag these no because you know it’s it’s a lot of fun to play
you know it’s it’s a lot of fun to play
you know it’s it’s a lot of fun to play and it’s a lot of fun to watch and it’s
and it’s a lot of fun to watch and it’s
and it’s a lot of fun to watch and it’s a great game for streamers it’s just it
a great game for streamers it’s just it
a great game for streamers it’s just it could have been more than just a
could have been more than just a
could have been more than just a sideshow yeah it’s a sideshow that’s a
sideshow yeah it’s a sideshow that’s a
sideshow yeah it’s a sideshow that’s a fun distraction see this is what okay I
fun distraction see this is what okay I
fun distraction see this is what okay I got the sense that this game was like
got the sense that this game was like
got the sense that this game was like the second wave of games that have been
the second wave of games that have been
the second wave of games that have been made with let’s players in mind like we
made with let’s players in mind like we
made with let’s players in mind like we had like last year in the year before we
had like last year in the year before we
had like last year in the year before we had like you know the surgeon simulators
had like you know the surgeon simulators
had like you know the surgeon simulators and what else we had like Octodad and
and what else we had like Octodad and
and what else we had like Octodad and stuff like that which is clearly made
stuff like that which is clearly made
stuff like that which is clearly made with those streamers and minds scream
with those streamers and minds scream
with those streamers and minds scream streamers if you want to call them that
streamers if you want to call them that
streamers if you want to call them that so I feel like this is the next wave of
so I feel like this is the next wave of
so I feel like this is the next wave of that type of game and in that sense I
that type of game and in that sense I
that type of game and in that sense I think it kind of succeeded because like
think it kind of succeeded because like
think it kind of succeeded because like I think it got like a lot of like a lot
I think it got like a lot of like a lot
I think it got like a lot of like a lot of press that way I wanted to read one
of press that way I wanted to read one
of press that way I wanted to read one cool comment not the least not the least
cool comment not the least not the least
cool comment not the least not the least because he’s got a pretty sweet name
because he’s got a pretty sweet name
because he’s got a pretty sweet name Curt cocaine says yeah wait Friday the
Curt cocaine says yeah wait Friday the
Curt cocaine says yeah wait Friday the 13th the game is disappointing because
13th the game is disappointing because
13th the game is disappointing because of bugs is there anything else you’d
of bugs is there anything else you’d
of bugs is there anything else you’d like to complain about
like to complain about
like to complain about perhaps the repetitive nature of the
perhaps the repetitive nature of the
perhaps the repetitive nature of the game the lack of game modes and maps I’m
game the lack of game modes and maps I’m
game the lack of game modes and maps I’m a fan and I’ve been addicted to playing
a fan and I’ve been addicted to playing
a fan and I’ve been addicted to playing it since it launched and even I can
it since it launched and even I can
it since it launched and even I can contribute something to this video while
contribute something to this video while
contribute something to this video while making your selection worthwhile video
making your selection worthwhile video
making your selection worthwhile video feels sort of lazy okay
feels sort of lazy okay
feels sort of lazy okay criticism taken this is actually a
criticism taken this is actually a
criticism taken this is actually a relatively good comment yeah yeah it’s
relatively good comment yeah yeah it’s
relatively good comment yeah yeah it’s hard to find these companies this is
hard to find these companies this is
hard to find these companies this is actual constructive criticism of our
actual constructive criticism of our
actual constructive criticism of our entry so I’m not actually going to
entry so I’m not actually going to
entry so I’m not actually going to refute it Thank You Curt cocaine for
refute it Thank You Curt cocaine for
refute it Thank You Curt cocaine for Thank You Curt criticism okay let’s go
Thank You Curt criticism okay let’s go
Thank You Curt criticism okay let’s go on to number nine
on to number nine
on to number nine Valkyria toward evolution which is not
Valkyria toward evolution which is not
Valkyria toward evolution which is not related to the how they talking to game
related to the how they talking to game
related to the how they talking to game at all no revolution yeah at all
at all no revolution yeah at all
at all no revolution yeah at all actually I mean it’s it’s a it’s
actually I mean it’s it’s a it’s
actually I mean it’s it’s a it’s separate from the other Valkyria titles
separate from the other Valkyria titles
separate from the other Valkyria titles in the timeline and the way it’s
in the timeline and the way it’s
in the timeline and the way it’s presented but it’s the cutscenes or
presented but it’s the cutscenes or
presented but it’s the cutscenes or 15-minute cutscenes back of the head
15-minute cutscenes back of the head
15-minute cutscenes back of the head also they don’t have to animate the
also they don’t have to animate the
also they don’t have to animate the mouth yeah exactly they skipped out on
mouth yeah exactly they skipped out on
mouth yeah exactly they skipped out on that and you don’t want to be watching
that and you don’t want to be watching
that and you don’t want to be watching 15 minutes of some anime girl’s head and
15 minutes of some anime girl’s head and
15 minutes of some anime girl’s head and if you skip them you missed the whole
if you skip them you missed the whole
if you skip them you missed the whole story so you can’t even fast forward so
story so you can’t even fast forward so
story so you can’t even fast forward so there’s that and then there’s the just
there’s that and then there’s the just
there’s that and then there’s the just the gameplay it’s generic yeah it’s
the gameplay it’s generic yeah it’s
the gameplay it’s generic yeah it’s it’s a pet of hack-and-slash I mean it
it’s a pet of hack-and-slash I mean it
it’s a pet of hack-and-slash I mean it doesn’t feel like there’s any strategy
doesn’t feel like there’s any strategy
doesn’t feel like there’s any strategy behind it and that’s like pretty much
behind it and that’s like pretty much
behind it and that’s like pretty much all Valkyria chronicles had going for it
all Valkyria chronicles had going for it
all Valkyria chronicles had going for it right like I mean yeah the original
right like I mean yeah the original
right like I mean yeah the original series like I’m a big fan of the
series like I’m a big fan of the
series like I’m a big fan of the turn-based strategy slash RPGs like Fire
turn-based strategy slash RPGs like Fire
turn-based strategy slash RPGs like Fire Emblem XCOM recently divinity original
Emblem XCOM recently divinity original
Emblem XCOM recently divinity original sin yeah my favorite this year for sure
sin yeah my favorite this year for sure
sin yeah my favorite this year for sure so I think it’s a shame that this game
so I think it’s a shame that this game
so I think it’s a shame that this game wasn’t in that vein I know I’m assuming
wasn’t in that vein I know I’m assuming
wasn’t in that vein I know I’m assuming executives speak says that you that
executives speak says that you that
executives speak says that you that those games don’t sell and like they’re
those games don’t sell and like they’re
those games don’t sell and like they’re hoping to hit like a larger market which
hoping to hit like a larger market which
hoping to hit like a larger market which is I think a problem with just
is I think a problem with just
is I think a problem with just franchises but you’re an isolating
franchises but you’re an isolating
franchises but you’re an isolating you’re yeah it’s an base so at what
you’re yeah it’s an base so at what
you’re yeah it’s an base so at what costs yeah it’s it’s trying to clearly
costs yeah it’s it’s trying to clearly
costs yeah it’s it’s trying to clearly expand the fan base but I think they
expand the fan base but I think they
expand the fan base but I think they just diminished it unfortunately yeah
just diminished it unfortunately yeah
just diminished it unfortunately yeah yeah they took the name and they dragged
yeah they took the name and they dragged
yeah they took the name and they dragged a little bit through the mud not a lot
a little bit through the mud not a lot
a little bit through the mud not a lot of comments about that one I guess
of comments about that one I guess
of comments about that one I guess people thought many people were as
people thought many people were as
people thought many people were as disappointed as we were I guess they
disappointed as we were I guess they
disappointed as we were I guess they expected it maybe okay they just agree
expected it maybe okay they just agree
expected it maybe okay they just agree with that all right let’s steer this
with that all right let’s steer this
with that all right let’s steer this conversation over to our next entry
conversation over to our next entry
conversation over to our next entry shall we
shall we
shall we that’s gonna make sense in a second so
that’s gonna make sense in a second so
that’s gonna make sense in a second so for Gran Turismo sport I’ve got another
for Gran Turismo sport I’ve got another
for Gran Turismo sport I’ve got another comment here and dr. for gone killer 96
comment here and dr. for gone killer 96
comment here and dr. for gone killer 96 said he basically wrote our entry for us
said he basically wrote our entry for us
said he basically wrote our entry for us it’s it’s pretty it’s pretty harsh
it’s it’s pretty it’s pretty harsh
it’s it’s pretty it’s pretty harsh because once again we got to say this is
because once again we got to say this is
because once again we got to say this is this is why it’s on the disappointing
this is why it’s on the disappointing
this is why it’s on the disappointing list and he goes Gran Turismo sport is
list and he goes Gran Turismo sport is
list and he goes Gran Turismo sport is far from disappointing it looks great
far from disappointing it looks great
far from disappointing it looks great I’m gonna skip his bracketed part here
I’m gonna skip his bracketed part here
I’m gonna skip his bracketed part here you know it also is getting a full
you know it also is getting a full
you know it also is getting a full career mode like the last iterations
career mode like the last iterations
career mode like the last iterations including endurance races it’s getting
including endurance races it’s getting
including endurance races it’s getting more cars possibly up to 4,000
more cars possibly up to 4,000
more cars possibly up to 4,000 the only thing doesn’t have the only
the only thing doesn’t have the only
the only thing doesn’t have the only thing it doesn’t have his tracks but the
thing it doesn’t have his tracks but the
thing it doesn’t have his tracks but the track selection is fine for an eSports
track selection is fine for an eSports
track selection is fine for an eSports focus game it’s also getting offline so
focus game it’s also getting offline so
focus game it’s also getting offline so you can save offline now he used the
you can save offline now he used the
you can save offline now he used the word getting like three times he
word getting like three times he
word getting like three times he basically just listed off all the
basically just listed off all the
basically just listed off all the features that we then get yeah and that
features that we then get yeah and that
features that we then get yeah and that we didn’t get yeah and explained why
we didn’t get yeah and explained why
we didn’t get yeah and explained why it’s a disappointment like a discussion
it’s a disappointment like a discussion
it’s a disappointment like a discussion over
over
over no because they crashed the game today
no because they crashed the game today
no because they crashed the game today yeah and the the patch that came out
yeah and the the patch that came out
yeah and the the patch that came out today
today
today added a lot of those features that he
added a lot of those features that he
added a lot of those features that he was missing on the big one was offline
was missing on the big one was offline
was missing on the big one was offline campaign right yeah yeah which is
campaign right yeah yeah which is
campaign right yeah yeah which is something people are clamoring for but
something people are clamoring for but
something people are clamoring for but the game is not that old the game came
the game is not that old the game came
the game is not that old the game came out in October and
out in October and
out in October and well I’m not condoning releasing a game
well I’m not condoning releasing a game
well I’m not condoning releasing a game before it’s finished right and patching
before it’s finished right and patching
before it’s finished right and patching and features in afterwards the focus of
and features in afterwards the focus of
and features in afterwards the focus of this game was towards being an eSport so
this game was towards being an eSport so
this game was towards being an eSport so they sort of tightened the game up quite
they sort of tightened the game up quite
they sort of tightened the game up quite a bit and really emphasize that aspect
a bit and really emphasize that aspect
a bit and really emphasize that aspect of it and then the fact that they’re you
of it and then the fact that they’re you
of it and then the fact that they’re you know adding to it and bringing these
know adding to it and bringing these
know adding to it and bringing these features slowly back in to me makes this
features slowly back in to me makes this
features slowly back in to me makes this one this doesn’t really belong on the
one this doesn’t really belong on the
one this doesn’t really belong on the list I don’t think this is particularly
list I don’t think this is particularly
list I don’t think this is particularly disappointed really self I think it I
disappointed really self I think it I
disappointed really self I think it I think it redeemed itself especially with
think it redeemed itself especially with
think it redeemed itself especially with the content and event they’ve added a
the content and event they’ve added a
the content and event they’ve added a few more cars well I think mr. doctor
few more cars well I think mr. doctor
few more cars well I think mr. doctor for gone killer 96 PC would agree with
for gone killer 96 PC would agree with
for gone killer 96 PC would agree with you but it I don’t know man this the
you but it I don’t know man this the
you but it I don’t know man this the points he’s brought up make perfect
points he’s brought up make perfect
points he’s brought up make perfect sense for why you’d be disappointed also
sense for why you’d be disappointed also
sense for why you’d be disappointed also you said that like this a lot of these
you said that like this a lot of these
you said that like this a lot of these changes are a pivot towards eSports like
changes are a pivot towards eSports like
changes are a pivot towards eSports like does racing games don’t have any sport
does racing games don’t have any sport
does racing games don’t have any sport they needed one okay this game it that’s
they needed one okay this game it that’s
they needed one okay this game it that’s what this answer hardcore and shit here
what this answer hardcore and shit here
what this answer hardcore and shit here so there’s so hard to love driving yeah
so there’s so hard to love driving yeah
so there’s so hard to love driving yeah they love this Mario Kart right this is
they love this Mario Kart right this is
they love this Mario Kart right this is this this is forza these are these are
this this is forza these are these are
this this is forza these are these are games that people want to be really
games that people want to be really
games that people want to be really really good at good at to show how good
really good at good at to show how good
really good at good at to show how good they are to be like look how unforgiving
they are to be like look how unforgiving
they are to be like look how unforgiving this racing game is all I’m saying and
this racing game is all I’m saying and
this racing game is all I’m saying and this is the last thing we’ll say on this
this is the last thing we’ll say on this
this is the last thing we’ll say on this because I’m the boss here is that like I
because I’m the boss here is that like I
because I’m the boss here is that like I can understand why fans would be
can understand why fans would be
can understand why fans would be disappointed if your favorite gaming
disappointed if your favorite gaming
disappointed if your favorite gaming franchise decided to pivot towards
franchise decided to pivot towards
franchise decided to pivot towards eSports fair point
eSports fair point
eSports fair point sure fair point but I don’t move next
sure fair point but I don’t move next
sure fair point but I don’t move next next and ruling on entry there we go
next and ruling on entry there we go
next and ruling on entry there we go Marvel vs. Capcom and finish we’re
Marvel vs. Capcom and finish we’re
Marvel vs. Capcom and finish we’re talking about a buggy launch I’m not I’m
talking about a buggy launch I’m not I’m
talking about a buggy launch I’m not I’m not defending this one oh man they they
not defending this one oh man they they
not defending this one oh man they they walked back so much fun stuff no three
walked back so much fun stuff no three
walked back so much fun stuff no three players no no there’s no excuse me no
players no no there’s no excuse me no
players no no there’s no excuse me no three fighter tournament mode yeah
three fighter tournament mode yeah
three fighter tournament mode yeah that’s weird I don’t know why they take
that’s weird I don’t know why they take
that’s weird I don’t know why they take that out that’s like a staple of the
that out that’s like a staple of the
that out that’s like a staple of the franchise I am thinking it was technical
franchise I am thinking it was technical
franchise I am thinking it was technical limitations I think the game probably
limitations I think the game probably
limitations I think the game probably puked if you tried to do that that’s
puked if you tried to do that that’s
puked if you tried to do that that’s that’s my we’re in 2017 guys a seven it
that’s my we’re in 2017 guys a seven it
that’s my we’re in 2017 guys a seven it shouldn’t be an issue no I think and how
shouldn’t be an issue no I think and how
shouldn’t be an issue no I think and how like a giant open-world you can have six
like a giant open-world you can have six
like a giant open-world you can have six character swapping it’s not it’s it’s
character swapping it’s not it’s it’s
character swapping it’s not it’s it’s it’s it’s ridiculous it’s either lazy or
it’s it’s ridiculous it’s either lazy or
it’s it’s ridiculous it’s either lazy or but I mean it’s it’s a fighting game ran
but I mean it’s it’s a fighting game ran
but I mean it’s it’s a fighting game ran as long as you can like pick your
as long as you can like pick your
as long as you can like pick your Wolverine and go in and fight some
Wolverine and go in and fight some
Wolverine and go in and fight some people well that’s but that’s another
people well that’s but that’s another
people well that’s but that’s another problem I mean like the previous Marvel
problem I mean like the previous Marvel
problem I mean like the previous Marvel vs. Capcom games yes you knew that was
vs. Capcom games yes you knew that was
vs. Capcom games yes you knew that was you were baiting me their previous smart
you were baiting me their previous smart
you were baiting me their previous smart Marvel vs. Capcom games you get access
Marvel vs. Capcom games you get access
Marvel vs. Capcom games you get access to the x-men and even the Fantastic Four
to the x-men and even the Fantastic Four
to the x-men and even the Fantastic Four and all that stuff my brains been at the
and all that stuff my brains been at the
and all that stuff my brains been at the very first this game is a spin-off of
very first this game is a spin-off of
very first this game is a spin-off of x-men vs. Street x-men yeah there’s a
x-men vs. Street x-men yeah there’s a
x-men vs. Street x-men yeah there’s a street fighter yeah so Wolverine is in
street fighter yeah so Wolverine is in
street fighter yeah so Wolverine is in that one
that one
that one Greene’s been in it since day one yeah
Greene’s been in it since day one yeah
Greene’s been in it since day one yeah and you know what we perfectly
and you know what we perfectly
and you know what we perfectly understand like the licensing
understand like the licensing
understand like the licensing regulations like Fox owns the x-men and
regulations like Fox owns the x-men and
regulations like Fox owns the x-men and Fantastic Four so they can’t appear in
Fantastic Four so they can’t appear in
Fantastic Four so they can’t appear in something that’s an official Marvel
something that’s an official Marvel
something that’s an official Marvel property but from a gamers perspective
property but from a gamers perspective
property but from a gamers perspective that just kind of blows dude yeah it
that just kind of blows dude yeah it
that just kind of blows dude yeah it it’s like even the storyline with the
it’s like even the storyline with the
it’s like even the storyline with the whole Infinity stones it feels like
whole Infinity stones it feels like
whole Infinity stones it feels like they’re just setting up that next
they’re just setting up that next
they’re just setting up that next Avengers movie it felt like it was
Avengers movie it felt like it was
Avengers movie it felt like it was trying very hard to just be another
trying very hard to just be another
trying very hard to just be another facet of the MCU yeah exactly and I
facet of the MCU yeah exactly and I
facet of the MCU yeah exactly and I think I think that’s what they wanted to
think I think that’s what they wanted to
think I think that’s what they wanted to do I mean they want to bring it into the
do I mean they want to bring it into the
do I mean they want to bring it into the light they want to build the hype around
light they want to build the hype around
light they want to build the hype around it and so they pushed it out as this
it and so they pushed it out as this
it and so they pushed it out as this like extension to the story funny story
like extension to the story funny story
like extension to the story funny story when we were ready three this year they
when we were ready three this year they
when we were ready three this year they were playing it on this huge screen and
were playing it on this huge screen and
were playing it on this huge screen and below it they had Ultron Sigma which is
below it they had Ultron Sigma which is
below it they had Ultron Sigma which is like the combination of you know Mega
like the combination of you know Mega
like the combination of you know Mega Man X is filling Sigma and an Ultron
Man X is filling Sigma and an Ultron
Man X is filling Sigma and an Ultron from the Marvel Universe
from the Marvel Universe
from the Marvel Universe anyway amazing display and mid
anyway amazing display and mid
anyway amazing display and mid tournament between two players became
tournament between two players became
tournament between two players became blue screens like in front of all of e3
blue screens like in front of all of e3
blue screens like in front of all of e3 I mean all of you three wasn’t watching
I mean all of you three wasn’t watching
I mean all of you three wasn’t watching that one thing but it was you had look
that one thing but it was you had look
that one thing but it was you had look it tried to watch the extra character
it tried to watch the extra character
it tried to watch the extra character those three characters really yeah yeah
those three characters really yeah yeah
those three characters really yeah yeah yeah it was when they patched it out
yeah it was when they patched it out
yeah it was when they patched it out yeah did a Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 3
yeah did a Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 3
yeah did a Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 3 now I used to really play I never even
now I used to really play I never even
now I used to really play I never even bothered with this one because you know
bothered with this one because you know
bothered with this one because you know call me a shill I read the reviews and
call me a shill I read the reviews and
call me a shill I read the reviews and they made a pivot towards MOBAs like I
they made a pivot towards MOBAs like I
they made a pivot towards MOBAs like I mean you know we’re talking just before
mean you know we’re talking just before
mean you know we’re talking just before about like having a franchise that you
about like having a franchise that you
about like having a franchise that you love pivot towards eSports this is my
love pivot towards eSports this is my
love pivot towards eSports this is my sore spot like okay I understand that a
sore spot like okay I understand that a
sore spot like okay I understand that a real-time strategy
real-time strategy
real-time strategy games on their way out be MOBAs okay say
games on their way out be MOBAs okay say
games on their way out be MOBAs okay say they started production of this game in
they started production of this game in
they started production of this game in 2014-2015 MOBAs are the hottest thing at
2014-2015 MOBAs are the hottest thing at
2014-2015 MOBAs are the hottest thing at that point yeah the pivot kind of makes
that point yeah the pivot kind of makes
that point yeah the pivot kind of makes sense especially if you’re a suit if
sense especially if you’re a suit if
sense especially if you’re a suit if you’re an executive 2017 rolls around
you’re an executive 2017 rolls around
you’re an executive 2017 rolls around realtime strategy games are still very
realtime strategy games are still very
realtime strategy games are still very dead and people are sick of MOBAs like
dead and people are sick of MOBAs like
dead and people are sick of MOBAs like if the poor guys working on this game
if the poor guys working on this game
if the poor guys working on this game must have known people would have been
must have known people would have been
must have known people would have been pissed off
pissed off
pissed off like do you was anyone anyone out there
like do you was anyone anyone out there
like do you was anyone anyone out there viewers you guys clamoring for another
viewers you guys clamoring for another
viewers you guys clamoring for another multiplayer online battle arena game
multiplayer online battle arena game
multiplayer online battle arena game with your favorite printer with your
with your favorite printer with your
with your favorite printer with your favorite franchise yeah it wasn’t even a
favorite franchise yeah it wasn’t even a
favorite franchise yeah it wasn’t even a full-blown mobile yeah it was just like
full-blown mobile yeah it was just like
full-blown mobile yeah it was just like yours of course assembly of everything
yours of course assembly of everything
yours of course assembly of everything it’s just thankfully we did get a pretty
it’s just thankfully we did get a pretty
it’s just thankfully we did get a pretty cool work or hammer strategy game is
cool work or hammer strategy game is
cool work or hammer strategy game is here wasn’t for UK but no more heavier
here wasn’t for UK but no more heavier
here wasn’t for UK but no more heavier battle war – is the game that I’ve been
battle war – is the game that I’ve been
battle war – is the game that I’ve been playing on stops yeah came out so I have
playing on stops yeah came out so I have
playing on stops yeah came out so I have that so we got to plug that at least
that so we got to plug that at least
that so we got to plug that at least alright so shadow of war yes okay I know
alright so shadow of war yes okay I know
alright so shadow of war yes okay I know you have something to say about the
you have something to say about the
you have something to say about the Battle of war yeah yeah yeah shadow of
Battle of war yeah yeah yeah shadow of
Battle of war yeah yeah yeah shadow of war yeah okay I know you have something
war yeah okay I know you have something
war yeah okay I know you have something like as if we didn’t prep before the
like as if we didn’t prep before the
like as if we didn’t prep before the show anyway the thing about shadow of
show anyway the thing about shadow of
show anyway the thing about shadow of war is there’s two games this year that
war is there’s two games this year that
war is there’s two games this year that came out where we played previous
came out where we played previous
came out where we played previous versions of them about two or three
versions of them about two or three
versions of them about two or three years ago and you and I were saying like
years ago and you and I were saying like
years ago and you and I were saying like man these games all they have to do
man these games all they have to do
man these games all they have to do they’re definitely gonna make a sequel
they’re definitely gonna make a sequel
they’re definitely gonna make a sequel so they just have to make it just a
so they just have to make it just a
so they just have to make it just a little bit bigger a little bit more
little bit bigger a little bit more
little bit bigger a little bit more content and it’s sold we’ll talk about
content and it’s sold we’ll talk about
content and it’s sold we’ll talk about the second one on this list a little bit
the second one on this list a little bit
the second one on this list a little bit later but shadow of war what happened I
later but shadow of war what happened I
later but shadow of war what happened I was so pissed off at this game like you
was so pissed off at this game like you
was so pissed off at this game like you know how much I liked the first one the
know how much I liked the first one the
know how much I liked the first one the first one was just an enormous amount of
first one was just an enormous amount of
first one was just an enormous amount of fun but no content criminal lack of
fun but no content criminal lack of
fun but no content criminal lack of content yeah
content yeah
content yeah Andrew was really really upset when he
Andrew was really really upset when he
Andrew was really really upset when he he finished the game he was like fuck
he finished the game he was like fuck
he finished the game he was like fuck that game I thought oh I thought they
that game I thought oh I thought they
that game I thought oh I thought they were still like another I thought it was
were still like another I thought it was
were still like another I thought it was halfway through the game yeah and it’s
halfway through the game yeah and it’s
halfway through the game yeah and it’s like press X to kill Sauron no so this
like press X to kill Sauron no so this
like press X to kill Sauron no so this one I was super excited this is the only
one I was super excited this is the only
one I was super excited this is the only game this year that i pre-ordered
game this year that i pre-ordered
game this year that i pre-ordered because I swear I wasn’t gonna 2017 I’m
because I swear I wasn’t gonna 2017 I’m
because I swear I wasn’t gonna 2017 I’m gonna produce i pre-ordered shadow of
gonna produce i pre-ordered shadow of
gonna produce i pre-ordered shadow of war and I was so Dean really good game
war and I was so Dean really good game
war and I was so Dean really good game really fun all of that stuff is still
really fun all of that stuff is still
really fun all of that stuff is still there but they just bloated the hell out
there but they just bloated the hell out
there but they just bloated the hell out of it right here they did an assassin’s
of it right here they did an assassin’s
of it right here they did an assassin’s creed your your criticisms aren’t really
creed your your criticisms aren’t really
creed your your criticisms aren’t really related to the loot boxes I
related to the loot boxes I
related to the loot boxes I I know I don’t give a shit about the
I know I don’t give a shit about the
I know I don’t give a shit about the loot boxes they didn’t bought like I
loot boxes they didn’t bought like I
loot boxes they didn’t bought like I don’t mind buying them but they didn’t
don’t mind buying them but they didn’t
don’t mind buying them but they didn’t know they were not my problem with this
know they were not my problem with this
know they were not my problem with this case you didn’t get that far you didn’t
case you didn’t get that far you didn’t
case you didn’t get that far you didn’t get cuz I didn’t get too angry yeah you
get cuz I didn’t get too angry yeah you
get cuz I didn’t get too angry yeah you know I was just I was just I Trey was it
know I was just I was just I Trey was it
know I was just I was just I Trey was it just was a slog and you know all the fun
just was a slog and you know all the fun
just was a slog and you know all the fun the combat is still there the AI is
the combat is still there the AI is
the combat is still there the AI is fantastic the orcs are super interesting
fantastic the orcs are super interesting
fantastic the orcs are super interesting the orcs are the best part of the game
the orcs are the best part of the game
the orcs are the best part of the game they should just make a game that just
they should just make a game that just
they should just make a game that just sim orc sim shadow of war orc I would
sim orc sim shadow of war orc I would
sim orc sim shadow of war orc I would play the hell out of it you get to keep
play the hell out of it you get to keep
play the hell out of it you get to keep their heads on this time yeah yeah but
their heads on this time yeah yeah but
their heads on this time yeah yeah but it was just there was just too much crap
it was just there was just too much crap
it was just there was just too much crap the whole game feels like like the
the whole game feels like like the
the whole game feels like like the tutorial never feel it never ends you
tutorial never feel it never ends you
tutorial never feel it never ends you know they’re always just introducing new
know they’re always just introducing new
know they’re always just introducing new stuff I was learning in I need you don’t
stuff I was learning in I need you don’t
stuff I was learning in I need you don’t care about anymore and there was just
care about anymore and there was just
care about anymore and there was just way too many balls to keep up in the air
way too many balls to keep up in the air
way too many balls to keep up in the air and it was getting in the way of the fun
and it was getting in the way of the fun
and it was getting in the way of the fun they went way too overboard so like they
they went way too overboard so like they
they went way too overboard so like they they turned it a little bit too far to
they turned it a little bit too far to
they turned it a little bit too far to the yeah they turned into Assassin’s
the yeah they turned into Assassin’s
the yeah they turned into Assassin’s Creed they went from Arkham City or
Creed they went from Arkham City or
Creed they went from Arkham City or maybe Arkham Asylum you know like a
maybe Arkham Asylum you know like a
maybe Arkham Asylum you know like a tight game or everything and it has a
tight game or everything and it has a
tight game or everything and it has a reason to be in it and then they turned
reason to be in it and then they turned
reason to be in it and then they turned it into assassins creed game it’s just
it into assassins creed game it’s just
it into assassins creed game it’s just bloated way too much crap hmm Ricky
bloated way too much crap hmm Ricky
bloated way too much crap hmm Ricky thought I mean I can get behind that
thought I mean I can get behind that
thought I mean I can get behind that having being overwhelmed by gameplay and
having being overwhelmed by gameplay and
having being overwhelmed by gameplay and things that aren’t even core to the
things that aren’t even core to the
things that aren’t even core to the series or to the fun of the series well
series or to the fun of the series well
series or to the fun of the series well there’s always that moment when you’re
there’s always that moment when you’re
there’s always that moment when you’re starting a game especially a big
starting a game especially a big
starting a game especially a big adventure game like this where you’re
adventure game like this where you’re
adventure game like this where you’re kind of eager for them to take the
kind of eager for them to take the
kind of eager for them to take the training wheels off and just let you go
training wheels off and just let you go
training wheels off and just let you go of course I mom and that just never
of course I mom and that just never
of course I mom and that just never seems to end in shadow before no never I
seems to end in shadow before no never I
seems to end in shadow before no never I bought a new video card for this game
bought a new video card for this game
bought a new video card for this game I’m so disciplined and I think it’s
I’m so disciplined and I think it’s
I’m so disciplined and I think it’s still a good game and I will go back to
still a good game and I will go back to
still a good game and I will go back to it but I was so this is for me the most
it but I was so this is for me the most
it but I was so this is for me the most disappointing game of the year well okay
disappointing game of the year well okay
disappointing game of the year well okay so now it comes time to pit it to
so now it comes time to pit it to
so now it comes time to pit it to something that’s a little more this is a
something that’s a little more this is a
something that’s a little more this is a bit sadder we’re not actually ripping on
bit sadder we’re not actually ripping on
bit sadder we’re not actually ripping on the game we’re sort of just ripping on
the game we’re sort of just ripping on
the game we’re sort of just ripping on the circumstances of the game yeah I
the circumstances of the game yeah I
the circumstances of the game yeah I don’t know if you can guess actually
don’t know if you can guess actually
don’t know if you can guess actually it’s probably like right there on the
it’s probably like right there on the
it’s probably like right there on the screen I’m not sure where it is but it’s
screen I’m not sure where it is but it’s
screen I’m not sure where it is but it’s it’s right there it’s the next one you
it’s right there it’s the next one you
it’s right there it’s the next one you see it coming let’s talk about it anyway
see it coming let’s talk about it anyway
see it coming let’s talk about it anyway lawbreakers yeah robbery cos now we got
lawbreakers yeah robbery cos now we got
lawbreakers yeah robbery cos now we got some comments for this one both of them
some comments for this one both of them
some comments for this one both of them pretty much carry the same sentiment I
pretty much carry the same sentiment I
pretty much carry the same sentiment I would play lawbreakers if I could
would play lawbreakers if I could
would play lawbreakers if I could actually find a match and turtlenecks
actually find a match and turtlenecks
actually find a match and turtlenecks says the reason for lawbreakers is kind
says the reason for lawbreakers is kind
says the reason for lawbreakers is kind of sad and it is
of sad and it is
of sad and it is it’s actually really sad cuz the game is
it’s actually really sad cuz the game is
it’s actually really sad cuz the game is named school gorgeous I mean it looks
named school gorgeous I mean it looks
named school gorgeous I mean it looks beautiful it was really is a good
beautiful it was really is a good
beautiful it was really is a good experience now the only thing that I
experience now the only thing that I
experience now the only thing that I think is hampering it down aside from
think is hampering it down aside from
think is hampering it down aside from the player base it’s like it’s more of
the player base it’s like it’s more of
the player base it’s like it’s more of the same in terms of we have overwatch
the same in terms of we have overwatch
the same in terms of we have overwatch and that’s taken a large chunk of people
and that’s taken a large chunk of people
and that’s taken a large chunk of people away from these other titles these kind
away from these other titles these kind
away from these other titles these kind of like cartoony shooters these
of like cartoony shooters these
of like cartoony shooters these team-based shooters and you think you’re
team-based shooters and you think you’re
team-based shooters and you think you’re getting in trouble for saying it’s a
getting in trouble for saying it’s a
getting in trouble for saying it’s a little too similar to overwatch I don’t
little too similar to overwatch I don’t
little too similar to overwatch I don’t I’m not saying it’s exactly overwatch
I’m not saying it’s exactly overwatch
I’m not saying it’s exactly overwatch but I do think that it shares that whole
but I do think that it shares that whole
but I do think that it shares that whole dynamic the whole the mechanics of the
dynamic the whole the mechanics of the
dynamic the whole the mechanics of the game like it looks like it plays like oh
game like it looks like it plays like oh
game like it looks like it plays like oh so how badly do you think this was hurt
so how badly do you think this was hurt
so how badly do you think this was hurt by the fact that very early on people
by the fact that very early on people
by the fact that very early on people were saying that no one was playing I
were saying that no one was playing I
were saying that no one was playing I feel like if that becomes the discourse
feel like if that becomes the discourse
feel like if that becomes the discourse around her multiplayer game it’s
around her multiplayer game it’s
around her multiplayer game it’s literally instantly dead I heard a lot
literally instantly dead I heard a lot
literally instantly dead I heard a lot about this before it came out no there
about this before it came out no there
about this before it came out no there was not much marketing done and I think
was not much marketing done and I think
was not much marketing done and I think that their main the main icon they used
that their main the main icon they used
that their main the main icon they used to portray the game something called
to portray the game something called
to portray the game something called dead zone and it was like what you see
dead zone and it was like what you see
dead zone and it was like what you see when you die and when it came out it was
when you die and when it came out it was
when you die and when it came out it was just brushed over even though it again
just brushed over even though it again
just brushed over even though it again it looks great and it plays great
it looks great and it plays great
it looks great and it plays great there’s there’s nothing there’s there’s
there’s there’s nothing there’s there’s
there’s there’s nothing there’s there’s no excitement about it and I think
no excitement about it and I think
no excitement about it and I think they’ve missed a mark with with that
they’ve missed a mark with with that
they’ve missed a mark with with that chance I feel like it’s kind of like all
chance I feel like it’s kind of like all
chance I feel like it’s kind of like all right first of all I don’t think it was
right first of all I don’t think it was
right first of all I don’t think it was marketed very well no I don’t think the
marketed very well no I don’t think the
marketed very well no I don’t think the just the brand recognition and the
just the brand recognition and the
just the brand recognition and the exposure for the game before release I
exposure for the game before release I
exposure for the game before release I think was pretty bad and I think that
think was pretty bad and I think that
think was pretty bad and I think that heard it a lot but I also think that’s
heard it a lot but I also think that’s
heard it a lot but I also think that’s sort of it ties in to the art style I
sort of it ties in to the art style I
sort of it ties in to the art style I think you look at like an individual
think you look at like an individual
think you look at like an individual still and that looks great yeah but it
still and that looks great yeah but it
still and that looks great yeah but it also kind of looks like what they put on
also kind of looks like what they put on
also kind of looks like what they put on the box for your new 3d card that’s like
the box for your new 3d card that’s like
the box for your new 3d card that’s like supposed to be yeah from a video game
supposed to be yeah from a video game
supposed to be yeah from a video game it’s like video game art but it’s not
it’s like video game art but it’s not
it’s like video game art but it’s not from any game because it’s just generic
from any game because it’s just generic
from any game because it’s just generic and I think this game kind of suffered
and I think this game kind of suffered
and I think this game kind of suffered from how like there’s some really cool
from how like there’s some really cool
from how like there’s some really cool and beautiful art that’s gone into it
and beautiful art that’s gone into it
and beautiful art that’s gone into it but at the same time I feel like it’s
but at the same time I feel like it’s
but at the same time I feel like it’s like visually you can’t look at a single
like visually you can’t look at a single
like visually you can’t look at a single thing and say like that looks like it’s
thing and say like that looks like it’s
thing and say like that looks like it’s from lawbreakers
from lawbreakers
from lawbreakers you look at stuff created for other
you look at stuff created for other
you look at stuff created for other games and I hate to draw this comparison
games and I hate to draw this comparison
games and I hate to draw this comparison again because people will be upset but
again because people will be upset but
again because people will be upset but you can go like that looks like it
you can go like that looks like it
you can go like that looks like it should be an overwatch battleborn had
should be an overwatch battleborn had
should be an overwatch battleborn had that problem last year battle board its
that problem last year battle board its
that problem last year battle board its branding looked so similar people kept
branding looked so similar people kept
branding looked so similar people kept confused
confused
confused it an oversaturated market you do have
it an oversaturated market you do have
it an oversaturated market you do have to push even character development and
to push even character development and
to push even character development and have a face or a couple of phases that
have a face or a couple of phases that
have a face or a couple of phases that are associated with your your game
are associated with your your game
are associated with your your game probably the saddest entry yeah it’s
probably the saddest entry yeah it’s
probably the saddest entry yeah it’s disappointing in the most in the most
disappointing in the most in the most
disappointing in the most in the most truly disappointed sense if that could
truly disappointed sense if that could
truly disappointed sense if that could have been so much and maybe there’s
have been so much and maybe there’s
have been so much and maybe there’s still time I think there is I think so
still time I think there is I think so
still time I think there is I think so too I’m I think this game will have legs
too I’m I think this game will have legs
too I’m I think this game will have legs but it’s always going to be the underdog
but it’s always going to be the underdog
but it’s always going to be the underdog unfortunately you come regan lately
unfortunately you come regan lately
unfortunately you come regan lately there’s one that Dave yes a guy who we
there’s one that Dave yes a guy who we
there’s one that Dave yes a guy who we work with in the video game Department
work with in the video game Department
work with in the video game Department one of the stalwarts was really looking
one of the stalwarts was really looking
one of the stalwarts was really looking forward to this he always wants banjo
forward to this he always wants banjo
forward to this he always wants banjo kazooie on our retro list back the
kazooie on our retro list back the
kazooie on our retro list back the Kickstarter I think he was like a high
Kickstarter I think he was like a high
Kickstarter I think he was like a high tier backer and he was really good shit
tier backer and he was really good shit
tier backer and he was really good shit I think he got like yes he got some he
I think he got like yes he got some he
I think he got like yes he got some he got a t-shirt or something
got a t-shirt or something
got a t-shirt or something haven’t seen him wearing it yet he has
haven’t seen him wearing it yet he has
haven’t seen him wearing it yet he has no well he’s not so happy with it I
no well he’s not so happy with it I
no well he’s not so happy with it I think see this is a good example of a
think see this is a good example of a
think see this is a good example of a game that was almost too faithful in its
game that was almost too faithful in its
game that was almost too faithful in its recreation for those of you that don’t
recreation for those of you that don’t
recreation for those of you that don’t know it’s a spiritual successor to banjo
know it’s a spiritual successor to banjo
know it’s a spiritual successor to banjo kazooie and you know it’s a good
kazooie and you know it’s a good
kazooie and you know it’s a good collectathon actually you know what I
collectathon actually you know what I
collectathon actually you know what I have a comment about this let’s go it’s
have a comment about this let’s go it’s
have a comment about this let’s go it’s alright so dark chaos taxi says ukelele
alright so dark chaos taxi says ukelele
alright so dark chaos taxi says ukelele should be nowhere near the top of this
should be nowhere near the top of this
should be nowhere near the top of this list I can understand giving it a
list I can understand giving it a
list I can understand giving it a mention because of the scope of the game
mention because of the scope of the game
mention because of the scope of the game being slightly similar but it got way
being slightly similar but it got way
being slightly similar but it got way too much negative press the game is just
too much negative press the game is just
too much negative press the game is just fantastic
fantastic
fantastic and tickled the nostalgia perfectly most
and tickled the nostalgia perfectly most
and tickled the nostalgia perfectly most complaints were about being ver about it
complaints were about being ver about it
complaints were about being ver about it being bugged which it was patched fairly
being bugged which it was patched fairly
being bugged which it was patched fairly quickly I might add or because it’s a
quickly I might add or because it’s a
quickly I might add or because it’s a collectathon all caps that’s what it’s
collectathon all caps that’s what it’s
collectathon all caps that’s what it’s supposed to be also might I add for
supposed to be also might I add for
supposed to be also might I add for another time that the complaints in this
another time that the complaints in this
another time that the complaints in this video were actually really shallow in
video were actually really shallow in
video were actually really shallow in comparison to the other dishonours
comparison to the other dishonours
comparison to the other dishonours despite it being so high on the list
despite it being so high on the list
despite it being so high on the list didn’t agree with the order I think now
didn’t agree with the order I think now
didn’t agree with the order I think now you want to talk about why we placed it
you want to talk about why we placed it
you want to talk about why we placed it so high because I think there was a lot
so high because I think there was a lot
so high because I think there was a lot riding on this like oh yeah you know
riding on this like oh yeah you know
riding on this like oh yeah you know talk about press and brand recognition
talk about press and brand recognition
talk about press and brand recognition first of all not only did this game gain
first of all not only did this game gain
first of all not only did this game gain a lot of hype but it’s really easy to
a lot of hype but it’s really easy to
a lot of hype but it’s really easy to spot the characters even like okay you
spot the characters even like okay you
spot the characters even like okay you show some of the side characters you
show some of the side characters you
show some of the side characters you might not go like oh that’s from ukelele
might not go like oh that’s from ukelele
might not go like oh that’s from ukelele but emblematic branding from day one and
but emblematic branding from day one and
but emblematic branding from day one and a built-in audience what I was gonna say
a built-in audience what I was gonna say
a built-in audience what I was gonna say was that like I just feel that this is a
was that like I just feel that this is a
was that like I just feel that this is a great example of the game that copied
great example of the game that copied
great example of the game that copied over a lot of the tropes and fit and
over a lot of the tropes and fit and
over a lot of the tropes and fit and gameplay elements that were in the
gameplay elements that were in the
gameplay elements that were in the predecessors that have technically that
predecessors that have technically that
predecessors that have technically that are not necessary anymore
are not necessary anymore
are not necessary anymore in a game like this you know well they
in a game like this you know well they
in a game like this you know well they tried to mimic it instead of like taking
tried to mimic it instead of like taking
tried to mimic it instead of like taking not a genre but a style of game that
not a genre but a style of game that
not a genre but a style of game that worked in the early 2000s and adapting
worked in the early 2000s and adapting
worked in the early 2000s and adapting it in the way say like an ex-con what do
it in the way say like an ex-con what do
it in the way say like an ex-con what do right or modernize exactly mmm is a
right or modernize exactly mmm is a
right or modernize exactly mmm is a better example or modernizing it they
better example or modernizing it they
better example or modernizing it they replicated this early 2000 style of
replicated this early 2000 style of
replicated this early 2000 style of adventure game almost too closely
adventure game almost too closely
adventure game almost too closely exactly I mean it’s yeah it’s an
exactly I mean it’s yeah it’s an
exactly I mean it’s yeah it’s an original title and if people were
original title and if people were
original title and if people were backing it on kickstart and put their
backing it on kickstart and put their
backing it on kickstart and put their money into it and we’re excited about it
money into it and we’re excited about it
money into it and we’re excited about it and they kind of got this recycled
and they kind of got this recycled
and they kind of got this recycled beautifully recycled but recycled
beautifully recycled but recycled
beautifully recycled but recycled recycled you don’t really hear those
recycled you don’t really hear those
recycled you don’t really hear those words together yeah I mean let the game
words together yeah I mean let the game
words together yeah I mean let the game looks great and the art styles green
looks great and the art styles green
looks great and the art styles green it’s vibrant and and it’s it’s got this
it’s vibrant and and it’s it’s got this
it’s vibrant and and it’s it’s got this nostalgic throwback but it’s not enough
nostalgic throwback but it’s not enough
nostalgic throwback but it’s not enough to save it from all of its flaws and I
to save it from all of its flaws and I
to save it from all of its flaws and I guess that’s why it’s it’s on the list
guess that’s why it’s it’s on the list
guess that’s why it’s it’s on the list it’s disappointing it could have been it
it’s disappointing it could have been it
it’s disappointing it could have been it could have been awesome and it was it’s
could have been awesome and it was it’s
could have been awesome and it was it’s a fun thought experiment when you look
a fun thought experiment when you look
a fun thought experiment when you look at an old game that was a classic and
at an old game that was a classic and
at an old game that was a classic and you say like if this was released today
you say like if this was released today
you say like if this was released today would it be popular yeah and it’s just
would it be popular yeah and it’s just
would it be popular yeah and it’s just like a lot of things that we were used
like a lot of things that we were used
like a lot of things that we were used to when we were playing the n64 have
to when we were playing the n64 have
to when we were playing the n64 have been kind of fixed yeah and like when
been kind of fixed yeah and like when
been kind of fixed yeah and like when you tolerated it back then but shouldn’t
you tolerated it back then but shouldn’t
you tolerated it back then but shouldn’t necessarily have to tolerate it now oh
necessarily have to tolerate it now oh
necessarily have to tolerate it now oh and it’s also in that’s why it’s so high
and it’s also in that’s why it’s so high
and it’s also in that’s why it’s so high on the list too is because this game had
on the list too is because this game had
on the list too is because this game had more it’s almost flattering to the game
more it’s almost flattering to the game
more it’s almost flattering to the game yeah that it’s number three almost yeah
yeah that it’s number three almost yeah
yeah that it’s number three almost yeah exactly because there was definitely a
exactly because there was definitely a
exactly because there was definitely a market for it okay so funny story for
market for it okay so funny story for
market for it okay so funny story for viewers at home when we were prepping
viewers at home when we were prepping
viewers at home when we were prepping our end-of-the-year lists so
our end-of-the-year lists so
our end-of-the-year lists so disappointing worst and best game of the
disappointing worst and best game of the
disappointing worst and best game of the year there was a big discussion over
year there was a big discussion over
year there was a big discussion over whether or not we should leave a blank
whether or not we should leave a blank
whether or not we should leave a blank spot for best game of the year for Star
spot for best game of the year for Star
spot for best game of the year for Star Wars Battlefront because it hadn’t come
Wars Battlefront because it hadn’t come
Wars Battlefront because it hadn’t come out yet needless to say we didn’t have
out yet needless to say we didn’t have
out yet needless to say we didn’t have to swap anything around on the best
to swap anything around on the best
to swap anything around on the best games of the year list No
games of the year list No
games of the year list No the other one but I think this is
the other one but I think this is
the other one but I think this is another great example of disappointment
another great example of disappointment
another great example of disappointment it’s not necessarily a flat-out broken
it’s not necessarily a flat-out broken
it’s not necessarily a flat-out broken product and I think it’s competent what
product and I think it’s competent what
product and I think it’s competent what it’s trying to do okay I you know what
it’s trying to do okay I you know what
it’s trying to do okay I you know what what do you guys think okay so here’s my
what do you guys think okay so here’s my
what do you guys think okay so here’s my thing with it obviously the progression
thing with it obviously the progression
thing with it obviously the progression system from the outset was completely
system from the outset was completely
system from the outset was completely broken with the battle pole not pulling
broken with the battle pole not pulling
broken with the battle pole not pulling any punches Ricky no it was broken and
any punches Ricky no it was broken and
any punches Ricky no it was broken and the dilute boxes I mean I feel like
the dilute boxes I mean I feel like
the dilute boxes I mean I feel like they’re taking advantage of the
they’re taking advantage of the
they’re taking advantage of the playerbase by saying okay you got to pay
playerbase by saying okay you got to pay
playerbase by saying okay you got to pay for this you got to put in like 40 hours
for this you got to put in like 40 hours
for this you got to put in like 40 hours to get a skin your your it’s it’s like
to get a skin your your it’s it’s like
to get a skin your your it’s it’s like almost like abuse because they know that
almost like abuse because they know that
almost like abuse because they know that the Star Wars name carries that weight
the Star Wars name carries that weight
the Star Wars name carries that weight and they know that people are gonna go
and they know that people are gonna go
and they know that people are gonna go out and get it anyways EA knows that and
out and get it anyways EA knows that and
out and get it anyways EA knows that and so when you’re doing that you’re
so when you’re doing that you’re
so when you’re doing that you’re treating us like idiots and you’re
treating us like idiots and you’re
treating us like idiots and you’re taking us for granted and there’s a
taking us for granted and there’s a
taking us for granted and there’s a reason why that reddit comment is the
reason why that reddit comment is the
reason why that reddit comment is the most downloaded one in history because
most downloaded one in history because
most downloaded one in history because people and gamers who are analytical
people and gamers who are analytical
people and gamers who are analytical look through and see these shallow
look through and see these shallow
look through and see these shallow attempts at taking your money and and
attempts at taking your money and and
attempts at taking your money and and exploiting your time and it just I mean
exploiting your time and it just I mean
exploiting your time and it just I mean again the game itself obviously isn’t
again the game itself obviously isn’t
again the game itself obviously isn’t horrible it’s not horrible it’s a point
horrible it’s not horrible it’s a point
horrible it’s not horrible it’s a point experience and a lot of people from the
experience and a lot of people from the
experience and a lot of people from the comments that I’ve read as well yeah I
comments that I’ve read as well yeah I
comments that I’ve read as well yeah I got tons of comments here we probably
got tons of comments here we probably
got tons of comments here we probably seen them on screen as I’m talking right
seen them on screen as I’m talking right
seen them on screen as I’m talking right now yeah technology if I like a lot of
now yeah technology if I like a lot of
now yeah technology if I like a lot of people love it they’ll agree care about
people love it they’ll agree care about
people love it they’ll agree care about the loot crate’s and if you don’t that’s
the loot crate’s and if you don’t that’s
the loot crate’s and if you don’t that’s okay what I go out when I played it was
okay what I go out when I played it was
okay what I go out when I played it was that like it really did feel like the
that like it really did feel like the
that like it really did feel like the game was skewed towards these things
game was skewed towards these things
game was skewed towards these things like they actually they did the thing
like they actually they did the thing
like they actually they did the thing that people have been complaining about
that people have been complaining about
that people have been complaining about forever but hasn’t quite happened this
forever but hasn’t quite happened this
forever but hasn’t quite happened this idea that like the loot boxes will
idea that like the loot boxes will
idea that like the loot boxes will actually result in pay to win mechanics
actually result in pay to win mechanics
actually result in pay to win mechanics that that like it will they will
that that like it will they will
that that like it will they will actually damage the gameplay by
actually damage the gameplay by
actually damage the gameplay by implementing these things that’s a real
implementing these things that’s a real
implementing these things that’s a real shame and it damage the gameplay almost
shame and it damage the gameplay almost
shame and it damage the gameplay almost immediately because as soon when you
immediately because as soon when you
immediately because as soon when you jump in and you get killed by somebody
jump in and you get killed by somebody
jump in and you get killed by somebody cuz you see the star cards killed you
cuz you see the star cards killed you
cuz you see the star cards killed you see the rich I don’t want to play a
see the rich I don’t want to play a
see the rich I don’t want to play a shooter a multiplayer shooter where the
shooter a multiplayer shooter where the
shooter a multiplayer shooter where the other person’s using the same gun as me
other person’s using the same gun as me
other person’s using the same gun as me but their gun does more damage or the
but their gun does more damage or the
but their gun does more damage or the other person just is the same class as
other person just is the same class as
other person just is the same class as me but they’re taking less damage or
me but they’re taking less damage or
me but they’re taking less damage or faster or their grenades I don’t want to
faster or their grenades I don’t want to
faster or their grenades I don’t want to play a multiplayer shooter that has
play a multiplayer shooter that has
play a multiplayer shooter that has those kinds of mechanics in the game if
those kinds of mechanics in the game if
those kinds of mechanics in the game if when there’s unlocks and customisation
when there’s unlocks and customisation
when there’s unlocks and customisation like in battlefield games or Call of
like in battlefield games or Call of
like in battlefield games or Call of Duty is supposed to be sad even death
Duty is supposed to be sad even death
Duty is supposed to be sad even death exactly it’s sideways and this game is
exactly it’s sideways and this game is
exactly it’s sideways and this game is not a step sideways it’s the more you
not a step sideways it’s the more you
not a step sideways it’s the more you play the your Starfighter will do more
play the your Starfighter will do more
play the your Starfighter will do more damage than the other guys Starfighter
damage than the other guys Starfighter
damage than the other guys Starfighter this game isn’t it’s not so much a
this game isn’t it’s not so much a
this game isn’t it’s not so much a disappointment to the battlefront
disappointment to the battlefront
disappointment to the battlefront franchise it’s a disappointment to
franchise it’s a disappointment to
franchise it’s a disappointment to gaming mmm hot take of the day and this
gaming mmm hot take of the day and this
gaming mmm hot take of the day and this was you know we were talking before
was you know we were talking before
was you know we were talking before about games where we were just we saw
about games where we were just we saw
about games where we were just we saw the last one we say okay this is not
the last one we say okay this is not
the last one we say okay this is not perfect but if they make a solid sequel
perfect but if they make a solid sequel
perfect but if they make a solid sequel and learn from their mistakes then we’re
and learn from their mistakes then we’re
and learn from their mistakes then we’re just gonna have a great game and I think
just gonna have a great game and I think
just gonna have a great game and I think you’re right in what you’re saying like
you’re right in what you’re saying like
you’re right in what you’re saying like they knew that they just had to tell
they knew that they just had to tell
they knew that they just had to tell everyone that they’re adding more
everyone that they’re adding more
everyone that they’re adding more features throw in all the era’s make it
features throw in all the era’s make it
features throw in all the era’s make it look pretty
look pretty
look pretty it’s Star Wars and people are gonna buy
it’s Star Wars and people are gonna buy
it’s Star Wars and people are gonna buy it because we are those people
it because we are those people
it because we are those people that’s literally that was me it’s us I
that’s literally that was me it’s us I
that’s literally that was me it’s us I was gonna buy it yeah and you know I
was gonna buy it yeah and you know I
was gonna buy it yeah and you know I think it’s it speaks volumes to that to
think it’s it speaks volumes to that to
think it’s it speaks volumes to that to how popular this work this whole
how popular this work this whole
how popular this work this whole franchise is like that we were we had
franchise is like that we were we had
franchise is like that we were we had confidence in it we were just like I
confidence in it we were just like I
confidence in it we were just like I think this game is gonna be good I’m
think this game is gonna be good I’m
think this game is gonna be good I’m really hoping for a lord of Destruction
really hoping for a lord of Destruction
really hoping for a lord of Destruction Diablo 3 no lord of Destruction Reaper
Diablo 3 no lord of Destruction Reaper
Diablo 3 no lord of Destruction Reaper of souls kind of turnaround where they
of souls kind of turnaround where they
of souls kind of turnaround where they can take their licks and release an
can take their licks and release an
can take their licks and release an expansion or some patches that really
expansion or some patches that really
expansion or some patches that really just kind of turns it around and like
just kind of turns it around and like
just kind of turns it around and like fixes what was broken but I honestly
fixes what was broken but I honestly
fixes what was broken but I honestly don’t think it’s so much like because
don’t think it’s so much like because
don’t think it’s so much like because you know they turned off the
you know they turned off the
you know they turned off the microtransactions right I don’t think
microtransactions right I don’t think
microtransactions right I don’t think it’s as easy as just flipping a switch
it’s as easy as just flipping a switch
it’s as easy as just flipping a switch no there there’s gonna be some balancing
no there there’s gonna be some balancing
no there there’s gonna be some balancing issues I know a lot of you like it by
issues I know a lot of you like it by
issues I know a lot of you like it by the way so if you’re typing that you’re
the way so if you’re typing that you’re
the way so if you’re typing that you’re having fun with it like please we don’t
having fun with it like please we don’t
having fun with it like please we don’t have to bond clean that’s fine it’s
have to bond clean that’s fine it’s
have to bond clean that’s fine it’s supposed to be fun yeah we don’t want we
supposed to be fun yeah we don’t want we
supposed to be fun yeah we don’t want we never want to suck the fun out of your
never want to suck the fun out of your
never want to suck the fun out of your life to be bad we don’t look at a game
life to be bad we don’t look at a game
life to be bad we don’t look at a game and be like oh I hope this we are gamers
and be like oh I hope this we are gamers
and be like oh I hope this we are gamers yeah and supposed to be fun yeah okay
yeah and supposed to be fun yeah okay
yeah and supposed to be fun yeah okay here we go
here we go
here we go numero uno Mass Effect Andromeda now I
numero uno Mass Effect Andromeda now I
numero uno Mass Effect Andromeda now I know you’re a big fan Andrew Ricky you
know you’re a big fan Andrew Ricky you
know you’re a big fan Andrew Ricky you can play in Mass Effect games not
can play in Mass Effect games not
can play in Mass Effect games not recently not recently
recently not recently
recently not recently the new one for obvious reasons yeah
the new one for obvious reasons yeah
the new one for obvious reasons yeah well I mean like we Andrew and I both
well I mean like we Andrew and I both
well I mean like we Andrew and I both have n7 gear and fans but like okay game
have n7 gear and fans but like okay game
have n7 gear and fans but like okay game did have big shoes to fill
did have big shoes to fill
did have big shoes to fill I think it’s a good example of okay I’m
I think it’s a good example of okay I’m
I think it’s a good example of okay I’m not defending the game fully cuz there’s
not defending the game fully cuz there’s
not defending the game fully cuz there’s a lot of things that are wrong with it
a lot of things that are wrong with it
a lot of things that are wrong with it like there was the animation thing and
like there was the animation thing and
like there was the animation thing and the writing kind of sucked and the RPG
the writing kind of sucked and the RPG
the writing kind of sucked and the RPG mechanics were kind of simplified
mechanics were kind of simplified
mechanics were kind of simplified there’s just there’s tons upon tons of
there’s just there’s tons upon tons of
there’s just there’s tons upon tons of things telling to pull apart yeah III
things telling to pull apart yeah III
things telling to pull apart yeah III don’t think they made the sell properly
don’t think they made the sell properly
don’t think they made the sell properly way before the game came out that like
way before the game came out that like
way before the game came out that like it’s time to return to Mass Effect this
it’s time to return to Mass Effect this
it’s time to return to Mass Effect this is a new Mass Effect game to get pumped
is a new Mass Effect game to get pumped
is a new Mass Effect game to get pumped for AI at no point was I watching
for AI at no point was I watching
for AI at no point was I watching trailers and I was like oh my god Mass
trailers and I was like oh my god Mass
trailers and I was like oh my god Mass Effect’s back who cares about Shepard
Effect’s back who cares about Shepard
Effect’s back who cares about Shepard blah I was sort of like I guess I’m
blah I was sort of like I guess I’m
blah I was sort of like I guess I’m gonna like this because I like Mass
gonna like this because I like Mass
gonna like this because I like Mass Effect but those were my thoughts going
Effect but those were my thoughts going
Effect but those were my thoughts going in I think this is a good example we
in I think this is a good example we
in I think this is a good example we were talking about how law breakers was
were talking about how law breakers was
were talking about how law breakers was probably hurt by the fact that you if
probably hurt by the fact that you if
probably hurt by the fact that you if the first thing you hear about the game
the first thing you hear about the game
the first thing you hear about the game isn’t that no one’s playing that’s very
isn’t that no one’s playing that’s very
isn’t that no one’s playing that’s very bad yeah and this game was really hurt
bad yeah and this game was really hurt
bad yeah and this game was really hurt by that whole animation row like that
by that whole animation row like that
by that whole animation row like that how the game could was accessed EA
how the game could was accessed EA
how the game could was accessed EA access people could play it week early
access people could play it week early
access people could play it week early and the just the shots of the horrible
and the just the shots of the horrible
and the just the shots of the horrible janky animations came out I think that
janky animations came out I think that
janky animations came out I think that sunk the game right off the bat even if
sunk the game right off the bat even if
sunk the game right off the bat even if it were to be an amazing accomplishment
it were to be an amazing accomplishment
it were to be an amazing accomplishment after that but that was a nice
after that but that was a nice
after that but that was a nice jumping-off point I think for people to
jumping-off point I think for people to
jumping-off point I think for people to just rip on it well it reminds the
just rip on it well it reminds the
just rip on it well it reminds the integrity of the whole thing I mean you
integrity of the whole thing I mean you
integrity of the whole thing I mean you see something that’s supposed to be a
see something that’s supposed to be a
see something that’s supposed to be a triple-a title with the legacy of Mass
triple-a title with the legacy of Mass
triple-a title with the legacy of Mass Effect and it kind of just looks jaggedy
Effect and it kind of just looks jaggedy
Effect and it kind of just looks jaggedy it’s not flowing and there’s there’s
it’s not flowing and there’s there’s
it’s not flowing and there’s there’s there’s there’s no reason to keep
there’s there’s no reason to keep
there’s there’s no reason to keep watching it and to keep indulging
watching it and to keep indulging
watching it and to keep indulging yourself in and it just takes you away
yourself in and it just takes you away
yourself in and it just takes you away from the experience so I mean yeah it’s
from the experience so I mean yeah it’s
from the experience so I mean yeah it’s gonna take a hit you know we expect we
gonna take a hit you know we expect we
gonna take a hit you know we expect we expect beautiful things we expect to
expect beautiful things we expect to
expect beautiful things we expect to look at something and for it to be for
look at something and for it to be for
look at something and for it to be for realistic and when you don’t see that in
realistic and when you don’t see that in
realistic and when you don’t see that in a Hallmark franchise like this it does
a Hallmark franchise like this it does
a Hallmark franchise like this it does kind of take away from the the whole
kind of take away from the the whole
kind of take away from the the whole excitement of it now there’s some really
excitement of it now there’s some really
excitement of it now there’s some really good articles out there as to how like
good articles out there as to how like
good articles out there as to how like as to what went wrong like they had to
as to what went wrong like they had to
as to what went wrong like they had to switch it like the engine was just not
switch it like the engine was just not
switch it like the engine was just not made for an RPG like they had to like
made for an RPG like they had to like
made for an RPG like they had to like restart production at one point I don’t
restart production at one point I don’t
restart production at one point I don’t want to misquote these articles so look
want to misquote these articles so look
want to misquote these articles so look them up yourselves but I think we own
them up yourselves but I think we own
them up yourselves but I think we own that they had because they put a few
that they had because they put a few
that they had because they put a few more diverse characters in the animation
more diverse characters in the animation
more diverse characters in the animation suffered because that’s how game
suffered because that’s how game
suffered because that’s how game development works you know they have
development works you know they have
development works you know they have like a whiteboard and it’s like nice
like a whiteboard and it’s like nice
like a whiteboard and it’s like nice animations character diversity and
animations character diversity and
animations character diversity and they’re like gotta pick one right the
they’re like gotta pick one right the
they’re like gotta pick one right the social justice warriors ruined Mass
social justice warriors ruined Mass
social justice warriors ruined Mass Effect that’s they happen that’s totally
Effect that’s they happen that’s totally
Effect that’s they happen that’s totally what happened right these are facts
what happened right these are facts
what happened right these are facts because that’s how game development
because that’s how game development
because that’s how game development works you use like oh we have to have
works you use like oh we have to have
works you use like oh we have to have like people’s like colors so we can’t so
like people’s like colors so we can’t so
like people’s like colors so we can’t so so it’s just like I guess we’re gonna
so it’s just like I guess we’re gonna
so it’s just like I guess we’re gonna have to fire this animation team trade
have to fire this animation team trade
have to fire this animation team trade offs trade offs trade offs yeah we are
offs trade offs trade offs yeah we are
offs trade offs trade offs yeah we are being heavily sarcastic here by the way
being heavily sarcastic here by the way
being heavily sarcastic here by the way I hope that’s clear it is yeah no no no
I hope that’s clear it is yeah no no no
I hope that’s clear it is yeah no no no man problems of mass effect is like
man problems of mass effect is like
man problems of mass effect is like people just had really myself included
people just had really myself included
people just had really myself included had just really really high expectations
had just really really high expectations
had just really really high expectations of the game because it’s not like an
of the game because it’s not like an
of the game because it’s not like an indie studio making this game no it’s
indie studio making this game no it’s
indie studio making this game no it’s following like a huge incredibly
following like a huge incredibly
following like a huge incredibly successful really well beloved franchise
successful really well beloved franchise
successful really well beloved franchise and it’s like a new jumping-off point
and it’s like a new jumping-off point
and it’s like a new jumping-off point like a spin-off series yeah for a new
like a spin-off series yeah for a new
like a spin-off series yeah for a new franchise and it just didn’t live up to
franchise and it just didn’t live up to
franchise and it just didn’t live up to anything that the original Mass Effect
anything that the original Mass Effect
anything that the original Mass Effect did it just the combat wasn’t as diverse
did it just the combat wasn’t as diverse
did it just the combat wasn’t as diverse and fun even though they tried they just
and fun even though they tried they just
and fun even though they tried they just oversimplified it too much the
oversimplified it too much the
oversimplified it too much the characters just weren’t as strong the
characters just weren’t as strong the
characters just weren’t as strong the storyline wasn’t as compelling the
storyline wasn’t as compelling the
storyline wasn’t as compelling the writing wasn’t as good like it didn’t
writing wasn’t as good like it didn’t
writing wasn’t as good like it didn’t reach any of them nothing was quite
reach any of them nothing was quite
reach any of them nothing was quite there yeah and it’s a shame I remember
there yeah and it’s a shame I remember
there yeah and it’s a shame I remember playing Dragon Age Inquisition which I
playing Dragon Age Inquisition which I
playing Dragon Age Inquisition which I wasn’t crazy about but I was like man
wasn’t crazy about but I was like man
wasn’t crazy about but I was like man can’t wait till they make a Mass Effect
can’t wait till they make a Mass Effect
can’t wait till they make a Mass Effect game with this engine but uh careful
game with this engine but uh careful
game with this engine but uh careful what you wish for because apparently
what you wish for because apparently
what you wish for because apparently that engine really worked them yeah big
that engine really worked them yeah big
that engine really worked them yeah big shame do you think we’ll ever get
shame do you think we’ll ever get
shame do you think we’ll ever get another route a good Mass Effect game I
another route a good Mass Effect game I
another route a good Mass Effect game I think I think they’re gonna wait for the
think I think they’re gonna wait for the
think I think they’re gonna wait for the fire to die down yeah they’ll it is a
fire to die down yeah they’ll it is a
fire to die down yeah they’ll it is a triumphant return I mean that I mean
triumphant return I mean that I mean
triumphant return I mean that I mean they’re in position to do that but or it
they’re in position to do that but or it
they’re in position to do that but or it could go down the sonic route and just
could go down the sonic route and just
could go down the sonic route and just keep getting worse oh man let’s it’s too
keep getting worse oh man let’s it’s too
keep getting worse oh man let’s it’s too big for franchise like Sonic was a
big for franchise like Sonic was a
big for franchise like Sonic was a popular character Mass Effect is to
popular character Mass Effect is to
popular character Mass Effect is to expense it cost too much to make them as
expense it cost too much to make them as
expense it cost too much to make them as effective they’re gonna they’re gonna
effective they’re gonna they’re gonna
effective they’re gonna they’re gonna wait for the fire to die down and then
wait for the fire to die down and then
wait for the fire to die down and then they might not might not even be sequel
they might not might not even be sequel
they might not might not even be sequel to Andromeda oh I I I think they’re
to Andromeda oh I I I think they’re
to Andromeda oh I I I think they’re gonna expunge – a third that that name
gonna expunge – a third that that name
gonna expunge – a third that that name is going there
is going there
is going there yeah motive ends Ramadan nobody’s visit
yeah motive ends Ramadan nobody’s visit
yeah motive ends Ramadan nobody’s visit nobody’s there
nobody’s there
nobody’s there oh man anyway I guess that brings us to
oh man anyway I guess that brings us to
oh man anyway I guess that brings us to the end of our list guys um Ricky yeah
the end of our list guys um Ricky yeah
the end of our list guys um Ricky yeah Andrew thank you so much for joining us
Andrew thank you so much for joining us
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