
human trafficking and exploitation is an ongoing problem throughout the world
ongoing problem throughout the world
ongoing problem throughout the world even in developed countries like the
even in developed countries like the
even in developed countries like the United States and Canada hi I’m Rebecca
United States and Canada hi I’m Rebecca
United States and Canada hi I’m Rebecca Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and
Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and
Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and today we’re speaking with author
today we’re speaking with author
today we’re speaking with author Benjamin Perrin about his book invisible
Benjamin Perrin about his book invisible
Benjamin Perrin about his book invisible chains and about putting an end to
chains and about putting an end to
chains and about putting an end to modern-day slavery so tell us about your
modern-day slavery so tell us about your
modern-day slavery so tell us about your book invisible chains so many people
book invisible chains so many people
book invisible chains so many people including myself thought human
including myself thought human
including myself thought human trafficking only happened overseas I
trafficking only happened overseas I
trafficking only happened overseas I started working on this issue in
started working on this issue in
started working on this issue in Cambodia ten years ago this book for the
Cambodia ten years ago this book for the
Cambodia ten years ago this book for the very first time reveals that this is
very first time reveals that this is
very first time reveals that this is happening in our communities it’s
happening in our communities it’s
happening in our communities it’s happening right across the country
happening right across the country
happening right across the country including here in Quebec it involves not
including here in Quebec it involves not
including here in Quebec it involves not just women brought in from abroad and
just women brought in from abroad and
just women brought in from abroad and Exploited in the sex trade it also
Exploited in the sex trade it also
Exploited in the sex trade it also includes Canadian victims we exploited
includes Canadian victims we exploited
includes Canadian victims we exploited in our own country in the sex trade and
in our own country in the sex trade and
in our own country in the sex trade and in some cases traffic to the United
in some cases traffic to the United
in some cases traffic to the United States the victims are also men one in
States the victims are also men one in
States the victims are also men one in four foreign trafficking victims in
four foreign trafficking victims in
four foreign trafficking victims in Canada are men and a recent case in in
Canada are men and a recent case in in
Canada are men and a recent case in in Hamilton really explodes that problem
Hamilton really explodes that problem
Hamilton really explodes that problem there were 19 the men from Hungary
there were 19 the men from Hungary
there were 19 the men from Hungary brought in forced to work on
brought in forced to work on
brought in forced to work on construction sites for no pay locked in
construction sites for no pay locked in
construction sites for no pay locked in basements and fed only scraps of food
basements and fed only scraps of food
basements and fed only scraps of food once a day so you know this is something
once a day so you know this is something
once a day so you know this is something which is happening in our communities
which is happening in our communities
which is happening in our communities and the reason why the book is called
and the reason why the book is called
and the reason why the book is called invisible chains is that these people
invisible chains is that these people
invisible chains is that these people who are being exploited by these
who are being exploited by these
who are being exploited by these traffickers are being controlled by
traffickers are being controlled by
traffickers are being controlled by chains that are just as powerful as the
chains that are just as powerful as the
chains that are just as powerful as the physical chains that we knew from the
physical chains that we knew from the
physical chains that we knew from the slavery of old but these chains are not
slavery of old but these chains are not
slavery of old but these chains are not able to be seen just by meeting the
able to be seen just by meeting the
able to be seen just by meeting the person people often say well why don’t
person people often say well why don’t
person people often say well why don’t they just call the police or why don’t
they just call the police or why don’t
they just call the police or why don’t they escape and some victims try to
they escape and some victims try to
they escape and some victims try to escape and they and they pay the price
escape and they and they pay the price
escape and they and they pay the price dearly if they’re not successful some of
dearly if they’re not successful some of
dearly if they’re not successful some of them do escape and they that’s how we
them do escape and they that’s how we
them do escape and they that’s how we know about these cases but we’ve got to
know about these cases but we’ve got to
know about these cases but we’ve got to be so careful here we’re not blaming the
be so careful here we’re not blaming the
be so careful here we’re not blaming the victim that’s a really common response
victim that’s a really common response
victim that’s a really common response that some people have here how is the
that some people have here how is the
that some people have here how is the internet change the game for human
internet change the game for human
internet change the game for human traffickers well it’s it’s made it far
traffickers well it’s it’s made it far
traffickers well it’s it’s made it far more effective at once a victim who’s
more effective at once a victim who’s
more effective at once a victim who’s advertised on Craigslist is fully
advertised on Craigslist is fully
advertised on Craigslist is fully visible right men can purchase her the
visible right men can purchase her the
visible right men can purchase her the traffickers can lower prices which they
traffickers can lower prices which they
traffickers can lower prices which they do post photos and it’s free and they
do post photos and it’s free and they
do post photos and it’s free and they believe it’s anonymous which it turns
believe it’s anonymous which it turns
believe it’s anonymous which it turns out it actually is not necessarily and
out it actually is not necessarily and
out it actually is not necessarily and at the same time though they can move
at the same time though they can move
at the same time though they can move their victims constantly so people often
their victims constantly so people often
their victims constantly so people often say well you know why aren’t you
say well you know why aren’t you
say well you know why aren’t you focusing on on those weekly newspapers
focusing on on those weekly newspapers
focusing on on those weekly newspapers with all those ads in the back I
with all those ads in the back I
with all those ads in the back I actually take a shot at them as well in
actually take a shot at them as well in
actually take a shot at them as well in this book I say that if you’re gonna
this book I say that if you’re gonna
this book I say that if you’re gonna collect at advertising revenue from an
collect at advertising revenue from an
collect at advertising revenue from an escort agency you need to do some due
escort agency you need to do some due
escort agency you need to do some due diligence at least spot-check a few them
diligence at least spot-check a few them
diligence at least spot-check a few them because we know that escort agencies
because we know that escort agencies
because we know that escort agencies have been used as fronts for sex
have been used as fronts for sex
have been used as fronts for sex trafficking can in fact every outlet
trafficking can in fact every outlet
trafficking can in fact every outlet that you can think of strip clubs escort
that you can think of strip clubs escort
that you can think of strip clubs escort agencies massage
agencies massage
agencies massage parlours all have found human
parlours all have found human
parlours all have found human trafficking victims in them you focus
trafficking victims in them you focus
trafficking victims in them you focus specifically on the problem in Canada
specifically on the problem in Canada
specifically on the problem in Canada but tell us about this problem
but tell us about this problem
but tell us about this problem throughout the world this is a global
throughout the world this is a global
throughout the world this is a global problem and the US State Department puts
problem and the US State Department puts
problem and the US State Department puts out an annual report every year and it
out an annual report every year and it
out an annual report every year and it ranks countries around the world there’s
ranks countries around the world there’s
ranks countries around the world there’s not a single country that is not
not a single country that is not
not a single country that is not affected in some way by this either as a
affected in some way by this either as a
affected in some way by this either as a source country meaning that they’re
source country meaning that they’re
source country meaning that they’re their citizens become victims as a
their citizens become victims as a
their citizens become victims as a transit point or as a destination where
transit point or as a destination where
transit point or as a destination where the exploitation is happening in
the exploitation is happening in
the exploitation is happening in Canada’s case it’s all three methods of
Canada’s case it’s all three methods of
Canada’s case it’s all three methods of human trafficking that we’ve got and so
human trafficking that we’ve got and so
human trafficking that we’ve got and so this problem is really flourished below
this problem is really flourished below
this problem is really flourished below the radar for years now you know why are
the radar for years now you know why are
the radar for years now you know why are people hearing about it now well partly
people hearing about it now well partly
people hearing about it now well partly because it’s only been a crime for five
because it’s only been a crime for five
because it’s only been a crime for five years that’s it it was not a crime to
years that’s it it was not a crime to
years that’s it it was not a crime to trafficking people until 2005 in the
trafficking people until 2005 in the
trafficking people until 2005 in the criminal code as one of the foremost
criminal code as one of the foremost
criminal code as one of the foremost experts on this topic tell us about some
experts on this topic tell us about some
experts on this topic tell us about some of the research that you’ve undertaken
of the research that you’ve undertaken
of the research that you’ve undertaken to learn more about this problem
to learn more about this problem
to learn more about this problem well I determined to sort of not go for
well I determined to sort of not go for
well I determined to sort of not go for anecdotal information there was a lot of
anecdotal information there was a lot of
anecdotal information there was a lot of stuff about human trafficking in Canada
stuff about human trafficking in Canada
stuff about human trafficking in Canada written a few years ago which did make
written a few years ago which did make
written a few years ago which did make big statements like oh traffic victims
big statements like oh traffic victims
big statements like oh traffic victims come from Asia that turns out to be true
come from Asia that turns out to be true
come from Asia that turns out to be true but it doesn’t give you enough
but it doesn’t give you enough
but it doesn’t give you enough information to provide an intervention
information to provide an intervention
information to provide an intervention how are they coming here what methods of
how are they coming here what methods of
how are they coming here what methods of control are their traffickers using
control are their traffickers using
control are their traffickers using which countries specifically in Asia
which countries specifically in Asia
which countries specifically in Asia which has happens to be a pretty big
which has happens to be a pretty big
which has happens to be a pretty big continent and so we’ve been able to
continent and so we’ve been able to
continent and so we’ve been able to really get down to the bottom of this
really get down to the bottom of this
really get down to the bottom of this sort of thing we found out that the top
sort of thing we found out that the top
sort of thing we found out that the top force source countries for foreign
force source countries for foreign
force source countries for foreign trafficking to Canada are China the
trafficking to Canada are China the
trafficking to Canada are China the Philippines romania and moldova
Philippines romania and moldova
Philippines romania and moldova and what’s common to all four countries
and what’s common to all four countries
and what’s common to all four countries is they have all been criticised for
is they have all been criticised for
is they have all been criticised for failing to deal with the problem in some
failing to deal with the problem in some
failing to deal with the problem in some cases they’re complicit in organized
cases they’re complicit in organized
cases they’re complicit in organized crime cases of Moldova for example
crime cases of Moldova for example
crime cases of Moldova for example corruption also is part of the problem
corruption also is part of the problem
corruption also is part of the problem and in other cases for example with
and in other cases for example with
and in other cases for example with China victims who returned home to China
China victims who returned home to China
China victims who returned home to China are eventually punished by the state
are eventually punished by the state
are eventually punished by the state because they’re viewed as having
because they’re viewed as having
because they’re viewed as having tarnished the reputation of the country
tarnished the reputation of the country
tarnished the reputation of the country this is something you often hear is the
this is something you often hear is the
this is something you often hear is the sex trade is called the world’s oldest
sex trade is called the world’s oldest
sex trade is called the world’s oldest profession well there’s a lot of people
profession well there’s a lot of people
profession well there’s a lot of people now who say well it’s the oldest
now who say well it’s the oldest
now who say well it’s the oldest oppression and we don’t have to accept
oppression and we don’t have to accept
oppression and we don’t have to accept it any more than we accepted
it any more than we accepted
it any more than we accepted discrimination against people’s ethnic
discrimination against people’s ethnic
discrimination against people’s ethnic backgrounds slavery or that women
backgrounds slavery or that women
backgrounds slavery or that women couldn’t vote these were things that
couldn’t vote these were things that
couldn’t vote these were things that were also thousands of years in the
were also thousands of years in the
were also thousands of years in the making and one day we stood up against
making and one day we stood up against
making and one day we stood up against them and that’s really why I hope this
them and that’s really why I hope this
them and that’s really why I hope this book can be a powerful call for action
book can be a powerful call for action
book can be a powerful call for action here in Canada thank you very much
here in Canada thank you very much
here in Canada thank you very much you
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