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HipMojo 15B: Will there be a shakeout in Online Advertising


welcome to segment two of hip bones I’ll

welcome to segment two of hip bones I’ll show 15 so in this segment we’re going

show 15 so in this segment we’re going

show 15 so in this segment we’re going to talk about a very interesting article

to talk about a very interesting article

to talk about a very interesting article i read in Reuters were basically will

i read in Reuters were basically will

i read in Reuters were basically will Margalo for Marge Olaf who is the CEO of

Margalo for Marge Olaf who is the CEO of

Margalo for Marge Olaf who is the CEO of ignition one a division of the Japanese

ignition one a division of the Japanese

ignition one a division of the Japanese media and advertising giant dentsu he

media and advertising giant dentsu he

media and advertising giant dentsu he basically says that there’s going to be

basically says that there’s going to be

basically says that there’s going to be a shakeout in the online ad market and

a shakeout in the online ad market and

a shakeout in the online ad market and the reason for that is he goes you

the reason for that is he goes you

the reason for that is he goes you possibly can’t have six or seven market

possibly can’t have six or seven market

possibly can’t have six or seven market leaders amongst ad agencies and adnet

leaders amongst ad agencies and adnet

leaders amongst ad agencies and adnet well at agent sees you could but it goes

well at agent sees you could but it goes

well at agent sees you could but it goes you can’t have six or seven market

you can’t have six or seven market

you can’t have six or seven market leaders amongst ad networks can have six

leaders amongst ad networks can have six

leaders amongst ad networks can have six or seven market leaders in the you know

or seven market leaders in the you know

or seven market leaders in the you know exchange field what do you think do you

exchange field what do you think do you

exchange field what do you think do you think that online medium is growing and

think that online medium is growing and

think that online medium is growing and consumers are spending more time than

consumers are spending more time than

consumers are spending more time than ever online budgets are flowing online

ever online budgets are flowing online

ever online budgets are flowing online is media cyclical but online media going

is media cyclical but online media going

is media cyclical but online media going to grow for the next ten years

to grow for the next ten years

to grow for the next ten years uninterruptedly a sake out what’s your

uninterruptedly a sake out what’s your

uninterruptedly a sake out what’s your read on on the ad agency world and um i

read on on the ad agency world and um i

read on on the ad agency world and um i think there’s going to be a little bit

think there’s going to be a little bit

think there’s going to be a little bit of a shakeout and i think what’s

of a shakeout and i think what’s

of a shakeout and i think what’s important to consider here is when you

important to consider here is when you

important to consider here is when you look at an ad agency we really gotta

look at an ad agency we really gotta

look at an ad agency we really gotta distinguish between you know their media

distinguish between you know their media

distinguish between you know their media buying divisions or departments and

buying divisions or departments and

buying divisions or departments and their creative division two departments

their creative division two departments

their creative division two departments on their creative side you’re going to

on their creative side you’re going to

on their creative side you’re going to not see as much of a shakeout you know

not see as much of a shakeout you know

not see as much of a shakeout you know there you’re going to see fun stuff like

there you’re going to see fun stuff like

there you’re going to see fun stuff like the old spice guy i’m sorry i love the

the old spice guy i’m sorry i love the

the old spice guy i’m sorry i love the old spice file you have like stock in

old spice file you have like stock in

old spice file you have like stock in Old Spice I just think it looks good in

Old Spice I just think it looks good in

Old Spice I just think it looks good in that towel but um on the media buying

that towel but um on the media buying

that towel but um on the media buying something every day on the media buying

something every day on the media buying

something every day on the media buying side I can see that really shaking

side I can see that really shaking

side I can see that really shaking things up I get the impression at a lot

things up I get the impression at a lot

things up I get the impression at a lot of agencies especially the big ones like

of agencies especially the big ones like

of agencies especially the big ones like at the end of the day a lot of their

at the end of the day a lot of their

at the end of the day a lot of their revenue comes from for media buying and

revenue comes from for media buying and

revenue comes from for media buying and media placement the thing is is that’s

media placement the thing is is that’s

media placement the thing is is that’s not nearly as complicated as it used to

not nearly as complicated as it used to

not nearly as complicated as it used to be you know like used to have to have

be you know like used to have to have

be you know like used to have to have networks with like billboard vendors in

networks with like billboard vendors in

networks with like billboard vendors in yada yada yada now you can actually go

yada yada yada now you can actually go

yada yada yada now you can actually go and do a lot of your buying through ad

and do a lot of your buying through ad

and do a lot of your buying through ad networks and in a lot of sense it makes

networks and in a lot of sense it makes

networks and in a lot of sense it makes much more sense to go through an ad

much more sense to go through an ad

much more sense to go through an ad network than to deal directly with the

network than to deal directly with the

network than to deal directly with the publisher because then one you got one

publisher because then one you got one

publisher because then one you got one point of contact and to what networks

point of contact and to what networks

point of contact and to what networks specialize in is like tracking and

specialize in is like tracking and

specialize in is like tracking and metrics and that kind of thing that a

metrics and that kind of thing that a

metrics and that kind of thing that a publisher just won’t be able to give you

publisher just won’t be able to give you

publisher just won’t be able to give you to the same degree so I can actually buy

to the same degree so I can actually buy

to the same degree so I can actually buy ads through fifty publishers and get

ads through fifty publishers and get

ads through fifty publishers and get reporting through one dashboard with a

reporting through one dashboard with a

reporting through one dashboard with a network so i can see networks in a sense

network so i can see networks in a sense

network so i can see networks in a sense eating into i guess the media buying

eating into i guess the media buying

eating into i guess the media buying divisions one agent

divisions one agent

divisions one agent these will have a less of a demand for

these will have a less of a demand for

these will have a less of a demand for media buyers and two it also puts

media buyers and two it also puts

media buyers and two it also puts individual advertisers in a position to

individual advertisers in a position to

individual advertisers in a position to do more of the media buying in house so

do more of the media buying in house so

do more of the media buying in house so I can see that really disrupting the ad

I can see that really disrupting the ad

I can see that really disrupting the ad agency model especially for the agencies

agency model especially for the agencies

agency model especially for the agencies that are very strong and media buying

that are very strong and media buying

that are very strong and media buying and rely less on creative I was going to

and rely less on creative I was going to

and rely less on creative I was going to talk about something else but he touch

talk about something else but he touch

talk about something else but he touch media buying what’s interesting is I

media buying what’s interesting is I

media buying what’s interesting is I think agencies do make a lot of money

think agencies do make a lot of money

think agencies do make a lot of money from media buying but they pay the

from media buying but they pay the

from media buying but they pay the people in the agency so little because

people in the agency so little because

people in the agency so little because they’ll be like here’s a 10 million

they’ll be like here’s a 10 million

they’ll be like here’s a 10 million dollar budget campaign account but i’m

dollar budget campaign account but i’m

dollar budget campaign account but i’m going to go hire a 21 year old very very

going to go hire a 21 year old very very

going to go hire a 21 year old very very cute girl but a 21 year old who’s like

cute girl but a 21 year old who’s like

cute girl but a 21 year old who’s like really never done anything but she

really never done anything but she

really never done anything but she happens to have a facebook account she’s

happens to have a facebook account she’s

happens to have a facebook account she’s on Twitter so she gets social media and

on Twitter so she gets social media and

on Twitter so she gets social media and we’re going to make her basically

we’re going to make her basically

we’re going to make her basically planned as 10 million dollar accounts

planned as 10 million dollar accounts

planned as 10 million dollar accounts and some higher senior guy with more

and some higher senior guy with more

and some higher senior guy with more experience will sign off on it because

experience will sign off on it because

experience will sign off on it because they actually don’t make a lot of money

they actually don’t make a lot of money

they actually don’t make a lot of money than the lower level employees don’t

than the lower level employees don’t

than the lower level employees don’t necessarily do the work that they should

necessarily do the work that they should

necessarily do the work that they should do or go to the extent of planning and

do or go to the extent of planning and

do or go to the extent of planning and researching they don’t have the

researching they don’t have the

researching they don’t have the experience they don’t have the

experience they don’t have the

experience they don’t have the experience yeah but they are very cute

experience yeah but they are very cute

experience yeah but they are very cute not so the problem is I think what you

not so the problem is I think what you

not so the problem is I think what you are seeing is a lot of this sort of not

are seeing is a lot of this sort of not

are seeing is a lot of this sort of not as successful buying and like the saying

as successful buying and like the saying

as successful buying and like the saying goes nobody gets fired for buying an ad

goes nobody gets fired for buying an ad

goes nobody gets fired for buying an ad on yahoo but you might get fired for

on yahoo but you might get fired for

on yahoo but you might get fired for buying an ad on XYZ the new site that

buying an ad on XYZ the new site that

buying an ad on XYZ the new site that happens to be edgy or whatever so I

happens to be edgy or whatever so I

happens to be edgy or whatever so I think that is another reason why you’ve

think that is another reason why you’ve

think that is another reason why you’ve seen the quants the the you know

seen the quants the the you know

seen the quants the the you know analytical guys take over Madison Avenue

analytical guys take over Madison Avenue

analytical guys take over Madison Avenue is because yeah the way you by media to

is because yeah the way you by media to

is because yeah the way you by media to quote area you have your old spice I

quote area you have your old spice I

quote area you have your old spice I keep repeating Eric Schmidt who goes as

keep repeating Eric Schmidt who goes as

keep repeating Eric Schmidt who goes as light as good in the town no definitely

light as good in the town no definitely

light as good in the town no definitely not advertising is the last bastion of

not advertising is the last bastion of

not advertising is the last bastion of unaccountability in corporate America

unaccountability in corporate America

unaccountability in corporate America and he’s right so I think but the reason

and he’s right so I think but the reason

and he’s right so I think but the reason why the ad agencies and the ad networks

why the ad agencies and the ad networks

why the ad agencies and the ad networks re the reason why the ad networks and

re the reason why the ad networks and

re the reason why the ad networks and the ad exchanges have had so much

the ad exchanges have had so much

the ad exchanges have had so much success is because buying the old school

success is because buying the old school

success is because buying the old school way of you know an advertiser hiring an

way of you know an advertiser hiring an

way of you know an advertiser hiring an ad agency who in turn hires a bunch of

ad agency who in turn hires a bunch of

ad agency who in turn hires a bunch of junior people to plan and by campaigns

junior people to plan and by campaigns

junior people to plan and by campaigns across hundreds of publishers is

across hundreds of publishers is

across hundreds of publishers is actually very inefficient and hoobae

actually very inefficient and hoobae

actually very inefficient and hoobae ceases unit razorfish one of like the

ceases unit razorfish one of like the

ceases unit razorfish one of like the first and leading digital shots came out

first and leading digital shots came out

first and leading digital shots came out and said we are now doubling the amount

and said we are now doubling the amount

and said we are now doubling the amount we buy through ad exchanges and the

we buy through ad exchanges and the

we buy through ad exchanges and the number of publishers we buy directly

number of publishers we buy directly

number of publishers we buy directly we’re

we’re

we’re the cut in half so a few years ago makes

the cut in half so a few years ago makes

the cut in half so a few years ago makes perfect unfortunately but I think this

perfect unfortunately but I think this

perfect unfortunately but I think this is the challenge content is really

is the challenge content is really

is the challenge content is really expensive to produce but if you’re a

expensive to produce but if you’re a

expensive to produce but if you’re a Content producer and you have these big

Content producer and you have these big

Content producer and you have these big plans to be like you know having an

plans to be like you know having an

plans to be like you know having an ad-supported business good luck ad

ad-supported business good luck ad

ad-supported business good luck ad agencies don’t really buy directly from

agencies don’t really buy directly from

agencies don’t really buy directly from publishers anymore especially video

publishers anymore especially video

publishers anymore especially video where the ad networks have come out of

where the ad networks have come out of

where the ad networks have come out of nowhere you know give credit where it’s

nowhere you know give credit where it’s

nowhere you know give credit where it’s due the ad networks whether it’s tremor

due the ad networks whether it’s tremor

due the ad networks whether it’s tremor or whether it’s bright role whether it’s

or whether it’s bright role whether it’s

or whether it’s bright role whether it’s you mean whether it’s you know all the

you mean whether it’s you know all the

you mean whether it’s you know all the bee bees and and you know the millions

bee bees and and you know the millions

bee bees and and you know the millions over that dozens out there they’ve come

over that dozens out there they’ve come

over that dozens out there they’ve come out of nowhere and they’re generating a

out of nowhere and they’re generating a

out of nowhere and they’re generating a lot of revenue and a lot of it is coming

lot of revenue and a lot of it is coming

lot of revenue and a lot of it is coming at the extent of small mid publishers

at the extent of small mid publishers

at the extent of small mid publishers and even large portals right and I think

and even large portals right and I think

and even large portals right and I think they’re the other thing is networks

they’re the other thing is networks

they’re the other thing is networks enable you to buy inventory across a

enable you to buy inventory across a

enable you to buy inventory across a bunch of sites that you would never

bunch of sites that you would never

bunch of sites that you would never invest someone’s salary a time and

invest someone’s salary a time and

invest someone’s salary a time and trying to deal with directly yeah that’s

trying to deal with directly yeah that’s

trying to deal with directly yeah that’s the problem now I think there’s going to

the problem now I think there’s going to

the problem now I think there’s going to be a shake out the the category right

be a shake out the the category right

be a shake out the the category right now that is sort of the belle of the

now that is sort of the belle of the

now that is sort of the belle of the ball are the ad exchanges the ad

ball are the ad exchanges the ad

ball are the ad exchanges the ad exchanges are like this layer on top of

exchanges are like this layer on top of

exchanges are like this layer on top of even the ad networks where basically

even the ad networks where basically

even the ad networks where basically you’re not even looking at publishers

you’re not even looking at publishers

you’re not even looking at publishers anymore you’re just looking frankly at

anymore you’re just looking frankly at

anymore you’re just looking frankly at you know demand side supply-side

you know demand side supply-side

you know demand side supply-side inventory matching it based on pricing

inventory matching it based on pricing

inventory matching it based on pricing and and you know demo and all that I

and and you know demo and all that I

and and you know demo and all that I think right now that seems like a very

think right now that seems like a very

think right now that seems like a very very efficient way to buy and you know

very efficient way to buy and you know

very efficient way to buy and you know what I’m not knocking it I see why

what I’m not knocking it I see why

what I’m not knocking it I see why there’s a lot of interest amongst buyers

there’s a lot of interest amongst buyers

there’s a lot of interest amongst buyers but I do think though that you will see

but I do think though that you will see

but I do think though that you will see a regression to the mean the same way

a regression to the mean the same way

a regression to the mean the same way that on Wall Street 10 you know 10 15 20

that on Wall Street 10 you know 10 15 20

that on Wall Street 10 you know 10 15 20 years ago you thought oh my god the

years ago you thought oh my god the

years ago you thought oh my god the quants are running all these hedge funds

quants are running all these hedge funds

quants are running all these hedge funds nothing can go wrong the sky’s the limit

nothing can go wrong the sky’s the limit

nothing can go wrong the sky’s the limit and then they destroyed wall street and

and then they destroyed wall street and

and then they destroyed wall street and the broader economy because they just

the broader economy because they just

the broader economy because they just assume there’s no such thing as risk

assume there’s no such thing as risk

assume there’s no such thing as risk anymore they were too big to fail that’s

anymore they were too big to fail that’s

anymore they were too big to fail that’s it and they all felt so I think it’s the

it and they all felt so I think it’s the

it and they all felt so I think it’s the same thing there will be a point in time

same thing there will be a point in time

same thing there will be a point in time when a coca-cola or McDonald’s or even a

when a coca-cola or McDonald’s or even a

when a coca-cola or McDonald’s or even a smaller advertisers going to say you

smaller advertisers going to say you

smaller advertisers going to say you know what yeah maybe this user that I’m

know what yeah maybe this user that I’m

know what yeah maybe this user that I’m reaching now is exactly my audience but

reaching now is exactly my audience but

reaching now is exactly my audience but he’s a neo-nazi I don’t want to be

he’s a neo-nazi I don’t want to be

he’s a neo-nazi I don’t want to be associated online with my banners

associated online with my banners

associated online with my banners loading up targeting neo-nazis I rather

loading up targeting neo-nazis I rather

loading up targeting neo-nazis I rather go and target my ads and place my ads or

go and target my ads and place my ads or

go and target my ads and place my ads or my video ads or my text ads for my

my video ads or my text ads for my

my video ads or my text ads for my banner ads on a site that has the kind

banner ads on a site that has the kind

banner ads on a site that has the kind of Content that I want because if I’m

of Content that I want because if I’m

of Content that I want because if I’m surfing on CNN and I see a mercedes-benz

surfing on CNN and I see a mercedes-benz

surfing on CNN and I see a mercedes-benz ad i’m going to associate

ad i’m going to associate

ad i’m going to associate even if I’m not going to buy that car

even if I’m not going to buy that car

even if I’m not going to buy that car I’m going to associate mercedes-benz

I’m going to associate mercedes-benz

I’m going to associate mercedes-benz with CNN and I’m going to say ok this is

with CNN and I’m going to say ok this is

with CNN and I’m going to say ok this is a certain audience that they want and

a certain audience that they want and

a certain audience that they want and that’s I think how long term brands

that’s I think how long term brands

that’s I think how long term brands develop goodwill brand equity etc etc so

develop goodwill brand equity etc etc so

develop goodwill brand equity etc etc so I get it why in 2011 we’re all enamored

I get it why in 2011 we’re all enamored

I get it why in 2011 we’re all enamored with ad networks and and ad exchanges

with ad networks and and ad exchanges

with ad networks and and ad exchanges but I just think that there’s going to

but I just think that there’s going to

but I just think that there’s going to be a regression to the mean by then I

be a regression to the mean by then I

be a regression to the mean by then I will probably be long out of the content

will probably be long out of the content

will probably be long out of the content game I will have no you know don’t care

game I will have no you know don’t care

game I will have no you know don’t care and no say in the matter but trust me

and no say in the matter but trust me

and no say in the matter but trust me there’s always a regression to the mean

there’s always a regression to the mean

there’s always a regression to the mean this blind buying through ad exchanges

this blind buying through ad exchanges

this blind buying through ad exchanges this black box formula works only until

this black box formula works only until

this black box formula works only until so far and one little sort of micro

so far and one little sort of micro

so far and one little sort of micro example of that is look at Google

example of that is look at Google

example of that is look at Google Google’s black box adsense AdWords

Google’s black box adsense AdWords

Google’s black box adsense AdWords system work for text links because the

system work for text links because the

system work for text links because the kind of buyer that was buying those text

kind of buyer that was buying those text

kind of buyer that was buying those text links didn’t care who it was they just

links didn’t care who it was they just

links didn’t care who it was they just wanted the neo-nazi guide to buy those

wanted the neo-nazi guide to buy those

wanted the neo-nazi guide to buy those boots you know what I mean they didn’t

boots you know what I mean they didn’t

boots you know what I mean they didn’t care but when then google bought youtube

care but when then google bought youtube

care but when then google bought youtube then it was more about branding and

then it was more about branding and

then it was more about branding and fortune 500 advertisers and Google give

fortune 500 advertisers and Google give

fortune 500 advertisers and Google give them credit they realize that that model

them credit they realize that that model

them credit they realize that that model was just not going to transpose yeah but

was just not going to transpose yeah but

was just not going to transpose yeah but at the same time the majority of the

at the same time the majority of the

at the same time the majority of the revenue is still driven totally text

revenue is still driven totally text

revenue is still driven totally text that totally but look at the fact that

that totally but look at the fact that

that totally but look at the fact that you know innovators dilemma they’re

you know innovators dilemma they’re

you know innovators dilemma they’re making 29 billion from from total

making 29 billion from from total

making 29 billion from from total revenues 29 billion is probably all from

revenues 29 billion is probably all from

revenues 29 billion is probably all from advertising probably 25 26 27 billion

advertising probably 25 26 27 billion

advertising probably 25 26 27 billion could still be from search and text

could still be from search and text

could still be from search and text links but if they don’t get that two

links but if they don’t get that two

links but if they don’t get that two billion that comes from display and

billion that comes from display and

billion that comes from display and video to 20 billion it won’t be relevant

video to 20 billion it won’t be relevant

video to 20 billion it won’t be relevant they won’t be relevant Facebook’s going

they won’t be relevant Facebook’s going

they won’t be relevant Facebook’s going to come along hulu crap stir that is

to come along hulu crap stir that is

to come along hulu crap stir that is waiting lurking in the shadows to come

waiting lurking in the shadows to come

waiting lurking in the shadows to come and take over the world so I think

and take over the world so I think

and take over the world so I think that’s the idea that at least I give

that’s the idea that at least I give

that’s the idea that at least I give credit for google for not sitting there

credit for google for not sitting there

credit for google for not sitting there waiting to become redundant that kind of

waiting to become redundant that kind of

waiting to become redundant that kind of touches on my point about in terms of

touches on my point about in terms of

touches on my point about in terms of targeting y networks can do better is if

targeting y networks can do better is if

targeting y networks can do better is if I go straight to a publisher I am just

I go straight to a publisher I am just

I go straight to a publisher I am just trusting that their demographics are

trusting that their demographics are

trusting that their demographics are right if I go through a network a

right if I go through a network a

right if I go through a network a network can actually place the script on

network can actually place the script on

network can actually place the script on their site and show them an ad when it’s

their site and show them an ad when it’s

their site and show them an ad when it’s one of my ads when it’s you know when

one of my ads when it’s you know when

one of my ads when it’s you know when the demographics are right and someone

the demographics are right and someone

the demographics are right and someone else is at the rest of the time so I

else is at the rest of the time so I

else is at the rest of the time so I don’t actually have to buy up the real

don’t actually have to buy up the real

don’t actually have to buy up the real estate like completely I can only buy it

estate like completely I can only buy it

estate like completely I can only buy it when it’s relevant yeah I mean again

when it’s relevant yeah I mean again

when it’s relevant yeah I mean again from the advertiser inside i get the

from the advertiser inside i get the

from the advertiser inside i get the value I just think from an investment

value I just think from an investment

value I just think from an investment business side it won’t really matter ad

business side it won’t really matter ad

business side it won’t really matter ad networks at exchanges most tech

networks at exchanges most tech

networks at exchanges most tech companies are set up to scale very

companies are set up to scale very

companies are set up to scale very quickly that’s the beautiful thing about

quickly that’s the beautiful thing about

quickly that’s the beautiful thing about them but then there’s not

them but then there’s not

them but then there’s not damaged defensibility so you end up

damaged defensibility so you end up

damaged defensibility so you end up getting 15 copycat companies and the

getting 15 copycat companies and the

getting 15 copycat companies and the problem is most of these companies that

problem is most of these companies that

problem is most of these companies that have raised 50 to 100 million dollars in

have raised 50 to 100 million dollars in

have raised 50 to 100 million dollars in funding they won’t even be making that

funding they won’t even be making that

funding they won’t even be making that much revenue look at the number of

much revenue look at the number of

much revenue look at the number of companies that big buyers the googles

companies that big buyers the googles

companies that big buyers the googles the yahoos have bought and then they’ve

the yahoos have bought and then they’ve

the yahoos have bought and then they’ve almost become redundant within a couple

almost become redundant within a couple

almost become redundant within a couple years because a better shinier

years because a better shinier

years because a better shinier technology has come what’s up does how

technology has come what’s up does how

technology has come what’s up does how many of those acquisitions were just to

many of those acquisitions were just to

many of those acquisitions were just to keep them away from someone else or just

keep them away from someone else or just

keep them away from someone else or just a dwarf you know rival technology from

a dwarf you know rival technology from

a dwarf you know rival technology from coming up and eating into their market

coming up and eating into their market

coming up and eating into their market share I do want to say quickly keep your

share I do want to say quickly keep your

share I do want to say quickly keep your eye on facebook facebook connect

eye on facebook facebook connect

eye on facebook facebook connect facebook Insights facebook is already

facebook Insights facebook is already

facebook Insights facebook is already pretty much injected itself into pretty

pretty much injected itself into pretty

pretty much injected itself into pretty much every website that’s worth looking

much every website that’s worth looking

much every website that’s worth looking at they are pretty much building the

at they are pretty much building the

at they are pretty much building the groundwork the foundation infrastructure

groundwork the foundation infrastructure

groundwork the foundation infrastructure for their rival to add words but they’re

for their rival to add words but they’re

for their rival to add words but they’re also building the facade I’m kidding

also building the facade I’m kidding

also building the facade I’m kidding thanks ash thanks but they’ll be

thanks ash thanks but they’ll be

thanks ash thanks but they’ll be actually be able to target me based on

actually be able to target me based on

actually be able to target me based on my interests than you know my social

my interests than you know my social

my interests than you know my social graph which means we’ll be able to go to

graph which means we’ll be able to go to

graph which means we’ll be able to go to the same site at the same side same time

the same site at the same side same time

the same site at the same side same time see two different sets of ads and they

see two different sets of ads and they

see two different sets of ads and they might be served up by Facebook or they

might be served up by Facebook or they

might be served up by Facebook or they could they might just sell off that data

could they might just sell off that data

could they might just sell off that data to a network to do this I have no doubt

to a network to do this I have no doubt

to a network to do this I have no doubt that as we sit here pontificating about

that as we sit here pontificating about

that as we sit here pontificating about the industry Mark Zuckerberg is thinking

the industry Mark Zuckerberg is thinking

the industry Mark Zuckerberg is thinking about miraculous ways to make money off

about miraculous ways to make money off

about miraculous ways to make money off you and your profile and your social

you and your profile and your social

you and your profile and your social graph that you don’t want don’t want to

graph that you don’t want don’t want to

graph that you don’t want don’t want to find out and whatnot we’re going to take

find out and whatnot we’re going to take

find out and whatnot we’re going to take a short break but before we do we’re

a short break but before we do we’re

a short break but before we do we’re going to leave you on this stat why the

going to leave you on this stat why the

going to leave you on this stat why the ad networks are a bit scared so the

ad networks are a bit scared so the

ad networks are a bit scared so the money that will be shifting into video

money that will be shifting into video

money that will be shifting into video advertising online forty-three percent

advertising online forty-three percent

advertising online forty-three percent will come from display banners and less

will come from display banners and less

will come from display banners and less than forty will come from television

than forty will come from television

than forty will come from television buys what does that mean it means that

buys what does that mean it means that

buys what does that mean it means that display I think has a very very

display I think has a very very

display I think has a very very threatened future we can go ahead no is

threatened future we can go ahead no is

threatened future we can go ahead no is it we’re going to take a short break

it we’re going to take a short break

it we’re going to take a short break come back for lightning round and the

come back for lightning round and the

come back for lightning round and the email of the week

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