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HipMojo 12C: Apple’s iPod at 10


all right well welcome back to the third

all right well welcome back to the third installment of episode 12 we’re about to

installment of episode 12 we’re about to

installment of episode 12 we’re about to hit lightning round so last week we were

hit lightning round so last week we were

hit lightning round so last week we were talking about streaming media’s list of

talking about streaming media’s list of

talking about streaming media’s list of top 100 video companies online you noted

top 100 video companies online you noted

top 100 video companies online you noted that there was only one content company

that there was only one content company

that there was only one content company on there and you made it choke well

on there and you made it choke well

on there and you made it choke well maybe it wasn’t a joke that you’re going

maybe it wasn’t a joke that you’re going

maybe it wasn’t a joke that you’re going to build out on top 100 content creator

to build out on top 100 content creator

to build out on top 100 content creator list you started doing that yeah and I’m

list you started doing that yeah and I’m

list you started doing that yeah and I’m at 74 and this is not just like ash cans

at 74 and this is not just like ash cans

at 74 and this is not just like ash cans list I actually reached out to a number

list I actually reached out to a number

list I actually reached out to a number of people in the industry whom I respect

of people in the industry whom I respect

of people in the industry whom I respect who are well versed and who sort of

who are well versed and who sort of

who are well versed and who sort of cover or work in different spheres of

cover or work in different spheres of

cover or work in different spheres of online video and i’m actually at 74 i’m

online video and i’m actually at 74 i’m

online video and i’m actually at 74 i’m looking for the last 26 what I might go

looking for the last 26 what I might go

looking for the last 26 what I might go was so you’re looking for 26 more you’re

was so you’re looking for 26 more you’re

was so you’re looking for 26 more you’re hoping well who should be submitting to

hoping well who should be submitting to

hoping well who should be submitting to the list and what other process for

the list and what other process for

the list and what other process for getting my chosen how do I became number

getting my chosen how do I became number

getting my chosen how do I became number one as I get more than video blog okay

one as I get more than video blog okay

one as I get more than video blog okay so here’s the thing when I since this is

so here’s the thing when I since this is

so here’s the thing when I since this is lightning round and not mild drizzle on

lightning round and not mild drizzle on

lightning round and not mild drizzle on a warm afternoon we’re not going to

a warm afternoon we’re not going to

a warm afternoon we’re not going to chime in all that all I will say is if

chime in all that all I will say is if

chime in all that all I will say is if you’re watching this and you have an

you’re watching this and you have an

you’re watching this and you have an opinion on online video content just

opinion on online video content just

opinion on online video content just email me your thoughts at Ashwood

email me your thoughts at Ashwood

email me your thoughts at Ashwood watchmojo.com and then i will send you

watchmojo.com and then i will send you

watchmojo.com and then i will send you the criteria there’s a post i will send

the criteria there’s a post i will send

the criteria there’s a post i will send you you could share it within your

you you could share it within your

you you could share it within your community and your circle because what I

community and your circle because what I

community and your circle because what I did was I went in with a lot of

did was I went in with a lot of

did was I went in with a lot of admittedly we all do I went in with a

admittedly we all do I went in with a

admittedly we all do I went in with a lot of biases and oh I think it will

lot of biases and oh I think it will

lot of biases and oh I think it will cover this subcategory and not that sub

cover this subcategory and not that sub

cover this subcategory and not that sub category and frankly on multiple levels

category and frankly on multiple levels

category and frankly on multiple levels I’ve changed my mind and made it more

I’ve changed my mind and made it more

I’ve changed my mind and made it more inclusive more unique it’s actually

inclusive more unique it’s actually

inclusive more unique it’s actually shaping up to be quite good so I

shaping up to be quite good so I

shaping up to be quite good so I definitely want to get as many people

definitely want to get as many people

definitely want to get as many people early on involved and I’m guessing it’s

early on involved and I’m guessing it’s

early on involved and I’m guessing it’s going to be completed pretty soon and

going to be completed pretty soon and

going to be completed pretty soon and there’s a little bit of a twist which

there’s a little bit of a twist which

there’s a little bit of a twist which will you know divulge when we divulge

will you know divulge when we divulge

will you know divulge when we divulge the list so just email me at Ashford

the list so just email me at Ashford

the list so just email me at Ashford watchmojo.com and I’ll take you through

watchmojo.com and I’ll take you through

watchmojo.com and I’ll take you through all the details all right question to

all the details all right question to

all the details all right question to what do you think of Microsoft’s

what do you think of Microsoft’s

what do you think of Microsoft’s marketing all right um disclaimer I I

marketing all right um disclaimer I I

marketing all right um disclaimer I I used to do work for Microsoft I used to

used to do work for Microsoft I used to

used to do work for Microsoft I used to work on some of their social media

work on some of their social media

work on some of their social media campaigns here in Canada anyways I think

campaigns here in Canada anyways I think

campaigns here in Canada anyways I think they think they have a couple problems I

they think they have a couple problems I

they think they have a couple problems I think they have trouble with the chicken

think they have trouble with the chicken

think they have trouble with the chicken or the egg question for example they

or the egg question for example they

or the egg question for example they give away give a free black keys

give away give a free black keys

give away give a free black keys sir at their store in what Seattle

sir at their store in what Seattle

sir at their store in what Seattle Seattle yeah to get people to line up

Seattle yeah to get people to line up

Seattle yeah to get people to line up like um lines don’t lead to sales it’s

like um lines don’t lead to sales it’s

like um lines don’t lead to sales it’s because there’s a demand for your

because there’s a demand for your

because there’s a demand for your products that a line is created and then

products that a line is created and then

products that a line is created and then you know they kind of have this reverse

you know they kind of have this reverse

you know they kind of have this reverse causality problem but then if you also

causality problem but then if you also

causality problem but then if you also look at a lot of their branding

look at a lot of their branding

look at a lot of their branding campaigns over the last few years they

campaigns over the last few years they

campaigns over the last few years they seem to be completely screwed up even

seem to be completely screwed up even

seem to be completely screwed up even the I’m a PC campaign right there you

the I’m a PC campaign right there you

the I’m a PC campaign right there you launch this huge branding campaign that

launch this huge branding campaign that

launch this huge branding campaign that was framed by your main competitor

was framed by your main competitor

was framed by your main competitor you’re pretty much saying oh we’re

you’re pretty much saying oh we’re

you’re pretty much saying oh we’re trying to be that cool and you you spent

trying to be that cool and you you spent

trying to be that cool and you you spent advertising dollars on it I think what

advertising dollars on it I think what

advertising dollars on it I think what happens in the case of Microsoft a lot

happens in the case of Microsoft a lot

happens in the case of Microsoft a lot at least on the on the branding and add

at least on the on the branding and add

at least on the on the branding and add side is that you have an agency that

side is that you have an agency that

side is that you have an agency that works with them you have a bunch of

works with them you have a bunch of

works with them you have a bunch of mediocre admin I’m not saying they’re

mediocre admin I’m not saying they’re

mediocre admin I’m not saying they’re incompetent I’m just saying you know

incompetent I’m just saying you know

incompetent I’m just saying you know they’re not add geniuses and they have a

they’re not add geniuses and they have a

they’re not add geniuses and they have a budget that’s bigger than they know what

budget that’s bigger than they know what

budget that’s bigger than they know what to do with so they try to get creative

to do with so they try to get creative

to do with so they try to get creative and then they go to Microsoft which is

and then they go to Microsoft which is

and then they go to Microsoft which is probably really hungry to just do

probably really hungry to just do

probably really hungry to just do something hip and cool and they’ll sign

something hip and cool and they’ll sign

something hip and cool and they’ll sign off on anything that’s cute and cheeky

off on anything that’s cute and cheeky

off on anything that’s cute and cheeky but just because something’s cute and

but just because something’s cute and

but just because something’s cute and chic he doesn’t mean it’s going to move

chic he doesn’t mean it’s going to move

chic he doesn’t mean it’s going to move products and doesn’t mean it’s a good

products and doesn’t mean it’s a good

products and doesn’t mean it’s a good way to represent your products okay well

way to represent your products okay well

way to represent your products okay well puts nothing to add on that all right so

puts nothing to add on that all right so

puts nothing to add on that all right so comscore released some new numbers this

comscore released some new numbers this

comscore released some new numbers this way yes they right now they say that

way yes they right now they say that

way yes they right now they say that YouTube has forty percent of the US

YouTube has forty percent of the US

YouTube has forty percent of the US market share forty seven forty seven

market share forty seven forty seven

market share forty seven forty seven percent that’s right what do you think

percent that’s right what do you think

percent that’s right what do you think do you think YouTube is gaining or

do you think YouTube is gaining or

do you think YouTube is gaining or losing ground well obviously it’s

losing ground well obviously it’s

losing ground well obviously it’s gaining it was at forty three percent

gaining it was at forty three percent

gaining it was at forty three percent for your ground but market share yeah

for your ground but market share yeah

for your ground but market share yeah it’s gaining market share and it will

it’s gaining market share and it will

it’s gaining market share and it will continue to gain market share because

continue to gain market share because

continue to gain market share because unfortunately it’s a self-fulfilling

unfortunately it’s a self-fulfilling

unfortunately it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy the company with the biggest

prophecy the company with the biggest

prophecy the company with the biggest set of eyeballs is going to just ensure

set of eyeballs is going to just ensure

set of eyeballs is going to just ensure that other content creators are like

that other content creators are like

that other content creators are like well why do I need to be on the YouTube

well why do I need to be on the YouTube

well why do I need to be on the YouTube clone three through eight I just need my

clone three through eight I just need my

clone three through eight I just need my content on YouTube and the users are

content on YouTube and the users are

content on YouTube and the users are just going to keep going towards YouTube

just going to keep going towards YouTube

just going to keep going towards YouTube because that’s where all the content is

because that’s where all the content is

because that’s where all the content is however that’s really half the equation

however that’s really half the equation

however that’s really half the equation that what is really good I think help

that what is really good I think help

that what is really good I think help youtube take off in years to come is

youtube take off in years to come is

youtube take off in years to come is actually the shift towards over-the-top

actually the shift towards over-the-top

actually the shift towards over-the-top connected devices Google TV I don’t even

connected devices Google TV I don’t even

connected devices Google TV I don’t even really know what Google TV is right now

really know what Google TV is right now

really know what Google TV is right now that’s why they’re making the big rush

that’s why they’re making the big rush

that’s why they’re making the big rush towards maybe buying Hulu or doing some

towards maybe buying Hulu or doing some

towards maybe buying Hulu or doing some kind of deal and expanding once they

kind of deal and expanding once they

kind of deal and expanding once they really start to push all of that content

really start to push all of that content

really start to push all of that content into the living room and

into the living room and

into the living room and for that matter matter then I think

for that matter matter then I think

for that matter matter then I think YouTube will even have more upside and

YouTube will even have more upside and

YouTube will even have more upside and the last third dimension as to why

the last third dimension as to why

the last third dimension as to why YouTube will grow is take us we used to

YouTube will grow is take us we used to

YouTube will grow is take us we used to upload flash flv files which were fairly

upload flash flv files which were fairly

upload flash flv files which were fairly compressed low quality compared to

compressed low quality compared to

compressed low quality compared to higher resolution files we are now even

higher resolution files we are now even

higher resolution files we are now even just doing that we’re shooting in HD so

just doing that we’re shooting in HD so

just doing that we’re shooting in HD so there’s this evolution in terms of even

there’s this evolution in terms of even

there’s this evolution in terms of even the quality of the videos that are

the quality of the videos that are

the quality of the videos that are increasing at a torrid pace and I think

increasing at a torrid pace and I think

increasing at a torrid pace and I think for all those reasons over time YouTube

for all those reasons over time YouTube

for all those reasons over time YouTube is going to be this massive massive

is going to be this massive massive

is going to be this massive massive force in the marketplace fourth question

force in the marketplace fourth question

force in the marketplace fourth question the ipod turns 10 this week do you think

the ipod turns 10 this week do you think

the ipod turns 10 this week do you think that the ipod from a marketing

that the ipod from a marketing

that the ipod from a marketing perspective not so much product but from

perspective not so much product but from

perspective not so much product but from a marketing perspective especially

a marketing perspective especially

a marketing perspective especially considering that then the iphone and the

considering that then the iphone and the

considering that then the iphone and the ipad came although you could compare

ipad came although you could compare

ipad came although you could compare them to those is the ipod the most

them to those is the ipod the most

them to those is the ipod the most successful product every when you think

successful product every when you think

successful product every when you think about it how it totally changed the

about it how it totally changed the

about it how it totally changed the industry changed the broader tech

industry changed the broader tech

industry changed the broader tech industry change Apple etc etc I think it

industry change Apple etc etc I think it

industry change Apple etc etc I think it was huge for the same reasons that the

was huge for the same reasons that the

was huge for the same reasons that the Walkman was huge you know back in the

Walkman was huge you know back in the

Walkman was huge you know back in the 80s and the 90s it was it was a big

80s and the 90s it was it was a big

80s and the 90s it was it was a big thing everyone had a Walkman or wanted a

thing everyone had a Walkman or wanted a

thing everyone had a Walkman or wanted a Walkman it kind of there were other

Walkman it kind of there were other

Walkman it kind of there were other portable cassette players and CD players

portable cassette players and CD players

portable cassette players and CD players but the Walkman was was the staple so in

but the Walkman was was the staple so in

but the Walkman was was the staple so in that sense yes I think the ipod was huge

that sense yes I think the ipod was huge

that sense yes I think the ipod was huge both for and one of the most successful

both for and one of the most successful

both for and one of the most successful products because of what it did for

products because of what it did for

products because of what it did for music portability also for how it was a

music portability also for how it was a

music portability also for how it was a springboard for you know the iPhone and

springboard for you know the iPhone and

springboard for you know the iPhone and the iPad it got them into developing

the iPad it got them into developing

the iPad it got them into developing this mobile hardware and technology I

this mobile hardware and technology I

this mobile hardware and technology I would be worried though that Apple won’t

would be worried though that Apple won’t

would be worried though that Apple won’t be able to follow through to the next

be able to follow through to the next

be able to follow through to the next generation of cool hip portable gadget

generation of cool hip portable gadget

generation of cool hip portable gadget just like Sony had the Walkman

just like Sony had the Walkman

just like Sony had the Walkman innovators dilemma yeah they had the

innovators dilemma yeah they had the

innovators dilemma yeah they had the Walkman but they they never really did

Walkman but they they never really did

Walkman but they they never really did anything when it got to mp3 players and

anything when it got to mp3 players and

anything when it got to mp3 players and now I hate the flag of deadhorse no pun

now I hate the flag of deadhorse no pun

now I hate the flag of deadhorse no pun intended by the way but now that Steve

intended by the way but now that Steve

intended by the way but now that Steve Jobs is gone I’d be very concerned that

Jobs is gone I’d be very concerned that

Jobs is gone I’d be very concerned that Apple can’t continue to keep following

Apple can’t continue to keep following

Apple can’t continue to keep following that that innovation through okay

that that innovation through okay

that that innovation through okay interesting email the week email the

interesting email the week email the

interesting email the week email the week comes from Jeanette from New York

week comes from Jeanette from New York

week comes from Jeanette from New York City she says ash Netflix has lost fifty

City she says ash Netflix has lost fifty

City she says ash Netflix has lost fifty percent of its value in less than three

percent of its value in less than three

percent of its value in less than three months do you think Wall Street likes to

months do you think Wall Street likes to

months do you think Wall Street likes to punish companies that plan long-term

punish companies that plan long-term

punish companies that plan long-term look at what happened to Amazon Amazon

look at what happened to Amazon Amazon

look at what happened to Amazon Amazon is taking a hit on the Kindle even

is taking a hit on the Kindle even

is taking a hit on the Kindle even though it looks like the Kindle will

though it looks like the Kindle will

though it looks like the Kindle will become like the fastest most you know

become like the fastest most you know

become like the fastest most you know craziest selling device of all time

craziest selling device of all time

craziest selling device of all time and they got their stock took a hit yeah

and they got their stock took a hit yeah

and they got their stock took a hit yeah I think Wall Street cares about

I think Wall Street cares about

I think Wall Street cares about short-term profits look at what’s

short-term profits look at what’s

short-term profits look at what’s happening with Occupy Wall Street why is

happening with Occupy Wall Street why is

happening with Occupy Wall Street why is that happening because people are like

that happening because people are like

that happening because people are like realizing that Wall Street analysts and

realizing that Wall Street analysts and

realizing that Wall Street analysts and all that only care about short-term

all that only care about short-term

all that only care about short-term Henry Blodgett one of my idols he came

Henry Blodgett one of my idols he came

Henry Blodgett one of my idols he came out this great article that said America

out this great article that said America

out this great article that said America should be very thankful for what Amazon

should be very thankful for what Amazon

should be very thankful for what Amazon is doing which is basically hiring a lot

is doing which is basically hiring a lot

is doing which is basically hiring a lot of people investing in the future

of people investing in the future

of people investing in the future investing in technology that’s going to

investing in technology that’s going to

investing in technology that’s going to you know shape America in the next

you know shape America in the next

you know shape America in the next decade to come Netflix is a bit more

decade to come Netflix is a bit more

decade to come Netflix is a bit more unique Netflix is unique in the sense

unique Netflix is unique in the sense

unique Netflix is unique in the sense that their strategy makes a lot of sense

that their strategy makes a lot of sense

that their strategy makes a lot of sense but Netflix is whole history has been

but Netflix is whole history has been

but Netflix is whole history has been loved by analysts hated by analyst loved

loved by analysts hated by analyst loved

loved by analysts hated by analyst loved by analysts hated by the analysts now I

by analysts hated by the analysts now I

by analysts hated by the analysts now I said 34 weeks ago on this very show that

said 34 weeks ago on this very show that

said 34 weeks ago on this very show that netflix has no business being a 12

netflix has no business being a 12

netflix has no business being a 12 billion dollar company I said I’m not

billion dollar company I said I’m not

billion dollar company I said I’m not telling you to sell or buy it but you

telling you to sell or buy it but you

telling you to sell or buy it but you could have read between the lines and

could have read between the lines and

could have read between the lines and said oh my god he’s sort of saying why

said oh my god he’s sort of saying why

said oh my god he’s sort of saying why is Netflix worth 12 to 13 billion which

is Netflix worth 12 to 13 billion which

is Netflix worth 12 to 13 billion which I think was too high I’m not telling you

I think was too high I’m not telling you

I think was too high I’m not telling you to go out and buy Netflix right now I’m

to go out and buy Netflix right now I’m

to go out and buy Netflix right now I’m really not but I think probably the

really not but I think probably the

really not but I think probably the selling was a bit overdone whether or

selling was a bit overdone whether or

selling was a bit overdone whether or not it’s going to go back to where it

not it’s going to go back to where it

not it’s going to go back to where it was I don’t think so I don’t think

was I don’t think so I don’t think

was I don’t think so I don’t think Netflix was it in 2011 or 2012 it made

Netflix was it in 2011 or 2012 it made

Netflix was it in 2011 or 2012 it made sense for them to be worth 12 13 billion

sense for them to be worth 12 13 billion

sense for them to be worth 12 13 billion but there it would make sense for them

but there it would make sense for them

but there it would make sense for them to be worth a bit more than 3 billion

to be worth a bit more than 3 billion

to be worth a bit more than 3 billion and yes Wall Street always looks at

and yes Wall Street always looks at

and yes Wall Street always looks at short-term unfortunately it’s in

short-term unfortunately it’s in

short-term unfortunately it’s in hindsight the mere fact that analysts

hindsight the mere fact that analysts

hindsight the mere fact that analysts come out the day after Netflix goes down

come out the day after Netflix goes down

come out the day after Netflix goes down by forty percent and they say sell the

by forty percent and they say sell the

by forty percent and they say sell the stock what what the hell shouldn’t you

stock what what the hell shouldn’t you

stock what what the hell shouldn’t you be telling me this yesterday you know

be telling me this yesterday you know

be telling me this yesterday you know what I mean so I think Wall Street and

what I mean so I think Wall Street and

what I mean so I think Wall Street and the analysts themselves are being

the analysts themselves are being

the analysts themselves are being disrupted it’s less important what they

disrupted it’s less important what they

disrupted it’s less important what they think I think sometimes companies do

think I think sometimes companies do

think I think sometimes companies do things for reasons that are unclear but

things for reasons that are unclear but

things for reasons that are unclear but long-term they prevail and I think

long-term they prevail and I think

long-term they prevail and I think Amazon prevailed will prevail netflix I

Amazon prevailed will prevail netflix I

Amazon prevailed will prevail netflix I think will probably turn around whether

think will probably turn around whether

think will probably turn around whether or not it’s going to reach the previous

or not it’s going to reach the previous

or not it’s going to reach the previous highs i think is a bit harder which was

highs i think is a bit harder which was

highs i think is a bit harder which was the famous economist that kind of argued

the famous economist that kind of argued

the famous economist that kind of argued that in the long run we’re all dead

that in the long run we’re all dead

that in the long run we’re all dead pee-wee Herman no I’m kidding who’s not

pee-wee Herman no I’m kidding who’s not

pee-wee Herman no I’m kidding who’s not P waivers good we’re going to take a

P waivers good we’re going to take a

P waivers good we’re going to take a break again for one week we’ll be back

break again for one week we’ll be back

break again for one week we’ll be back same time same place next week

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