welcome to this installment of hip module show 12 i’m your host ashcan
module show 12 i’m your host ashcan
module show 12 i’m your host ashcan Carver solution and I’m CT more and
Carver solution and I’m CT more and
Carver solution and I’m CT more and today we’re going to talk about a bunch
today we’re going to talk about a bunch
today we’re going to talk about a bunch of stuff we’re going to talk about who
of stuff we’re going to talk about who
of stuff we’re going to talk about who not could replace Steve Jobs of course
not could replace Steve Jobs of course
not could replace Steve Jobs of course but who then media the business press is
but who then media the business press is
but who then media the business press is going to look at as the next man or
going to look at as the next man or
going to look at as the next man or woman to lead the tech world in the 21st
woman to lead the tech world in the 21st
woman to lead the tech world in the 21st century and in the second segment we’re
century and in the second segment we’re
century and in the second segment we’re going to talk about a potential shift in
going to talk about a potential shift in
going to talk about a potential shift in the video world which is going from the
the video world which is going from the
the video world which is going from the focus of creating evergreen video so
focus of creating evergreen video so
focus of creating evergreen video so timeless videos to focusing on real-time
timeless videos to focusing on real-time
timeless videos to focusing on real-time news let’s take it away with segment one
news let’s take it away with segment one
news let’s take it away with segment one all right so um you wrote an article
all right so um you wrote an article
all right so um you wrote an article again ash shocking on TechCrunch you
again ash shocking on TechCrunch you
again ash shocking on TechCrunch you talk about some of the people i want i
talk about some of the people i want i
talk about some of the people i want i want to go through this list but what i
want to go through this list but what i
want to go through this list but what i think is interesting is the whole thing
think is interesting is the whole thing
think is interesting is the whole thing about why Steve Jobs was it was this
about why Steve Jobs was it was this
about why Steve Jobs was it was this talisman why he was such a media darling
talisman why he was such a media darling
talisman why he was such a media darling is he kind of affected all our lives you
is he kind of affected all our lives you
is he kind of affected all our lives you know well I’ve gone off just because
know well I’ve gone off just because
know well I’ve gone off just because some people might not know what is it
some people might not know what is it
some people might not know what is it talisman tube well according to your
talisman tube well according to your
talisman tube well according to your article it is the member of a football
article it is the member of a football
article it is the member of a football or soccer team who could make or break
or soccer team who could make or break
or soccer team who could make or break the game if he’s there you’re gonna win
the game if he’s there you’re gonna win
the game if he’s there you’re gonna win you’re going all the way and if he’s not
you’re going all the way and if he’s not
you’re going all the way and if he’s not your toast I’m a big soccer fan you
your toast I’m a big soccer fan you
your toast I’m a big soccer fan you always hear its own so the towels man
always hear its own so the towels man
always hear its own so the towels man he’s injured is he going to be in as you
he’s injured is he going to be in as you
he’s injured is he going to be in as you know the towels meant clinches the goal
know the towels meant clinches the goal
know the towels meant clinches the goal and all that yeah it’s basically the
and all that yeah it’s basically the
and all that yeah it’s basically the game breaker it’s the guy who you know
game breaker it’s the guy who you know
game breaker it’s the guy who you know is the leader the sedan’s of the world
is the leader the sedan’s of the world
is the leader the sedan’s of the world and whatnot so yeah basically when I
and whatnot so yeah basically when I
and whatnot so yeah basically when I first suggested the article to erick
first suggested the article to erick
first suggested the article to erick schonfeld of TechCrunch he was like this
schonfeld of TechCrunch he was like this
schonfeld of TechCrunch he was like this is a pretty interesting list but he goes
is a pretty interesting list but he goes
is a pretty interesting list but he goes yeah it’s not who’s the next Steve Jobs
yeah it’s not who’s the next Steve Jobs
yeah it’s not who’s the next Steve Jobs he goes I get it that’s not what you’re
he goes I get it that’s not what you’re
he goes I get it that’s not what you’re saying it’s disrespectful it’s
saying it’s disrespectful it’s
saying it’s disrespectful it’s impossible Al Gore said Steve Jobs comes
impossible Al Gore said Steve Jobs comes
impossible Al Gore said Steve Jobs comes along every 250 years I think that’s
along every 250 years I think that’s
along every 250 years I think that’s actually quite accurate when you just
actually quite accurate when you just
actually quite accurate when you just look at what he did in the last decade
look at what he did in the last decade
look at what he did in the last decade of his life let alone the best you know
of his life let alone the best you know
of his life let alone the best you know existence he had but this notion that
existence he had but this notion that
existence he had but this notion that the tech media world the business press
the tech media world the business press
the tech media world the business press is always going to look at someone we
is always going to look at someone we
is always going to look at someone we all need media darlings right there you
all need media darlings right there you
all need media darlings right there you go you know I guess they’re their
go you know I guess they’re their
go you know I guess they’re their talismans for their companies and their
talismans for their companies and their
talismans for their companies and their media darlings just because there’s no
media darlings just because there’s no
media darlings just because there’s no rival but they don’t have that same
rival but they don’t have that same
rival but they don’t have that same called personality because let’s face it
called personality because let’s face it
called personality because let’s face it when Steve Jobs died there was this
when Steve Jobs died there was this
when Steve Jobs died there was this really bizarre public outpouring of
really bizarre public outpouring of
really bizarre public outpouring of grief by just every unlike many mass
grief by just every unlike many mass
grief by just every unlike many mass consumers but why do you think that was
consumers but why do you think that was
consumers but why do you think that was I have my theory but let’s hear your
I have my theory but let’s hear your
I have my theory but let’s hear your people really love their iPhones like I
people really love their iPhones like I
people really love their iPhones like I think mobile devices are really personal
think mobile devices are really personal
think mobile devices are really personal you take them with you every
you take them with you every
you take them with you every we’re like you would never let your
we’re like you would never let your
we’re like you would never let your girlfriend into your iPhone you let her
girlfriend into your iPhone you let her
girlfriend into your iPhone you let her into your laptop uh okay we could go out
into your laptop uh okay we could go out
into your laptop uh okay we could go out a tangent there what’s interesting is
a tangent there what’s interesting is
a tangent there what’s interesting is that you focus on the iphone and you’re
that you focus on the iphone and you’re
that you focus on the iphone and you’re right as much as the ipod was the
right as much as the ipod was the
right as much as the ipod was the transformative device that then set the
transformative device that then set the
transformative device that then set the stage for the iphone and the ipad and as
stage for the iphone and the ipad and as
stage for the iphone and the ipad and as much as people are passionate about
much as people are passionate about
much as people are passionate about music you’re right that there is that
music you’re right that there is that
music you’re right that there is that certain element of a wireless you know
certain element of a wireless you know
certain element of a wireless you know mobile device that people care about but
mobile device that people care about but
mobile device that people care about but I’m actually going to play devil’s
I’m actually going to play devil’s
I’m actually going to play devil’s advocate and say it’s also because of
advocate and say it’s also because of
advocate and say it’s also because of how Steve Jobs allow people to really
how Steve Jobs allow people to really
how Steve Jobs allow people to really really engage with their media well then
really engage with their media well then
really engage with their media well then I’m the idea I thought okay so you mean
I’m the idea I thought okay so you mean
I’m the idea I thought okay so you mean the whole it’s the experience it was
the whole it’s the experience it was
the whole it’s the experience it was like that was the portal for your
like that was the portal for your
like that was the portal for your average Joe they don’t know what iOS is
average Joe they don’t know what iOS is
average Joe they don’t know what iOS is I’ll just say this I think the main
I’ll just say this I think the main
I’ll just say this I think the main reason why Steve Jobs was so revered
reason why Steve Jobs was so revered
reason why Steve Jobs was so revered believe it or not is he I mean I’m not
believe it or not is he I mean I’m not
believe it or not is he I mean I’m not saying he was some of his critics might
saying he was some of his critics might
saying he was some of his critics might say that he was a bit of an asshole with
say that he was a bit of an asshole with
say that he was a bit of an asshole with with some of his executives for lack of
with some of his executives for lack of
with some of his executives for lack of better words and others but but I
better words and others but but I
better words and others but but I actually think that that that’s besides
actually think that that that’s besides
actually think that that that’s besides the point I think it’s that he wasn’t
the point I think it’s that he wasn’t
the point I think it’s that he wasn’t driven by money and I think that there
driven by money and I think that there
driven by money and I think that there was a fundament and that’s maybe because
was a fundament and that’s maybe because
was a fundament and that’s maybe because he had so much of it and he said in the
he had so much of it and he said in the
he had so much of it and he said in the great steve jobs biography by Walter
great steve jobs biography by Walter
great steve jobs biography by Walter Isaacson he said it he goes I went from
Isaacson he said it he goes I went from
Isaacson he said it he goes I went from being poor and not caring about money to
being poor and not caring about money to
being poor and not caring about money to being very rich and not caring about
being very rich and not caring about
being very rich and not caring about money but I think that’s the main
money but I think that’s the main
money but I think that’s the main difference I’ve worked with people who
difference I’ve worked with people who
difference I’ve worked with people who care about money and don’t care about
care about money and don’t care about
care about money and don’t care about money or let’s say our driven bunny by
money or let’s say our driven bunny by
money or let’s say our driven bunny by money and not driven by money and
money and not driven by money and
money and not driven by money and there’s a fundamental difference in how
there’s a fundamental difference in how
there’s a fundamental difference in how much you like those people no it’s true
much you like those people no it’s true
much you like those people no it’s true it’s true I think those who are driven
it’s true I think those who are driven
it’s true I think those who are driven by money as their first objective and
by money as their first objective and
by money as their first objective and there’s nothing wrong with that it’s
there’s nothing wrong with that it’s
there’s nothing wrong with that it’s harder to work with them it’s harder to
harder to work with them it’s harder to
harder to work with them it’s harder to work for them it’s harder to want to go
work for them it’s harder to want to go
work for them it’s harder to want to go to battle for them and all that and I
to battle for them and all that and I
to battle for them and all that and I think Steve Jobs he may have been very
think Steve Jobs he may have been very
think Steve Jobs he may have been very harsh to hear you nobody wanted to get
harsh to hear you nobody wanted to get
harsh to hear you nobody wanted to get in an elevator with him but at the end
in an elevator with him but at the end
in an elevator with him but at the end of the day he had a greater calling so
of the day he had a greater calling so
of the day he had a greater calling so yeah basically wrote the store wrote
yeah basically wrote the store wrote
yeah basically wrote the store wrote this article listed a bunch of guys so
this article listed a bunch of guys so
this article listed a bunch of guys so let’s go down the list I’ll let you
let’s go down the list I’ll let you
let’s go down the list I’ll let you throw in your two cents as we go you
throw in your two cents as we go you
throw in your two cents as we go you start off with the insiders are guys
start off with the insiders are guys
start off with the insiders are guys from Apple so we’re talking about Scott
from Apple so we’re talking about Scott
from Apple so we’re talking about Scott Forstall Tim Cook and Jonathan live well
Forstall Tim Cook and Jonathan live well
Forstall Tim Cook and Jonathan live well okay so business we came out and said
okay so business we came out and said
okay so business we came out and said that Scott Forstall was like the
that Scott Forstall was like the
that Scott Forstall was like the emerging star he runs their mobile
emerging star he runs their mobile
emerging star he runs their mobile strategy the youngest executive and that
strategy the youngest executive and that
strategy the youngest executive and that sort of all got me thinking okay the
sort of all got me thinking okay the
sort of all got me thinking okay the time is right it’s not these you know
time is right it’s not these you know
time is right it’s not these you know it’s not insensitive to write such an
it’s not insensitive to write such an
it’s not insensitive to write such an article if business we can do it then
article if business we can do it then
article if business we can do it then I’m going to go all out and lists a
I’m going to go all out and lists a
I’m going to go all out and lists a bunch Tim Cook is the nuts and bolts you
bunch Tim Cook is the nuts and bolts you
bunch Tim Cook is the nuts and bolts you know formerly coo replace jobs I think
know formerly coo replace jobs I think
know formerly coo replace jobs I think he’s sort of like the
he’s sort of like the
he’s sort of like the literally like the details guy and
literally like the details guy and
literally like the details guy and Jonathan Ive the johnny is is the
Jonathan Ive the johnny is is the
Jonathan Ive the johnny is is the creative guy I think he’s the one that
creative guy I think he’s the one that
creative guy I think he’s the one that apparently jobs gave carte blanche to do
apparently jobs gave carte blanche to do
apparently jobs gave carte blanche to do whatever he wants I would say that it’s
whatever he wants I would say that it’s
whatever he wants I would say that it’s going to be very hard for that company
going to be very hard for that company
going to be very hard for that company not so much of all you know when Walt
not so much of all you know when Walt
not so much of all you know when Walt Disney died there was a lot of great
Disney died there was a lot of great
Disney died there was a lot of great executives who didn’t necessarily know
executives who didn’t necessarily know
executives who didn’t necessarily know you know what would Walt Disney do and
you know what would Walt Disney do and
you know what would Walt Disney do and that’s what sort of froze them in in
that’s what sort of froze them in in
that’s what sort of froze them in in terms of inaction I don’t think that’s
terms of inaction I don’t think that’s
terms of inaction I don’t think that’s the issue with Apple they got a true
the issue with Apple they got a true
the issue with Apple they got a true amazing pipeline and all that I think
amazing pipeline and all that I think
amazing pipeline and all that I think the bigger issue is they just have so
the bigger issue is they just have so
the bigger issue is they just have so much cash and they’re so dominant that I
much cash and they’re so dominant that I
much cash and they’re so dominant that I think complacency might become the
think complacency might become the
think complacency might become the bigger issue and I’d also be worried
bigger issue and I’d also be worried
bigger issue and I’d also be worried that these these three guys Scott Tim
that these these three guys Scott Tim
that these these three guys Scott Tim and Jonathan like if they get into a
and Jonathan like if they get into a
and Jonathan like if they get into a pissing contest and they have something
pissing contest and they have something
pissing contest and they have something to prove the like I can carry Steve
to prove the like I can carry Steve
to prove the like I can carry Steve I was like a seed that could that could
I was like a seed that could that could
I was like a seed that could that could totally not as I move on so enterprise
totally not as I move on so enterprise
totally not as I move on so enterprise software guys you got Larry Ellison the
software guys you got Larry Ellison the
software guys you got Larry Ellison the founder of oracle and Markab video I
founder of oracle and Markab video I
founder of oracle and Markab video I think they’re both yeah they’re both
think they’re both yeah they’re both
think they’re both yeah they’re both great Ellison actually is an investor in
great Ellison actually is an investor in
great Ellison actually is an investor in Benioff company I would say that the
Benioff company I would say that the
Benioff company I would say that the challenge here is that these guys are
challenge here is that these guys are
challenge here is that these guys are too much in the enterprise sort of
too much in the enterprise sort of
too much in the enterprise sort of goalless you know they’re not sexy
goalless you know they’re not sexy
goalless you know they’re not sexy enough I mean I think what made job so
enough I mean I think what made job so
enough I mean I think what made job so unique is that people sort of use this
unique is that people sort of use this
unique is that people sort of use this products so great geniuses but not going
products so great geniuses but not going
products so great geniuses but not going to be the talisman I think although
to be the talisman I think although
to be the talisman I think although Ellison gives fantastic quotes well
Ellison gives fantastic quotes well
Ellison gives fantastic quotes well maybe can become a writer than uh this
maybe can become a writer than uh this
maybe can become a writer than uh this one I was baffled by Bill Gates okay we
one I was baffled by Bill Gates okay we
one I was baffled by Bill Gates okay we all know who Gates is but like let’s
all know who Gates is but like let’s
all know who Gates is but like let’s face it he had his window he was a
face it he had his window he was a
face it he had his window he was a pretty big media darling for a while
pretty big media darling for a while
pretty big media darling for a while then he got in Clips by the smaller guy
then he got in Clips by the smaller guy
then he got in Clips by the smaller guy like there’s no matter what he does I
like there’s no matter what he does I
like there’s no matter what he does I can’t see him coming back as as anything
can’t see him coming back as as anything
can’t see him coming back as as anything true I think he’s too wealthy to really
true I think he’s too wealthy to really
true I think he’s too wealthy to really even care but the bottom line is for a
even care but the bottom line is for a
even care but the bottom line is for a decade he left Microsoft replaced by
decade he left Microsoft replaced by
decade he left Microsoft replaced by Steve Ballmer then he was chief
Steve Ballmer then he was chief
Steve Ballmer then he was chief architect I actually think he could come
architect I actually think he could come
architect I actually think he could come back and you know he could do some
back and you know he could do some
back and you know he could do some interesting things because he’s not
interesting things because he’s not
interesting things because he’s not necessarily driven by money now it
necessarily driven by money now it
necessarily driven by money now it doesn’t mean that he needs to come back
doesn’t mean that he needs to come back
doesn’t mean that he needs to come back and be the CEO by the way but right now
and be the CEO by the way but right now
and be the CEO by the way but right now his main focus has basically been
his main focus has basically been
his main focus has basically been malaria and great things like that great
malaria and great things like that great
malaria and great things like that great causes like that I’m just saying if he
causes like that I’m just saying if he
causes like that I’m just saying if he started to chime in he you know put it
started to chime in he you know put it
started to chime in he you know put it this way his stock is so low because of
this way his stock is so low because of
this way his stock is so low because of everything you’ve heard you know the
everything you’ve heard you know the
everything you’ve heard you know the massive enamor and I meant that people
massive enamor and I meant that people
massive enamor and I meant that people have with Steve Jobs almost came at the
have with Steve Jobs almost came at the
have with Steve Jobs almost came at the expense of saying that well Bill Gates
expense of saying that well Bill Gates
expense of saying that well Bill Gates was this accidental hack that just stole
was this accidental hack that just stole
was this accidental hack that just stole ideas even though Steve Jobs also stole
ideas even though Steve Jobs also stole
ideas even though Steve Jobs also stole a bunch of ideas so I would say Bill
a bunch of ideas so I would say Bill
a bunch of ideas so I would say Bill Gates
Gates
Gates on the list because his stock is
on the list because his stock is
on the list because his stock is relatively low people actually don’t
relatively low people actually don’t
relatively low people actually don’t expect that much from him on this front
expect that much from him on this front
expect that much from him on this front and this talisman context that he could
and this talisman context that he could
and this talisman context that he could surprise next all right um Michael Dell
surprise next all right um Michael Dell
surprise next all right um Michael Dell chairman of dough yeah so Michael Dell
chairman of dough yeah so Michael Dell
chairman of dough yeah so Michael Dell came out in 97 and when Jobs came back
came out in 97 and when Jobs came back
came out in 97 and when Jobs came back was asked what would you do if you were
was asked what would you do if you were
was asked what would you do if you were in Steve Jobs shoes and he said I would
in Steve Jobs shoes and he said I would
in Steve Jobs shoes and he said I would shut down the company and give the money
shut down the company and give the money
shut down the company and give the money back to the shareholders and obviously
back to the shareholders and obviously
back to the shareholders and obviously this came back to bite Michael Dell in
this came back to bite Michael Dell in
this came back to bite Michael Dell in the butt and the day when Apple
the butt and the day when Apple
the butt and the day when Apple surpassed Adele in terms of market value
surpassed Adele in terms of market value
surpassed Adele in terms of market value Steve Jobs sent out an email
Steve Jobs sent out an email
Steve Jobs sent out an email company-wide and said look I guess
company-wide and said look I guess
company-wide and said look I guess Michael Dell was wrong and now Apple is
Michael Dell was wrong and now Apple is
Michael Dell was wrong and now Apple is worth 10 times as much as they’ll
worth 10 times as much as they’ll
worth 10 times as much as they’ll ultimately I just I think dell is
ultimately I just I think dell is
ultimately I just I think dell is brilliant adele is really smart in terms
brilliant adele is really smart in terms
brilliant adele is really smart in terms of how he disrupted the pc industry
of how he disrupted the pc industry
of how he disrupted the pc industry initially with the way that he did the
initially with the way that he did the
initially with the way that he did the direct to consumer model i just don’t
direct to consumer model i just don’t
direct to consumer model i just don’t think dell is all that passionate about
think dell is all that passionate about
think dell is all that passionate about anything other than dell a computer or
anything other than dell a computer or
anything other than dell a computer or dell company or dell himself in user
dell company or dell himself in user
dell company or dell himself in user experience exactly and that’s what i
experience exactly and that’s what i
experience exactly and that’s what i think made jobs so great is because his
think made jobs so great is because his
think made jobs so great is because his imagination was wild he kept pushing us
imagination was wild he kept pushing us
imagination was wild he kept pushing us along it was a populist product man yeah
along it was a populist product man yeah
along it was a populist product man yeah and part of that could be because once
and part of that could be because once
and part of that could be because once you realize your time is limited on
you realize your time is limited on
you realize your time is limited on planet earth you do take Chris and you
planet earth you do take Chris and you
planet earth you do take Chris and you push the envelope but it is what it is
push the envelope but it is what it is
push the envelope but it is what it is next all right um this guy’s already
next all right um this guy’s already
next all right um this guy’s already been behind this person in the year mark
been behind this person in the year mark
been behind this person in the year mark zuckerberg founder of facebook what i
zuckerberg founder of facebook what i
zuckerberg founder of facebook what i find is interesting about him as i
find is interesting about him as i
find is interesting about him as i actually don’t think he’s what carries
actually don’t think he’s what carries
actually don’t think he’s what carries the company is definitely the face of it
the company is definitely the face of it
the company is definitely the face of it facebook has made too many dumb
facebook has made too many dumb
facebook has made too many dumb decisions so either they were his ideas
decisions so either they were his ideas
decisions so either they were his ideas or he didn’t have the common sense to
or he didn’t have the common sense to
or he didn’t have the common sense to push back and they’re a little bit slow
push back and they’re a little bit slow
push back and they’re a little bit slow on some things because they launch new
on some things because they launch new
on some things because they launch new features only after some startup comes
features only after some startup comes
features only after some startup comes along and gives them the idea i don’t
along and gives them the idea i don’t
along and gives them the idea i don’t see the same push the same drive true
see the same push the same drive true
see the same push the same drive true but the guy is 24 he’s running a company
but the guy is 24 he’s running a company
but the guy is 24 he’s running a company with 800 million users even if some of
with 800 million users even if some of
with 800 million users even if some of them are not active my point here is
them are not active my point here is
them are not active my point here is this guy has the platform and the runway
this guy has the platform and the runway
this guy has the platform and the runway to basically transform markets the way
to basically transform markets the way
to basically transform markets the way that jobs that jobs did it through
that jobs that jobs did it through
that jobs that jobs did it through creative genius market marketing
creative genius market marketing
creative genius market marketing salesmanship technical you know know how
salesmanship technical you know know how
salesmanship technical you know know how even though he was in a programmer or
even though he was in a programmer or
even though he was in a programmer or coder but my point is if Zuckerberg
coder but my point is if Zuckerberg
coder but my point is if Zuckerberg decides to get and launch the facebook
decides to get and launch the facebook
decides to get and launch the facebook phone it can move markets because he has
phone it can move markets because he has
phone it can move markets because he has that critical mass right well I did
that critical mass right well I did
that critical mass right well I did steal one of Google Android developers
steal one of Google Android developers
steal one of Google Android developers over to their team there has been rumors
over to their team there has been rumors
over to their team there has been rumors about a mobile operating system but
about a mobile operating system but
about a mobile operating system but nothing Blissett he’s 24 he’s allowed to
nothing Blissett he’s 24 he’s allowed to
nothing Blissett he’s 24 he’s allowed to make some mistakes jobs golden era I
make some mistakes jobs golden era I
make some mistakes jobs golden era I think respectfully was not the first
think respectfully was not the first
think respectfully was not the first wave was probably the last decade the
wave was probably the last decade the
wave was probably the last decade the last decade what he did he’s disrupted
last decade what he did he’s disrupted
last decade what he did he’s disrupted four or five new industries built
four or five new industries built
four or five new industries built individual uni built units that if on a
individual uni built units that if on a
individual uni built units that if on a standalone basis would be fortune 50
standalone basis would be fortune 50
standalone basis would be fortune 50 companies next I want him to keep going
companies next I want him to keep going
companies next I want him to keep going a little fast out here Sean Parker you
a little fast out here Sean Parker you
a little fast out here Sean Parker you got to be kidding me he’s the Napster
got to be kidding me he’s the Napster
got to be kidding me he’s the Napster guy beyond that he hasn’t really
guy beyond that he hasn’t really
guy beyond that he hasn’t really disrupted or change anything he just
disrupted or change anything he just
disrupted or change anything he just managed to get his hands into things yes
managed to get his hands into things yes
managed to get his hands into things yes you could argue that he’s at the right
you could argue that he’s at the right
you could argue that he’s at the right place at the right time he says I’ve
place at the right time he says I’ve
place at the right time he says I’ve changed you know history three times or
changed you know history three times or
changed you know history three times or whatever the bottom line is it’s a lot
whatever the bottom line is it’s a lot
whatever the bottom line is it’s a lot about who can give sound bites Steve
about who can give sound bites Steve
about who can give sound bites Steve Jobs was probably best that you know
Jobs was probably best that you know
Jobs was probably best that you know salesmanship and you know managing the
salesmanship and you know managing the
salesmanship and you know managing the stage and all that Sean Parker now that
stage and all that Sean Parker now that
stage and all that Sean Parker now that his net worth is soaring thanks to his
his net worth is soaring thanks to his
his net worth is soaring thanks to his stake in facebook Sean Parker knows how
stake in facebook Sean Parker knows how
stake in facebook Sean Parker knows how to get on stage and say things that
to get on stage and say things that
to get on stage and say things that attract an audience that’s why he’s on
attract an audience that’s why he’s on
attract an audience that’s why he’s on the list right jobs was really good at
the list right jobs was really good at
the list right jobs was really good at five things let’s say tech design
five things let’s say tech design
five things let’s say tech design marketing sales and business altogether
marketing sales and business altogether
marketing sales and business altogether and and Parker knows how to sort of
and and Parker knows how to sort of
and and Parker knows how to sort of manage you know there’s not a microphone
manage you know there’s not a microphone
manage you know there’s not a microphone he doesn’t like and I think that’s and I
he doesn’t like and I think that’s and I
he doesn’t like and I think that’s and I think the only reason he still gets
think the only reason he still gets
think the only reason he still gets access to microphones was because of the
access to microphones was because of the
access to microphones was because of the facebook movie i think that would that
facebook movie i think that would that
facebook movie i think that would that was his second but yeah mostly maybe
was his second but yeah mostly maybe
was his second but yeah mostly maybe you’ll be right but i doubt it really
you’ll be right but i doubt it really
you’ll be right but i doubt it really Evan Williams founder ever bullier I
Evan Williams founder ever bullier I
Evan Williams founder ever bullier I think Evan Williams legacy is the the
think Evan Williams legacy is the the
think Evan Williams legacy is the the Twitter CEO is secondary to the fact
Twitter CEO is secondary to the fact
Twitter CEO is secondary to the fact that you know he did found blogger which
that you know he did found blogger which
that you know he did found blogger which was a main communication platform then
was a main communication platform then
was a main communication platform then Twitter there’s something there I also
Twitter there’s something there I also
Twitter there’s something there I also think that you know let history be the
think that you know let history be the
think that you know let history be the judge of what happens to him five ten
judge of what happens to him five ten
judge of what happens to him five ten years from now I think he will be thumbs
years from now I think he will be thumbs
years from now I think he will be thumbs up or thumbs down based on his next
up or thumbs down based on his next
up or thumbs down based on his next thing not twitter and blogger believe it
thing not twitter and blogger believe it
thing not twitter and blogger believe it or not well no that’s that’s what I say
or not well no that’s that’s what I say
or not well no that’s that’s what I say I just don’t see the potential there a
I just don’t see the potential there a
I just don’t see the potential there a blogger was great but it sold off it
blogger was great but it sold off it
blogger was great but it sold off it didn’t change blogging in any way
didn’t change blogging in any way
didn’t change blogging in any way whatsoever but it was it did change
whatsoever but it was it did change
whatsoever but it was it did change publishing it did a lawyer change
publishing it did a lawyer change
publishing it did a lawyer change published in the last decade if you
published in the last decade if you
published in the last decade if you think about basically the Iraq which are
think about basically the Iraq which are
think about basically the Iraq which are nine eleven the Iraq war and Barack
nine eleven the Iraq war and Barack
nine eleven the Iraq war and Barack Obama blogging and those three events
Obama blogging and those three events
Obama blogging and those three events just fed off fed off one another and it
just fed off fed off one another and it
just fed off fed off one another and it just reached a greater thing now you
just reached a greater thing now you
just reached a greater thing now you could argue WordPress eight bloggers
could argue WordPress eight bloggers
could argue WordPress eight bloggers launch sure you could argue that Twitter
launch sure you could argue that Twitter
launch sure you could argue that Twitter and Tumblr have changed bloggers and
and Tumblr have changed bloggers and
and Tumblr have changed bloggers and blogging
blogging
blogging fine but that’s neither here nor there
fine but that’s neither here nor there
fine but that’s neither here nor there all right Sergey Brin and Larry Page I
all right Sergey Brin and Larry Page I
all right Sergey Brin and Larry Page I think that’s interesting especially now
think that’s interesting especially now
think that’s interesting especially now that Larry Page is actually you know the
that Larry Page is actually you know the
that Larry Page is actually you know the CEO Google and more than one of the
CEO Google and more than one of the
CEO Google and more than one of the founding fog of founding partners why
founding fog of founding partners why
founding fog of founding partners why them I I think they’re their heyday has
them I I think they’re their heyday has
them I I think they’re their heyday has passed I think they’ll still continue to
passed I think they’ll still continue to
passed I think they’ll still continue to be huge but I don’t think saving me
be huge but I don’t think saving me
be huge but I don’t think saving me Jamie’s in the Zuckerberg they are
Jamie’s in the Zuckerberg they are
Jamie’s in the Zuckerberg they are running the largest internet company the
running the largest internet company the
running the largest internet company the web or mobile web is the future they
web or mobile web is the future they
web or mobile web is the future they have the platform fair enough Jeff Bezos
have the platform fair enough Jeff Bezos
have the platform fair enough Jeff Bezos yeah which amazon yeah well he was like
yeah which amazon yeah well he was like
yeah which amazon yeah well he was like pick man of the year time 99 I think
pick man of the year time 99 I think
pick man of the year time 99 I think what she’s doing with the kindle what
what she’s doing with the kindle what
what she’s doing with the kindle what he’s doing with you know amazon web
he’s doing with you know amazon web
he’s doing with you know amazon web services he is probably whom a lot of
services he is probably whom a lot of
services he is probably whom a lot of people would say number one or number
people would say number one or number
people would say number one or number two on this list because of Amazon’s
two on this list because of Amazon’s
two on this list because of Amazon’s unique role touching media and
unique role touching media and
unique role touching media and technology what i think is interesting
technology what i think is interesting
technology what i think is interesting going back to the kindle is its opening
going back to the kindle is its opening
going back to the kindle is its opening up publishing even just as much as
up publishing even just as much as
up publishing even just as much as blogging software did yeah anyone can go
blogging software did yeah anyone can go
blogging software did yeah anyone can go publishing yeah yeah and they’ve made it
publishing yeah yeah and they’ve made it
publishing yeah yeah and they’ve made it very easy all right the paypal trio yeah
very easy all right the paypal trio yeah
very easy all right the paypal trio yeah so the paypal trio of this trio I put
so the paypal trio of this trio I put
so the paypal trio of this trio I put Elon Musk max left chin Peter Thiel you
Elon Musk max left chin Peter Thiel you
Elon Musk max left chin Peter Thiel you should actually include Reid Hoffman who
should actually include Reid Hoffman who
should actually include Reid Hoffman who was also there and done great things
was also there and done great things
was also there and done great things especially with linkedin and his
especially with linkedin and his
especially with linkedin and his investment of this trio Elon Musk is
investment of this trio Elon Musk is
investment of this trio Elon Musk is probably the most unique one given what
probably the most unique one given what
probably the most unique one given what he’s doing with space and cars and all
he’s doing with space and cars and all
he’s doing with space and cars and all that D others I mean Peter chills a
that D others I mean Peter chills a
that D others I mean Peter chills a fantastic investor Hoffman very
fantastic investor Hoffman very
fantastic investor Hoffman very successful linkedin max levchin I think
successful linkedin max levchin I think
successful linkedin max levchin I think his stock took a hit with slide to be
his stock took a hit with slide to be
his stock took a hit with slide to be perfectly honest but he did orchestrate
perfectly honest but he did orchestrate
perfectly honest but he did orchestrate the paypal the merger that led to paypal
the paypal the merger that led to paypal
the paypal the merger that led to paypal that sold to ebay so i think he still
that sold to ebay so i think he still
that sold to ebay so i think he still has a lot of outside okay um and then
has a lot of outside okay um and then
has a lot of outside okay um and then you know the founders of kazan skype
you know the founders of kazan skype
you know the founders of kazan skype yeah so skype i mean ok so cuz i was
yeah so skype i mean ok so cuz i was
yeah so skype i mean ok so cuz i was very disruptive it basically built on
very disruptive it basically built on
very disruptive it basically built on Napster but then i think skype was
Napster but then i think skype was
Napster but then i think skype was really the transformative industry that
really the transformative industry that
really the transformative industry that decimated the telco world i think in
decimated the telco world i think in
decimated the telco world i think in terms of juice that was like that made
terms of juice that was like that made
terms of juice that was like that made the titanic look like a smooth boat ride
the titanic look like a smooth boat ride
the titanic look like a smooth boat ride it’s interesting what these guys are
it’s interesting what these guys are
it’s interesting what these guys are going to do i think they’ve always been
going to do i think they’ve always been
going to do i think they’ve always been aware of an industry they could disrupt
aware of an industry they could disrupt
aware of an industry they could disrupt whether or not they care about the media
whether or not they care about the media
whether or not they care about the media frankly is probably what makes them
frankly is probably what makes them
frankly is probably what makes them outsiders on this list but definitely I
outsiders on this list but definitely I
outsiders on this list but definitely I mean they’ve done interesting things in
mean they’ve done interesting things in
mean they’ve done interesting things in the last few years to merit being on the
the last few years to merit being on the
the last few years to merit being on the list all right um a name i’m not
list all right um a name i’m not
list all right um a name i’m not actually familiar with mark
actually familiar with mark
actually familiar with mark Anderson Mark Anderson is the inventor
Anderson Mark Anderson is the inventor
Anderson Mark Anderson is the inventor of the browser and he’s a he’s a
of the browser and he’s a he’s a
of the browser and he’s a he’s a big-time investor now i would say Marc
big-time investor now i would say Marc
big-time investor now i would say Marc Andreessen probably has more credibility
Andreessen probably has more credibility
Andreessen probably has more credibility than anybody else on this list to be
than anybody else on this list to be
than anybody else on this list to be perfectly honest with you now he is
perfectly honest with you now he is
perfectly honest with you now he is moved from being an entrepreneur to an
moved from being an entrepreneur to an
moved from being an entrepreneur to an investor so he’s got his hands on many
investor so he’s got his hands on many
investor so he’s got his hands on many things he bought skype along with silver
things he bought skype along with silver
things he bought skype along with silver lake private equity and then flipped it
lake private equity and then flipped it
lake private equity and then flipped it he bought it for about 2 billion sold it
he bought it for about 2 billion sold it
he bought it for about 2 billion sold it for eight billion within two years so he
for eight billion within two years so he
for eight billion within two years so he seems to have that midas touch time will
seems to have that midas touch time will
seems to have that midas touch time will tell and lastly was Jack Dorsey Jack
tell and lastly was Jack Dorsey Jack
tell and lastly was Jack Dorsey Jack Dorsey is the inventor of Twitter and
Dorsey is the inventor of Twitter and
Dorsey is the inventor of Twitter and the square so I would say if anyone on
the square so I would say if anyone on
the square so I would say if anyone on this list has that potential to really
this list has that potential to really
this list has that potential to really be number one whom a lot of people on
be number one whom a lot of people on
be number one whom a lot of people on the TechCrunch common said number one
the TechCrunch common said number one
the TechCrunch common said number one number one Jack Dorsey the thing that ad
number one Jack Dorsey the thing that ad
number one Jack Dorsey the thing that ad says cachet is the fact that like jobs
says cachet is the fact that like jobs
says cachet is the fact that like jobs he got fired from his company and then
he got fired from his company and then
he got fired from his company and then he came back and is now running square
he came back and is now running square
he came back and is now running square as CEO and he’s had a prod product at
as CEO and he’s had a prod product at
as CEO and he’s had a prod product at Twitter so I think that adds to sort of
Twitter so I think that adds to sort of
Twitter so I think that adds to sort of like destiny as the potential next
like destiny as the potential next
like destiny as the potential next talisman of the tech industry we can
talisman of the tech industry we can
talisman of the tech industry we can take a short break and we’re going to
take a short break and we’re going to
take a short break and we’re going to come back and talk about evergreen
come back and talk about evergreen
come back and talk about evergreen videos versus new real-time news
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