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Women and the Battle Within | Anupama Joshi | TEDxTughlaqRd


[Music]

[Music] fate whispers to the woman that you

fate whispers to the woman that you

fate whispers to the woman that you cannot withstand the storm the woman

cannot withstand the storm the woman

cannot withstand the storm the woman whispers I am the storm that has been

whispers I am the storm that has been

whispers I am the storm that has been the essence of my journey in the Indian

the essence of my journey in the Indian

the essence of my journey in the Indian Air Force an invisible war within a

Air Force an invisible war within a

Air Force an invisible war within a battle for equal opportunity it was way

battle for equal opportunity it was way

battle for equal opportunity it was way back in 1992 that the government of

back in 1992 that the government of

back in 1992 that the government of India opened his door for women to join

India opened his door for women to join

India opened his door for women to join the Armed Forces to tell you the truth

the Armed Forces to tell you the truth

the Armed Forces to tell you the truth the glamour of uniform was not the only

the glamour of uniform was not the only

the glamour of uniform was not the only thing but the feel to be able to rough

thing but the feel to be able to rough

thing but the feel to be able to rough it out in the front years was more of my

it out in the front years was more of my

it out in the front years was more of my colleague 25,000 women applied to be

colleague 25,000 women applied to be

colleague 25,000 women applied to be part of the elite force and I was

part of the elite force and I was

part of the elite force and I was fortunate enough to be one of the

fortunate enough to be one of the

fortunate enough to be one of the pioneers the adrenaline rush and the

pioneers the adrenaline rush and the

pioneers the adrenaline rush and the pride you get when you’ve done a uniform

pride you get when you’ve done a uniform

pride you get when you’ve done a uniform it’s something phenomenal we were thrown

it’s something phenomenal we were thrown

it’s something phenomenal we were thrown into the Air Force Academy grueling

into the Air Force Academy grueling

into the Air Force Academy grueling schedule the day will start with a run

schedule the day will start with a run

schedule the day will start with a run and before you know it you would be on

and before you know it you would be on

and before you know it you would be on parade drill cross-country weapon

parade drill cross-country weapon

parade drill cross-country weapon training and jungle camp and middle of

training and jungle camp and middle of

training and jungle camp and middle of the night it was Air Force way of

the night it was Air Force way of

the night it was Air Force way of indoctrinating us what the military says

indoctrinating us what the military says

indoctrinating us what the military says to make you give you an unquestionable

to make you give you an unquestionable

to make you give you an unquestionable allegiance to the set up many lessons

allegiance to the set up many lessons

allegiance to the set up many lessons learned but the prime being when you are

learned but the prime being when you are

learned but the prime being when you are asked to jump you do not ask why just

asked to jump you do not ask why just

asked to jump you do not ask why just ask how high the morning my blues with

ask how high the morning my blues with

ask how high the morning my blues with pride and glory I report to my first

pride and glory I report to my first

pride and glory I report to my first place of posting and I walk down the

place of posting and I walk down the

place of posting and I walk down the corridors of the officers mess and I

corridors of the officers mess and I

corridors of the officers mess and I asked the mess in charge where is the

asked the mess in charge where is the

asked the mess in charge where is the room keys to the room for pilot officer

room keys to the room for pilot officer

room keys to the room for pilot officer Joshi that was me and he looks at me

Joshi that was me and he looks at me

Joshi that was me and he looks at me very quizzed and he says Sahib time I

very quizzed and he says Sahib time I

very quizzed and he says Sahib time I cannot tell you the in creditors took on

cannot tell you the in creditors took on

cannot tell you the in creditors took on his face when I said man he saw ha hoo

his face when I said man he saw ha hoo

his face when I said man he saw ha hoo and it really struck me then that men

and it really struck me then that men

and it really struck me then that men actually were not prepared to accept

actually were not prepared to accept

actually were not prepared to accept women as officers and I was soon to

women as officers and I was soon to

women as officers and I was soon to realize that he was not the only one

realize that he was not the only one

realize that he was not the only one it’s not about crafting a narrative here

it’s not about crafting a narrative here

it’s not about crafting a narrative here but the ground reality you felt like

but the ground reality you felt like

but the ground reality you felt like being watched all the time

being watched all the time

being watched all the time the seniors would not know how to treat

the seniors would not know how to treat

the seniors would not know how to treat you whether you were a lady or a junior

you whether you were a lady or a junior

you whether you were a lady or a junior officer your colleagues who would be

officer your colleagues who would be

officer your colleagues who would be sitting in a dining hall and it will be

sitting in a dining hall and it will be

sitting in a dining hall and it will be bustling with laughter and energy

bustling with laughter and energy

bustling with laughter and energy there’ll be a pin drop silence the

there’ll be a pin drop silence the

there’ll be a pin drop silence the moment you walked in because they did

moment you walked in because they did

moment you walked in because they did not how to socially react to a female

not how to socially react to a female

not how to socially react to a female officer every minute and every time you

officer every minute and every time you

officer every minute and every time you were treated Morrises woman less as an

were treated Morrises woman less as an

were treated Morrises woman less as an officer once I’ve faced an incident of

officer once I’ve faced an incident of

officer once I’ve faced an incident of insubordination which is mostly unheard

insubordination which is mostly unheard

insubordination which is mostly unheard of in a military establishment when a

of in a military establishment when a

of in a military establishment when a man placed under me refused to take

man placed under me refused to take

man placed under me refused to take orders and I’m when I complained it was

orders and I’m when I complained it was

orders and I’m when I complained it was I who was counseled saying that the man

I who was counseled saying that the man

I who was counseled saying that the man in question belonged to a state and he

in question belonged to a state and he

in question belonged to a state and he was socially engineered not to take

was socially engineered not to take

was socially engineered not to take orders from the woman it was then we

orders from the woman it was then we

orders from the woman it was then we realized and many such incidents made us

realized and many such incidents made us

realized and many such incidents made us realize that though the opportunity was

realize that though the opportunity was

realize that though the opportunity was given there a huge amount of barriers

given there a huge amount of barriers

given there a huge amount of barriers needed to be broken huge amount of

needed to be broken huge amount of

needed to be broken huge amount of mindset needed to be changed and if I

mindset needed to be changed and if I

mindset needed to be changed and if I may say it has taken in an airforce 20

may say it has taken in an airforce 20

may say it has taken in an airforce 20 years to actually break the sound

years to actually break the sound

years to actually break the sound barrier when they have finally accepted

barrier when they have finally accepted

barrier when they have finally accepted women in a combat role and you now have

women in a combat role and you now have

women in a combat role and you now have women in the frontline fighting force

women in the frontline fighting force

women in the frontline fighting force however before reaching there there’s a

however before reaching there there’s a

however before reaching there there’s a long drawn history of legal battle and

long drawn history of legal battle and

long drawn history of legal battle and that’s where my story begins so when the

that’s where my story begins so when the

that’s where my story begins so when the euphoria of induction of women was over

euphoria of induction of women was over

euphoria of induction of women was over the reality bit us because then we

the reality bit us because then we

the reality bit us because then we realized that if it was courses

realized that if it was courses

realized that if it was courses promotions postings

promotions postings

promotions postings means we did not have the right

means we did not have the right

means we did not have the right entitlement women were inducted

entitlement women were inducted

entitlement women were inducted initially for five years and we were not

initially for five years and we were not

initially for five years and we were not given these because they called it we

given these because they called it we

given these because they called it we were in an experimental zone as we were

were in an experimental zone as we were

were in an experimental zone as we were nearing a completion of her first

nearing a completion of her first

nearing a completion of her first engagement I put up a representation

engagement I put up a representation

engagement I put up a representation asking why women should not be given a

asking why women should not be given a

asking why women should not be given a permanent place like their male

permanent place like their male

permanent place like their male counterpart I did not hear anything from

counterpart I did not hear anything from

counterpart I did not hear anything from them but suddenly after seven months we

them but suddenly after seven months we

them but suddenly after seven months we were given an extension of four years

were given an extension of four years

were given an extension of four years brilliant all of us very happy life

brilliant all of us very happy life

brilliant all of us very happy life moved on and I must admit the life in

moved on and I must admit the life in

moved on and I must admit the life in military is something very amazing as we

military is something very amazing as we

military is something very amazing as we were coming close to her second tenure I

were coming close to her second tenure I

were coming close to her second tenure I represented again asking what are the

represented again asking what are the

represented again asking what are the career prospects for women in the Armed

career prospects for women in the Armed

career prospects for women in the Armed Forces silence did not hear for long and

Forces silence did not hear for long and

Forces silence did not hear for long and I get a reply saying that it is a matter

I get a reply saying that it is a matter

I get a reply saying that it is a matter of try service because the Army and the

of try service because the Army and the

of try service because the Army and the Navy are also involved and the matter is

Navy are also involved and the matter is

Navy are also involved and the matter is lying with the Ministry of Defence fine

lying with the Ministry of Defence fine

lying with the Ministry of Defence fine I waited for the answer your past no

I waited for the answer your past no

I waited for the answer your past no reply I put my third application asking

reply I put my third application asking

reply I put my third application asking for an interview with the Chief of Air

for an interview with the Chief of Air

for an interview with the Chief of Air Staff he said the same thing on Obama

Staff he said the same thing on Obama

Staff he said the same thing on Obama wait the matter is with the Ministry of

wait the matter is with the Ministry of

wait the matter is with the Ministry of Defence and wait I did one year past I

Defence and wait I did one year past I

Defence and wait I did one year past I put my next application by then the

put my next application by then the

put my next application by then the chief had changed the new chief had

chief had changed the new chief had

chief had changed the new chief had taken over and I did not get any reply

taken over and I did not get any reply

taken over and I did not get any reply but we got six year extension into

but we got six year extension into

but we got six year extension into service but that was not really exciting

service but that was not really exciting

service but that was not really exciting the anger and what hounded me was this

the anger and what hounded me was this

the anger and what hounded me was this ad-hoc ISM and what I always wanted to

ad-hoc ISM and what I always wanted to

ad-hoc ISM and what I always wanted to question is that why we cannot get a

question is that why we cannot get a

question is that why we cannot get a permanent place and why women can’t

permanent place and why women can’t

permanent place and why women can’t fully continue their tenure and why a

fully continue their tenure and why a

fully continue their tenure and why a woman does not have a choice to serve

woman does not have a choice to serve

woman does not have a choice to serve they can

they can

they can which is their constitutional right not

to give up I put up another application

to give up I put up another application this time to the supreme commander of

this time to the supreme commander of

this time to the supreme commander of the Armed Forces that’s the president of

the Armed Forces that’s the president of

the Armed Forces that’s the president of India

India

India my application hasn’t seen the light of

my application hasn’t seen the light of

my application hasn’t seen the light of day so I wanted to move forward by then

day so I wanted to move forward by then

day so I wanted to move forward by then it was six application and six years had

it was six application and six years had

it was six application and six years had gone by I put up on an RTI and my RTI

gone by I put up on an RTI and my RTI

gone by I put up on an RTI and my RTI application was stonewalled by saying

application was stonewalled by saying

application was stonewalled by saying that the matters of human resource and

that the matters of human resource and

that the matters of human resource and establishment in military is of national

establishment in military is of national

establishment in military is of national importance and does not fall under the

importance and does not fall under the

importance and does not fall under the ambit of RTI what was there left to do

ambit of RTI what was there left to do

ambit of RTI what was there left to do knock at the doors of the courts by then

knock at the doors of the courts by then

knock at the doors of the courts by then a large number of women had also joined

a large number of women had also joined

a large number of women had also joined the forces I went ahead contacted many

the forces I went ahead contacted many

the forces I went ahead contacted many of them so that we can do a collective

of them so that we can do a collective

of them so that we can do a collective representation and it can become a class

representation and it can become a class

representation and it can become a class these only one came forward and thank

these only one came forward and thank

these only one came forward and thank you squad related Oksana for believing

you squad related Oksana for believing

you squad related Oksana for believing in me we went to the court with a very

in me we went to the court with a very

in me we went to the court with a very simple prayer that we should be given a

simple prayer that we should be given a

simple prayer that we should be given a permanent place in the Air Force on the

permanent place in the Air Force on the

permanent place in the Air Force on the basis of a efficiency and not on the

basis of a efficiency and not on the

basis of a efficiency and not on the basis of a gender you must understand

basis of a gender you must understand

basis of a gender you must understand that this was a very daunting task for

that this was a very daunting task for

that this was a very daunting task for us because we were fighting an

us because we were fighting an

us because we were fighting an organization which is extremely

organization which is extremely

organization which is extremely structured hierarchical and disciplined

structured hierarchical and disciplined

structured hierarchical and disciplined three years into the corridors of Delhi

three years into the corridors of Delhi

three years into the corridors of Delhi High Court

High Court

High Court we found our success and it was in 2010

we found our success and it was in 2010

we found our success and it was in 2010 that the landmark judgment came that the

that the landmark judgment came that the

that the landmark judgment came that the women will be given a permanent place in

women will be given a permanent place in

women will be given a permanent place in the Armed Forces

the Armed Forces

the Armed Forces [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] many learnings and prime being you may

many learnings and prime being you may

many learnings and prime being you may have the courage you may have the

have the courage you may have the

have the courage you may have the conviction but it is the perseverance

conviction but it is the perseverance

conviction but it is the perseverance that shall prevail there were lots of

that shall prevail there were lots of

that shall prevail there were lots of lessons taught in the classrooms which

lessons taught in the classrooms which

lessons taught in the classrooms which came in handy and as the Chinese

came in handy and as the Chinese

came in handy and as the Chinese strategist sons who will say in his art

strategist sons who will say in his art

strategist sons who will say in his art of war is you must make your war into a

of war is you must make your war into a

of war is you must make your war into a crusade it should not be about oneself

crusade it should not be about oneself

crusade it should not be about oneself and it should be about of a group and

and it should be about of a group and

and it should be about of a group and the victory shall come from the most

the victory shall come from the most

the victory shall come from the most unexpected quarters and I must

unexpected quarters and I must

unexpected quarters and I must acknowledge that in battle of equal

acknowledge that in battle of equal

acknowledge that in battle of equal opportunity the larger support came from

opportunity the larger support came from

opportunity the larger support came from the men

the men

the men the men who inducted us the superiors

the men who inducted us the superiors

the men who inducted us the superiors and our colleagues who believed in us

and our colleagues who believed in us

and our colleagues who believed in us and the judges were all men Roxana and I

and the judges were all men Roxana and I

and the judges were all men Roxana and I were reinstated back into the service

were reinstated back into the service

were reinstated back into the service it’s a history in the Armed Forces

it’s a history in the Armed Forces

it’s a history in the Armed Forces we did not join for different reasons

we did not join for different reasons

we did not join for different reasons but it’s important to know that the

but it’s important to know that the

but it’s important to know that the battle was for equal opportunity and I

battle was for equal opportunity and I

battle was for equal opportunity and I want to leave you with the thought that

want to leave you with the thought that

want to leave you with the thought that being a soldier is not only about

being a soldier is not only about

being a soldier is not only about courage it’s about sacrifice also and

courage it’s about sacrifice also and

courage it’s about sacrifice also and don’t try to teach a woman that so for

don’t try to teach a woman that so for

don’t try to teach a woman that so for all you wonderful women and men may you

all you wonderful women and men may you

all you wonderful women and men may you save your path and live with the motto

save your path and live with the motto

save your path and live with the motto of the airforce napalms personal deep

of the airforce napalms personal deep

of the airforce napalms personal deep thumb may you touch the sky with glory

thumb may you touch the sky with glory

thumb may you touch the sky with glory you

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