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Why the US Needs Paid Parental Leave | Anna Steffeney | TEDxSanJuanIsland


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[Music] this is my son Gabriel who I had while

this is my son Gabriel who I had while

this is my son Gabriel who I had while living abroad in Germany not only does

living abroad in Germany not only does

living abroad in Germany not only does Germany have great beer but great

Germany have great beer but great

Germany have great beer but great maternity leave when I told my boss I

maternity leave when I told my boss I

maternity leave when I told my boss I was newly pregnant he said

was newly pregnant he said

was newly pregnant he said congratulations let’s talk about who

congratulations let’s talk about who

congratulations let’s talk about who were going to apprentice in to your role

were going to apprentice in to your role

were going to apprentice in to your role as it was expected I would be out for at

as it was expected I would be out for at

as it was expected I would be out for at least a year

least a year

least a year see I was entitled to one year

see I was entitled to one year

see I was entitled to one year government stipend pay leave and up to

government stipend pay leave and up to

government stipend pay leave and up to three years of job protected leave

three years of job protected leave

three years of job protected leave during that year I was able to go on my

during that year I was able to go on my

during that year I was able to go on my journey into motherhood and not worry

journey into motherhood and not worry

journey into motherhood and not worry whether or not my job would be there

whether or not my job would be there

whether or not my job would be there when I got back

when I got back

when I got back I’d miss benefits or career

I’d miss benefits or career

I’d miss benefits or career opportunities or be perceived as less

opportunities or be perceived as less

opportunities or be perceived as less committed by my colleagues instead I

committed by my colleagues instead I

committed by my colleagues instead I didn’t have to make that difficult

didn’t have to make that difficult

didn’t have to make that difficult everyday choice between a newborn and a

everyday choice between a newborn and a

everyday choice between a newborn and a job no guilt no fear just simple

job no guilt no fear just simple

job no guilt no fear just simple acceptance that a mother should be with

acceptance that a mother should be with

acceptance that a mother should be with a new baby now contrast that with the

a new baby now contrast that with the

a new baby now contrast that with the birth of my second son here in the US

birth of my second son here in the US

birth of my second son here in the US after we moved back to the US and we

after we moved back to the US and we

after we moved back to the US and we were considering having another child I

were considering having another child I

were considering having another child I quickly realized the conversation here

quickly realized the conversation here

quickly realized the conversation here is framed more around career versus

is framed more around career versus

is framed more around career versus family in addition it became evident

family in addition it became evident

family in addition it became evident that there still exists many taboos in

that there still exists many taboos in

that there still exists many taboos in the workplace for example when I’d ask

the workplace for example when I’d ask

the workplace for example when I’d ask colleagues what do I need to do when

colleagues what do I need to do when

colleagues what do I need to do when taking parental leave here in the u.s. I

taking parental leave here in the u.s. I

taking parental leave here in the u.s. I was told to keep it hidden as long as

was told to keep it hidden as long as

was told to keep it hidden as long as possible

possible

possible now I lived in Germany for almost over

now I lived in Germany for almost over

now I lived in Germany for almost over eight years at first I didn’t understand

eight years at first I didn’t understand

eight years at first I didn’t understand what it was until I realized it was the

what it was until I realized it was the

what it was until I realized it was the baby I was supposed to keep

baby I was supposed to keep

baby I was supposed to keep the baby hidden as long as possible how

the baby hidden as long as possible how

the baby hidden as long as possible how was I to do that some of the advice I

was I to do that some of the advice I

was I to do that some of the advice I received was to tuck in my shirt wear

received was to tuck in my shirt wear

received was to tuck in my shirt wear loose-fitting clothing buy a cardigan

you may have heard the u.s. is the only

you may have heard the u.s. is the only industrialized nation to not offer paid

industrialized nation to not offer paid

industrialized nation to not offer paid leave when I hear that headline

leave when I hear that headline

leave when I hear that headline I think of a map that looks like this

I think of a map that looks like this

I think of a map that looks like this you know depicting industrialized versus

you know depicting industrialized versus

you know depicting industrialized versus non industrialized countries causing me

non industrialized countries causing me

non industrialized countries causing me to think surely there must be a bunch of

to think surely there must be a bunch of

to think surely there must be a bunch of non industrialized countries that don’t

non industrialized countries that don’t

non industrialized countries that don’t offer pay leave

offer pay leave

offer pay leave however this headline does not paint an

however this headline does not paint an

however this headline does not paint an accurate picture of reality the reality

accurate picture of reality the reality

accurate picture of reality the reality is this this is how the rest of the

is this this is how the rest of the

is this this is how the rest of the world thinks of paid maternity leave all

world thinks of paid maternity leave all

world thinks of paid maternity leave all the countries in blue have a mandated

the countries in blue have a mandated

the countries in blue have a mandated paid leave policy on the books all the

paid leave policy on the books all the

paid leave policy on the books all the countries in black do not three Papua

countries in black do not three Papua

countries in black do not three Papua New Guinea Suriname and the United

New Guinea Suriname and the United

New Guinea Suriname and the United States now granted some of the countries

States now granted some of the countries

States now granted some of the countries in blue do not afford the same level of

in blue do not afford the same level of

in blue do not afford the same level of economic opportunity to women as in the

economic opportunity to women as in the

economic opportunity to women as in the US but a 1996 report to the US Congress

US but a 1996 report to the US Congress

US but a 1996 report to the US Congress on family medical leave policies found

on family medical leave policies found

on family medical leave policies found that a hundred percent of the women who

that a hundred percent of the women who

that a hundred percent of the women who didn’t take or who were eligible for the

didn’t take or who were eligible for the

didn’t take or who were eligible for the unpaid leave and didn’t take it did so

unpaid leave and didn’t take it did so

unpaid leave and didn’t take it did so because they could not afford to right

because they could not afford to right

because they could not afford to right now in the United States the Family

now in the United States the Family

now in the United States the Family Medical Leave Act or FMLA affords 12

Medical Leave Act or FMLA affords 12

Medical Leave Act or FMLA affords 12 weeks of job protected leave that means

weeks of job protected leave that means

weeks of job protected leave that means your job is there for 12 weeks but you

your job is there for 12 weeks but you

your job is there for 12 weeks but you do not get paid

do not get paid

do not get paid and because FMLA excludes part-time

and because FMLA excludes part-time

and because FMLA excludes part-time workers and employees who’ve been at

workers and employees who’ve been at

workers and employees who’ve been at their companies for less than a year 40%

their companies for less than a year 40%

their companies for less than a year 40% of our population actually gets nothing

let me be absolutely clear it is

let me be absolutely clear it is imperative the united states pass a paid

imperative the united states pass a paid

imperative the united states pass a paid family leave law the data is undeniable

family leave law the data is undeniable

family leave law the data is undeniable on the positive health and economic

on the positive health and economic

on the positive health and economic outcomes a country experiences when

outcomes a country experiences when

outcomes a country experiences when enacting paid parental leave research

enacting paid parental leave research

enacting paid parental leave research has linked a laundry list of improved

has linked a laundry list of improved

has linked a laundry list of improved outcomes with longer maternity leave

outcomes with longer maternity leave

outcomes with longer maternity leave such as decreased maternal depression

such as decreased maternal depression

such as decreased maternal depression rates increased child immunization rates

rates increased child immunization rates

rates increased child immunization rates longer breastfeeding times a 2011 study

longer breastfeeding times a 2011 study

longer breastfeeding times a 2011 study of a hundred and forty-one countries

of a hundred and forty-one countries

of a hundred and forty-one countries found that with an increase of ten weeks

found that with an increase of ten weeks

found that with an increase of ten weeks of paid maternity leave its associated

of paid maternity leave its associated

of paid maternity leave its associated with a ten percent reduction in the

with a ten percent reduction in the

with a ten percent reduction in the infant mortality rate elements of the

infant mortality rate elements of the

infant mortality rate elements of the paid leave business case make into our

paid leave business case make into our

paid leave business case make into our headlines on almost a daily basis and I

headlines on almost a daily basis and I

headlines on almost a daily basis and I want to take a moment to thank the many

want to take a moment to thank the many

want to take a moment to thank the many women and men who are currently fighting

women and men who are currently fighting

women and men who are currently fighting for paid family leave in the u.s. today

for paid family leave in the u.s. today

for paid family leave in the u.s. today their work is essential to the health

their work is essential to the health

their work is essential to the health and prosperity of our country however

and prosperity of our country however

and prosperity of our country however there is some information that doesn’t

there is some information that doesn’t

there is some information that doesn’t make it into our headlines especially

make it into our headlines especially

make it into our headlines especially how technology could help erase the

how technology could help erase the

how technology could help erase the workplace taboos that I experienced

workplace taboos that I experienced

workplace taboos that I experienced decrease the gender wage gap improve

decrease the gender wage gap improve

decrease the gender wage gap improve equality in the work and home this

equality in the work and home this

equality in the work and home this combination of policy plus technology is

combination of policy plus technology is

combination of policy plus technology is something I like to call policy

something I like to call policy

something I like to call policy effectiveness let’s go back to my

effectiveness let’s go back to my

effectiveness let’s go back to my Germany example remember the generous

Germany example remember the generous

Germany example remember the generous pay leave policy 14 months of government

pay leave policy 14 months of government

pay leave policy 14 months of government stipend leave split between moms and

stipend leave split between moms and

stipend leave split between moms and dads and up to three years of job

dads and up to three years of job

dads and up to three years of job protection as generous as that may be

protection as generous as that may be

protection as generous as that may be policy is not necessarily a panacea

policy is not necessarily a panacea

policy is not necessarily a panacea because in Germany the generous policy

because in Germany the generous policy

because in Germany the generous policy combined with lack of affordable quality

combined with lack of affordable quality

combined with lack of affordable quality childcare actually encourages women to

childcare actually encourages women to

childcare actually encourages women to to

to

to acceptable alternatives to a

acceptable alternatives to a

acceptable alternatives to a professional career so much so that by

professional career so much so that by

professional career so much so that by the end of 2015 only 6% of managerial

the end of 2015 only 6% of managerial

the end of 2015 only 6% of managerial jobs were held by women at the country’s

jobs were held by women at the country’s

jobs were held by women at the country’s top 200 firms one of the lowest rates

top 200 firms one of the lowest rates

top 200 firms one of the lowest rates across the entire EU now let’s turn the

across the entire EU now let’s turn the

across the entire EU now let’s turn the lens back on the United States this

lens back on the United States this

lens back on the United States this slide shows the number of states that

slide shows the number of states that

slide shows the number of states that offer paid leave in the u.s. today

offer paid leave in the u.s. today

offer paid leave in the u.s. today California New Jersey Rhode Island

California New Jersey Rhode Island

California New Jersey Rhode Island soon-to-be New York and the District of

soon-to-be New York and the District of

soon-to-be New York and the District of Columbia these states have leveraged

Columbia these states have leveraged

Columbia these states have leveraged technology to support their policies but

technology to support their policies but

technology to support their policies but with one major difference that we’re

with one major difference that we’re

with one major difference that we’re seeing compared to these other countries

seeing compared to these other countries

seeing compared to these other countries and that is they are supporting their

and that is they are supporting their

and that is they are supporting their policies only on the form submission

policies only on the form submission

policies only on the form submission process not on the decision-making

process not on the decision-making

process not on the decision-making process so let me pause here for a

process so let me pause here for a

process so let me pause here for a moment and relate this to some other

moment and relate this to some other

moment and relate this to some other examples that we may be more familiar

examples that we may be more familiar

examples that we may be more familiar with this is the equivalent of filing

with this is the equivalent of filing

with this is the equivalent of filing your taxes online without the aid of a

your taxes online without the aid of a

your taxes online without the aid of a software like TurboTax or applying for a

software like TurboTax or applying for a

software like TurboTax or applying for a home mortgage loan without using an

home mortgage loan without using an

home mortgage loan without using an online calculator to see if you can

online calculator to see if you can

online calculator to see if you can afford it or withdrawing from your 401k

afford it or withdrawing from your 401k

afford it or withdrawing from your 401k retirement count and not taking

retirement count and not taking

retirement count and not taking advantage of the retirement planning

advantage of the retirement planning

advantage of the retirement planning tools that are available what I’m trying

tools that are available what I’m trying

tools that are available what I’m trying to say is that when we typically roll

to say is that when we typically roll

to say is that when we typically roll out complex policies like tax and

out complex policies like tax and

out complex policies like tax and retirement we usually combine them with

retirement we usually combine them with

retirement we usually combine them with technology decision support tools

technology decision support tools

technology decision support tools however when we typically talk paid

however when we typically talk paid

however when we typically talk paid family leave policy which is equally as

family leave policy which is equally as

family leave policy which is equally as complex as taxes and retirement we tend

complex as taxes and retirement we tend

complex as taxes and retirement we tend to overlook the technology solutions let

to overlook the technology solutions let

to overlook the technology solutions let me shed some light on the level of

me shed some light on the level of

me shed some light on the level of comply

comply

comply a working family must face when

a working family must face when

a working family must face when navigating parental leave in the

navigating parental leave in the

navigating parental leave in the workplace this slide shows the

workplace this slide shows the

workplace this slide shows the categories of choices and decisions a

categories of choices and decisions a

categories of choices and decisions a working family must consider when taking

working family must consider when taking

working family must consider when taking leave the number of questions varies

leave the number of questions varies

leave the number of questions varies from 30 to 60 depending on location and

from 30 to 60 depending on location and

from 30 to 60 depending on location and type of leave and this is more than just

type of leave and this is more than just

type of leave and this is more than just having a baby like we’ve been doing for

having a baby like we’ve been doing for

having a baby like we’ve been doing for millennial this is real implications to

millennial this is real implications to

millennial this is real implications to personal finances the company in the

personal finances the company in the

personal finances the company in the workplace considerations for the baby

workplace considerations for the baby

workplace considerations for the baby Korda nari coordinating healthcare

Korda nari coordinating healthcare

Korda nari coordinating healthcare benefits numerous hours are spent at

benefits numerous hours are spent at

benefits numerous hours are spent at work and at home researching all of

work and at home researching all of

work and at home researching all of these individual choices essentially

these individual choices essentially

these individual choices essentially recreating the wheel with every leave

recreating the wheel with every leave

recreating the wheel with every leave this is why I founded leave logic

this is why I founded leave logic

this is why I founded leave logic because we believe technology has a huge

because we believe technology has a huge

because we believe technology has a huge role to play and making family leave

role to play and making family leave

role to play and making family leave normal in the workplace these questions

normal in the workplace these questions

normal in the workplace these questions aren’t just hard to answer like how much

aren’t just hard to answer like how much

aren’t just hard to answer like how much time do I get off

time do I get off

time do I get off how much is paid can I use a short term

how much is paid can I use a short term

how much is paid can I use a short term disability policy how do I get a breast

disability policy how do I get a breast

disability policy how do I get a breast pump reimbursed how do I get access to a

pump reimbursed how do I get access to a

pump reimbursed how do I get access to a lactation room what are the benefits

lactation room what are the benefits

lactation room what are the benefits available to me at my company what are

available to me at my company what are

available to me at my company what are my rights they’re not just hard to

my rights they’re not just hard to

my rights they’re not just hard to answer here but around the world and we

answer here but around the world and we

answer here but around the world and we believe that because there hasn’t been a

believe that because there hasn’t been a

believe that because there hasn’t been a technology solution an easy button to

technology solution an easy button to

technology solution an easy button to push the unintentional message is loud

push the unintentional message is loud

push the unintentional message is loud and clear to workers who are taking

and clear to workers who are taking

and clear to workers who are taking leave you are not normal this is an

leave you are not normal this is an

leave you are not normal this is an exception of burden a nuisance

technology can also help erase the

technology can also help erase the workplace taboo for fathers as well

workplace taboo for fathers as well

workplace taboo for fathers as well a recent study titled feminizing the

a recent study titled feminizing the

a recent study titled feminizing the male leave requestor performed at

male leave requestor performed at

male leave requestor performed at rutgers university found that men who

rutgers university found that men who

rutgers university found that men who requested family leave were more likely

requested family leave were more likely

requested family leave were more likely to be perceived as weak and uncertain

to be perceived as weak and uncertain

to be perceived as weak and uncertain and less likely to be put forth for

and less likely to be put forth for

and less likely to be put forth for promotion and pay raises in addition we

promotion and pay raises in addition we

promotion and pay raises in addition we only see a little more than a third of

only see a little more than a third of

only see a little more than a third of dads taking their full paid family leave

dads taking their full paid family leave

dads taking their full paid family leave benefit a company such as yahoo and ey

benefit a company such as yahoo and ey

benefit a company such as yahoo and ey this is why I’m standing here on the

this is why I’m standing here on the

this is why I’m standing here on the stage today because I have never been

stage today because I have never been

stage today because I have never been more excited about the opportunity to

more excited about the opportunity to

more excited about the opportunity to shine technologies little light on this

shine technologies little light on this

shine technologies little light on this very frequent occurrence in a woman

very frequent occurrence in a woman

very frequent occurrence in a woman child and family’s life and in the very

child and family’s life and in the very

child and family’s life and in the very near future make family leave just as

near future make family leave just as

near future make family leave just as normal and certain as your taxes thank

normal and certain as your taxes thank

normal and certain as your taxes thank you

you

you [Applause]

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