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Why promoting small holder agriculture is good for developing countries. | Ewan Lamont | TEDxYangon


have you ever tried growing tomatoes

have you ever tried growing tomatoes you know actually planting a seed and

you know actually planting a seed and

you know actually planting a seed and seeing it grow and then keeping it alive

seeing it grow and then keeping it alive

seeing it grow and then keeping it alive for more than a month well well I did I

for more than a month well well I did I

for more than a month well well I did I tried and um this was the result but not

tried and um this was the result but not

tried and um this was the result but not all that impressive Rhett I mean if

all that impressive Rhett I mean if

all that impressive Rhett I mean if people like me are responsible for

people like me are responsible for

people like me are responsible for feeding the world we’re in a lot of

feeding the world we’re in a lot of

feeding the world we’re in a lot of trouble but then there’s my neighbor who

trouble but then there’s my neighbor who

trouble but then there’s my neighbor who did this you know it can be done

did this you know it can be done

did this you know it can be done same seed same conditions vastly

same seed same conditions vastly

same seed same conditions vastly different results here I mean we could

different results here I mean we could

different results here I mean we could have expected that I guess because he’s

have expected that I guess because he’s

have expected that I guess because he’s an agronomist and I’m just a marketing

an agronomist and I’m just a marketing

an agronomist and I’m just a marketing guy right but today I want to tell you a

guy right but today I want to tell you a

guy right but today I want to tell you a story of how gardening can change the

story of how gardening can change the

story of how gardening can change the world not just grow a few extra

world not just grow a few extra

world not just grow a few extra vegetables for the kitchen but how it

vegetables for the kitchen but how it

vegetables for the kitchen but how it becomes this powerful engine of economic

becomes this powerful engine of economic

becomes this powerful engine of economic transformation for a country like meme’

transformation for a country like meme’

transformation for a country like meme’ and how it can unleash economic success

and how it can unleash economic success

and how it can unleash economic success on a scale that would put Silicon Valley

on a scale that would put Silicon Valley

on a scale that would put Silicon Valley to shame when I talk about gardening of

to shame when I talk about gardening of

to shame when I talk about gardening of course I do mean agriculture and

course I do mean agriculture and

course I do mean agriculture and typically what you see is that

typically what you see is that

typically what you see is that agriculture plays a role of outsized

agriculture plays a role of outsized

agriculture plays a role of outsized importance for many countries that are

importance for many countries that are

importance for many countries that are at an early stage of economic

at an early stage of economic

at an early stage of economic development and in this memoirs no

development and in this memoirs no

development and in this memoirs no different right I mean you have a fast

different right I mean you have a fast

different right I mean you have a fast growing population most of whom are in

growing population most of whom are in

growing population most of whom are in the countryside and you can just see the

the countryside and you can just see the

the countryside and you can just see the importance of the agricultural sector to

importance of the agricultural sector to

importance of the agricultural sector to the overall country’s economy the

the overall country’s economy the

the overall country’s economy the interesting thing about Myanmar though

interesting thing about Myanmar though

interesting thing about Myanmar though is that the vast potential that we have

is that the vast potential that we have

is that the vast potential that we have that agriculture can continue to be this

that agriculture can continue to be this

that agriculture can continue to be this driver of the economy going forwards and

driver of the economy going forwards and

driver of the economy going forwards and we have this large land mass we have

we have this large land mass we have

we have this large land mass we have fantastically fertile soil and an

fantastically fertile soil and an

fantastically fertile soil and an amazing climate which means you can

amazing climate which means you can

amazing climate which means you can cultivate any number of crops all year

cultivate any number of crops all year

cultivate any number of crops all year round but it’s funny right because

round but it’s funny right because

round but it’s funny right because there’s this perception

there’s this perception

there’s this perception that if your country’s economy is based

that if your country’s economy is based

that if your country’s economy is based on farming well you’re going to be a

on farming well you’re going to be a

on farming well you’re going to be a poor country or this general belief that

poor country or this general belief that

poor country or this general belief that agriculture in a pinning your hopes on

agriculture in a pinning your hopes on

agriculture in a pinning your hopes on agriculture to develop the economy it’s

agriculture to develop the economy it’s

agriculture to develop the economy it’s not a smart thing to do or it’s because

not a smart thing to do or it’s because

not a smart thing to do or it’s because of this that Myanmar is a poor country I

of this that Myanmar is a poor country I

of this that Myanmar is a poor country I say that is nonsense that’s just not

say that is nonsense that’s just not

say that is nonsense that’s just not right and what we learn from examining

right and what we learn from examining

right and what we learn from examining the development of economies throughout

the development of economies throughout

the development of economies throughout the 20th century is this you can’t

the 20th century is this you can’t

the 20th century is this you can’t become a rich country until you’ve got

become a rich country until you’ve got

become a rich country until you’ve got agriculture right now it’s funny because

agriculture right now it’s funny because

agriculture right now it’s funny because all the time we kind of ignore

all the time we kind of ignore

all the time we kind of ignore agriculture in many countries it’s this

agriculture in many countries it’s this

agriculture in many countries it’s this implicit urban bias threat the presumed

implicit urban bias threat the presumed

implicit urban bias threat the presumed superiority of the city over the

superiority of the city over the

superiority of the city over the countryside of the urban over the rural

countryside of the urban over the rural

countryside of the urban over the rural and governments I mean not just here but

and governments I mean not just here but

and governments I mean not just here but governments all around the world they

governments all around the world they

governments all around the world they make policies that make perfect sense

make policies that make perfect sense

make policies that make perfect sense if you’re a city dweller but no sense at

if you’re a city dweller but no sense at

if you’re a city dweller but no sense at all if you’re a farmer in the

all if you’re a farmer in the

all if you’re a farmer in the countryside which is where everybody is

so if we understand just the fundamental

so if we understand just the fundamental importance of agriculture for our

importance of agriculture for our

importance of agriculture for our success in the success of many other

success in the success of many other

success in the success of many other countries I mean we can’t ignore it we

countries I mean we can’t ignore it we

countries I mean we can’t ignore it we can’t afford to ignore it we need to be

can’t afford to ignore it we need to be

can’t afford to ignore it we need to be taking pride in our agriculture we need

taking pride in our agriculture we need

taking pride in our agriculture we need to be proud of our farms and of our

to be proud of our farms and of our

to be proud of our farms and of our farming of the wealth of the beauty of

farming of the wealth of the beauty of

farming of the wealth of the beauty of these fantastic natural conditions it’s

these fantastic natural conditions it’s

these fantastic natural conditions it’s funny because all too often the reality

funny because all too often the reality

funny because all too often the reality of agriculture just doesn’t live up to

of agriculture just doesn’t live up to

of agriculture just doesn’t live up to the potential I mean here we are in

the potential I mean here we are in

the potential I mean here we are in Southeast Asia it’s the land of the

Southeast Asia it’s the land of the

Southeast Asia it’s the land of the smallholder farmer right so that means

smallholder farmer right so that means

smallholder farmer right so that means you have millions of small small plots

you have millions of small small plots

you have millions of small small plots of land which need to feed a family and

of land which need to feed a family and

of land which need to feed a family and also need to provide them as some kind

also need to provide them as some kind

also need to provide them as some kind of an income it’s pretty tough let me

of an income it’s pretty tough let me

of an income it’s pretty tough let me give you an example this is Mars in now

give you an example this is Mars in now

give you an example this is Mars in now Mars in cultivates the 3 acre plot of

Mars in cultivates the 3 acre plot of

Mars in cultivates the 3 acre plot of land just outside maguey in central

land just outside maguey in central

land just outside maguey in central Myanmar a she grows peanuts and maybe

Myanmar a she grows peanuts and maybe

Myanmar a she grows peanuts and maybe some sesame if she thinks that the rains

some sesame if she thinks that the rains

some sesame if she thinks that the rains are going to

are going to

are going to kind to her this year her farm isn’t

kind to her this year her farm isn’t

kind to her this year her farm isn’t irrigated which means that half the year

irrigated which means that half the year

irrigated which means that half the year it lies empty because there’s no water

it lies empty because there’s no water

it lies empty because there’s no water in her village pretty much everyone’s a

in her village pretty much everyone’s a

in her village pretty much everyone’s a farmer pretty much everyone’s poor now

farmer pretty much everyone’s poor now

farmer pretty much everyone’s poor now life here is precarious Mazen knows that

life here is precarious Mazen knows that

life here is precarious Mazen knows that if she doesn’t get the yield from the

if she doesn’t get the yield from the

if she doesn’t get the yield from the crop that she needs or the crop price

crop that she needs or the crop price

crop that she needs or the crop price dips she’s not going to have enough

dips she’s not going to have enough

dips she’s not going to have enough money to pay back the money lender who

money to pay back the money lender who

money to pay back the money lender who lent her money to buy the seed and the

lent her money to buy the seed and the

lent her money to buy the seed and the fertilizer and to send her child to

fertilizer and to send her child to

fertilizer and to send her child to school now if that happens then she may

school now if that happens then she may

school now if that happens then she may well lose the farm now it’s the same

well lose the farm now it’s the same

well lose the farm now it’s the same story again and again throughout the

story again and again throughout the

story again and again throughout the country you know these are the two

country you know these are the two

country you know these are the two biggest crops here in Myanmar we’ve

biggest crops here in Myanmar we’ve

biggest crops here in Myanmar we’ve we’ve got rice and we’ve got corn and if

we’ve got rice and we’ve got corn and if

we’ve got rice and we’ve got corn and if you’re comparing the average performance

you’re comparing the average performance

you’re comparing the average performance right the average yield from these farms

right the average yield from these farms

right the average yield from these farms niyama here in red is consistently

niyama here in red is consistently

niyama here in red is consistently underperforming our neighbors or the

underperforming our neighbors or the

underperforming our neighbors or the best in class I mean if you go back to

best in class I mean if you go back to

best in class I mean if you go back to what I said before about you know taking

what I said before about you know taking

what I said before about you know taking pride in agriculture we see these

pride in agriculture we see these

pride in agriculture we see these numbers but we think we’ve got so much

numbers but we think we’ve got so much

numbers but we think we’ve got so much work to do here and you say okay so if I

work to do here and you say okay so if I

work to do here and you say okay so if I asked you to say

asked you to say

asked you to say what does agriculture look like to you

what does agriculture look like to you

what does agriculture look like to you if it makes you proud right what is

if it makes you proud right what is

if it makes you proud right what is agriculture that we can be proud of what

agriculture that we can be proud of what

agriculture that we can be proud of what does it look like you might think of

does it look like you might think of

does it look like you might think of something like this right this is pivot

something like this right this is pivot

something like this right this is pivot irrigation in the Midwest of the US or

irrigation in the Midwest of the US or

irrigation in the Midwest of the US or maybe something like this this is a

maybe something like this this is a

maybe something like this this is a 20,000 acre mega farm in Argentina you

20,000 acre mega farm in Argentina you

20,000 acre mega farm in Argentina you know all these things big machines big

know all these things big machines big

know all these things big machines big scale remember the economists always

scale remember the economists always

scale remember the economists always tell us the importance of scale and it’s

tell us the importance of scale and it’s

tell us the importance of scale and it’s about efficiency right a higher scale

about efficiency right a higher scale

about efficiency right a higher scale you can be more efficient you can make

you can be more efficient you can make

you can be more efficient you can make you can make more money but these sorts

you can make more money but these sorts

you can make more money but these sorts of things have actually sparked

of things have actually sparked

of things have actually sparked revolutions in the past right and just

revolutions in the past right and just

revolutions in the past right and just think about the the Soviet Union or

think about the the Soviet Union or

think about the the Soviet Union or China I mean they had this vision of

China I mean they had this vision of

China I mean they had this vision of Agriculture and the Marxists and

Agriculture and the Marxists and

Agriculture and the Marxists and Chairman Mao they hated these small

Chairman Mao they hated these small

Chairman Mao they hated these small small

small

small Farms that you still see today

Farms that you still see today

Farms that you still see today throughout much of Asia they wanted to

throughout much of Asia they wanted to

throughout much of Asia they wanted to knock all the walls down pool all the

knock all the walls down pool all the

knock all the walls down pool all the resources and set everyone to work in

resources and set everyone to work in

resources and set everyone to work in these huge state farms you know this was

these huge state farms you know this was

these huge state farms you know this was gonna be the model of progressive

gonna be the model of progressive

gonna be the model of progressive agriculture that we can all be proud of

agriculture that we can all be proud of

agriculture that we can all be proud of well we’ve moved on a little from from

well we’ve moved on a little from from

well we’ve moved on a little from from these state farms but the thinking is

these state farms but the thinking is

these state farms but the thinking is largely the same the received wisdom we

largely the same the received wisdom we

largely the same the received wisdom we have for agriculture is scale you know

have for agriculture is scale you know

have for agriculture is scale you know big farms as few people as possible so

big farms as few people as possible so

big farms as few people as possible so this chap here in Iowa he farms a 500

this chap here in Iowa he farms a 500

this chap here in Iowa he farms a 500 acre farm just him and his father and

acre farm just him and his father and

acre farm just him and his father and well some rather large machinery behind

well some rather large machinery behind

well some rather large machinery behind him as well so is this the model of

him as well so is this the model of

him as well so is this the model of Agriculture that we are waiting for here

Agriculture that we are waiting for here

Agriculture that we are waiting for here in Myanmar is this what we want to

in Myanmar is this what we want to

in Myanmar is this what we want to recreate is this the panacea of

recreate is this the panacea of

recreate is this the panacea of productivity and efficiency that we need

productivity and efficiency that we need

productivity and efficiency that we need well actually no and all the data we

well actually no and all the data we

well actually no and all the data we have says exactly the opposite if you’re

have says exactly the opposite if you’re

have says exactly the opposite if you’re talking about growing food producing

talking about growing food producing

talking about growing food producing food from one patch of land how Maas in

food from one patch of land how Maas in

food from one patch of land how Maas in farms is vastly more productive than our

farms is vastly more productive than our

farms is vastly more productive than our friend from Iowa it doesn’t make sense

friend from Iowa it doesn’t make sense

friend from Iowa it doesn’t make sense right if you’ve got a farm like this I

right if you’ve got a farm like this I

right if you’ve got a farm like this I mean this is not the most productive

mean this is not the most productive

mean this is not the most productive farm you can get actually the most

farm you can get actually the most

farm you can get actually the most productive farm looks like this I mean

productive farm looks like this I mean

productive farm looks like this I mean what’s what’s going on well the thinking

what’s what’s going on well the thinking

what’s what’s going on well the thinking is this the more you can pay attention

is this the more you can pay attention

is this the more you can pay attention to each of the individual plants the

to each of the individual plants the

to each of the individual plants the more it will reward you let’s go back to

more it will reward you let’s go back to

more it will reward you let’s go back to gardening your field is your garden your

gardening your field is your garden your

gardening your field is your garden your crops will they’re individual plants

crops will they’re individual plants

crops will they’re individual plants that need to be nourished now when you

that need to be nourished now when you

that need to be nourished now when you have a five acre patch of land you can

have a five acre patch of land you can

have a five acre patch of land you can actually go up into your field and you

actually go up into your field and you

actually go up into your field and you can see oh yeah we need a bit more water

can see oh yeah we need a bit more water

can see oh yeah we need a bit more water here because the plants are a bit bigger

here because the plants are a bit bigger

here because the plants are a bit bigger over here well yeah I need a little bit

over here well yeah I need a little bit

over here well yeah I need a little bit more nutrition over here well there’s a

more nutrition over here well there’s a

more nutrition over here well there’s a bit of flooding and maybe the soil

bit of flooding and maybe the soil

bit of flooding and maybe the soil temperature needs some change in all

temperature needs some change in all

temperature needs some change in all these tiny tiny details

these tiny tiny details

these tiny tiny details that you can change and when you fix it

that you can change and when you fix it

that you can change and when you fix it you can access these phenomenal yield

you can access these phenomenal yield

you can access these phenomenal yield increases you can’t do that if you’ve

increases you can’t do that if you’ve

increases you can’t do that if you’ve got a twenty thousand acre mega farm

got a twenty thousand acre mega farm

got a twenty thousand acre mega farm right so what’s interesting is when you

right so what’s interesting is when you

right so what’s interesting is when you can compare smallholder agriculture with

can compare smallholder agriculture with

can compare smallholder agriculture with a large scale agriculture you know

a large scale agriculture you know

a large scale agriculture you know side-by-side and what we notice well

side-by-side and what we notice well

side-by-side and what we notice well I’ll show you some data in just a moment

I’ll show you some data in just a moment

I’ll show you some data in just a moment but go back to those state farms

but go back to those state farms

but go back to those state farms alongside the big collective you

alongside the big collective you

alongside the big collective you actually had these micro plots of land

actually had these micro plots of land

actually had these micro plots of land which served as a vegetable garden for

which served as a vegetable garden for

which served as a vegetable garden for the guys who were working on the farm

the guys who were working on the farm

the guys who were working on the farm that they produce food for them to eat

that they produce food for them to eat

that they produce food for them to eat so they could get through the day of

so they could get through the day of

so they could get through the day of hacking away at the rice what you see is

hacking away at the rice what you see is

hacking away at the rice what you see is the productivity between these micro

the productivity between these micro

the productivity between these micro plots and the rest of the farm I mean

plots and the rest of the farm I mean

plots and the rest of the farm I mean it’s it’s staggering so in China five

it’s it’s staggering so in China five

it’s it’s staggering so in China five percent of the state farm was actually

percent of the state farm was actually

percent of the state farm was actually these micro plots and it produced twenty

these micro plots and it produced twenty

these micro plots and it produced twenty percent of the food in the Soviet Union

percent of the food in the Soviet Union

percent of the food in the Soviet Union same thing two percent of the land were

same thing two percent of the land were

same thing two percent of the land were these micro plots and it produces 30

these micro plots and it produces 30

these micro plots and it produces 30 percent

percent

percent I mean we’ve got data from many other

I mean we’ve got data from many other

I mean we’ve got data from many other places from India from Brazil from from

places from India from Brazil from from

places from India from Brazil from from other parts of Europe it all says the

other parts of Europe it all says the

other parts of Europe it all says the same thing there’s no correlation

same thing there’s no correlation

same thing there’s no correlation between the size of a farm and its

between the size of a farm and its

between the size of a farm and its productivity so I mean it’s the same

productivity so I mean it’s the same

productivity so I mean it’s the same thing right how can you pay the most

thing right how can you pay the most

thing right how can you pay the most attention to your plants when they look

attention to your plants when they look

attention to your plants when they look like this then if they’re in a two acre

like this then if they’re in a two acre

like this then if they’re in a two acre plot of land just outside your village

think of a plantation this here is a

think of a plantation this here is a professional plantation in Malaysia and

professional plantation in Malaysia and

professional plantation in Malaysia and they’re growing oil palm right what you

they’re growing oil palm right what you

they’re growing oil palm right what you see is that around the edge of the

see is that around the edge of the

see is that around the edge of the plantation you you tend to get small

plantation you you tend to get small

plantation you you tend to get small holders who are growing the same crop

holders who are growing the same crop

holders who are growing the same crop and consistently these small holders

and consistently these small holders

and consistently these small holders will have better and more productive

will have better and more productive

will have better and more productive farms than the plantation okay that’s a

farms than the plantation okay that’s a

farms than the plantation okay that’s a pretty difficult message to deliver to

pretty difficult message to deliver to

pretty difficult message to deliver to this guy who’s running a multinational

this guy who’s running a multinational

this guy who’s running a multinational corporation and say look I’m sorry but

corporation and say look I’m sorry but

corporation and say look I’m sorry but you’re running a less productive farm

you’re running a less productive farm

you’re running a less productive farm than this guy in a cap but it’s worth me

than this guy in a cap but it’s worth me

than this guy in a cap but it’s worth me just clarifying that

just clarifying that

just clarifying that if we’re talking about productivity and

if we’re talking about productivity and

if we’re talking about productivity and efficiency it’s really important to

efficiency it’s really important to

efficiency it’s really important to understand that the definition of

understand that the definition of

understand that the definition of efficiency depends entirely on what your

efficiency depends entirely on what your

efficiency depends entirely on what your objective is what you’re trying to do

objective is what you’re trying to do

objective is what you’re trying to do these small holders can produce the most

these small holders can produce the most

these small holders can produce the most amount of food for a patch of land that

amount of food for a patch of land that

amount of food for a patch of land that that’s clear but what if your objective

that’s clear but what if your objective

that’s clear but what if your objective is return on investment so you know for

is return on investment so you know for

is return on investment so you know for the money and the resources you put in

the money and the resources you put in

the money and the resources you put in what’s the money that you get back well

what’s the money that you get back well

what’s the money that you get back well you get a vastly different picture and

you get a vastly different picture and

you get a vastly different picture and if you get it right

if you get it right

if you get it right large-scale agriculture can be

large-scale agriculture can be

large-scale agriculture can be incredibly attractive but it’s not

incredibly attractive but it’s not

incredibly attractive but it’s not enough to say well you know which one

enough to say well you know which one

enough to say well you know which one makes me the most money and let’s go and

makes me the most money and let’s go and

makes me the most money and let’s go and do that you’re missing the point if

do that you’re missing the point if

do that you’re missing the point if you’re running a country your objectives

you’re running a country your objectives

you’re running a country your objectives cannot be the same as if you’re running

cannot be the same as if you’re running

cannot be the same as if you’re running a business it’s not about the money it’s

a business it’s not about the money it’s

a business it’s not about the money it’s about people and the work that they do

about people and the work that they do

about people and the work that they do large-scale agriculture tries to

large-scale agriculture tries to

large-scale agriculture tries to minimize labor tries to minimize people

minimize labor tries to minimize people

minimize labor tries to minimize people just because people tend to be expensive

just because people tend to be expensive

just because people tend to be expensive and in many economies there’s something

and in many economies there’s something

and in many economies there’s something more productive for these people to be

more productive for these people to be

more productive for these people to be doing now for returns from the farm if

doing now for returns from the farm if

doing now for returns from the farm if you’re if it’s a small holder system

you’re if it’s a small holder system

you’re if it’s a small holder system that spread liberally across millions of

that spread liberally across millions of

that spread liberally across millions of farming families now when you have

farming families now when you have

farming families now when you have large-scale agriculture returns the

large-scale agriculture returns the

large-scale agriculture returns the money from the farm goes into the

money from the farm goes into the

money from the farm goes into the pockets of just a few people great news

pockets of just a few people great news

pockets of just a few people great news if you own that farm not so great news

if you own that farm not so great news

if you own that farm not so great news if you’re a farmer working on that farm

if you’re a farmer working on that farm

if you’re a farmer working on that farm so if you’re running a developing

so if you’re running a developing

so if you’re running a developing country your objective can’t possibly be

country your objective can’t possibly be

country your objective can’t possibly be to use as few people as possible I mean

to use as few people as possible I mean

to use as few people as possible I mean you’ve got a whole countryside full of

you’ve got a whole countryside full of

you’ve got a whole countryside full of them and honestly what else are they

them and honestly what else are they

them and honestly what else are they going to do where are we going to find

going to do where are we going to find

going to do where are we going to find jobs for them to do how are we going to

jobs for them to do how are we going to

jobs for them to do how are we going to create these jobs in the cities and can

create these jobs in the cities and can

create these jobs in the cities and can we really accommodate another few

we really accommodate another few

we really accommodate another few million people coming to these cities I

million people coming to these cities I

million people coming to these cities I mean it already feels as if we’re

mean it already feels as if we’re

mean it already feels as if we’re reaching some kind of an infrastructural

reaching some kind of an infrastructural

reaching some kind of an infrastructural crisis in in in some cities and it’s

crisis in in in some cities and it’s

crisis in in in some cities and it’s just not right

just not right

just not right that we should be having encouraging a

that we should be having encouraging a

that we should be having encouraging a few more million people to be coming to

few more million people to be coming to

few more million people to be coming to the city to try and find a job

the city to try and find a job

the city to try and find a job think about those whole communities who

think about those whole communities who

think about those whole communities who after decades of conflict they finally

after decades of conflict they finally

after decades of conflict they finally laid down their arms I don’t want to

laid down their arms I don’t want to

laid down their arms I don’t want to live a marginal existence in the cities

live a marginal existence in the cities

live a marginal existence in the cities they want to go back to their village

they want to go back to their village

they want to go back to their village they want to go home so you encourage

they want to go home so you encourage

they want to go home so you encourage people to stay in the countryside and be

people to stay in the countryside and be

people to stay in the countryside and be as productive as they can in doing what

as productive as they can in doing what

as productive as they can in doing what they’re doing which is agriculture

they’re doing which is agriculture

they’re doing which is agriculture now I said at the beginning I said you

now I said at the beginning I said you

now I said at the beginning I said you know no country can become a rich

know no country can become a rich

know no country can become a rich country until it’s got agriculture right

country until it’s got agriculture right

country until it’s got agriculture right now I want to take that just a step

now I want to take that just a step

now I want to take that just a step further and say that actually how you do

further and say that actually how you do

further and say that actually how you do agriculture is just as important

agriculture is just as important

agriculture is just as important so it’s either smallholder based or or

so it’s either smallholder based or or

so it’s either smallholder based or or or it’s not what’s interesting is that

or it’s not what’s interesting is that

or it’s not what’s interesting is that here in East Asia over the last 50 70

here in East Asia over the last 50 70

here in East Asia over the last 50 70 years you’ve got broadly two groupings

years you’ve got broadly two groupings

years you’ve got broadly two groupings of countries now Northeast Asia you’ve

of countries now Northeast Asia you’ve

of countries now Northeast Asia you’ve got some of the richest countries in the

got some of the richest countries in the

got some of the richest countries in the world right now they implemented land

world right now they implemented land

world right now they implemented land redistribution and had small holder

redistribution and had small holder

redistribution and had small holder friendly policies for agriculture after

friendly policies for agriculture after

friendly policies for agriculture after the Second World War

the Second World War

the Second World War now in the Southeast Asia typically they

now in the Southeast Asia typically they

now in the Southeast Asia typically they went for larger scale plantation based

went for larger scale plantation based

went for larger scale plantation based agriculture mostly as a hangover from

agriculture mostly as a hangover from

agriculture mostly as a hangover from the colonial experience now it’s hard to

the colonial experience now it’s hard to

the colonial experience now it’s hard to escape the conclusion that Southeast

escape the conclusion that Southeast

escape the conclusion that Southeast Asia is lagging behind Northeast Asia in

Asia is lagging behind Northeast Asia in

Asia is lagging behind Northeast Asia in this respect at this point

this respect at this point

this respect at this point it’s I have to admit that you know it’s

it’s I have to admit that you know it’s

it’s I have to admit that you know it’s not enough for me to stand here and say

not enough for me to stand here and say

not enough for me to stand here and say to all the farmers you can be wildly

to all the farmers you can be wildly

to all the farmers you can be wildly productive if you just put your head

productive if you just put your head

productive if you just put your head down and focus on growing better

down and focus on growing better

down and focus on growing better tomatoes right not better cabbages or

tomatoes right not better cabbages or

tomatoes right not better cabbages or whatever it is you’re growing there’s

whatever it is you’re growing there’s

whatever it is you’re growing there’s some significant infrastructure that you

some significant infrastructure that you

some significant infrastructure that you need in order to make this

need in order to make this

need in order to make this transformation happen now this first

transformation happen now this first

transformation happen now this first question of land

question of land

question of land it’s a thorny one okay and I’m not going

it’s a thorny one okay and I’m not going

it’s a thorny one okay and I’m not going to go into it today but just suffice to

to go into it today but just suffice to

to go into it today but just suffice to say if you have an asset your land

say if you have an asset your land

say if you have an asset your land you’re not going to invest in your asset

you’re not going to invest in your asset

you’re not going to invest in your asset unless you know it’s your asset

unless you know it’s your asset

unless you know it’s your asset training growing a better crop I mean it

training growing a better crop I mean it

training growing a better crop I mean it is people like me growing the food guys

is people like me growing the food guys

is people like me growing the food guys were in a lot of trouble financing how

were in a lot of trouble financing how

were in a lot of trouble financing how do you get the cash to buy the seed and

do you get the cash to buy the seed and

do you get the cash to buy the seed and the fertilizer and what you need to grow

the fertilizer and what you need to grow

the fertilizer and what you need to grow a crop and finally when you’ve grown a

a crop and finally when you’ve grown a

a crop and finally when you’ve grown a great crop how do you know that you can

great crop how do you know that you can

great crop how do you know that you can get it to market or that you can get a

get it to market or that you can get a

get it to market or that you can get a fair price for it so let’s assume that

fair price for it so let’s assume that

fair price for it so let’s assume that our venerable leaders I mean they’re

our venerable leaders I mean they’re

our venerable leaders I mean they’re here today or they’re big fans of Ted

here today or they’re big fans of Ted

here today or they’re big fans of Ted they see the talk and they say huh let’s

they see the talk and they say huh let’s

they see the talk and they say huh let’s do what the British guy said so they do

do what the British guy said so they do

do what the British guy said so they do all of this great

all of this great

all of this great okay well fast-forward a few years

okay well fast-forward a few years

okay well fast-forward a few years actually what you see is that as the

actually what you see is that as the

actually what you see is that as the productivity goes up the number of

productivity goes up the number of

productivity goes up the number of people you need actually goes down so

people you need actually goes down so

people you need actually goes down so people are freed up and now they have a

people are freed up and now they have a

people are freed up and now they have a choice well maybe they want to go to the

choice well maybe they want to go to the

choice well maybe they want to go to the city and find a job you know they can

city and find a job you know they can

city and find a job you know they can come back to the farm at harvest time

come back to the farm at harvest time

come back to the farm at harvest time now they get twin streams of income one

now they get twin streams of income one

now they get twin streams of income one from the farm and one from the city if

from the farm and one from the city if

from the farm and one from the city if they lose their job in the factory well

they lose their job in the factory well

they lose their job in the factory well they can come back to a productive

they can come back to a productive

they can come back to a productive smallholder farm and await the next

smallholder farm and await the next

smallholder farm and await the next opportunity just think of the resilience

opportunity just think of the resilience

opportunity just think of the resilience that that creates for a rural economy or

that that creates for a rural economy or

that that creates for a rural economy or alternatively well they stay where they

alternatively well they stay where they

alternatively well they stay where they are I mean just because you’re in the

are I mean just because you’re in the

are I mean just because you’re in the countryside doesn’t mean you need to

countryside doesn’t mean you need to

countryside doesn’t mean you need to grow stuff doesn’t mean you need to be a

grow stuff doesn’t mean you need to be a

grow stuff doesn’t mean you need to be a farmer there’s many things you can do

farmer there’s many things you can do

farmer there’s many things you can do right from breeding ducks to selling

right from breeding ducks to selling

right from breeding ducks to selling fertilizer to milling rice and using the

fertilizer to milling rice and using the

fertilizer to milling rice and using the profits from a farm to invest in your

profits from a farm to invest in your

profits from a farm to invest in your rural enterprise people this is rural

rural enterprise people this is rural

rural enterprise people this is rural entrepreneurship this is where it starts

entrepreneurship this is where it starts

entrepreneurship this is where it starts let’s be clear farmers are the ultimate

let’s be clear farmers are the ultimate

let’s be clear farmers are the ultimate entrepreneurs I mean they’re not sitting

entrepreneurs I mean they’re not sitting

entrepreneurs I mean they’re not sitting down tapping away on their laptop or

down tapping away on their laptop or

down tapping away on their laptop or wearing their hoody no but effectively

wearing their hoody no but effectively

wearing their hoody no but effectively they’re doing exactly the same thing

they’re doing exactly the same thing

they’re doing exactly the same thing right they’re using their assets their

right they’re using their assets their

right they’re using their assets their land and their labor to run their small

land and their labor to run their small

land and their labor to run their small business now many of us this we see the

business now many of us this we see the

business now many of us this we see the plight of these small holder farmers and

plight of these small holder farmers and

plight of these small holder farmers and you know we feel we want to

you know we feel we want to

you know we feel we want to we want to help them we want to donate

we want to help them we want to donate

we want to help them we want to donate we want to want to do something but let

we want to want to do something but let

we want to want to do something but let me tell you farmers don’t need that they

me tell you farmers don’t need that they

me tell you farmers don’t need that they don’t want it they just want to get on

don’t want it they just want to get on

don’t want it they just want to get on and run their business one final thought

and run their business one final thought

and run their business one final thought in many countries we’ve reached the

in many countries we’ve reached the

in many countries we’ve reached the stage of development where we simply do

stage of development where we simply do

stage of development where we simply do not understand the value of our farmers

not understand the value of our farmers

not understand the value of our farmers right we delegate the most fundamental

right we delegate the most fundamental

right we delegate the most fundamental responsibility of our lives which is to

responsibility of our lives which is to

responsibility of our lives which is to feed our family to a group of people who

feed our family to a group of people who

feed our family to a group of people who live in some of them most difficult

live in some of them most difficult

live in some of them most difficult conditions imaginable we are free to

conditions imaginable we are free to

conditions imaginable we are free to live our lives and chase our goals and

live our lives and chase our goals and

live our lives and chase our goals and our ambitions simply because we don’t

our ambitions simply because we don’t

our ambitions simply because we don’t have to worry about growing food every

have to worry about growing food every

have to worry about growing food every day these farmers they’re not to be

day these farmers they’re not to be

day these farmers they’re not to be pitied they’re not to be ignored they

pitied they’re not to be ignored they

pitied they’re not to be ignored they are to be recognized as a fundamentally

are to be recognized as a fundamentally

are to be recognized as a fundamentally important part of our society the

important part of our society the

important part of our society the foundation on which all of our success

foundation on which all of our success

foundation on which all of our success is based let’s face it without farmers

is based let’s face it without farmers

is based let’s face it without farmers we would all be naked hungry and sober

we would all be naked hungry and sober

we would all be naked hungry and sober and I say that’s a sad place to be thank

and I say that’s a sad place to be thank

and I say that’s a sad place to be thank you very much

you very much

you very much [Applause]

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