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Love in the time of dictatorship | Vicky Bowman | TEDxYangon


some of you know I speak a bit of

some of you know I speak a bit of Burmese and I regularly find myself in a

Burmese and I regularly find myself in a

Burmese and I regularly find myself in a Yangon taxi talking to the driver

Yangon taxi talking to the driver

Yangon taxi talking to the driver I’m an English girl I married a Burmese

I’m an English girl I married a Burmese

I’m an English girl I married a Burmese man and they got aa car later and I said

man and they got aa car later and I said

man and they got aa car later and I said please put your hands back on the

please put your hands back on the

please put your hands back on the steering wheel oh he’s like a light dad

steering wheel oh he’s like a light dad

steering wheel oh he’s like a light dad and Abu ZAR you are later can take on

and Abu ZAR you are later can take on

and Abu ZAR you are later can take on air so what are we talking about there a

air so what are we talking about there a

air so what are we talking about there a little bit of Burmese napoo your

little bit of Burmese napoo your

little bit of Burmese napoo your forehead SAR writing you are is a

forehead SAR writing you are is a

forehead SAR writing you are is a village and let it is to go around so

village and let it is to go around so

village and let it is to go around so what they’re saying to me is you started

what they’re saying to me is you started

what they’re saying to me is you started off in one village you went all around

off in one village you went all around

off in one village you went all around the houses and eventually you arrived in

the houses and eventually you arrived in

the houses and eventually you arrived in Yangon and met the man of your destiny

Yangon and met the man of your destiny

Yangon and met the man of your destiny the man of your dreams lastly yeah I

the man of your dreams lastly yeah I

the man of your dreams lastly yeah I guess so he’s sitting somewhere down

guess so he’s sitting somewhere down

guess so he’s sitting somewhere down there so which village did I start off

there so which village did I start off

there so which village did I start off in so I was born actually in the US but

in so I was born actually in the US but

in so I was born actually in the US but I grew up in Oxford in a university town

I grew up in Oxford in a university town

I grew up in Oxford in a university town my my parents were academics and I went

my my parents were academics and I went

my my parents were academics and I went from Oxford over to Cambridge studied

from Oxford over to Cambridge studied

from Oxford over to Cambridge studied pathology and then to University of

pathology and then to University of

pathology and then to University of Chicago and it was after that that I

Chicago and it was after that that I

Chicago and it was after that that I joined the Foreign Office I became a

joined the Foreign Office I became a

joined the Foreign Office I became a diplomat I arrived in Rangoon on my

diplomat I arrived in Rangoon on my

diplomat I arrived in Rangoon on my first posting 1990 and I’ll come back to

first posting 1990 and I’ll come back to

first posting 1990 and I’ll come back to how I got there but in the meantime my

how I got there but in the meantime my

how I got there but in the meantime my destiny my nipples are was born in a

destiny my nipples are was born in a

destiny my nipples are was born in a small village called medleague on in the

small village called medleague on in the

small village called medleague on in the north of the Delta Irrawaddy region and

north of the Delta Irrawaddy region and

north of the Delta Irrawaddy region and he had a normal boy’s life already

he had a normal boy’s life already

he had a normal boy’s life already showing artistic tendencies and as a

showing artistic tendencies and as a

showing artistic tendencies and as a result they sent him to Rangoon study

result they sent him to Rangoon study

result they sent him to Rangoon study law because that’s the way it works here

law because that’s the way it works here

law because that’s the way it works here and he was in Rangoon University in 1988

and he was in Rangoon University in 1988

and he was in Rangoon University in 1988 and being the way he is he got involved

and being the way he is he got involved

and being the way he is he got involved and being the way he is he got thrown

and being the way he is he got thrown

and being the way he is he got thrown out and so he was very much part of

out and so he was very much part of

out and so he was very much part of those student demonstrations in 88 which

those student demonstrations in 88 which

those student demonstrations in 88 which then when the military took over took

then when the military took over took

then when the military took over took him on a very long journey first to the

him on a very long journey first to the

him on a very long journey first to the Indian border to mana poor and then to

Indian border to mana poor and then to

Indian border to mana poor and then to the Chinese border and then back and

the Chinese border and then back and

the Chinese border and then back and then through three jails and eventually

then through three jails and eventually

then through three jails and eventually he ended up

he ended up

he ended up Kim yang-gon where he met and married

Kim yang-gon where he met and married

Kim yang-gon where he met and married the British ambassador which obviously

the British ambassador which obviously

the British ambassador which obviously was where you would expect him to end up

was where you would expect him to end up

was where you would expect him to end up and that was me so what started me on

and that was me so what started me on

and that was me so what started me on that journey to Rangoon was a lighthouse

that journey to Rangoon was a lighthouse

that journey to Rangoon was a lighthouse it was actually two lighthouses at

it was actually two lighthouses at

it was actually two lighthouses at opposite ends of the earth one is

opposite ends of the earth one is

opposite ends of the earth one is lighthouse off the coast of Scotland hi

lighthouse off the coast of Scotland hi

lighthouse off the coast of Scotland hi recalled the scare of all it was built

recalled the scare of all it was built

recalled the scare of all it was built in about 1844 and then about 20 years

in about 1844 and then about 20 years

in about 1844 and then about 20 years later in the colonial times they used

later in the colonial times they used

later in the colonial times they used the exact same model to build a

the exact same model to build a

the exact same model to build a lighthouse off the coast of Burma now

lighthouse off the coast of Burma now

lighthouse off the coast of Burma now I had an early boyfriend don’t tell my

I had an early boyfriend don’t tell my

I had an early boyfriend don’t tell my husband that but I had an early

husband that but I had an early

husband that but I had an early boyfriend whose father was the trustee

boyfriend whose father was the trustee

boyfriend whose father was the trustee of the Scottish lighthouse and the two

of the Scottish lighthouse and the two

of the Scottish lighthouse and the two of them were lucky to get a visa in

of them were lucky to get a visa in

of them were lucky to get a visa in about 1985 to come out and visit the

about 1985 to come out and visit the

about 1985 to come out and visit the sister lighthouse in Burma and they

sister lighthouse in Burma and they

sister lighthouse in Burma and they brought all of the spare parts that they

brought all of the spare parts that they

brought all of the spare parts that they found in the back of the Scottish

found in the back of the Scottish

found in the back of the Scottish lighthouse because actually turns out

lighthouse because actually turns out

lighthouse because actually turns out you could use them all in Burma even

you could use them all in Burma even

you could use them all in Burma even though they were 20 years out of date

though they were 20 years out of date

though they were 20 years out of date back in Scotland so they came over on

back in Scotland so they came over on

back in Scotland so they came over on that trip and showed me the photos when

that trip and showed me the photos when

that trip and showed me the photos when he came back and I’d never heard a Burma

he came back and I’d never heard a Burma

he came back and I’d never heard a Burma I had no colonial grandfather I had no

I had no colonial grandfather I had no

I had no colonial grandfather I had no uncle who died in World War two but

uncle who died in World War two but

uncle who died in World War two but those images of Faneca of houses on

those images of Faneca of houses on

those images of Faneca of houses on stilts at the Delta and the White House

stilts at the Delta and the White House

stilts at the Delta and the White House really stuck in my mind and as a result

really stuck in my mind and as a result

really stuck in my mind and as a result when I came to join the Foreign Office

when I came to join the Foreign Office

when I came to join the Foreign Office two or three years later and they put in

two or three years later and they put in

two or three years later and they put in front of you a list and they said where

front of you a list and they said where

front of you a list and they said where do you want to go first what language

do you want to go first what language

do you want to go first what language did you want to learn and it was Moscow

did you want to learn and it was Moscow

did you want to learn and it was Moscow Beijing Tokyo Athens Lagos and then

Beijing Tokyo Athens Lagos and then

Beijing Tokyo Athens Lagos and then there was Rangoon and at the time it

there was Rangoon and at the time it

there was Rangoon and at the time it felt random I just ticked the box

felt random I just ticked the box

felt random I just ticked the box rangoon I now realise all of this was

rangoon I now realise all of this was

rangoon I now realise all of this was preordained but as a result they sent me

preordained but as a result they sent me

preordained but as a result they sent me off to learn Burmese in London for a few

off to learn Burmese in London for a few

off to learn Burmese in London for a few months and I came out here in July 1990

months and I came out here in July 1990

months and I came out here in July 1990 was full monsoon I was sweating just

was full monsoon I was sweating just

was full monsoon I was sweating just like I am now

like I am now

like I am now sweating in the humidity tain Lyn I

sweating in the humidity tain Lyn I

sweating in the humidity tain Lyn I think was a lot hotter and stickier he

think was a lot hotter and stickier he

think was a lot hotter and stickier he was at that time up on the Indian border

was at that time up on the Indian border

was at that time up on the Indian border and I got on with my job and one day the

and I got on with my job and one day the

and I got on with my job and one day the new lights what actually was the working

new lights what actually was the working

new lights what actually was the working people’s daily in those days for a name

people’s daily in those days for a name

people’s daily in those days for a name the working people’s daily our daily

the working people’s daily our daily

the working people’s daily our daily government newspaper came through the

government newspaper came through the

government newspaper came through the door and we read about a press con

door and we read about a press con

door and we read about a press con France now this was a press conference

France now this was a press conference

France now this was a press conference about and given by students who had fled

about and given by students who had fled

about and given by students who had fled to the border and who had come back and

to the border and who had come back and

to the border and who had come back and they told these terrible stories of

they told these terrible stories of

they told these terrible stories of torture of executions and how they’d

torture of executions and how they’d

torture of executions and how they’d survived

survived

survived and we in the embassy and indeed most

and we in the embassy and indeed most

and we in the embassy and indeed most people in Burma read in thought you know

people in Burma read in thought you know

people in Burma read in thought you know more military propaganda we couldn’t

more military propaganda we couldn’t

more military propaganda we couldn’t believe it we thought this was just a

believe it we thought this was just a

believe it we thought this was just a way of undermining the cause of a

way of undermining the cause of a

way of undermining the cause of a democracy but actually it was a great

democracy but actually it was a great

democracy but actually it was a great deal worse and what I didn’t also

deal worse and what I didn’t also

deal worse and what I didn’t also realize at the time was that the young

realize at the time was that the young

realize at the time was that the young man that you can see sitting on the edge

man that you can see sitting on the edge

man that you can see sitting on the edge of the row that was miner poozer and he

of the row that was miner poozer and he

of the row that was miner poozer and he also didn’t realize that the second

also didn’t realize that the second

also didn’t realize that the second secretary in embassy was the woman

secretary in embassy was the woman

secretary in embassy was the woman destined for him so he went back to his

destined for him so he went back to his

destined for him so he went back to his village I left Rangoon I went to

village I left Rangoon I went to

village I left Rangoon I went to Brussels six years there and I came back

Brussels six years there and I came back

Brussels six years there and I came back in 2002 as ambassador so at that stage

in 2002 as ambassador so at that stage

in 2002 as ambassador so at that stage tain Lin had gone into his jail career

tain Lin had gone into his jail career

tain Lin had gone into his jail career it was by that stage he was at Maui our

it was by that stage he was at Maui our

it was by that stage he was at Maui our jail back in the Delta and when I went

jail back in the Delta and when I went

jail back in the Delta and when I went to present my credentials to the senior

to present my credentials to the senior

to present my credentials to the senior General which was on the 31st of

General which was on the 31st of

General which was on the 31st of December 2002 which was tain Lin’s 36th

December 2002 which was tain Lin’s 36th

December 2002 which was tain Lin’s 36th birthday by chance I was 36 – I was one

birthday by chance I was 36 – I was one

birthday by chance I was 36 – I was one of the youngest ambassadors and I

of the youngest ambassadors and I

of the youngest ambassadors and I presented my credentials the photograph

presented my credentials the photograph

presented my credentials the photograph was showed in the newspaper and a few

was showed in the newspaper and a few

was showed in the newspaper and a few days later the newspaper was smuggled

days later the newspaper was smuggled

days later the newspaper was smuggled into miaow miaow jail as often happened

into miaow miaow jail as often happened

into miaow miaow jail as often happened and all the political prisoners had one

and all the political prisoners had one

and all the political prisoners had one of their sort of regular political chats

of their sort of regular political chats

of their sort of regular political chats and they decided to pick for today’s

and they decided to pick for today’s

and they decided to pick for today’s topic

topic

topic why has Britain sent an ambassador to

why has Britain sent an ambassador to

why has Britain sent an ambassador to Burma the US have not done it and nor

Burma the US have not done it and nor

Burma the US have not done it and nor should the Brits and talen was

should the Brits and talen was

should the Brits and talen was absolutely adamant that this was a case

absolutely adamant that this was a case

absolutely adamant that this was a case fortunately my government was not

fortunately my government was not

fortunately my government was not listening to him so I was there I got

listening to him so I was there I got

listening to him so I was there I got the job I tried to do what I could to

the job I tried to do what I could to

the job I tried to do what I could to support the cause of democracy they were

support the cause of democracy they were

support the cause of democracy they were difficult times and often we would find

difficult times and often we would find

difficult times and often we would find people turning up at our door and

people turning up at our door and

people turning up at our door and announce mostly undercover journalists

announce mostly undercover journalists

announce mostly undercover journalists to to ask us about this and one day I

to to ask us about this and one day I

to to ask us about this and one day I got a call from reception a woman called

got a call from reception a woman called

got a call from reception a woman called Lindell was sitting there Lindell are

Lindell was sitting there Lindell are

Lindell was sitting there Lindell are you out there somewhere she should be

you out there somewhere she should be

you out there somewhere she should be somewhere out there so Lindell I didn’t

somewhere out there so Lindell I didn’t

somewhere out there so Lindell I didn’t know I’d heard of her she came up and

know I’d heard of her she came up and

know I’d heard of her she came up and she said you got you got to help me

she said you got you got to help me

she said you got you got to help me you’ve got to help me there’s

you’ve got to help me there’s

you’ve got to help me there’s amazing amazing paintings you’ve got to

amazing amazing paintings you’ve got to

amazing amazing paintings you’ve got to put them somewhere safe we’ve heard you

put them somewhere safe we’ve heard you

put them somewhere safe we’ve heard you do that kind of thing I said maybe tell

do that kind of thing I said maybe tell

do that kind of thing I said maybe tell me more

me more

me more so she told me and she showed me the

so she told me and she showed me the

so she told me and she showed me the leaflet of an exhibition by a recently

leaflet of an exhibition by a recently

leaflet of an exhibition by a recently released political prisoner called tain

released political prisoner called tain

released political prisoner called tain Linh and she said these are paintings

Linh and she said these are paintings

Linh and she said these are paintings which are painted on prison uniforms

which are painted on prison uniforms

which are painted on prison uniforms they’ve all got stamped on the back

they’ve all got stamped on the back

they’ve all got stamped on the back property of the prison Department we

property of the prison Department we

property of the prison Department we need to get them out of here otherwise

need to get them out of here otherwise

need to get them out of here otherwise they’ll get seized soon can you help and

they’ll get seized soon can you help and

they’ll get seized soon can you help and I said okay look send him round and I’ll

I said okay look send him round and I’ll

I said okay look send him round and I’ll see what I can do so one afternoon he

see what I can do so one afternoon he

see what I can do so one afternoon he came round to my residence and I

came round to my residence and I

came round to my residence and I remember as we sat there drinking tea

remember as we sat there drinking tea

remember as we sat there drinking tea and we were drinking it from the

and we were drinking it from the

and we were drinking it from the gold-rimmed teacups and I remember

gold-rimmed teacups and I remember

gold-rimmed teacups and I remember looking at his head which was quite

looking at his head which was quite

looking at his head which was quite shaven that time we’re thinking gosh

shaven that time we’re thinking gosh

shaven that time we’re thinking gosh there’s some interesting scars on that

there’s some interesting scars on that

there’s some interesting scars on that head I wonder where they came from and

head I wonder where they came from and

head I wonder where they came from and so I learnt more about his story he in

so I learnt more about his story he in

so I learnt more about his story he in turn was looking at me and thinking gosh

turn was looking at me and thinking gosh

turn was looking at me and thinking gosh when we read about the British

when we read about the British

when we read about the British ambassador we’d assumed she was some old

ambassador we’d assumed she was some old

ambassador we’d assumed she was some old crone of 60 and this chick seems quite

crone of 60 and this chick seems quite

crone of 60 and this chick seems quite young so we got talking I took his

young so we got talking I took his

young so we got talking I took his paintings I packed them and sent them

paintings I packed them and sent them

paintings I packed them and sent them off to Amsterdam where there’s an

off to Amsterdam where there’s an

off to Amsterdam where there’s an archive which keeps some of the sort of

archive which keeps some of the sort of

archive which keeps some of the sort of social history of me and Marr safe and

social history of me and Marr safe and

social history of me and Marr safe and we used to meet up from time to time

we used to meet up from time to time

we used to meet up from time to time talking about language talking about

talking about language talking about

talking about language talking about politics talking about art and over the

politics talking about art and over the

politics talking about art and over the following sort of six or so months I

following sort of six or so months I

following sort of six or so months I sponsored his art exhibition at the time

sponsored his art exhibition at the time

sponsored his art exhibition at the time he was so poor he had to paint on

he was so poor he had to paint on

he was so poor he had to paint on recycled paper he painted my portrait

recycled paper he painted my portrait

recycled paper he painted my portrait and we used to talk about art and

and we used to talk about art and

and we used to talk about art and artists and one night we were sitting

artists and one night we were sitting

artists and one night we were sitting there watching a DVD about Jackson

there watching a DVD about Jackson

there watching a DVD about Jackson Pollock in my residence and then he

Pollock in my residence and then he

Pollock in my residence and then he didn’t go home now dr. tough so in me

didn’t go home now dr. tough so in me

didn’t go home now dr. tough so in me and my culture it’s really quite simple

and my culture it’s really quite simple

and my culture it’s really quite simple you hang your lone Gees on the line

you hang your lone Gees on the line

you hang your lone Gees on the line together it’s an established

together it’s an established

together it’s an established relationship when you’re an ambassador

relationship when you’re an ambassador

relationship when you’re an ambassador it’s a bit different number when you

it’s a bit different number when you

it’s a bit different number when you don’t do your laundry okay but number

don’t do your laundry okay but number

don’t do your laundry okay but number two you know when your lover is

two you know when your lover is

two you know when your lover is potentially an enemy of the state and

potentially an enemy of the state and

potentially an enemy of the state and you know you have a certain position you

you know you have a certain position you

you know you have a certain position you wonder what you’re meant to do so I

wonder what you’re meant to do so I

wonder what you’re meant to do so I turned to the diplomatic practice guide

turned to the diplomatic practice guide

turned to the diplomatic practice guide to see what I could find

to see what I could find

to see what I could find it wasn’t in there so I thought to

it wasn’t in there so I thought to

it wasn’t in there so I thought to myself okay what should we do well I’ve

myself okay what should we do well I’ve

myself okay what should we do well I’ve been told that in my staff there is

been told that in my staff there is

been told that in my staff there is bound to be an informer for military

bound to be an informer for military

bound to be an informer for military intelligence everybody’s told me they’re

intelligence everybody’s told me they’re

intelligence everybody’s told me they’re telling mi all the visitors coming to

telling mi all the visitors coming to

telling mi all the visitors coming to your house each day and even actually

your house each day and even actually

your house each day and even actually there were people who refused to come to

there were people who refused to come to

there were people who refused to come to my house because they insisted that

my house because they insisted that

my house because they insisted that there was somebody sitting with a camera

there was somebody sitting with a camera

there was somebody sitting with a camera in one of the towers of the Methodist

in one of the towers of the Methodist

in one of the towers of the Methodist Central Church across the gate so I took

Central Church across the gate so I took

Central Church across the gate so I took the band’s found that sooner or later

the band’s found that sooner or later

the band’s found that sooner or later because they would see Tanglin coming in

because they would see Tanglin coming in

because they would see Tanglin coming in and out every morning going to his

and out every morning going to his

and out every morning going to his English classes going to his studio but

English classes going to his studio but

English classes going to his studio but the week’s went on and it was quite

the week’s went on and it was quite

the week’s went on and it was quite clear that the word was not getting

clear that the word was not getting

clear that the word was not getting through and I felt somewhat so

through and I felt somewhat so

through and I felt somewhat so disappointed by this so I thought I can

disappointed by this so I thought I can

disappointed by this so I thought I can let me at least put the word out to my

let me at least put the word out to my

let me at least put the word out to my embassy so we were doing a blood

embassy so we were doing a blood

embassy so we were doing a blood donation and I I took tainment along you

donation and I I took tainment along you

donation and I I took tainment along you know work it out for yourselves guys

know work it out for yourselves guys

know work it out for yourselves guys which my embassy staff being smart

which my embassy staff being smart

which my embassy staff being smart people did not military intelligence

people did not military intelligence

people did not military intelligence however so then we thought okay Tanglin

however so then we thought okay Tanglin

however so then we thought okay Tanglin was going to get a passport he actually

was going to get a passport he actually

was going to get a passport he actually went and told the agent that he was

went and told the agent that he was

went and told the agent that he was going out with a British ambassador ago

going out with a British ambassador ago

going out with a British ambassador ago I didn’t take notes so then we went to

I didn’t take notes so then we went to

I didn’t take notes so then we went to his village and we had to put in a

his village and we had to put in a

his village and we had to put in a diplomatic note because they had to

diplomatic note because they had to

diplomatic note because they had to arrange a security detail and so you

arrange a security detail and so you

arrange a security detail and so you know the word was now official and then

know the word was now official and then

know the word was now official and then we went off to UK for the first time now

we went off to UK for the first time now

we went off to UK for the first time now along the way there had been somebody

along the way there had been somebody

along the way there had been somebody who’d worked it out Tsar Ghana a friend

who’d worked it out Tsar Ghana a friend

who’d worked it out Tsar Ghana a friend of both of ours

of both of ours

of both of ours who had given tain Lynn to green silk

who had given tain Lynn to green silk

who had given tain Lynn to green silk lounges matching salt lounges for his

lounges matching salt lounges for his

lounges matching salt lounges for his marriage and he’d given them to me it

marriage and he’d given them to me it

marriage and he’d given them to me it said wear these when we get married and

said wear these when we get married and

said wear these when we get married and I said yes but you do wonder our British

I said yes but you do wonder our British

I said yes but you do wonder our British traditions have to firstly ask me but I

traditions have to firstly ask me but I

traditions have to firstly ask me but I put them to one side so I took him to a

put them to one side so I took him to a

put them to one side so I took him to a friend’s wedding and let him do a little

friend’s wedding and let him do a little

friend’s wedding and let him do a little bit of research into these quaint

bit of research into these quaint

bit of research into these quaint English customs and so he discovered the

English customs and so he discovered the

English customs and so he discovered the concept of the proposal and then we went

concept of the proposal and then we went

concept of the proposal and then we went to Cornwall and in Cornwall I discovered

to Cornwall and in Cornwall I discovered

to Cornwall and in Cornwall I discovered everywhere

everywhere

everywhere Taylan goes art follows or comes along

Taylan goes art follows or comes along

Taylan goes art follows or comes along in the car with us and in this

in the car with us and in this

in the car with us and in this particular case I was sitting there on

particular case I was sitting there on

particular case I was sitting there on the beach and reading the newspaper and

the beach and reading the newspaper and

the beach and reading the newspaper and he was scuffing around and he told me to

he was scuffing around and he told me to

he was scuffing around and he told me to go up to the top of the beach and say

go up to the top of the beach and say

go up to the top of the beach and say you know what do you think and I said

you know what do you think and I said

you know what do you think and I said you’ve got the grammar wrong

you’ve got the grammar wrong

you’ve got the grammar wrong and then I said okay let we let week

so we returned and by that stage the

so we returned and by that stage the word had got out and the senior general

word had got out and the senior general

word had got out and the senior general had called in the forest minute whose

had called in the forest minute whose

had called in the forest minute whose minister who was from the village and

minister who was from the village and

minister who was from the village and said what’s going on the British

said what’s going on the British

said what’s going on the British ambassador’s marrying somebody in your

ambassador’s marrying somebody in your

ambassador’s marrying somebody in your village find out about it

village find out about it

village find out about it so the forest minister went rushing back

so the forest minister went rushing back

so the forest minister went rushing back and fortunately our visit had been

and fortunately our visit had been

and fortunately our visit had been documented by security and put all

documented by security and put all

documented by security and put all together in an album called moments of

together in an album called moments of

together in an album called moments of wonderfulness and so every step of our

wonderfulness and so every step of our

wonderfulness and so every step of our visit was there and he was briefed and

visit was there and he was briefed and

visit was there and he was briefed and he reported back and it but the general

he reported back and it but the general

he reported back and it but the general said have they got married yet have they

said have they got married yet have they

said have they got married yet have they got married yet we need to know now we

got married yet we need to know now we

got married yet we need to know now we hadn’t at that stage got married we did

hadn’t at that stage got married we did

hadn’t at that stage got married we did then go on to marry many many times for

then go on to marry many many times for

then go on to marry many many times for various religious bureaucratic and

various religious bureaucratic and

various religious bureaucratic and social reasons including at the mahadji

social reasons including at the mahadji

social reasons including at the mahadji monastery and what we found at our

monastery and what we found at our

monastery and what we found at our marriage was that we didn’t have the

marriage was that we didn’t have the

marriage was that we didn’t have the relatives to fill the kind of the

relatives to fill the kind of the

relatives to fill the kind of the groom’s photo or the groom’s family the

groom’s photo or the groom’s family the

groom’s photo or the groom’s family the bride’s family but we had enough from

bride’s family but we had enough from

bride’s family but we had enough from Yaya Jail we had enough for mandalay Jo

Yaya Jail we had enough for mandalay Jo

Yaya Jail we had enough for mandalay Jo we had the jungle we had the 88

we had the jungle we had the 88

we had the jungle we had the 88 generation and as a result we had

generation and as a result we had

generation and as a result we had special branch outside clicking all the

special branch outside clicking all the

special branch outside clicking all the time as a backup set of wedding photos

time as a backup set of wedding photos

time as a backup set of wedding photos so we married and there are many others

so we married and there are many others

so we married and there are many others in my situation I think many other

in my situation I think many other

in my situation I think many other Western women who have married Burmese

Western women who have married Burmese

Western women who have married Burmese men so I asked them what’s been the

men so I asked them what’s been the

men so I asked them what’s been the biggest challenge for you because for me

biggest challenge for you because for me

biggest challenge for you because for me it was actually the bureaucracy in the

it was actually the bureaucracy in the

it was actually the bureaucracy in the paperwork of getting the visas they said

paperwork of getting the visas they said

paperwork of getting the visas they said the main challenge for us is usually the

the main challenge for us is usually the

the main challenge for us is usually the in-laws and it’s more specific than that

in-laws and it’s more specific than that

in-laws and it’s more specific than that it’s usually the washing machine why

it’s usually the washing machine why

it’s usually the washing machine why because in Myanmar custom men’s and

because in Myanmar custom men’s and

because in Myanmar custom men’s and women’s undergarments are not meant to

women’s undergarments are not meant to

women’s undergarments are not meant to be mixed it’s bad for the man it affects

be mixed it’s bad for the man it affects

be mixed it’s bad for the man it affects his masculinity his poem and some of my

his masculinity his poem and some of my

his masculinity his poem and some of my friends say that they’d found their

friends say that they’d found their

friends say that they’d found their in-laws looking through the laundry

in-laws looking through the laundry

in-laws looking through the laundry basket to see whether the lazy wife was

basket to see whether the lazy wife was

basket to see whether the lazy wife was mixing it up now I am very very relieved

mixing it up now I am very very relieved

mixing it up now I am very very relieved that my mother-in-law has never to my

that my mother-in-law has never to my

that my mother-in-law has never to my knowledge looked in my washing machine

knowledge looked in my washing machine

knowledge looked in my washing machine her reaction on us marrying is oh my god

her reaction on us marrying is oh my god

her reaction on us marrying is oh my god thank God my son is going to eat finally

thank God my son is going to eat finally

thank God my son is going to eat finally because she had seen

because she had seen

because she had seen you know a Sun in the jungle in jail and

you know a Sun in the jungle in jail and

you know a Sun in the jungle in jail and then she was expecting him to be a

then she was expecting him to be a

then she was expecting him to be a penniless artist so marrying an

penniless artist so marrying an

penniless artist so marrying an ambassador she thought is going to get

ambassador she thought is going to get

ambassador she thought is going to get him at least three square meals a day

him at least three square meals a day

him at least three square meals a day which it certainly has we found that

which it certainly has we found that

which it certainly has we found that actually through a shared art and

actually through a shared art and

actually through a shared art and culture and a shared commitment to

culture and a shared commitment to

culture and a shared commitment to things like freedom of expression there

things like freedom of expression there

things like freedom of expression there hasn’t really been that much difference

hasn’t really been that much difference

hasn’t really been that much difference in our two cultures and tane Lin himself

in our two cultures and tane Lin himself

in our two cultures and tane Lin himself is a very adaptable person so wherever

is a very adaptable person so wherever

is a very adaptable person so wherever he goes he uses art and so my friends

he goes he uses art and so my friends

he goes he uses art and so my friends would ask him how’d she find London now

would ask him how’d she find London now

would ask him how’d she find London now that you’re living there and he would

that you’re living there and he would

that you’re living there and he would paint it he would mix up looking out on

paint it he would mix up looking out on

paint it he would mix up looking out on top of Nelson’s column and he did the

top of Nelson’s column and he did the

top of Nelson’s column and he did the same for Amsterdam for Brussels for

same for Amsterdam for Brussels for

same for Amsterdam for Brussels for Venice and so on so it’s been art

Venice and so on so it’s been art

Venice and so on so it’s been art culture language which has brought us

culture language which has brought us

culture language which has brought us together but there has been one other

together but there has been one other

together but there has been one other group which has had a different

group which has had a different

group which has had a different narrative the military government we

narrative the military government we

narrative the military government we discovered this the other day we met a

discovered this the other day we met a

discovered this the other day we met a Frenchman who had been detained by

Frenchman who had been detained by

Frenchman who had been detained by military intelligence and they said to

military intelligence and they said to

military intelligence and they said to him do you know Vicki Bowman and he said

him do you know Vicki Bowman and he said

him do you know Vicki Bowman and he said well I think I’ve met her at a

well I think I’ve met her at a

well I think I’ve met her at a conference or two and they said you know

conference or two and they said you know

conference or two and they said you know what she did she kidnapped or Miam our

what she did she kidnapped or Miam our

what she did she kidnapped or Miam our artist and she took him to London I

think it was destiny there was no there

think it was destiny there was no there was no struggle on my hands we were

was no struggle on my hands we were

was no struggle on my hands we were destined to marry it was on Naboo sir

destined to marry it was on Naboo sir

destined to marry it was on Naboo sir thank you very much

thank you very much

thank you very much [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

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