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Why I Became A Brewer | Erik Hystad | TEDxHelena


my name is Eric high stead and I’m a

my name is Eric high stead and I’m a brewer with Blackfoot River Brewing

brewer with Blackfoot River Brewing

brewer with Blackfoot River Brewing Company here and how long I’m onto him I

Company here and how long I’m onto him I

Company here and how long I’m onto him I didn’t start off as a brewer I went to

didn’t start off as a brewer I went to

didn’t start off as a brewer I went to school and studied math and physics

school and studied math and physics

school and studied math and physics education at Montana State University

education at Montana State University

education at Montana State University and was a teacher for four years before

and was a teacher for four years before

and was a teacher for four years before I realized that wasn’t really a good fit

I realized that wasn’t really a good fit

I realized that wasn’t really a good fit for me I have always had an enthusiasm

for me I have always had an enthusiasm

for me I have always had an enthusiasm for learning and I really like working

for learning and I really like working

for learning and I really like working with young people so when I was in

with young people so when I was in

with young people so when I was in college I changed major just a couple of

college I changed major just a couple of

college I changed major just a couple of times before choosing teaching and

times before choosing teaching and

times before choosing teaching and really hoped that through education I’d

really hoped that through education I’d

really hoped that through education I’d be able to share my passion for learning

be able to share my passion for learning

be able to share my passion for learning and math and science with young people

and math and science with young people

and math and science with young people and that would be a really fulfilling

and that would be a really fulfilling

and that would be a really fulfilling way to spend my career and I really

way to spend my career and I really

way to spend my career and I really clung on to that hope for four years

clung on to that hope for four years

clung on to that hope for four years before I realized it just wasn’t a good

before I realized it just wasn’t a good

before I realized it just wasn’t a good fit I tried lots of different things to

fit I tried lots of different things to

fit I tried lots of different things to remedy that

remedy that

remedy that I changed grade levels I change subjects

I changed grade levels I change subjects

I changed grade levels I change subjects I went from teaching math to science I

I went from teaching math to science I

I went from teaching math to science I even changed schools and moved to

even changed schools and moved to

even changed schools and moved to Colorado and got a teaching job at a

Colorado and got a teaching job at a

Colorado and got a teaching job at a charter school and none of that really

charter school and none of that really

charter school and none of that really mattered it was it was kind of a hard

mattered it was it was kind of a hard

mattered it was it was kind of a hard thing to swallow because there’s all

thing to swallow because there’s all

thing to swallow because there’s all these graduate school programs dedicated

these graduate school programs dedicated

these graduate school programs dedicated to getting other professionals to get

to getting other professionals to get

to getting other professionals to get into education and so I really felt like

into education and so I really felt like

into education and so I really felt like I was swimming against the current a

I was swimming against the current a

I was swimming against the current a little bit when I was at that charter

little bit when I was at that charter

little bit when I was at that charter school in Greeley I kind of hit my

school in Greeley I kind of hit my

school in Greeley I kind of hit my tipping point and decided that I was

tipping point and decided that I was

tipping point and decided that I was gonna take a hiatus for education I

gonna take a hiatus for education I

gonna take a hiatus for education I wasn’t ready to totally get out of

wasn’t ready to totally get out of

wasn’t ready to totally get out of teaching altogether but I wanted to take

teaching altogether but I wanted to take

teaching altogether but I wanted to take a break to see if I missed it and I was

a break to see if I missed it and I was

a break to see if I missed it and I was living in Fort Collins at the time and

living in Fort Collins at the time and

living in Fort Collins at the time and my wife was going to graduate school at

my wife was going to graduate school at

my wife was going to graduate school at Colorado State and we loved going to

Colorado State and we loved going to

Colorado State and we loved going to breweries together it’s one of the

breweries together it’s one of the

breweries together it’s one of the things that we kind of bonded over when

things that we kind of bonded over when

things that we kind of bonded over when we first started dating in fact every

we first started dating in fact every

we first started dating in fact every time we travel together we always time

time we travel together we always time

time we travel together we always time our stops for gas at towns that have

our stops for gas at towns that have

our stops for gas at towns that have little breweries so we can stop and

little breweries so we can stop and

little breweries so we can stop and share a flight and and buy a growler

share a flight and and buy a growler

share a flight and and buy a growler stuff started our growler collection

stuff started our growler collection

stuff started our growler collection when she was an AmeriCorps VISTA here in

when she was an AmeriCorps VISTA here in

when she was an AmeriCorps VISTA here in Montana and now we have over a hundred

Montana and now we have over a hundred

Montana and now we have over a hundred growlers boxed up in our garage so

growlers boxed up in our garage so

growlers boxed up in our garage so it’s quite the collection any case one

it’s quite the collection any case one

it’s quite the collection any case one of the breweries in Fort Collins that we

of the breweries in Fort Collins that we

of the breweries in Fort Collins that we went to a lot and this is one of the

went to a lot and this is one of the

went to a lot and this is one of the original craft breweries is New Belgium

original craft breweries is New Belgium

original craft breweries is New Belgium Brewing Company they were a big sponsor

Brewing Company they were a big sponsor

Brewing Company they were a big sponsor for Stef’s graduate program and one of

for Stef’s graduate program and one of

for Stef’s graduate program and one of their company mottos is follow your

their company mottos is follow your

their company mottos is follow your folly and when I was deciding what I

folly and when I was deciding what I

folly and when I was deciding what I wanted to do next I thought a lot about

wanted to do next I thought a lot about

wanted to do next I thought a lot about that and I wasn’t sure what I was wanted

that and I wasn’t sure what I was wanted

that and I wasn’t sure what I was wanted wanted to do but I knew that I wanted it

wanted to do but I knew that I wanted it

wanted to do but I knew that I wanted it to be in no way related to education and

to be in no way related to education and

to be in no way related to education and that it was gonna be a bit of a folly

that it was gonna be a bit of a folly

that it was gonna be a bit of a folly you know something that I’d always

you know something that I’d always

you know something that I’d always wanted to do but I was either too afraid

wanted to do but I was either too afraid

wanted to do but I was either too afraid to try it or I didn’t even know where to

to try it or I didn’t even know where to

to try it or I didn’t even know where to begin

begin

begin so I talked to a couple of military

so I talked to a couple of military

so I talked to a couple of military recruiters to see if that was gonna be a

recruiters to see if that was gonna be a

recruiters to see if that was gonna be a good fit I went and looked at

good fit I went and looked at

good fit I went and looked at apprenticeship programs to get into

apprenticeship programs to get into

apprenticeship programs to get into different trades and I even went to

different trades and I even went to

different trades and I even went to truck driving school over spring break

truck driving school over spring break

truck driving school over spring break my last year of teaching to get my

my last year of teaching to get my

my last year of teaching to get my commercial driver’s license and none of

commercial driver’s license and none of

commercial driver’s license and none of those seemed a lot that great so like I

those seemed a lot that great so like I

those seemed a lot that great so like I said I wanted to follow my folly so

said I wanted to follow my folly so

said I wanted to follow my folly so taking a few steps back

taking a few steps back

taking a few steps back my brother-in-law Tom who lives in

my brother-in-law Tom who lives in

my brother-in-law Tom who lives in Seattle taught me how to homebrew when I

Seattle taught me how to homebrew when I

Seattle taught me how to homebrew when I was early college and every time he and

was early college and every time he and

was early college and every time he and I get together we always have a couple

I get together we always have a couple

I get together we always have a couple of craft beers or maybe some of our own

of craft beers or maybe some of our own

of craft beers or maybe some of our own home brew beer and we always dreamed

home brew beer and we always dreamed

home brew beer and we always dreamed about opening our own brewery so we’d

about opening our own brewery so we’d

about opening our own brewery so we’d sit down and we talk about taproom

sit down and we talk about taproom

sit down and we talk about taproom layouts and flagship styles or you know

layouts and flagship styles or you know

layouts and flagship styles or you know we even came up with our own our own

we even came up with our own our own

we even came up with our own our own brewery name was gonna be called eighth

brewery name was gonna be called eighth

brewery name was gonna be called eighth day breweries because on the eighth day

day breweries because on the eighth day

day breweries because on the eighth day man made beer and it was good so any

man made beer and it was good so any

man made beer and it was good so any case I figured brewing beer was as good

case I figured brewing beer was as good

case I figured brewing beer was as good a following as any and so I decided I

a following as any and so I decided I

a following as any and so I decided I was gonna go to brewing school and

was gonna go to brewing school and

was gonna go to brewing school and become a professional brewer so I called

become a professional brewer so I called

become a professional brewer so I called up UC Davis and looked again into their

up UC Davis and looked again into their

up UC Davis and looked again into their brewing program only to find out there

brewing program only to find out there

brewing program only to find out there was a three-year waitlist so I fell back

was a three-year waitlist so I fell back

was a three-year waitlist so I fell back on my other plan to decided I was gonna

on my other plan to decided I was gonna

on my other plan to decided I was gonna move to the Bakken oil fields and drive

move to the Bakken oil fields and drive

move to the Bakken oil fields and drive truck and make money while I waited to

truck and make money while I waited to

truck and make money while I waited to go become a brewer but before I moved

go become a brewer but before I moved

go become a brewer but before I moved out there I came back to Helena and was

out there I came back to Helena and was

out there I came back to Helena and was having a beer with my wife and some

having a beer with my wife and some

having a beer with my wife and some friends at the Blackfoot and noticed a

friends at the Blackfoot and noticed a

friends at the Blackfoot and noticed a sign on the pucker machine that said

sign on the pucker machine that said

sign on the pucker machine that said wanted assistant brewer so we both got

wanted assistant brewer so we both got

wanted assistant brewer so we both got really excited staff especially she

really excited staff especially she

really excited staff especially she immediately introduced me to Tim the

immediately introduced me to Tim the

immediately introduced me to Tim the head brewer there and insisted that I

head brewer there and insisted that I

head brewer there and insisted that I apply I applied and got the job but um

apply I applied and got the job but um

apply I applied and got the job but um it was still a long road from where I’m

it was still a long road from where I’m

it was still a long road from where I’m at today anybody that’s ever brewed beer

at today anybody that’s ever brewed beer

at today anybody that’s ever brewed beer whether it’s homebrew professionally

whether it’s homebrew professionally

whether it’s homebrew professionally know that brewing is about 95 percent

know that brewing is about 95 percent

know that brewing is about 95 percent cleaning and sanitizing and that was

cleaning and sanitizing and that was

cleaning and sanitizing and that was definitely 100 percent of my job I

definitely 100 percent of my job I

definitely 100 percent of my job I started off I started off just cleaning

started off I started off just cleaning

started off I started off just cleaning kegs and tanks and occasionally kagan

kegs and tanks and occasionally kagan

kegs and tanks and occasionally kagan out some beer it was part-time

out some beer it was part-time

out some beer it was part-time and it didn’t pair pay nearly as much as

and it didn’t pair pay nearly as much as

and it didn’t pair pay nearly as much as teaching did so I had to take a second

teaching did so I had to take a second

teaching did so I had to take a second job in order to make ends meet

job in order to make ends meet

job in order to make ends meet I started waiting tables and bartending

I started waiting tables and bartending

I started waiting tables and bartending and the next two and a half years I had

and the next two and a half years I had

and the next two and a half years I had to keep that second job in order to to

to keep that second job in order to to

to keep that second job in order to to make it I’d worked 60 to 70 hours a week

make it I’d worked 60 to 70 hours a week

make it I’d worked 60 to 70 hours a week between the two jobs and usually only

between the two jobs and usually only

between the two jobs and usually only get about one or two days off per month

get about one or two days off per month

get about one or two days off per month it was a pretty rough time but on the

it was a pretty rough time but on the

it was a pretty rough time but on the other side of things at the black foot

other side of things at the black foot

other side of things at the black foot like the more I was there the more I

like the more I was there the more I

like the more I was there the more I learned I started learning how to brew

learned I started learning how to brew

learned I started learning how to brew and just really Dell or dove in to

and just really Dell or dove in to

and just really Dell or dove in to learning more about fermentation and

learning more about fermentation and

learning more about fermentation and brewing I go to conferences I’d read

brewing I go to conferences I’d read

brewing I go to conferences I’d read things I’d look at videos online

things I’d look at videos online

things I’d look at videos online anything I could do the more I learned

anything I could do the more I learned

anything I could do the more I learned the more I really began to love that job

the more I really began to love that job

the more I really began to love that job so after a couple of years I was

so after a couple of years I was

so after a couple of years I was promoted to brewer own is able to quit

promoted to brewer own is able to quit

promoted to brewer own is able to quit my quit my second job waiting tables and

my quit my second job waiting tables and

my quit my second job waiting tables and bartending and now cleaning was win 90%

bartending and now cleaning was win 90%

bartending and now cleaning was win 90% of my job not every day is perfect at

of my job not every day is perfect at

of my job not every day is perfect at the black foot but I really really love

the black foot but I really really love

the black foot but I really really love it

it

it I work longer hours for Less pay with

I work longer hours for Less pay with

I work longer hours for Less pay with worse benefits than I ever did as a

worse benefits than I ever did as a

worse benefits than I ever did as a teacher but I am infinitely happier as a

teacher but I am infinitely happier as a

teacher but I am infinitely happier as a physics and math nerd the creative

physics and math nerd the creative

physics and math nerd the creative process has always kind of eluded me I

process has always kind of eluded me I

process has always kind of eluded me I can’t write or sing or dance or paint or

can’t write or sing or dance or paint or

can’t write or sing or dance or paint or draw unless there’s a formula it tells

draw unless there’s a formula it tells

draw unless there’s a formula it tells me how to do it so brewing is kind of

me how to do it so brewing is kind of

me how to do it so brewing is kind of the perfect marriage of art and science

the perfect marriage of art and science

the perfect marriage of art and science there’s this foundation of fermentation

there’s this foundation of fermentation

there’s this foundation of fermentation that provides the framework for me to be

that provides the framework for me to be

that provides the framework for me to be creative in designing new recipes for

creative in designing new recipes for

creative in designing new recipes for new beers there’s over a hundred

new beers there’s over a hundred

new beers there’s over a hundred different recognized beer styles

different recognized beer styles

different recognized beer styles literally hundreds of varieties of yeast

literally hundreds of varieties of yeast

literally hundreds of varieties of yeast and bacteria and malt and hops which

and bacteria and malt and hops which

and bacteria and malt and hops which provides me with an endless

provides me with an endless

provides me with an endless opportunity to learn to be creative and

opportunity to learn to be creative and

opportunity to learn to be creative and to grow also I still could use my

to grow also I still could use my

to grow also I still could use my teaching skills as a brewer one of my

teaching skills as a brewer one of my

teaching skills as a brewer one of my favorite parts of my job is giving tours

favorite parts of my job is giving tours

favorite parts of my job is giving tours to people with a production facility and

to people with a production facility and

to people with a production facility and teaching them how we brew our beer at

teaching them how we brew our beer at

teaching them how we brew our beer at the Blackfoot I also love working brew

the Blackfoot I also love working brew

the Blackfoot I also love working brew fests talking with people about how what

fests talking with people about how what

fests talking with people about how what their favorite beers are how they brew

their favorite beers are how they brew

their favorite beers are how they brew them how we do them and just bouncing

them how we do them and just bouncing

them how we do them and just bouncing ideas I can talk for hours about beer my

ideas I can talk for hours about beer my

ideas I can talk for hours about beer my path to becoming Brewers was kind of a

path to becoming Brewers was kind of a

path to becoming Brewers was kind of a long and difficult one that took a lot

long and difficult one that took a lot

long and difficult one that took a lot of commitment when I was working those

of commitment when I was working those

of commitment when I was working those long long days it would have been really

long long days it would have been really

long long days it would have been really easy for me to just kind of fall back to

easy for me to just kind of fall back to

easy for me to just kind of fall back to the familiarity and apply for a teaching

the familiarity and apply for a teaching

the familiarity and apply for a teaching job and actually did that twice but

job and actually did that twice but

job and actually did that twice but thankfully I was drew from consideration

thankfully I was drew from consideration

thankfully I was drew from consideration at the last moment and decided to stay

at the last moment and decided to stay

at the last moment and decided to stay the difficult course and I was able to

the difficult course and I was able to

the difficult course and I was able to do that because I was following the

do that because I was following the

do that because I was following the dream I was following my folly changing

dream I was following my folly changing

dream I was following my folly changing careers can be a difficult and daunting

careers can be a difficult and daunting

careers can be a difficult and daunting thing to confront but if you’re

thing to confront but if you’re

thing to confront but if you’re following your folly it makes a lot

following your folly it makes a lot

following your folly it makes a lot easier thank you

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