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so with the name Jack Johnson what’s

so with the name Jack Johnson what’s next after falling that music I hope you

next after falling that music I hope you

next after falling that music I hope you don’t have the right I hope you have the

don’t have the right I hope you have the

don’t have the right I hope you have the right idea cuz you got the engineer so

right idea cuz you got the engineer so

right idea cuz you got the engineer so hang with me but the idea of what next

hang with me but the idea of what next

hang with me but the idea of what next for an engineer is really what fuels a

for an engineer is really what fuels a

for an engineer is really what fuels a lot of us I mean the dream open up the

lot of us I mean the dream open up the

lot of us I mean the dream open up the imagination to think about what can be

imagination to think about what can be

imagination to think about what can be what problems can you solve it really

what problems can you solve it really

what problems can you solve it really keeps me going and today I wanted to

keeps me going and today I wanted to

keeps me going and today I wanted to share with you a little bit of what I

share with you a little bit of what I

share with you a little bit of what I see for our community in the future of

see for our community in the future of

see for our community in the future of technology and business and so we’re

technology and business and so we’re

technology and business and so we’re going to talk about a little energy

going to talk about a little energy

going to talk about a little energy storage but before we go there it’s

storage but before we go there it’s

storage but before we go there it’s important to have the right perspective

important to have the right perspective

important to have the right perspective and one of the things that I’ve learned

and one of the things that I’ve learned

and one of the things that I’ve learned in my career is that how you look at a

in my career is that how you look at a

in my career is that how you look at a problem governs how you solve that

problem governs how you solve that

problem governs how you solve that problem so first I want you all to turn

problem so first I want you all to turn

problem so first I want you all to turn your imaginations on for just a moment

your imaginations on for just a moment

your imaginations on for just a moment and I want you to think about being the

and I want you to think about being the

and I want you to think about being the 18 late 1890s all right you don’t know

18 late 1890s all right you don’t know

18 late 1890s all right you don’t know anything about today or modern

anything about today or modern

anything about today or modern transportation you just think okay 1890s

transportation you just think okay 1890s

transportation you just think okay 1890s now I want you to imagine you’re dressed

now I want you to imagine you’re dressed

now I want you to imagine you’re dressed to be seen you’re walking down the

to be seen you’re walking down the

to be seen you’re walking down the street and you smell these natural

street and you smell these natural

street and you smell these natural materials you’ve got this cotton burlap

materials you’ve got this cotton burlap

materials you’ve got this cotton burlap leather think about those smells think

leather think about those smells think

leather think about those smells think about your boots walking on wooden

about your boots walking on wooden

about your boots walking on wooden sidewalks okay you’re in that time

sidewalks okay you’re in that time

sidewalks okay you’re in that time period you feel the scratch of wool on

period you feel the scratch of wool on

period you feel the scratch of wool on your wool jacket now you decide you’re

your wool jacket now you decide you’re

your wool jacket now you decide you’re going to walk across the street take

going to walk across the street take

going to walk across the street take your turn need to talk walk towards the

your turn need to talk walk towards the

your turn need to talk walk towards the street and you’re washed with the smell

street and you’re washed with the smell

street and you’re washed with the smell of transportation of the time oh no no

of transportation of the time oh no no

of transportation of the time oh no no laughing you don’t know about that right

laughing you don’t know about that right

laughing you don’t know about that right that’s normal life every day

that’s normal life every day

that’s normal life every day instinctively you know when you step

instinctively you know when you step

instinctively you know when you step down not to step on anything and

down not to step on anything and

down not to step on anything and pleasant that’s that’s normal now as

pleasant that’s that’s normal now as

pleasant that’s that’s normal now as you’re crossing that Street you hear

you’re crossing that Street you hear

you’re crossing that Street you hear sound sound you’ve not heard before you

sound sound you’ve not heard before you

sound sound you’ve not heard before you know it’s mechanical but you can’t make

know it’s mechanical but you can’t make

know it’s mechanical but you can’t make it out and you happen to look over and

it out and you happen to look over and

it out and you happen to look over and you see a carriage looks like a carriage

you see a carriage looks like a carriage

you see a carriage looks like a carriage that you’ve seen it normal but then you

that you’ve seen it normal but then you

that you’ve seen it normal but then you realize it’s making the noise your brain

realize it’s making the noise your brain

realize it’s making the noise your brain it’s processing what are you seeing then

it’s processing what are you seeing then

it’s processing what are you seeing then you realize it’s moving it’s moving

you realize it’s moving it’s moving

you realize it’s moving it’s moving without a horse how does that work right

without a horse how does that work right

without a horse how does that work right our perspective is we don’t know

our perspective is we don’t know

our perspective is we don’t know anything else it’s a horse without a

anything else it’s a horse without a

anything else it’s a horse without a carriage it’s the horseless carriage

carriage it’s the horseless carriage

carriage it’s the horseless carriage that event we just talked about really

that event we just talked about really

that event we just talked about really happened in late 1890s the very first

happened in late 1890s the very first

happened in late 1890s the very first car showed up here in Holland Michigan

car showed up here in Holland Michigan

car showed up here in Holland Michigan and in fact the the purchaser of that

and in fact the the purchaser of that

and in fact the the purchaser of that car brought it back from New York

car brought it back from New York

car brought it back from New York actually have the second car three years

actually have the second car three years

actually have the second car three years later in Holland Michigan now it would

later in Holland Michigan now it would

later in Holland Michigan now it would take almost 20 years after that first

take almost 20 years after that first

take almost 20 years after that first event before what we call the automobile

event before what we call the automobile

event before what we call the automobile today became a regular sight something

today became a regular sight something

today became a regular sight something that every person could own before the

that every person could own before the

that every person could own before the collective knowledge was gained to know

collective knowledge was gained to know

collective knowledge was gained to know what to do with this thing we call now

what to do with this thing we call now

what to do with this thing we call now an automobile so that vehicle that

an automobile so that vehicle that

an automobile so that vehicle that initial vehicle created what I call an

initial vehicle created what I call an

initial vehicle created what I call an economic platform it created an amazing

economic platform it created an amazing

economic platform it created an amazing amount of wealth and it actually changed

amount of wealth and it actually changed

amount of wealth and it actually changed our community in a lot of ways if you

our community in a lot of ways if you

our community in a lot of ways if you think back a little bit you’re going to

think back a little bit you’re going to

think back a little bit you’re going to see companies that were foundational

see companies that were foundational

see companies that were foundational changes in the way our community works

changes in the way our community works

changes in the way our community works today from advanced technology to

today from advanced technology to

today from advanced technology to revolutionary chemistry systems

revolutionary chemistry systems

revolutionary chemistry systems manufacturing material science polymers

manufacturing material science polymers

manufacturing material science polymers the ability to convert those polymers in

the ability to convert those polymers in

the ability to convert those polymers in new ways Holland Michigan is an

new ways Holland Michigan is an

new ways Holland Michigan is an absolutely amazing place and its

absolutely amazing place and its

absolutely amazing place and its diversity of Technology and capabilities

diversity of Technology and capabilities

diversity of Technology and capabilities all built in this one one community

all built in this one one community

all built in this one one community that’s for interesting there’s over a

that’s for interesting there’s over a

that’s for interesting there’s over a hundred and fifty manufacturing

hundred and fifty manufacturing

hundred and fifty manufacturing companies right here in our local

companies right here in our local

companies right here in our local Chamber alone building components for

Chamber alone building components for

Chamber alone building components for today’s automobile we know there’s over

today’s automobile we know there’s over

today’s automobile we know there’s over fifteen dealerships servers use us of

fifteen dealerships servers use us of

fifteen dealerships servers use us of consumers every day employing

consumers every day employing

consumers every day employing technicians and then of course you got

technicians and then of course you got

technicians and then of course you got the services side which is actually

the services side which is actually

the services side which is actually quite larger but you think of General

quite larger but you think of General

quite larger but you think of General Services will change it but then you

Services will change it but then you

Services will change it but then you think about bank’s loans insurance it’s

think about bank’s loans insurance it’s

think about bank’s loans insurance it’s a huge economy so what is that next

a huge economy so what is that next

a huge economy so what is that next economic platform what

economic platform what

economic platform what out there that has the ability to reach

out there that has the ability to reach

out there that has the ability to reach and change our community that kind of

and change our community that kind of

and change our community that kind of scale well I believe I’ve got an idea of

scale well I believe I’ve got an idea of

scale well I believe I’ve got an idea of what it’s going to be it’s called

what it’s going to be it’s called

what it’s going to be it’s called advanced energy storage now some of your

advanced energy storage now some of your

advanced energy storage now some of your going that’s so 2008 I’ve heard that

going that’s so 2008 I’ve heard that

going that’s so 2008 I’ve heard that before and if you’ve got that idea great

before and if you’ve got that idea great

before and if you’ve got that idea great hang on to it for just a minute for

hang on to it for just a minute for

hang on to it for just a minute for those that you don’t know 2008 through

those that you don’t know 2008 through

those that you don’t know 2008 through 2010 was kind of crazy for our community

2010 was kind of crazy for our community

2010 was kind of crazy for our community the economy was going nuts we didn’t

the economy was going nuts we didn’t

the economy was going nuts we didn’t know where things were going to go and a

know where things were going to go and a

know where things were going to go and a great deal of investment came in in the

great deal of investment came in in the

great deal of investment came in in the form of two very large battery plants

form of two very large battery plants

form of two very large battery plants almost a billion dollars of capital

almost a billion dollars of capital

almost a billion dollars of capital investment went into a 48 street over

investment went into a 48 street over

investment went into a 48 street over that time frame and a lot of that scum

that time frame and a lot of that scum

that time frame and a lot of that scum where’s that going who’s doing what you

where’s that going who’s doing what you

where’s that going who’s doing what you know we didn’t see this just giant

know we didn’t see this just giant

know we didn’t see this just giant change the automotive market isn’t doing

change the automotive market isn’t doing

change the automotive market isn’t doing what we thought a lot of that is going

what we thought a lot of that is going

what we thought a lot of that is going on but we’ve already been you know

on but we’ve already been you know

on but we’ve already been you know you’ve heard the ideas you’ve heard the

you’ve heard the ideas you’ve heard the

you’ve heard the ideas you’ve heard the ideas of packed battery packs

ideas of packed battery packs

ideas of packed battery packs alternative energy you know it’s

alternative energy you know it’s

alternative energy you know it’s starting to get along in its time and

starting to get along in its time and

starting to get along in its time and and some of the things that we thought

and some of the things that we thought

and some of the things that we thought didn’t write coin through but I wanted

didn’t write coin through but I wanted

didn’t write coin through but I wanted to discuss about have you seen some of

to discuss about have you seen some of

to discuss about have you seen some of the changes if you’ve gone into your

the changes if you’ve gone into your

the changes if you’ve gone into your local hardware store you’ve might have

local hardware store you’ve might have

local hardware store you’ve might have seen something interesting more and more

seen something interesting more and more

seen something interesting more and more products are showing up without internal

products are showing up without internal

products are showing up without internal combustion engines and you can buy great

combustion engines and you can buy great

combustion engines and you can buy great working solutions from trimmers

working solutions from trimmers

working solutions from trimmers lawnmowers blowers there’s all sorts of

lawnmowers blowers there’s all sorts of

lawnmowers blowers there’s all sorts of unique items our tools are getting

unique items our tools are getting

unique items our tools are getting lighter and faster and stronger it’s

lighter and faster and stronger it’s

lighter and faster and stronger it’s happening every day but why isn’t

happening every day but why isn’t

happening every day but why isn’t happening here why aren’t we seeing

happening here why aren’t we seeing

happening here why aren’t we seeing products that we build take advantage of

products that we build take advantage of

products that we build take advantage of this amazing technology that right now

this amazing technology that right now

this amazing technology that right now Holland Michigan is 21 the bat at

Holland Michigan is 21 the bat at

Holland Michigan is 21 the bat at largest battery manufacturer in the u.s.

largest battery manufacturer in the u.s.

largest battery manufacturer in the u.s. right here well I’ve learned a few

right here well I’ve learned a few

right here well I’ve learned a few things about how people perceive

things about how people perceive

things about how people perceive technology has a big impact on how we

technology has a big impact on how we

technology has a big impact on how we utilize it and so I want to give you an

utilize it and so I want to give you an

utilize it and so I want to give you an example of some of the things that I’ve

example of some of the things that I’ve

example of some of the things that I’ve notice prevents us from figuring out how

notice prevents us from figuring out how

notice prevents us from figuring out how to use this great new tool

to use this great new tool

to use this great new tool first behind me you see a pack this is

first behind me you see a pack this is

first behind me you see a pack this is an energy pack it’s a modern style

an energy pack it’s a modern style

an energy pack it’s a modern style energy pack and most people want to

energy pack and most people want to

energy pack and most people want to think of it as a battery but it really

think of it as a battery but it really

think of it as a battery but it really isn’t a battery it’s really like an

isn’t a battery it’s really like an

isn’t a battery it’s really like an engine you’re like if you’re a technical

engine you’re like if you’re a technical

engine you’re like if you’re a technical person forgive me it’s no it’s not

person forgive me it’s no it’s not

person forgive me it’s no it’s not really like an engine but how we use it

really like an engine but how we use it

really like an engine but how we use it how we think about it the economics the

how we think about it the economics the

how we think about it the economics the investment is really on par with an

investment is really on par with an

investment is really on par with an internal combustion engine an amazing

internal combustion engine an amazing

internal combustion engine an amazing amount of investment goes into making

amount of investment goes into making

amount of investment goes into making these to make them work but most of us

these to make them work but most of us

these to make them work but most of us are thinking of it as a battery a single

are thinking of it as a battery a single

are thinking of it as a battery a single thing we have a hundred years of

thing we have a hundred years of

thing we have a hundred years of collective knowledge into how we think

collective knowledge into how we think

collective knowledge into how we think about something and now it’s changed

about something and now it’s changed

about something and now it’s changed it’s not so easy the other thing i watch

it’s not so easy the other thing i watch

it’s not so easy the other thing i watch or let me talk about the engine real

or let me talk about the engine real

or let me talk about the engine real quick from that engine perspective if

quick from that engine perspective if

quick from that engine perspective if you think about how the horse and

you think about how the horse and

you think about how the horse and carriage the engine designed to replace

carriage the engine designed to replace

carriage the engine designed to replace the horse these advanced energy battery

the horse these advanced energy battery

the horse these advanced energy battery design replace an engine and that’s

design replace an engine and that’s

design replace an engine and that’s because they will do real work I mean

because they will do real work I mean

because they will do real work I mean they’re supposed to last the life

they’re supposed to last the life

they’re supposed to last the life expectancy of your normal engine it

expectancy of your normal engine it

expectancy of your normal engine it totally changes the way you think about

totally changes the way you think about

totally changes the way you think about it from anything else we’ve used today

it from anything else we’ve used today

it from anything else we’ve used today but most people are still thinking about

but most people are still thinking about

but most people are still thinking about lead acid or traditional technology the

lead acid or traditional technology the

lead acid or traditional technology the other thing that I notice is volume when

other thing that I notice is volume when

other thing that I notice is volume when we think about wanting to go further in

we think about wanting to go further in

we think about wanting to go further in a car we know we need to be your gas

a car we know we need to be your gas

a car we know we need to be your gas tank we already think in a volume we’re

tank we already think in a volume we’re

tank we already think in a volume we’re taught that way but if we want to make

taught that way but if we want to make

taught that way but if we want to make something run longer we need more

something run longer we need more

something run longer we need more batteries but that equation doesn’t work

batteries but that equation doesn’t work

batteries but that equation doesn’t work what’s fascinating it also deals like

what’s fascinating it also deals like

what’s fascinating it also deals like economics is when we look at that black

economics is when we look at that black

economics is when we look at that black box its volume or it’s about of energy

box its volume or it’s about of energy

box its volume or it’s about of energy it can hold is dramatically different

it can hold is dramatically different

it can hold is dramatically different which changes is economy or it’s

which changes is economy or it’s

which changes is economy or it’s economics it also gives you the

economics it also gives you the

economics it also gives you the capability that you’ve previously

capability that you’ve previously

capability that you’ve previously couldn’t have with other technology

couldn’t have with other technology

couldn’t have with other technology another little tidbit of information

another little tidbit of information

another little tidbit of information I’ve learned how people look at the

I’ve learned how people look at the

I’ve learned how people look at the problem is the word now we I know you’ve

problem is the word now we I know you’ve

problem is the word now we I know you’ve all heard lithium-ion as the bad guy and

all heard lithium-ion as the bad guy and

all heard lithium-ion as the bad guy and a lot of stories lately right from

a lot of stories lately right from

a lot of stories lately right from Boeing dare craft two cell phones I

Boeing dare craft two cell phones I

Boeing dare craft two cell phones I think there’s an article I read

think there’s an article I read

think there’s an article I read yesterday about someone’s headphone

yesterday about someone’s headphone

yesterday about someone’s headphone overcharging why is that all happening

overcharging why is that all happening

overcharging why is that all happening what’s going

what’s going

what’s going on well understanding and application is

on well understanding and application is

on well understanding and application is part of solving the problem and the word

part of solving the problem and the word

part of solving the problem and the word lithium-ion is created a lot of

lithium-ion is created a lot of

lithium-ion is created a lot of confusion people when you when you when

confusion people when you when you when

confusion people when you when you when they think about the excuse me when they

they think about the excuse me when they

they think about the excuse me when they think about lithium-ion they’re thinking

think about lithium-ion they’re thinking

think about lithium-ion they’re thinking about it’s really more like fuel it

about it’s really more like fuel it

about it’s really more like fuel it wasn’t mean fuel well if I told you and

wasn’t mean fuel well if I told you and

wasn’t mean fuel well if I told you and stood here the whole time talked about

stood here the whole time talked about

stood here the whole time talked about fuel did this or the fuel caught on fire

fuel did this or the fuel caught on fire

fuel did this or the fuel caught on fire I put the wrong fuel in the car we all

I put the wrong fuel in the car we all

I put the wrong fuel in the car we all know that there’s differences in fuels

know that there’s differences in fuels

know that there’s differences in fuels but if I never describe to you why fuel

but if I never describe to you why fuel

but if I never describe to you why fuel I used you ventually asked me what was

I used you ventually asked me what was

I used you ventually asked me what was he talking about well the word

he talking about well the word

he talking about well the word lithium-ion is like using the word fuel

lithium-ion is like using the word fuel

lithium-ion is like using the word fuel the difference is between the different

the difference is between the different

the difference is between the different chemistry’s out there are as different

chemistry’s out there are as different

chemistry’s out there are as different as gasoline is to diesel fuel is to

as gasoline is to diesel fuel is to

as gasoline is to diesel fuel is to propane as to natural gas we all know

propane as to natural gas we all know

propane as to natural gas we all know not to use gasoline in our charcoal

not to use gasoline in our charcoal

not to use gasoline in our charcoal grill right we can understand that we

grill right we can understand that we

grill right we can understand that we also know that diesel and gasoline you

also know that diesel and gasoline you

also know that diesel and gasoline you may not know the difference but you

may not know the difference but you

may not know the difference but you don’t mix them well same goes with

don’t mix them well same goes with

don’t mix them well same goes with lithium ion the first one up there it’s

lithium ion the first one up there it’s

lithium ion the first one up there it’s called lithium iron phosphate it’s

called lithium iron phosphate it’s

called lithium iron phosphate it’s probably the kind that most of you has

probably the kind that most of you has

probably the kind that most of you has been familiar with if you read anything

been familiar with if you read anything

been familiar with if you read anything on lithium ion it’s the kind that you

on lithium ion it’s the kind that you

on lithium ion it’s the kind that you can get over the counter it’s a more

can get over the counter it’s a more

can get over the counter it’s a more docile technology but it’s not as much

docile technology but it’s not as much

docile technology but it’s not as much it’s not very energy dense in fact I

it’s not very energy dense in fact I

it’s not very energy dense in fact I kind of think of it like natural gas you

kind of think of it like natural gas you

kind of think of it like natural gas you know you can’t carry a lot with you but

know you can’t carry a lot with you but

know you can’t carry a lot with you but it does pretty good what he wants to do

it does pretty good what he wants to do

it does pretty good what he wants to do then you have the more advanced

then you have the more advanced

then you have the more advanced technologies what are made here in our

technologies what are made here in our

technologies what are made here in our community nickel manganese cobalt nickel

community nickel manganese cobalt nickel

community nickel manganese cobalt nickel cobalt aluminum these are three times

cobalt aluminum these are three times

cobalt aluminum these are three times more energy-dense they have different

more energy-dense they have different

more energy-dense they have different properties and they are they work

properties and they are they work

properties and they are they work differently and understanding those

differently and understanding those

differently and understanding those differences are critical if we’re going

differences are critical if we’re going

differences are critical if we’re going to utilize them and processes and

to utilize them and processes and

to utilize them and processes and technology and for our community so what

technology and for our community so what

technology and for our community so what does it mean if we understand these core

does it mean if we understand these core

does it mean if we understand these core principles what does it mean to us for a

principles what does it mean to us for a

principles what does it mean to us for a community operative for opportunity as a

community operative for opportunity as a

community operative for opportunity as a business well the market you might have

business well the market you might have

business well the market you might have seen is growing and it continues to grow

seen is growing and it continues to grow

seen is growing and it continues to grow right now the markets over 40 billion

right now the markets over 40 billion

right now the markets over 40 billion and that’s a double-digit growth rates

and that’s a double-digit growth rates

and that’s a double-digit growth rates per year that’s pretty awesome I don’t

per year that’s pretty awesome I don’t

per year that’s pretty awesome I don’t in if you look at grid storage which

in if you look at grid storage which

in if you look at grid storage which grid storage is the idea of storing

grid storage is the idea of storing

grid storage is the idea of storing electrical system you know electrical

electrical system you know electrical

electrical system you know electrical power and its different forms right

power and its different forms right

power and its different forms right lithium ions just one portion of goods

lithium ions just one portion of goods

lithium ions just one portion of goods store energy storage but with all the

store energy storage but with all the

store energy storage but with all the forms it’s almost three times that still

forms it’s almost three times that still

forms it’s almost three times that still growing a double digit capacity so

growing a double digit capacity so

growing a double digit capacity so there’s a lot of opportunity to be made

there’s a lot of opportunity to be made

there’s a lot of opportunity to be made how do we as a community using our

how do we as a community using our

how do we as a community using our technology advance on or is there even

technology advance on or is there even

technology advance on or is there even some research going on to do that well I

some research going on to do that well I

some research going on to do that well I wanted to share with you a little about

wanted to share with you a little about

wanted to share with you a little about some of the activities that is happening

some of the activities that is happening

some of the activities that is happening that will bring is bringing the unique

that will bring is bringing the unique

that will bring is bringing the unique capabilities holla michigan and the

capabilities holla michigan and the

capabilities holla michigan and the advanced energy storage and blend them

advanced energy storage and blend them

advanced energy storage and blend them together the first is some great

together the first is some great

together the first is some great research going on here at musubi which

research going on here at musubi which

research going on here at musubi which is the michigan state university

is the michigan state university

is the michigan state university Bioeconomy facility is the former Pfizer

Bioeconomy facility is the former Pfizer

Bioeconomy facility is the former Pfizer facility there’s research going on right

facility there’s research going on right

facility there’s research going on right now with advanced electrochemistry

now with advanced electrochemistry

now with advanced electrochemistry pulling from knowledge gained and

pulling from knowledge gained and

pulling from knowledge gained and traditionally developed over years of

traditionally developed over years of

traditionally developed over years of science and said hey here’s this problem

science and said hey here’s this problem

science and said hey here’s this problem with lithium-ion batteries overcharging

with lithium-ion batteries overcharging

with lithium-ion batteries overcharging well right now there’s a lot of things

well right now there’s a lot of things

well right now there’s a lot of things that have to happen to keep a battery

that have to happen to keep a battery

that have to happen to keep a battery safe using this unique capability in our

safe using this unique capability in our

safe using this unique capability in our region of understanding electrochemistry

region of understanding electrochemistry

region of understanding electrochemistry properties new materials are being

properties new materials are being

properties new materials are being developed that will go inside the cell

developed that will go inside the cell

developed that will go inside the cell that can stop them from overcharging

that can stop them from overcharging

that can stop them from overcharging without the need of external controls

without the need of external controls

without the need of external controls this could stop a lot of the fires and

this could stop a lot of the fires and

this could stop a lot of the fires and actions that you’ve seen poorly in the

actions that you’ve seen poorly in the

actions that you’ve seen poorly in the press with advanced energy storage that

press with advanced energy storage that

press with advanced energy storage that research is groundbreaking and it’s

research is groundbreaking and it’s

research is groundbreaking and it’s going on in our community another

going on in our community another

going on in our community another business that’s recently started is

business that’s recently started is

business that’s recently started is something I left Johnson Controls to

something I left Johnson Controls to

something I left Johnson Controls to work on it’s called Volta power systems

work on it’s called Volta power systems

work on it’s called Volta power systems our goal is to find new ways to bring to

our goal is to find new ways to bring to

our goal is to find new ways to bring to product to market advanced energy

product to market advanced energy

product to market advanced energy storage technology on small scale so

storage technology on small scale so

storage technology on small scale so smaller companies can have access to the

smaller companies can have access to the

smaller companies can have access to the technology currently the the investment

technology currently the the investment

technology currently the the investment is tens of millions of dollars to get

is tens of millions of dollars to get

is tens of millions of dollars to get into it and we’re finding ways to make

into it and we’re finding ways to make

into it and we’re finding ways to make standardized solutions that it’s safe

standardized solutions that it’s safe

standardized solutions that it’s safe and bring it for things that you might

and bring it for things that you might

and bring it for things that you might use from an RV or smaller type

use from an RV or smaller type

use from an RV or smaller type applications then there’s new services

applications then there’s new services

applications then there’s new services starting you might have heard a company

starting you might have heard a company

starting you might have heard a company called Midwest energy group now they

called Midwest energy group now they

called Midwest energy group now they they are they go out and support

they are they go out and support

they are they go out and support businesses to solve problems around you

businesses to solve problems around you

businesses to solve problems around you know what’s the

know what’s the

know what’s the energy-efficient Hopsin can I put solar

energy-efficient Hopsin can I put solar

energy-efficient Hopsin can I put solar and how do I augment my expenses and

and how do I augment my expenses and

and how do I augment my expenses and doing that in a way that makes a good

doing that in a way that makes a good

doing that in a way that makes a good economic footprint for a company that

economic footprint for a company that

economic footprint for a company that also now starting to include energy

also now starting to include energy

also now starting to include energy storage when does it make sense to add

storage when does it make sense to add

storage when does it make sense to add storage into the equation this is just

storage into the equation this is just

storage into the equation this is just now starting of if you look back the

now starting of if you look back the

now starting of if you look back the perspective of that horse and carriage

perspective of that horse and carriage

perspective of that horse and carriage how do we start seeing that economy

how do we start seeing that economy

how do we start seeing that economy change how do we start adding to our own

change how do we start adding to our own

change how do we start adding to our own so how do we get that next step in

so how do we get that next step in

so how do we get that next step in advanced energy storage how do we get it

advanced energy storage how do we get it

advanced energy storage how do we get it into our industry how do we start taking

into our industry how do we start taking

into our industry how do we start taking advantage of it the first is I like to

advantage of it the first is I like to

advantage of it the first is I like to think of it as learn it’s not what you

think of it as learn it’s not what you

think of it as learn it’s not what you think it’s not what you’ve been told I

think it’s not what you’ve been told I

think it’s not what you’ve been told I always see Holland Michigan is abuzz

always see Holland Michigan is abuzz

always see Holland Michigan is abuzz doers if you look at a lot of our

doers if you look at a lot of our

doers if you look at a lot of our industries its people that had an idea

industries its people that had an idea

industries its people that had an idea and they got into it started figuring it

and they got into it started figuring it

and they got into it started figuring it out and that built on that idea we can

out and that built on that idea we can

out and that built on that idea we can do it with advanced energy storage if

do it with advanced energy storage if

do it with advanced energy storage if you’re in part of those 150 companies

you’re in part of those 150 companies

you’re in part of those 150 companies and manufacturing start doing looking at

and manufacturing start doing looking at

and manufacturing start doing looking at how this new form of energy can change

how this new form of energy can change

how this new form of energy can change what you’ve been doing change that

what you’ve been doing change that

what you’ve been doing change that connection that you’ve always been with

connection that you’ve always been with

connection that you’ve always been with a cord second point is invest money is

a cord second point is invest money is

a cord second point is invest money is great but the challenge is time advanced

great but the challenge is time advanced

great but the challenge is time advanced technology something new the terms that

technology something new the terms that

technology something new the terms that I’ve just went over it’s hard to think

I’ve just went over it’s hard to think

I’ve just went over it’s hard to think about these things differently

about these things differently

about these things differently especially when you have a hundred years

especially when you have a hundred years

especially when you have a hundred years of predetermined thought telling you hey

of predetermined thought telling you hey

of predetermined thought telling you hey you know this is how it should be built

you know this is how it should be built

you know this is how it should be built but if you start to look there’s

but if you start to look there’s

but if you start to look there’s opportunity everywhere in our systems

opportunity everywhere in our systems

opportunity everywhere in our systems because we’ve created these boundaries

because we’ve created these boundaries

because we’ve created these boundaries about how power is moved where do we get

about how power is moved where do we get

about how power is moved where do we get it from what do we hook it to when you

it from what do we hook it to when you

it from what do we hook it to when you know everything from building machine to

know everything from building machine to

know everything from building machine to making a product has these traditional

making a product has these traditional

making a product has these traditional built-in requirements that now can be

built-in requirements that now can be

built-in requirements that now can be broken when I look out at halle mission

broken when I look out at halle mission

broken when I look out at halle mission in our West Michigan area our community

in our West Michigan area our community

in our West Michigan area our community of what we could do I see a lot of

of what we could do I see a lot of

of what we could do I see a lot of opportunity the idea of getting this

opportunity the idea of getting this

opportunity the idea of getting this technology into the hands of innovators

technology into the hands of innovators

technology into the hands of innovators in our region to be able to create new

in our region to be able to create new

in our region to be able to create new products I see a world of new style of

products I see a world of new style of

products I see a world of new style of machines that

machines that

machines that can do things that we’ve always been

can do things that we’ve always been

can do things that we’ve always been limited by because of that plug I see

limited by because of that plug I see

limited by because of that plug I see new types of products that don’t need to

new types of products that don’t need to

new types of products that don’t need to be plugged in that sort of purposes that

be plugged in that sort of purposes that

be plugged in that sort of purposes that you know most of us had me think of but

you know most of us had me think of but

you know most of us had me think of but everyday problems that we’ve already

everyday problems that we’ve already

everyday problems that we’ve already always have dealt with I know if we can

always have dealt with I know if we can

always have dealt with I know if we can put together or take these lessons learn

put together or take these lessons learn

put together or take these lessons learn combine the knowledge that is existing

combine the knowledge that is existing

combine the knowledge that is existing in Holland Michigan coupling that with

in Holland Michigan coupling that with

in Holland Michigan coupling that with advanced technology we can create a

advanced technology we can create a

advanced technology we can create a future and a new economy that creates

future and a new economy that creates

future and a new economy that creates truly a wats next capability so thank

truly a wats next capability so thank

truly a wats next capability so thank you very much

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