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What Were They Thinking? White Women and the 2016 Election | Charlotte Robertson | TEDxIthacaCollege


I was devastated

I was devastated the next 54% of white women had voted

the next 54% of white women had voted

the next 54% of white women had voted for a Republican candidate Donald Trump

for a Republican candidate Donald Trump

for a Republican candidate Donald Trump and the media was out to condemn them

and the media was out to condemn them

and the media was out to condemn them now the media was picking up on this gap

now the media was picking up on this gap

now the media was picking up on this gap the gap between how white women voted

the gap between how white women voted

the gap between how white women voted and how other American women voted as

and how other American women voted as

and how other American women voted as you can see black women overwhelmingly

you can see black women overwhelmingly

you can see black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton at 94% with

supported Hillary Clinton at 94% with

supported Hillary Clinton at 94% with Latino women supporting her at 69

Latino women supporting her at 69

Latino women supporting her at 69 percent compared to them white women had

percent compared to them white women had

percent compared to them white women had only voted for Hillary Clinton at 46%

only voted for Hillary Clinton at 46%

only voted for Hillary Clinton at 46% now if you haven’t figured it out yet

now if you haven’t figured it out yet

now if you haven’t figured it out yet I’m a card-carrying Democrat and as a

I’m a card-carrying Democrat and as a

I’m a card-carrying Democrat and as a liberal white woman I was confused but

liberal white woman I was confused but

liberal white woman I was confused but more than that I was curious what made

more than that I was curious what made

more than that I was curious what made these women who looked like me vote for

these women who looked like me vote for

these women who looked like me vote for a candidate who time and time again had

a candidate who time and time again had

a candidate who time and time again had been labeled a misogynist well I was

been labeled a misogynist well I was

been labeled a misogynist well I was determined to find out and as Donald

determined to find out and as Donald

determined to find out and as Donald Trump was being inaugurated into office

Trump was being inaugurated into office

Trump was being inaugurated into office in 2016 I took off on a research project

in 2016 I took off on a research project

in 2016 I took off on a research project on my own so the first thing I wanted to

on my own so the first thing I wanted to

on my own so the first thing I wanted to look at was at white womens various

look at was at white womens various

look at was at white womens various identities it was obvious to me that the

identities it was obvious to me that the

identities it was obvious to me that the country had assumed that white women

country had assumed that white women

country had assumed that white women would vote based on their gender

would vote based on their gender

would vote based on their gender identity however I hope that other

identity however I hope that other

identity however I hope that other identities might be at play I decided to

identities might be at play I decided to

identities might be at play I decided to use an in-depth interview method so

use an in-depth interview method so

use an in-depth interview method so we’ve all taken a survey where none of

we’ve all taken a survey where none of

we’ve all taken a survey where none of the actual answers match up with what we

the actual answers match up with what we

the actual answers match up with what we really think our reply would be I was

really think our reply would be I was

really think our reply would be I was hoping that this more conversational

hoping that this more conversational

hoping that this more conversational style approach would really let me get

style approach would really let me get

style approach would really let me get at why white women identified with

at why white women identified with

at why white women identified with Donald Trump if they did

Donald Trump if they did

Donald Trump if they did so I can’t different ages common they

so I can’t different ages common they

so I can’t different ages common they were all white and they had all voted

were all white and they had all voted

were all white and they had all voted for Donald Trump when I put out the call

for Donald Trump when I put out the call

for Donald Trump when I put out the call for interviews I was actually really

for interviews I was actually really

for interviews I was actually really surprised that he responded they were

surprised that he responded they were

surprised that he responded they were people from my hometown of Charlotte

people from my hometown of Charlotte

people from my hometown of Charlotte North Carolina they were relatives of my

North Carolina they were relatives of my

North Carolina they were relatives of my friends and they were people from this

friends and they were people from this

friends and they were people from this very college campus they came from a

very college campus they came from a

very college campus they came from a wide variety of occupational backgrounds

wide variety of occupational backgrounds

wide variety of occupational backgrounds they were agricultural workers and small

they were agricultural workers and small

they were agricultural workers and small business owners they were students and

business owners they were students and

business owners they were students and they were teachers I was quickly

they were teachers I was quickly

they were teachers I was quickly realizing that they were my neighbors

realizing that they were my neighbors

realizing that they were my neighbors and I’m here to tell you that they are

and I’m here to tell you that they are

and I’m here to tell you that they are yours as much with people in the US like

yours as much with people in the US like

yours as much with people in the US like to vilify people who have different

to vilify people who have different

to vilify people who have different political backgrounds than ourselves

political backgrounds than ourselves

political backgrounds than ourselves they’re still the same people that sit

they’re still the same people that sit

they’re still the same people that sit with us let’s stand with us in the

with us let’s stand with us in the

with us let’s stand with us in the grocery line so the thing that’s

grocery line so the thing that’s

grocery line so the thing that’s different with them is they have

different with them is they have

different with them is they have different lived experiences that have

different lived experiences that have

different lived experiences that have shaped their different political values

shaped their different political values

shaped their different political values today I want to talk to you about those

today I want to talk to you about those

today I want to talk to you about those political values they’ve manifested

political values they’ve manifested

political values they’ve manifested themselves in three different ways first

themselves in three different ways first

themselves in three different ways first and what political issues white women

and what political issues white women

and what political issues white women care about second and how they perceive

care about second and how they perceive

care about second and how they perceive different candidates and third and their

different candidates and third and their

different candidates and third and their partisan identity but before we can get

partisan identity but before we can get

partisan identity but before we can get into any of that I have to let you know

into any of that I have to let you know

into any of that I have to let you know something these women view themselves as

something these women view themselves as

something these women view themselves as hard workers they think of both

hard workers they think of both

hard workers they think of both themselves and their families as hard

themselves and their families as hard

themselves and their families as hard workers and this identity has really

workers and this identity has really

workers and this identity has really shaped all those political values that I

shaped all those political values that I

shaped all those political values that I just told you about

just told you about

just told you about they’ve also shaped which political

they’ve also shaped which political

they’ve also shaped which political issues white women care about so the

issues white women care about so the

issues white women care about so the women that I spoke to cared about two

women that I spoke to cared about two

women that I spoke to cared about two different things first immigration and

different things first immigration and

different things first immigration and second the American economy

no matter where women lived they thought

no matter where women lived they thought of undocumented immigrants as doing

of undocumented immigrants as doing

of undocumented immigrants as doing something criminal and wrong

something criminal and wrong

something criminal and wrong I had a retired schoolteacher in

I had a retired schoolteacher in

I had a retired schoolteacher in Maryland tell me I just feel like the

Maryland tell me I just feel like the

Maryland tell me I just feel like the laws and our country should be obeyed

laws and our country should be obeyed

laws and our country should be obeyed I’ve always done what I’m supposed to do

I’ve always done what I’m supposed to do

I’ve always done what I’m supposed to do while a single mother all the way down

while a single mother all the way down

while a single mother all the way down in Texas said coming to her country

in Texas said coming to her country

in Texas said coming to her country respectfully follow the law be like

respectfully follow the law be like

respectfully follow the law be like every other person who is living here

every other person who is living here

every other person who is living here legally does and you’re welcome and a

legally does and you’re welcome and a

legally does and you’re welcome and a real estate agent all the way in New

real estate agent all the way in New

real estate agent all the way in New York said we’re all immigrants but there

York said we’re all immigrants but there

York said we’re all immigrants but there has to be a process and people just

has to be a process and people just

has to be a process and people just can’t walk in here illegally so as you

can’t walk in here illegally so as you

can’t walk in here illegally so as you can see it doesn’t matter if they came

can see it doesn’t matter if they came

can see it doesn’t matter if they came from a border state or not they viewed

from a border state or not they viewed

from a border state or not they viewed undocumented immigrants as rule breakers

undocumented immigrants as rule breakers

undocumented immigrants as rule breakers and what do rule breakers do they take

and what do rule breakers do they take

and what do rule breakers do they take from us so cultural sociologist Acker

from us so cultural sociologist Acker

from us so cultural sociologist Acker Berg and Helpmann tell us that the

Berg and Helpmann tell us that the

Berg and Helpmann tell us that the working class made us like immigrants

working class made us like immigrants

working class made us like immigrants because they see them as competition in

because they see them as competition in

because they see them as competition in the labor market while not all of the

the labor market while not all of the

the labor market while not all of the women that I spoke to were part of the

women that I spoke to were part of the

women that I spoke to were part of the working class almost all of them thought

working class almost all of them thought

working class almost all of them thought of the American economy as a major issue

of the American economy as a major issue

of the American economy as a major issue so they really believed in this idea of

so they really believed in this idea of

so they really believed in this idea of the American dream now what that

the American dream now what that

the American dream now what that basically means is that if we just try

basically means is that if we just try

basically means is that if we just try hard enough people in this country can

hard enough people in this country can

hard enough people in this country can accomplish anything they saw this as

accomplish anything they saw this as

accomplish anything they saw this as being taken away from them a student

being taken away from them a student

being taken away from them a student down in Arizona told me I think you

down in Arizona told me I think you

down in Arizona told me I think you should work for what you want it’s not

should work for what you want it’s not

should work for what you want it’s not fair for the people who work hard and

fair for the people who work hard and

fair for the people who work hard and then get half of what they worked for

then get half of what they worked for

then get half of what they worked for taken away by people who didn’t work as

taken away by people who didn’t work as

taken away by people who didn’t work as hard so as you can see this identity of

hard so as you can see this identity of

hard so as you can see this identity of being a hard worker continues to come up

being a hard worker continues to come up

being a hard worker continues to come up again and again it continues to come

again and again it continues to come

again and again it continues to come into play with how white women perceive

into play with how white women perceive

into play with how white women perceive different candidates they saw Donald

different candidates they saw Donald

different candidates they saw Donald Trump as a hard worker he was someone

Trump as a hard worker he was someone

Trump as a hard worker he was someone who had worked his way up in the

who had worked his way up in the

who had worked his way up in the business world and his business

business world and his business

business world and his business expertise would be vital for the

expertise would be vital for the

expertise would be vital for the American economy

American economy

American economy however they thought of Hillary Clinton

however they thought of Hillary Clinton

however they thought of Hillary Clinton as the antithesis of this in fact they

as the antithesis of this in fact they

as the antithesis of this in fact they described her and what I like to call

described her and what I like to call

described her and what I like to call the three

the three

the three says sketchy shady and scheming they

says sketchy shady and scheming they

says sketchy shady and scheming they thought of her and Bill Clinton as this

thought of her and Bill Clinton as this

thought of her and Bill Clinton as this amoral political powerhouse and they

amoral political powerhouse and they

amoral political powerhouse and they thought that she would be willing to do

thought that she would be willing to do

thought that she would be willing to do anything to get to the presidency I had

anything to get to the presidency I had

anything to get to the presidency I had some women even imply that she would be

some women even imply that she would be

some women even imply that she would be willing to do something illegal I had

willing to do something illegal I had

willing to do something illegal I had one woman tell me the Clintons have been

one woman tell me the Clintons have been

one woman tell me the Clintons have been around they became very wealthy while

around they became very wealthy while

around they became very wealthy while they were in government and government

they were in government and government

they were in government and government doesn’t pay very well so time and time

doesn’t pay very well so time and time

doesn’t pay very well so time and time again these women would talk about the

again these women would talk about the

again these women would talk about the Clintons legacy of corruption but very

Clintons legacy of corruption but very

Clintons legacy of corruption but very few of them actually mentioned specific

few of them actually mentioned specific

few of them actually mentioned specific scandals I was sure that I was going to

scandals I was sure that I was going to

scandals I was sure that I was going to hear about Benghazi or the email server

hear about Benghazi or the email server

hear about Benghazi or the email server scandal however very few women actually

scandal however very few women actually

scandal however very few women actually mentioned these another area in which

mentioned these another area in which

mentioned these another area in which white women thought of the candidates

white women thought of the candidates

white women thought of the candidates diverged was around the issue of Family

diverged was around the issue of Family

diverged was around the issue of Family Values I had one woman tell me family to

Values I had one woman tell me family to

Values I had one woman tell me family to me is everything and without it I don’t

me is everything and without it I don’t

me is everything and without it I don’t know that you could have this success so

know that you could have this success so

know that you could have this success so these women saw Donald Trump is quite

these women saw Donald Trump is quite

these women saw Donald Trump is quite literally combining success with family

literally combining success with family

literally combining success with family I had a small business owner from North

I had a small business owner from North

I had a small business owner from North Carolina tell me that she liked how

Carolina tell me that she liked how

Carolina tell me that she liked how Donald Trump included his family and his

Donald Trump included his family and his

Donald Trump included his family and his business ventures as a small business

business ventures as a small business

business ventures as a small business owner she was really hoping to keep her

owner she was really hoping to keep her

owner she was really hoping to keep her own business within the family so these

own business within the family so these

own business within the family so these women really liked that Donald Trump had

women really liked that Donald Trump had

women really liked that Donald Trump had kept in touch with his children despite

kept in touch with his children despite

kept in touch with his children despite multiple divorces they really picked up

multiple divorces they really picked up

multiple divorces they really picked up on his relationship with Ivanka Trump I

on his relationship with Ivanka Trump I

on his relationship with Ivanka Trump I had a woman from New York compare and

had a woman from New York compare and

had a woman from New York compare and contrast Chelsea’s relationship with

contrast Chelsea’s relationship with

contrast Chelsea’s relationship with Hillary Clinton to Ivanka’s relationship

Hillary Clinton to Ivanka’s relationship

Hillary Clinton to Ivanka’s relationship with Donald Trump she saw Ivanka Trump

with Donald Trump she saw Ivanka Trump

with Donald Trump she saw Ivanka Trump as a self-starter as someone who had

as a self-starter as someone who had

as a self-starter as someone who had made it in the fashion industry by

made it in the fashion industry by

made it in the fashion industry by herself while she labeled Chelsea

herself while she labeled Chelsea

herself while she labeled Chelsea Clinton as riding on her mother’s

Clinton as riding on her mother’s

Clinton as riding on her mother’s coattails another area and which these

coattails another area and which these

coattails another area and which these identities of being a mother and being a

identities of being a mother and being a

identities of being a mother and being a wife continue to come into play was

wife continue to come into play was

wife continue to come into play was around the topic of Bill Clinton’s

around the topic of Bill Clinton’s

around the topic of Bill Clinton’s infidelity

infidelity

infidelity so this was brought up to me over and

so this was brought up to me over and

so this was brought up to me over and over again and women that I spoke with

over again and women that I spoke with

over again and women that I spoke with really thought that they really thought

really thought that they really thought

really thought that they really thought that Hillary Clinton had only stayed

that Hillary Clinton had only stayed

that Hillary Clinton had only stayed with Bill Clinton because of political

with Bill Clinton because of political

with Bill Clinton because of political reasons and they saw this as a complete

reasons and they saw this as a complete

reasons and they saw this as a complete power move for her they also thought

power move for her they also thought

power move for her they also thought that it made her a poor role model for

that it made her a poor role model for

that it made her a poor role model for her daughter Chelsea Clinton I had one

her daughter Chelsea Clinton I had one

her daughter Chelsea Clinton I had one woman tell me I can understand standing

woman tell me I can understand standing

woman tell me I can understand standing by your husband when he’s struggling but

by your husband when he’s struggling but

by your husband when he’s struggling but he’s slapping you in the face you’re

he’s slapping you in the face you’re

he’s slapping you in the face you’re raising a daughter and you’re showing

raising a daughter and you’re showing

raising a daughter and you’re showing your daughter the wrong image to make I

your daughter the wrong image to make I

your daughter the wrong image to make I would not have allowed my child to see

would not have allowed my child to see

would not have allowed my child to see that so as you see even though Hillary

that so as you see even though Hillary

that so as you see even though Hillary Clinton is a white woman a mother and a

Clinton is a white woman a mother and a

Clinton is a white woman a mother and a wife these women that I was speaking

wife these women that I was speaking

wife these women that I was speaking with still had trouble identifying with

with still had trouble identifying with

with still had trouble identifying with her

her

her so despite their deep dislike of Hillary

so despite their deep dislike of Hillary

so despite their deep dislike of Hillary Clinton none of the women I spoke with

Clinton none of the women I spoke with

Clinton none of the women I spoke with actually identified as part of the Farr

actually identified as part of the Farr

actually identified as part of the Farr or alt right in fact they were all over

or alt right in fact they were all over

or alt right in fact they were all over the political spectrum with many of them

the political spectrum with many of them

the political spectrum with many of them identifying as moderates despite having

identifying as moderates despite having

identifying as moderates despite having voted for the Republican Party they view

voted for the Republican Party they view

voted for the Republican Party they view them in ways that I wouldn’t have

them in ways that I wouldn’t have

them in ways that I wouldn’t have expected they saw them as judgmental and

expected they saw them as judgmental and

expected they saw them as judgmental and stodgy and old-fashioned I had one woman

stodgy and old-fashioned I had one woman

stodgy and old-fashioned I had one woman even tell me I don’t know how the tea

even tell me I don’t know how the tea

even tell me I don’t know how the tea party group hijacked the whole

party group hijacked the whole

party group hijacked the whole Republican Party I mean it just seems

Republican Party I mean it just seems

Republican Party I mean it just seems that you can’t be a moderate Republican

that you can’t be a moderate Republican

that you can’t be a moderate Republican or moderate Democrat anymore it just

or moderate Democrat anymore it just

or moderate Democrat anymore it just seems very unpopular so they really had

seems very unpopular so they really had

seems very unpopular so they really had this desire for bipartisanship they

this desire for bipartisanship they

this desire for bipartisanship they wanted to see politicians reach across

wanted to see politicians reach across

wanted to see politicians reach across the aisle and work together and someone

the aisle and work together and someone

the aisle and work together and someone who votes on the opposite side of the

who votes on the opposite side of the

who votes on the opposite side of the aisle I was actually really relieved to

aisle I was actually really relieved to

aisle I was actually really relieved to hear this it was reassuring to know that

hear this it was reassuring to know that

hear this it was reassuring to know that these white women that I was speaking to

these white women that I was speaking to

these white women that I was speaking to want it unity in this time of division

want it unity in this time of division

want it unity in this time of division so despite everything that I’ve learned

so despite everything that I’ve learned

so despite everything that I’ve learned throughout this research my biggest

throughout this research my biggest

throughout this research my biggest point is that there is a deep power and

point is that there is a deep power and

point is that there is a deep power and listening

listening

listening at the end of almost each and every one

at the end of almost each and every one

at the end of almost each and every one of my conversations the woman on the

of my conversations the woman on the

of my conversations the woman on the other end of the line would say thank

other end of the line would say thank

other end of the line would say thank you thank you for just listening they

you thank you for just listening they

you thank you for just listening they hadn’t felt comfortable talking about

hadn’t felt comfortable talking about

hadn’t felt comfortable talking about their political values in their

their political values in their

their political values in their classrooms and their offices and in

classrooms and their offices and in

classrooms and their offices and in their communities in general and instead

their communities in general and instead

their communities in general and instead of arguing with them point by point I

of arguing with them point by point I

of arguing with them point by point I had taken the time to just listen and in

had taken the time to just listen and in

had taken the time to just listen and in that time I learned about their greatest

that time I learned about their greatest

that time I learned about their greatest fears and their deepest hopes for both

fears and their deepest hopes for both

fears and their deepest hopes for both themselves and their families now don’t

themselves and their families now don’t

themselves and their families now don’t get me wrong politics is personal when I

get me wrong politics is personal when I

get me wrong politics is personal when I found out that Donald Trump had been

found out that Donald Trump had been

found out that Donald Trump had been elected into office I felt like both he

elected into office I felt like both he

elected into office I felt like both he and his supporters hated me and my

and his supporters hated me and my

and his supporters hated me and my friends though I still don’t agree with

friends though I still don’t agree with

friends though I still don’t agree with a lot of the political ideology of these

a lot of the political ideology of these

a lot of the political ideology of these women I can now better understand where

women I can now better understand where

women I can now better understand where they’re coming from

they’re coming from

they’re coming from so the MU the liberal movement really

so the MU the liberal movement really

so the MU the liberal movement really centers around this idea of sharing

centers around this idea of sharing

centers around this idea of sharing experiences and understanding identities

experiences and understanding identities

experiences and understanding identities however we don’t often offer up the

however we don’t often offer up the

however we don’t often offer up the space to our conservative neighbors

space to our conservative neighbors

space to our conservative neighbors there are days where I don’t want to

there are days where I don’t want to

there are days where I don’t want to make this space the world is divisive

make this space the world is divisive

make this space the world is divisive and there’s a lot of stuff happening in

and there’s a lot of stuff happening in

and there’s a lot of stuff happening in Washington DC that I don’t agree with

Washington DC that I don’t agree with

Washington DC that I don’t agree with but when I look back to who I was before

but when I look back to who I was before

but when I look back to who I was before this project began I realized that my

this project began I realized that my

this project began I realized that my attitude was often not productive so I

attitude was often not productive so I

attitude was often not productive so I want to leave you with this question

want to leave you with this question

want to leave you with this question tonight how do we create a new vision of

tonight how do we create a new vision of

tonight how do we create a new vision of the future if we don’t even understand

the future if we don’t even understand

the future if we don’t even understand half of America I don’t have a fix-all

half of America I don’t have a fix-all

half of America I don’t have a fix-all solution for you just listening isn’t

solution for you just listening isn’t

solution for you just listening isn’t going to solve the deep systemic issues

going to solve the deep systemic issues

going to solve the deep systemic issues that plagued this nation however it is a

that plagued this nation however it is a

that plagued this nation however it is a start and in this time of division we

start and in this time of division we

start and in this time of division we could all use a starting point to unify

could all use a starting point to unify

could all use a starting point to unify around thank you

around thank you

around thank you you

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