everybody so how many people do you think how many women do you think fought
think how many women do you think fought
think how many women do you think fought in our most recent wars in Iraq and
in our most recent wars in Iraq and
in our most recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan numbers 12 somebody said now
Afghanistan numbers 12 somebody said now
Afghanistan numbers 12 somebody said now a hundred try like 400,000 okay how many
a hundred try like 400,000 okay how many
a hundred try like 400,000 okay how many of you can name one woman who fought in
of you can name one woman who fought in
of you can name one woman who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan you see one hand
Iraq and Afghanistan you see one hand
Iraq and Afghanistan you see one hand maybe two or three lights are bright
maybe two or three lights are bright
maybe two or three lights are bright it’s surprising to me how few people
it’s surprising to me how few people
it’s surprising to me how few people know the stories of women have fought in
know the stories of women have fought in
know the stories of women have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan
Iraq and Afghanistan
Iraq and Afghanistan maybe people remember Jessica Lynch
maybe people remember Jessica Lynch
maybe people remember Jessica Lynch that’s the only one that anyone ever
that’s the only one that anyone ever
that’s the only one that anyone ever registers now let me give you a few
registers now let me give you a few
registers now let me give you a few names of male soldiers Chris Kyle no
names of male soldiers Chris Kyle no
names of male soldiers Chris Kyle no that guy America we brought the book
that guy America we brought the book
that guy America we brought the book American sniper that was made in a movie
American sniper that was made in a movie
American sniper that was made in a movie by Clint Eastwood what about marcus
by Clint Eastwood what about marcus
by Clint Eastwood what about marcus luttrell who wrote the book lone
luttrell who wrote the book lone
luttrell who wrote the book lone survivor that was also made into a
survivor that was also made into a
survivor that was also made into a hugely successful movie or beau Bergdahl
hugely successful movie or beau Bergdahl
hugely successful movie or beau Bergdahl who was featured in serial the serial
who was featured in serial the serial
who was featured in serial the serial podcast recently or say a guy named Eric
podcast recently or say a guy named Eric
podcast recently or say a guy named Eric Greitens is our governor Jason Kander
Greitens is our governor Jason Kander
Greitens is our governor Jason Kander who ran against him David Petraeus I
who ran against him David Petraeus I
who ran against him David Petraeus I could go on and on I mean you guys know
could go on and on I mean you guys know
could go on and on I mean you guys know these guys right well why do you know
these guys right well why do you know
these guys right well why do you know them and not the women who fought in
them and not the women who fought in
them and not the women who fought in Iraq one reason is that we have a
Iraq one reason is that we have a
Iraq one reason is that we have a certain myth for what a soldier’s
certain myth for what a soldier’s
certain myth for what a soldier’s supposed to be
supposed to be
supposed to be that’s in part created by Hollywood that
that’s in part created by Hollywood that
that’s in part created by Hollywood that is and I’ve defined that myth as being
is and I’ve defined that myth as being
is and I’ve defined that myth as being white male stoic and heroic that
white male stoic and heroic that
white male stoic and heroic that certainly fits Chris Kyle here’s another
certainly fits Chris Kyle here’s another
certainly fits Chris Kyle here’s another sort of definition of that myth that
sort of definition of that myth that
sort of definition of that myth that comes from a Missouri born writer Rick
comes from a Missouri born writer Rick
comes from a Missouri born writer Rick åkesson Rick åkesson wrote I had long
åkesson Rick åkesson wrote I had long
åkesson Rick åkesson wrote I had long believed that the extravagant stress of
believed that the extravagant stress of
believed that the extravagant stress of combat is a great revealer of character
combat is a great revealer of character
combat is a great revealer of character disclosing a man’s elemental traits in
disclosing a man’s elemental traits in
disclosing a man’s elemental traits in the way a prism refracts light to reveal
the way a prism refracts light to reveal
the way a prism refracts light to reveal the
the
the spectrum from book called in the company
spectrum from book called in the company
spectrum from book called in the company of soldiers that was mostly about David
of soldiers that was mostly about David
of soldiers that was mostly about David Petraeus there’s some interesting things
Petraeus there’s some interesting things
Petraeus there’s some interesting things about this quote first of all I was a
about this quote first of all I was a
about this quote first of all I was a reporter in Iraq and it was my
reporter in Iraq and it was my
reporter in Iraq and it was my experience that combat was not a great
experience that combat was not a great
experience that combat was not a great revealer of character it was a destroyer
revealer of character it was a destroyer
revealer of character it was a destroyer of character it did not reveal your
of character it did not reveal your
of character it did not reveal your inner prison was the thing that you
inner prison was the thing that you
inner prison was the thing that you wanted to avoid if you possibly could
wanted to avoid if you possibly could
wanted to avoid if you possibly could secondly it’s a man’s elemental traits
secondly it’s a man’s elemental traits
secondly it’s a man’s elemental traits one of the reasons that you don’t hear
one of the reasons that you don’t hear
one of the reasons that you don’t hear stories about women from Hollywood is
stories about women from Hollywood is
stories about women from Hollywood is because they don’t fit into this myth
because they don’t fit into this myth
because they don’t fit into this myth they don’t come to join the military
they don’t come to join the military
they don’t come to join the military because they want to become a man in a
because they want to become a man in a
because they want to become a man in a certain sense but also because if
certain sense but also because if
certain sense but also because if Hollywood were to tell the stories of
Hollywood were to tell the stories of
Hollywood were to tell the stories of women who were in the military they
women who were in the military they
women who were in the military they would also have to tell the story of how
would also have to tell the story of how
would also have to tell the story of how men like Chris Kyle treat women who were
men like Chris Kyle treat women who were
men like Chris Kyle treat women who were in the military particularly during the
in the military particularly during the
in the military particularly during the 2003 to 2015 let’s say and I’m gonna
2003 to 2015 let’s say and I’m gonna
2003 to 2015 let’s say and I’m gonna tell you some stories about that based
tell you some stories about that based
tell you some stories about that based on the women who I interviewed for my
on the women who I interviewed for my
on the women who I interviewed for my novel too good lieutenant which has a
novel too good lieutenant which has a
novel too good lieutenant which has a lead female character Jen McDonough I
lead female character Jen McDonough I
lead female character Jen McDonough I met in Iraq in 2006 Jen was a captain of
met in Iraq in 2006 Jen was a captain of
met in Iraq in 2006 Jen was a captain of a support company she her job was to go
a support company she her job was to go
a support company she her job was to go outside the wire and retrieve vehicles
outside the wire and retrieve vehicles
outside the wire and retrieve vehicles that have been hit by IEDs or had had a
that have been hit by IEDs or had had a
that have been hit by IEDs or had had a you know driven into a canal or gotten
you know driven into a canal or gotten
you know driven into a canal or gotten broken right but going outside the wire
broken right but going outside the wire
broken right but going outside the wire I mean outside this enclosure of these
I mean outside this enclosure of these
I mean outside this enclosure of these very large bases that we had into the
very large bases that we had into the
very large bases that we had into the Iraqi countryside which was in 2006 very
Iraqi countryside which was in 2006 very
Iraqi countryside which was in 2006 very dangerous
dangerous
dangerous there were IDs all over the roads these
there were IDs all over the roads these
there were IDs all over the roads these could go off whenever you when you
could go off whenever you when you
could go off whenever you when you whenever you drove by the time that I
whenever you drove by the time that I
whenever you drove by the time that I was embedded with lost 20 soldiers over
was embedded with lost 20 soldiers over
was embedded with lost 20 soldiers over a period of four months so Jen would go
a period of four months so Jen would go
a period of four months so Jen would go out driving this thing called a Hercules
out driving this thing called a Hercules
out driving this thing called a Hercules which is a vehicle that I think is
which is a vehicle that I think is
which is a vehicle that I think is really cool and it’s a size of a tank
really cool and it’s a size of a tank
really cool and it’s a size of a tank and it could tow an m1 tank back to back
and it could tow an m1 tank back to back
and it could tow an m1 tank back to back to base she told me a story one time
to base she told me a story one time
to base she told me a story one time about going out to a muddy field it does
about going out to a muddy field it does
about going out to a muddy field it does rain in Iraq it’s not just desert
rain in Iraq it’s not just desert
rain in Iraq it’s not just desert trying to retrieve a thing called a
trying to retrieve a thing called a
trying to retrieve a thing called a buffalo it’s a big big vehicle like a
buffalo it’s a big big vehicle like a
buffalo it’s a big big vehicle like a phone truck and she hooked up the cable
phone truck and she hooked up the cable
phone truck and she hooked up the cable that you can see and to the back axle
that you can see and to the back axle
that you can see and to the back axle the Buffalo started towing the axle came
the Buffalo started towing the axle came
the Buffalo started towing the axle came off
off
off then her Hercules got stuck in the mud
then her Hercules got stuck in the mud
then her Hercules got stuck in the mud of this field she called in another
of this field she called in another
of this field she called in another Hercules tried to tried to tow it out
Hercules tried to tried to tow it out
Hercules tried to tried to tow it out again that Hercules got stuck she called
again that Hercules got stuck she called
again that Hercules got stuck she called in a quick reaction force of the
in a quick reaction force of the
in a quick reaction force of the infantry guys the really tough guys they
infantry guys the really tough guys they
infantry guys the really tough guys they came in they were gonna rescue her they
came in they were gonna rescue her they
came in they were gonna rescue her they got stuck she her soldiers were trolling
got stuck she her soldiers were trolling
got stuck she her soldiers were trolling the area two of them stepped on a
the area two of them stepped on a
the area two of them stepped on a 500-pound bomb they were blown straight
500-pound bomb they were blown straight
500-pound bomb they were blown straight up in the air miraculously survived she
up in the air miraculously survived she
up in the air miraculously survived she met have act him out one of her Humvees
met have act him out one of her Humvees
met have act him out one of her Humvees was hit by an iid flipped over badly
was hit by an iid flipped over badly
was hit by an iid flipped over badly injured the gunner who was standing in a
injured the gunner who was standing in a
injured the gunner who was standing in a on top of it
on top of it
on top of it he had to be medevacked out she called
he had to be medevacked out she called
he had to be medevacked out she called in a floating bridge there was like this
in a floating bridge there was like this
in a floating bridge there was like this muddy field then the canal then a paved
muddy field then the canal then a paved
muddy field then the canal then a paved road and he had to get all the vehicles
road and he had to get all the vehicles
road and he had to get all the vehicles over to the Pedro’s who needed a bridge
over to the Pedro’s who needed a bridge
over to the Pedro’s who needed a bridge called Ana bridge the guy the guy who
called Ana bridge the guy the guy who
called Ana bridge the guy the guy who brought the bridge drove into the canal
brought the bridge drove into the canal
brought the bridge drove into the canal they had to get another bridge it was a
they had to get another bridge it was a
they had to get another bridge it was a five day mission okay she was under fire
five day mission okay she was under fire
five day mission okay she was under fire for most of it it turned out this field
for most of it it turned out this field
for most of it it turned out this field was heavily mined she got all of these
was heavily mined she got all of these
was heavily mined she got all of these things out of this field didn’t lose a
things out of this field didn’t lose a
things out of this field didn’t lose a single soldier after telling me this
single soldier after telling me this
single soldier after telling me this story which takes her like an hour to
story which takes her like an hour to
story which takes her like an hour to tell so we didn’t have time for the
tell so we didn’t have time for the
tell so we didn’t have time for the whole thing
whole thing
whole thing she said to me the hardest thing about
she said to me the hardest thing about
she said to me the hardest thing about being in Iraq is that I don’t have
being in Iraq is that I don’t have
being in Iraq is that I don’t have anyone to talk to what does she mean by
anyone to talk to what does she mean by
anyone to talk to what does she mean by that what she meant was there were no
that what she meant was there were no
that what she meant was there were no women in her battalion which was an
women in her battalion which was an
women in her battalion which was an infantry battalion she’d been attached
infantry battalion she’d been attached
infantry battalion she’d been attached to it there were no women in a in a
to it there were no women in a in a
to it there were no women in a in a equal or higher authority position to
equal or higher authority position to
equal or higher authority position to her she couldn’t talk to people express
her she couldn’t talk to people express
her she couldn’t talk to people express doubt or concern or fear that she could
doubt or concern or fear that she could
doubt or concern or fear that she could do the right thing to anyone below her
do the right thing to anyone below her
do the right thing to anyone below her and she had no one above her that she
and she had no one above her that she
and she had no one above her that she could talk to and the reason she didn’t
could talk to and the reason she didn’t
could talk to and the reason she didn’t feel like she could talk to the male
feel like she could talk to the male
feel like she could talk to the male officers was it she felt like she went
officers was it she felt like she went
officers was it she felt like she went in and expressed a doubt or fear or
in and expressed a doubt or fear or
in and expressed a doubt or fear or concern or wanted reassurance in any way
concern or wanted reassurance in any way
concern or wanted reassurance in any way they would just say that’s just a woman
they would just say that’s just a woman
they would just say that’s just a woman woman can’t do this job they see her as
woman can’t do this job they see her as
woman can’t do this job they see her as a category not a person another example
a category not a person another example
a category not a person another example would be Angela fiddle who oh there’s
would be Angela fiddle who oh there’s
would be Angela fiddle who oh there’s the inside of the Hercules by the way
the inside of the Hercules by the way
the inside of the Hercules by the way which is
which is
which is so very cool Angela fiddle who was
so very cool Angela fiddle who was
so very cool Angela fiddle who was graduate of UMKC and she was a former
graduate of UMKC and she was a former
graduate of UMKC and she was a former sergeant in Iraq and here’s how she
sergeant in Iraq and here’s how she
sergeant in Iraq and here’s how she describes her greeting when she went to
describes her greeting when she went to
describes her greeting when she went to Fort Hood for the first time Fort Hood
Fort Hood for the first time Fort Hood
Fort Hood for the first time Fort Hood there was a saying that used to hear a
there was a saying that used to hear a
there was a saying that used to hear a lot there’s only three kinds of women in
lot there’s only three kinds of women in
lot there’s only three kinds of women in the army
the army
the army [Music]
[Music]
[Music] bitches and lesbians
bitches and lesbians
bitches and lesbians I’ve been asked which one I want that’s
I’ve been asked which one I want that’s
I’ve been asked which one I want that’s not an easy thing to have happen to you
not an easy thing to have happen to you
not an easy thing to have happen to you when you walk into your workplace
when you walk into your workplace
when you walk into your workplace environment another example of this
environment another example of this
environment another example of this would be Stacy Moore who was a major
would be Stacy Moore who was a major
would be Stacy Moore who was a major when I met her but she was a lieutenant
when I met her but she was a lieutenant
when I met her but she was a lieutenant in Iraq you ran convoys she had a
in Iraq you ran convoys she had a
in Iraq you ran convoys she had a platoon sergeant who wouldn’t fit caught
platoon sergeant who wouldn’t fit caught
platoon sergeant who wouldn’t fit caught carry out her order so platoon sergeants
carry out her order so platoon sergeants
carry out her order so platoon sergeants very important person for a lieutenant
very important person for a lieutenant
very important person for a lieutenant he’s the person who’s the conduit
he’s the person who’s the conduit
he’s the person who’s the conduit between the lieutenant and the enlisted
between the lieutenant and the enlisted
between the lieutenant and the enlisted soldiers in that platoon tun sergeant
soldiers in that platoon tun sergeant
soldiers in that platoon tun sergeant has to carry out through the tenants
has to carry out through the tenants
has to carry out through the tenants orders but he didn’t and he also would
orders but he didn’t and he also would
orders but he didn’t and he also would sort of follow her around looming over
sort of follow her around looming over
sort of follow her around looming over her in the office like a certain
her in the office like a certain
her in the office like a certain presidential candidate did during the
presidential candidate did during the
presidential candidate did during the debates with a female candidate while
debates with a female candidate while
debates with a female candidate while back she couldn’t get him to stop this
back she couldn’t get him to stop this
back she couldn’t get him to stop this so what she did was wrestle him pin him
so what she did was wrestle him pin him
so what she did was wrestle him pin him get his head between her knees and start
get his head between her knees and start
get his head between her knees and start pulling on his ears until he said that
pulling on his ears until he said that
pulling on his ears until he said that he would do what she said or what she
he would do what she said or what she
he would do what she said or what she wanted that is not a normal workplace
wanted that is not a normal workplace
wanted that is not a normal workplace environment okay so you know and it
environment okay so you know and it
environment okay so you know and it doesn’t fit into the Hollywood narrative
doesn’t fit into the Hollywood narrative
doesn’t fit into the Hollywood narrative myth of the stoic heroic male soldier
myth of the stoic heroic male soldier
myth of the stoic heroic male soldier right that is why we don’t see these
right that is why we don’t see these
right that is why we don’t see these movies but it also means that there are
movies but it also means that there are
movies but it also means that there are things that we can learn from women in
things that we can learn from women in
things that we can learn from women in the military they have a special place
the military they have a special place
the military they have a special place in a special role they are outsiders to
in a special role they are outsiders to
in a special role they are outsiders to that structure and because they’re
that structure and because they’re
that structure and because they’re outsiders to that male-dominated
outsiders to that male-dominated
outsiders to that male-dominated structure they have to learn about it
structure they have to learn about it
structure they have to learn about it better than the men right they have to
better than the men right they have to
better than the men right they have to learn how to fit in they have to learn
learn how to fit in they have to learn
learn how to fit in they have to learn all the rules all the regulations and
all the rules all the regulations and
all the rules all the regulations and they also know unlike male soldiers that
they also know unlike male soldiers that
they also know unlike male soldiers that are
are
are not necessarily but most male soldiers
not necessarily but most male soldiers
not necessarily but most male soldiers that the the structure can be wrong
that the the structure can be wrong
that the the structure can be wrong because it treats them wrong right and
because it treats them wrong right and
because it treats them wrong right and that gives them a better chance to teach
that gives them a better chance to teach
that gives them a better chance to teach their soldiers how to do right it also
their soldiers how to do right it also
their soldiers how to do right it also gives them empathy for other people who
gives them empathy for other people who
gives them empathy for other people who are outsiders to that structure most
are outsiders to that structure most
are outsiders to that structure most specifically Iraqis okay now how does
specifically Iraqis okay now how does
specifically Iraqis okay now how does this apply to civilian life well there
this apply to civilian life well there
this apply to civilian life well there was a study done by the women’s
was a study done by the women’s
was a study done by the women’s foundation based in Kansas City with a
foundation based in Kansas City with a
foundation based in Kansas City with a couple professors from kayuu and they
couple professors from kayuu and they
couple professors from kayuu and they studied over a hundred Special Forces
studied over a hundred Special Forces
studied over a hundred Special Forces troops men and women talking to them
troops men and women talking to them
troops men and women talking to them about what it was like to integrate
about what it was like to integrate
about what it was like to integrate women into a male-dominated
women into a male-dominated
women into a male-dominated organizational structure like that their
organizational structure like that their
organizational structure like that their findings were very similar to my own I
findings were very similar to my own I
findings were very similar to my own I mean there was one woman who said my
mean there was one woman who said my
mean there was one woman who said my first you know deployment was terrible I
first you know deployment was terrible I
first you know deployment was terrible I was treated like an inhuman I’d be
was treated like an inhuman I’d be
was treated like an inhuman I’d be sitting there you know eating dinner
sitting there you know eating dinner
sitting there you know eating dinner with my food right in front of me and
with my food right in front of me and
with my food right in front of me and somebody would knock it to the ground
somebody would knock it to the ground
somebody would knock it to the ground and say pick it up bitch if you’re the
and say pick it up bitch if you’re the
and say pick it up bitch if you’re the only woman in that environment there’s
only woman in that environment there’s
only woman in that environment there’s that’s a difficult situation to deal
that’s a difficult situation to deal
that’s a difficult situation to deal with that kind of overt aggression I
with that kind of overt aggression I
with that kind of overt aggression I don’t think I’m trying to give these
don’t think I’m trying to give these
don’t think I’m trying to give these examples I don’t think you understand
examples I don’t think you understand
examples I don’t think you understand how overt that aggression was one of the
how overt that aggression was one of the
how overt that aggression was one of the study had several interesting
study had several interesting
study had several interesting conclusions one was that women when they
conclusions one was that women when they
conclusions one was that women when they got army training could do all the jobs
got army training could do all the jobs
got army training could do all the jobs that they needed to do and the training
that they needed to do and the training
that they needed to do and the training gave them confidence right I can do this
gave them confidence right I can do this
gave them confidence right I can do this I know I can do this
I know I can do this
I know I can do this I know I can run the Hercules I know I
I know I can run the Hercules I know I
I know I can run the Hercules I know I can go out on missions and retrieve
can go out on missions and retrieve
can go out on missions and retrieve broken vehicles from outside the wire
broken vehicles from outside the wire
broken vehicles from outside the wire they also discovered however that
they also discovered however that
they also discovered however that confidence in and of itself and training
confidence in and of itself and training
confidence in and of itself and training was not enough to overcome structural
was not enough to overcome structural
was not enough to overcome structural obstacles that your organization put in
obstacles that your organization put in
obstacles that your organization put in your way what are examples of those
your way what are examples of those
your way what are examples of those structural obstacles well for instance
structural obstacles well for instance
structural obstacles well for instance one of the ways you get promoted in the
one of the ways you get promoted in the
one of the ways you get promoted in the Army is to have combat service okay when
Army is to have combat service okay when
Army is to have combat service okay when I spoke to Gen McDonough in 2006 what
I spoke to Gen McDonough in 2006 what
I spoke to Gen McDonough in 2006 what she was doing was not defined as combat
she was doing was not defined as combat
she was doing was not defined as combat every job that every woman had in the
every job that every woman had in the
every job that every woman had in the Army at that time even though many were
Army at that time even though many were
Army at that time even though many were killed and injured was not defined as
killed and injured was not defined as
killed and injured was not defined as combat combat roles were only infantry
combat combat roles were only infantry
combat combat roles were only infantry and combat engineers support troops
and combat engineers support troops
and combat engineers support troops didn’t have
didn’t have
didn’t have quote combat rules but that’s only a
quote combat rules but that’s only a
quote combat rules but that’s only a definition right because support troops
definition right because support troops
definition right because support troops given the story I just told you we’re
given the story I just told you we’re
given the story I just told you we’re engaged in combat okay that’s a
engaged in combat okay that’s a
engaged in combat okay that’s a structural impediment to advancement
structural impediment to advancement
structural impediment to advancement labels my talk is an example of this
labels my talk is an example of this
labels my talk is an example of this problem what can we learn from female
problem what can we learn from female
problem what can we learn from female soldiers right one of the study
soldiers right one of the study
soldiers right one of the study participants said it’s always female
participants said it’s always female
participants said it’s always female something it’s never the medic or the
something it’s never the medic or the
something it’s never the medic or the civilian affairs officer it’s always the
civilian affairs officer it’s always the
civilian affairs officer it’s always the female medic or the female civilian
female medic or the female civilian
female medic or the female civilian affairs officer how many times do we in
affairs officer how many times do we in
affairs officer how many times do we in our daily lives in America right now in
our daily lives in America right now in
our daily lives in America right now in civilian society do the same thing how
civilian society do the same thing how
civilian society do the same thing how many times do we say hey look at that
many times do we say hey look at that
many times do we say hey look at that female cop or that female surgeon or
female cop or that female surgeon or
female cop or that female surgeon or female newscaster or female presidential
female newscaster or female presidential
female newscaster or female presidential candidate right by putting that modifier
candidate right by putting that modifier
candidate right by putting that modifier there we emphasize the fact that the
there we emphasize the fact that the
there we emphasize the fact that the structure that that person is in is a
structure that that person is in is a
structure that that person is in is a part of is gendered away from them right
part of is gendered away from them right
part of is gendered away from them right it’s for a different gender than them
it’s for a different gender than them
it’s for a different gender than them also those kinds of stereotypes lead to
also those kinds of stereotypes lead to
also those kinds of stereotypes lead to differences in the way that jobs get
differences in the way that jobs get
differences in the way that jobs get assigned for instance Angela fiddle wood
assigned for instance Angela fiddle wood
assigned for instance Angela fiddle wood was trained to do all kinds of stuff
was trained to do all kinds of stuff
was trained to do all kinds of stuff that was typically male job oriented
that was typically male job oriented
that was typically male job oriented like you know mechanical stuff unloading
like you know mechanical stuff unloading
like you know mechanical stuff unloading heavy stuff whatever she when she ever
heavy stuff whatever she when she ever
heavy stuff whatever she when she ever she would volunteer for a job that was
she would volunteer for a job that was
she would volunteer for a job that was male that would be given instead
male that would be given instead
male that would be given instead somebody she’ll be passed over to be
somebody she’ll be passed over to be
somebody she’ll be passed over to be given to a guy it would be thought to be
given to a guy it would be thought to be
given to a guy it would be thought to be able to do a better job even if she was
able to do a better job even if she was
able to do a better job even if she was trained for the job even if she was
trained for the job even if she was
trained for the job even if she was better than the guy they gave it to or
better than the guy they gave it to or
better than the guy they gave it to or even higher ranking that kind of
even higher ranking that kind of
even higher ranking that kind of stereotyping exists all the time in the
stereotyping exists all the time in the
stereotyping exists all the time in the army and it exists in civilian life as
army and it exists in civilian life as
army and it exists in civilian life as well right
well right
well right the final thing that’s important to
the final thing that’s important to
the final thing that’s important to remember is that that the study found
remember is that that the study found
remember is that that the study found was that the women like Jen McDonough
was that the women like Jen McDonough
was that the women like Jen McDonough Stacy Moore whose picture you can see an
Stacy Moore whose picture you can see an
Stacy Moore whose picture you can see an Angela fiddle instead of blaming or
Angela fiddle instead of blaming or
Angela fiddle instead of blaming or understanding that that their work
understanding that that their work
understanding that that their work problems came from structural issues
problems came from structural issues
problems came from structural issues with the organization they were and they
with the organization they were and they
with the organization they were and they tended to internalize that and say it’s
tended to internalize that and say it’s
tended to internalize that and say it’s my fault I didn’t work hard enough I
my fault I didn’t work hard enough I
my fault I didn’t work hard enough I wasn’t good enough I didn’t try hard
wasn’t good enough I didn’t try hard
wasn’t good enough I didn’t try hard enough
enough
enough right what we need to do is turn our
right what we need to do is turn our
right what we need to do is turn our gaze from the individual whose
gaze from the individual whose
gaze from the individual whose being disadvantaged by the structure
being disadvantaged by the structure
being disadvantaged by the structure that they’re in to the structure itself
that they’re in to the structure itself
that they’re in to the structure itself okay how do we do that I would say we do
okay how do we do that I would say we do
okay how do we do that I would say we do it through narrative I’m biased because
it through narrative I’m biased because
it through narrative I’m biased because I’m a person who makes narratives but
I’m a person who makes narratives but
I’m a person who makes narratives but almost all the women that I spoke with
almost all the women that I spoke with
almost all the women that I spoke with not almost all all of the women that I
not almost all all of the women that I
not almost all all of the women that I spoke with who were in the military when
spoke with who were in the military when
spoke with who were in the military when I was interviewing people for the good
I was interviewing people for the good
I was interviewing people for the good lieutenant said we want stories about us
lieutenant said we want stories about us
lieutenant said we want stories about us why doesn’t anybody make a movie about
why doesn’t anybody make a movie about
why doesn’t anybody make a movie about us
us
us why doesn’t anybody write books about us
why doesn’t anybody write books about us
why doesn’t anybody write books about us how come nobody knows about us we have a
how come nobody knows about us we have a
how come nobody knows about us we have a very special story that we want people
very special story that we want people
very special story that we want people to know about the reason that they want
to know about the reason that they want
to know about the reason that they want that story out there in part is they
that story out there in part is they
that story out there in part is they want to be represented like anybody else
want to be represented like anybody else
want to be represented like anybody else does but because the larger public when
does but because the larger public when
does but because the larger public when they experience those narratives have
they experience those narratives have
they experience those narratives have empathy for the kinds of problems that
empathy for the kinds of problems that
empathy for the kinds of problems that I’m talking about right and this kind of
I’m talking about right and this kind of
I’m talking about right and this kind of empathy is universal the individual
empathy is universal the individual
empathy is universal the individual who’s in a structure that disadvantages
who’s in a structure that disadvantages
who’s in a structure that disadvantages them isn’t just something that happens
them isn’t just something that happens
them isn’t just something that happens in the military it happens all across
in the military it happens all across
in the military it happens all across our country in the world right and those
our country in the world right and those
our country in the world right and those narratives teach us how to escape that
narratives teach us how to escape that
narratives teach us how to escape that and secondly the the studies suggested
and secondly the the studies suggested
and secondly the the studies suggested that women who were in an organization
that women who were in an organization
that women who were in an organization like that need to talk to each other
like that need to talk to each other
like that need to talk to each other right so when they conducted these
right so when they conducted these
right so when they conducted these interviews Oh female soldier would say
interviews Oh female soldier would say
interviews Oh female soldier would say hey this happened to me another won’t
hey this happened to me another won’t
hey this happened to me another won’t say oh that happened to me two and a
say oh that happened to me two and a
say oh that happened to me two and a third would say yeah I had that happen
third would say yeah I had that happen
third would say yeah I had that happen right and then they would realize though
right and then they would realize though
right and then they would realize though it wasn’t their fault this problem it
it wasn’t their fault this problem it
it wasn’t their fault this problem it was a problem that was common and part
was a problem that was common and part
was a problem that was common and part of their structure okay
of their structure okay
of their structure okay the good news is that these women who
the good news is that these women who
the good news is that these women who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2003
fought in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2003
fought in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2003 and on have changed the military and if
and on have changed the military and if
and on have changed the military and if they can change the military then any
they can change the military then any
they can change the military then any organization can be changed okay women
organization can be changed okay women
organization can be changed okay women are allowed in combat roles now as of
are allowed in combat roles now as of
are allowed in combat roles now as of December 2015 that’s because of the way
December 2015 that’s because of the way
December 2015 that’s because of the way these women performed and fought in the
these women performed and fought in the
these women performed and fought in the field during the years before that Jen
field during the years before that Jen
field during the years before that Jen McDonough is now a lieutenant colonel
McDonough is now a lieutenant colonel
McDonough is now a lieutenant colonel that means she’s a battalion commander
that means she’s a battalion commander
that means she’s a battalion commander that means that she will be there for
that means that she will be there for
that means that she will be there for some young female lieutenant to talk to
some young female lieutenant to talk to
some young female lieutenant to talk to in the future Stacy Moore his that was
in the future Stacy Moore his that was
in the future Stacy Moore his that was rose to the rank of major and is now at
rose to the rank of major and is now at
rose to the rank of major and is now at the RAND Corporation
Angella fiddle got her degree from UMKC
Angella fiddle got her degree from UMKC got a law degree from kayuu and is now a
got a law degree from kayuu and is now a
got a law degree from kayuu and is now a practicing lawyer these women are going
practicing lawyer these women are going
practicing lawyer these women are going to change the way that we think about
to change the way that we think about
to change the way that we think about the military and they’re also going to
the military and they’re also going to
the military and they’re also going to be leaders in the military in business
be leaders in the military in business
be leaders in the military in business and in politics in the future and
and in politics in the future and
and in politics in the future and because of their experience as outsiders
because of their experience as outsiders
because of their experience as outsiders inside a structure they’re gonna have
inside a structure they’re gonna have
inside a structure they’re gonna have more empathy for people who are in that
more empathy for people who are in that
more empathy for people who are in that same position another good example would
same position another good example would
same position another good example would be Tammy Duckworth who lost both of her
be Tammy Duckworth who lost both of her
be Tammy Duckworth who lost both of her legs in the helicopter crash in Iraq and
legs in the helicopter crash in Iraq and
legs in the helicopter crash in Iraq and is now just recently was elected to the
is now just recently was elected to the
is now just recently was elected to the Senate in Illinois you should look her
Senate in Illinois you should look her
Senate in Illinois you should look her up I hope that you will take time to
up I hope that you will take time to
up I hope that you will take time to learn about the experiences of these
learn about the experiences of these
learn about the experiences of these women you’ll seek out their narratives
women you’ll seek out their narratives
women you’ll seek out their narratives maybe you’ll even call Hollywood and ask
maybe you’ll even call Hollywood and ask
maybe you’ll even call Hollywood and ask them to make a movie about them one of
them to make a movie about them one of
them to make a movie about them one of these days if this video works I am now
these days if this video works I am now
these days if this video works I am now going to let you hear from Stacy Moore
going to let you hear from Stacy Moore
going to let you hear from Stacy Moore and give her the last word it’s not
and give her the last word it’s not
and give her the last word it’s not necessary for us to be able to interact
necessary for us to be able to interact
necessary for us to be able to interact with females and female civilians I
with females and female civilians I
with females and female civilians I think it’s important for us to show
think it’s important for us to show
think it’s important for us to show cultures who are perhaps a less
cultures who are perhaps a less
cultures who are perhaps a less accepting of women in leadership roles
accepting of women in leadership roles
accepting of women in leadership roles or accepting of women participating in
or accepting of women participating in
or accepting of women participating in civil society to show them that women
civil society to show them that women
civil society to show them that women are able to do these things it’s a way
are able to do these things it’s a way
are able to do these things it’s a way for us to kind of exercise and soft
for us to kind of exercise and soft
for us to kind of exercise and soft diplomatic powers and show the people
diplomatic powers and show the people
diplomatic powers and show the people that were working with that our nation
that were working with that our nation
that were working with that our nation is strong because we use all of the
is strong because we use all of the
is strong because we use all of the talents of all of our people thank you
talents of all of our people thank you
talents of all of our people thank you very much
very much
very much [Applause]
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