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We can control climate, but should we? The ethics of geoengineering | David Schurman | TEDxBrownU


to tell you the truth I’m scared scared

to tell you the truth I’m scared scared about what’s happening to our planet

about what’s happening to our planet

about what’s happening to our planet 2016 was recently named the hottest year

2016 was recently named the hottest year

2016 was recently named the hottest year on record making it the third

on record making it the third

on record making it the third consecutive year to set a temperature

consecutive year to set a temperature

consecutive year to set a temperature record global warming is more of a

record global warming is more of a

record global warming is more of a problem than it’s ever been before the

problem than it’s ever been before the

problem than it’s ever been before the more hottest years on record we have the

more hottest years on record we have the

more hottest years on record we have the more will be threatened like things by

more will be threatened like things by

more will be threatened like things by things like rising sea levels and

things like rising sea levels and

things like rising sea levels and extreme weather events but I’m sure

extreme weather events but I’m sure

extreme weather events but I’m sure you’ve heard all that before that’s old

you’ve heard all that before that’s old

you’ve heard all that before that’s old news but as some new news we are taking

news but as some new news we are taking

news but as some new news we are taking a step in the right direction last year

a step in the right direction last year

a step in the right direction last year in Paris 195 nations agreed to cut their

in Paris 195 nations agreed to cut their

in Paris 195 nations agreed to cut their carbon emissions showing that world

carbon emissions showing that world

carbon emissions showing that world leaders really do recognize the dangers

leaders really do recognize the dangers

leaders really do recognize the dangers associated with global warming and I

associated with global warming and I

associated with global warming and I think it’s great that we’re taking

think it’s great that we’re taking

think it’s great that we’re taking collective action but there is a problem

collective action but there is a problem

collective action but there is a problem earlier this year the United States

earlier this year the United States

earlier this year the United States government indicated that they want to

government indicated that they want to

government indicated that they want to withdraw from the Paris agreement now

withdraw from the Paris agreement now

withdraw from the Paris agreement now the United States is the world’s second

the United States is the world’s second

the United States is the world’s second largest greenhouse gas emitter every

largest greenhouse gas emitter every

largest greenhouse gas emitter every year we release around 6.6 billion

year we release around 6.6 billion

year we release around 6.6 billion metric tons of co2 equivalents into the

metric tons of co2 equivalents into the

metric tons of co2 equivalents into the air that’s 18 times as much as the

air that’s 18 times as much as the

air that’s 18 times as much as the weight of corn we produce every year we

weight of corn we produce every year we

weight of corn we produce every year we produce a lot of corn I know you all

produce a lot of corn I know you all

produce a lot of corn I know you all know that and so continuing with these

know that and so continuing with these

know that and so continuing with these astonishing emissions rates will have

astonishing emissions rates will have

astonishing emissions rates will have long-lasting and perhaps irreversible

long-lasting and perhaps irreversible

long-lasting and perhaps irreversible consequences so the question becomes

consequences so the question becomes

consequences so the question becomes we’re forced to ask ourselves what if we

we’re forced to ask ourselves what if we

we’re forced to ask ourselves what if we do get to a point where global warming

do get to a point where global warming

do get to a point where global warming is getting out of control with the

is getting out of control with the

is getting out of control with the recent climate change denial in inaction

recent climate change denial in inaction

recent climate change denial in inaction in the US government now may be the time

in the US government now may be the time

in the US government now may be the time to address the science and morality

to address the science and morality

to address the science and morality behind new solutions to global warming

behind new solutions to global warming

behind new solutions to global warming and for the past couple years I’ve been

and for the past couple years I’ve been

and for the past couple years I’ve been studying one of these solution ideas

studying one of these solution ideas

studying one of these solution ideas it’s something called geoengineering

it’s something called geoengineering

it’s something called geoengineering which sounds complicated but it’s really

which sounds complicated but it’s really

which sounds complicated but it’s really just an umbrella term for things and

just an umbrella term for things and

just an umbrella term for things and methods to on a large scale cool the

methods to on a large scale cool the

methods to on a large scale cool the climate as a response to global warming

climate as a response to global warming

climate as a response to global warming now there are multiple ways you could go

now there are multiple ways you could go

now there are multiple ways you could go about doing this large-scale cooling

about doing this large-scale cooling

about doing this large-scale cooling but the one that I focused on is an idea

but the one that I focused on is an idea

but the one that I focused on is an idea called marine cloud brightening so to

called marine cloud brightening so to

called marine cloud brightening so to explain marine cloud brightening I’m

explain marine cloud brightening I’m

explain marine cloud brightening I’m gonna give a quick crash course on

gonna give a quick crash course on

gonna give a quick crash course on clouds who out there is seen a cloud

clouds who out there is seen a cloud

clouds who out there is seen a cloud before yeah yeah I expected that I mean

before yeah yeah I expected that I mean

before yeah yeah I expected that I mean everyone knows what a cloud is right but

everyone knows what a cloud is right but

everyone knows what a cloud is right but actually what what the heck are clouds

actually what what the heck are clouds

actually what what the heck are clouds well they’re really just collections of

well they’re really just collections of

well they’re really just collections of many tiny water droplets and sometimes

many tiny water droplets and sometimes

many tiny water droplets and sometimes ice crystals and when sunlight hits

ice crystals and when sunlight hits

ice crystals and when sunlight hits these water droplets they let some of it

these water droplets they let some of it

these water droplets they let some of it through but they also reflect some back

through but they also reflect some back

through but they also reflect some back up into space and the clouds act kind of

up into space and the clouds act kind of

up into space and the clouds act kind of like big soggy mirrors and that’s why

like big soggy mirrors and that’s why

like big soggy mirrors and that’s why stormy clouds for example look so dark

stormy clouds for example look so dark

stormy clouds for example look so dark from below they’re so thick that they’re

from below they’re so thick that they’re

from below they’re so thick that they’re reflecting away almost all the sunlight

reflecting away almost all the sunlight

reflecting away almost all the sunlight that hits them as you probably know from

that hits them as you probably know from

that hits them as you probably know from walking here today in good old

walking here today in good old

walking here today in good old Providence when clouds block sunlight it

Providence when clouds block sunlight it

Providence when clouds block sunlight it can get cold so what if you could make

can get cold so what if you could make

can get cold so what if you could make clouds more reflective well then the

clouds more reflective well then the

clouds more reflective well then the Earth’s surface would cool down even

Earth’s surface would cool down even

Earth’s surface would cool down even more and that’s exactly the goal behind

more and that’s exactly the goal behind

more and that’s exactly the goal behind myrin cloud brightening you make the

myrin cloud brightening you make the

myrin cloud brightening you make the clouds over the oceans more reflective

clouds over the oceans more reflective

clouds over the oceans more reflective which would help to lower the planets

which would help to lower the planets

which would help to lower the planets temperature so how do you make clouds

temperature so how do you make clouds

temperature so how do you make clouds more reflective well you do that by

more reflective well you do that by

more reflective well you do that by increasing the number of those droplets

increasing the number of those droplets

increasing the number of those droplets in the cloud in the proposed way of

in the cloud in the proposed way of

in the cloud in the proposed way of doing that would be to take these

doing that would be to take these

doing that would be to take these funny-looking vessels which are actually

funny-looking vessels which are actually

funny-looking vessels which are actually quite amazing feats of Engineering out

quite amazing feats of Engineering out

quite amazing feats of Engineering out into the ocean where they’d spray a fine

into the ocean where they’d spray a fine

into the ocean where they’d spray a fine mist of seawater into the air as this

mist of seawater into the air as this

mist of seawater into the air as this mist rises it would come into contact

mist rises it would come into contact

mist rises it would come into contact and mix with a type of low-level cloud

and mix with a type of low-level cloud

and mix with a type of low-level cloud that covers 20% of the Earth’s oceans

that covers 20% of the Earth’s oceans

that covers 20% of the Earth’s oceans called marine stratocumulus and so when

called marine stratocumulus and so when

called marine stratocumulus and so when the salt crystals that were in this

the salt crystals that were in this

the salt crystals that were in this salty seawater when they come into

salty seawater when they come into

salty seawater when they come into contact with these clouds they become

contact with these clouds they become

contact with these clouds they become what we call cloud condensation nuclei

what we call cloud condensation nuclei

what we call cloud condensation nuclei they actually help water condense into

they actually help water condense into

they actually help water condense into more droplets these more droplets are

more droplets these more droplets are

more droplets these more droplets are better at reflecting sunlight making the

better at reflecting sunlight making the

better at reflecting sunlight making the cloud quote-unquote brighter there you

cloud quote-unquote brighter there you

cloud quote-unquote brighter there you have it marine cloud brightening making

have it marine cloud brightening making

have it marine cloud brightening making clouds over the ocean more

clouds over the ocean more

clouds over the ocean more collected and the interesting thing is

collected and the interesting thing is

collected and the interesting thing is that modeling has actually shown that if

that modeling has actually shown that if

that modeling has actually shown that if you can brighten enough of these clouds

you can brighten enough of these clouds

you can brighten enough of these clouds which you can with a network

which you can with a network

which you can with a network theoretically of of those vessels and

theoretically of of those vessels and

theoretically of of those vessels and for a reasonable price you could

for a reasonable price you could

for a reasonable price you could completely counteract the warming that

completely counteract the warming that

completely counteract the warming that would be caused by doubling today’s

would be caused by doubling today’s

would be caused by doubling today’s levels of co2 now

levels of co2 now

levels of co2 now I’ve just given you a lot to chew on is

I’ve just given you a lot to chew on is

I’ve just given you a lot to chew on is is everyone still awake

is everyone still awake

is everyone still awake let’s take a step away from the cloud

let’s take a step away from the cloud

let’s take a step away from the cloud physics for a bit

physics for a bit

physics for a bit basically I’m telling you that there’s a

basically I’m telling you that there’s a

basically I’m telling you that there’s a way to hack the planet to lessen the

way to hack the planet to lessen the

way to hack the planet to lessen the effects of global warming now some of

effects of global warming now some of

effects of global warming now some of you out there probably like that’s an

you out there probably like that’s an

you out there probably like that’s an interesting idea but I wouldn’t be

interesting idea but I wouldn’t be

interesting idea but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of you were like mmm

surprised if a lot of you were like mmm

surprised if a lot of you were like mmm this guy’s crazy

this guy’s crazy

this guy’s crazy filming machines to control the climate

filming machines to control the climate

filming machines to control the climate sounds like a really really bad idea you

sounds like a really really bad idea you

sounds like a really really bad idea you know I’ve seen the the YouTube comments

know I’ve seen the the YouTube comments

know I’ve seen the the YouTube comments on the other Ted geoengineering videos

on the other Ted geoengineering videos

on the other Ted geoengineering videos and they’re really not pretty but you

and they’re really not pretty but you

and they’re really not pretty but you know I I do get it I mean geoengineering

know I I do get it I mean geoengineering

know I I do get it I mean geoengineering seems like a counterintuitive thing to

seems like a counterintuitive thing to

seems like a counterintuitive thing to be suggesting why on earth would we want

be suggesting why on earth would we want

be suggesting why on earth would we want to meddle more with the climate

to meddle more with the climate

to meddle more with the climate we’re obviously really bad at doing that

we’re obviously really bad at doing that

we’re obviously really bad at doing that isn’t that what got us into this mess in

isn’t that what got us into this mess in

isn’t that what got us into this mess in the first place but let me be clear I’m

the first place but let me be clear I’m

the first place but let me be clear I’m not saying we should go out right now

not saying we should go out right now

not saying we should go out right now and dump a bunch of salt water into the

and dump a bunch of salt water into the

and dump a bunch of salt water into the air for one thing we need to do a lot

air for one thing we need to do a lot

air for one thing we need to do a lot more work to assess what kind of

more work to assess what kind of

more work to assess what kind of consequences that might have but right

consequences that might have but right

consequences that might have but right now I’d like to focus less on the

now I’d like to focus less on the

now I’d like to focus less on the specifics of those physical consequences

specifics of those physical consequences

specifics of those physical consequences and more on whether we as humans have

and more on whether we as humans have

and more on whether we as humans have the moral right to intentionally modify

the moral right to intentionally modify

the moral right to intentionally modify the Earth’s climate the man who invented

the Earth’s climate the man who invented

the Earth’s climate the man who invented the idea of marine cloud brightening his

the idea of marine cloud brightening his

the idea of marine cloud brightening his name is dr. John Latham he used to be my

name is dr. John Latham he used to be my

name is dr. John Latham he used to be my research supervisor and he once told me

research supervisor and he once told me

research supervisor and he once told me that with this whole geoengineering

that with this whole geoengineering

that with this whole geoengineering thing we’re essentially playing God and

thing we’re essentially playing God and

thing we’re essentially playing God and that’s really not something to take

that’s really not something to take

that’s really not something to take lightly I feel like the phrase playing

lightly I feel like the phrase playing

lightly I feel like the phrase playing God gets thrown around a lot nowadays in

God gets thrown around a lot nowadays in

God gets thrown around a lot nowadays in science but people don’t ever really

science but people don’t ever really

science but people don’t ever really stop to think about what that entails

stop to think about what that entails

stop to think about what that entails you know as humans we have the ability

you know as humans we have the ability

you know as humans we have the ability to modify something as large as complex

to modify something as large as complex

to modify something as large as complex as the Earth’s climate

as the Earth’s climate

as the Earth’s climate if it’s global warming already we’re

if it’s global warming already we’re

if it’s global warming already we’re starting to see unprecedented changes in

starting to see unprecedented changes in

starting to see unprecedented changes in weather and climate everywhere not just

weather and climate everywhere not just

weather and climate everywhere not just limited to a specific area with

limited to a specific area with

limited to a specific area with geoengineering we’re talking about

geoengineering we’re talking about

geoengineering we’re talking about making these kinds the scale of changes

making these kinds the scale of changes

making these kinds the scale of changes intentionally so it sort of seems like

intentionally so it sort of seems like

intentionally so it sort of seems like we’ve come to the point where our

we’ve come to the point where our

we’ve come to the point where our actions might not just be human and

actions might not just be human and

actions might not just be human and scale anymore

scale anymore

scale anymore they may might be somewhere closer to

they may might be somewhere closer to

they may might be somewhere closer to God like and then the question becomes

God like and then the question becomes

God like and then the question becomes how do we use this power we’re here

how do we use this power we’re here

how do we use this power we’re here today to talk about breaking barriers so

today to talk about breaking barriers so

today to talk about breaking barriers so how do we break the barrier do we break

how do we break the barrier do we break

how do we break the barrier do we break the barrier between acting like mere

the barrier between acting like mere

the barrier between acting like mere mortals and acting like gods and I’ve

mortals and acting like gods and I’ve

mortals and acting like gods and I’ve struggled a lot with this question you

struggled a lot with this question you

struggled a lot with this question you know at the beginning I mentioned that

know at the beginning I mentioned that

know at the beginning I mentioned that the idea of global warming has always

the idea of global warming has always

the idea of global warming has always scared me but in the middle of high

scared me but in the middle of high

scared me but in the middle of high school when I became introduced to this

school when I became introduced to this

school when I became introduced to this idea of geoengineering started working

idea of geoengineering started working

idea of geoengineering started working with dr. Latham my friend Nick out there

with dr. Latham my friend Nick out there

with dr. Latham my friend Nick out there I was like wow you know this actually

I was like wow you know this actually

I was like wow you know this actually might be a solvable problem you know we

might be a solvable problem you know we

might be a solvable problem you know we can fix this but the more I’ve looked at

can fix this but the more I’ve looked at

can fix this but the more I’ve looked at the sheer numbers of how much carbon

the sheer numbers of how much carbon

the sheer numbers of how much carbon were emitting and the research that’s

were emitting and the research that’s

were emitting and the research that’s out there the less sure I’ve become this

out there the less sure I’ve become this

out there the less sure I’ve become this is something we want to put ourselves in

is something we want to put ourselves in

is something we want to put ourselves in the position of having to do so I don’t

the position of having to do so I don’t

the position of having to do so I don’t claim to have the answer but to help you

claim to have the answer but to help you

claim to have the answer but to help you think about it I’ll present two

think about it I’ll present two

think about it I’ll present two arguments in favor of geoengineering and

arguments in favor of geoengineering and

arguments in favor of geoengineering and one against it

one against it

one against it the first justification for

the first justification for

the first justification for geoengineering looks something like this

geoengineering looks something like this

geoengineering looks something like this we should geoengineers so we can

we should geoengineers so we can

we should geoengineers so we can optimize the climate for human activity

optimize the climate for human activity

optimize the climate for human activity now I’m an engineering student so in my

now I’m an engineering student so in my

now I’m an engineering student so in my limited experience I’ve found that the

limited experience I’ve found that the

limited experience I’ve found that the point of engineering is designing or

point of engineering is designing or

point of engineering is designing or improving something for human benefit

improving something for human benefit

improving something for human benefit and so with this climate engineering

and so with this climate engineering

and so with this climate engineering thing we can cool the planet sure but

thing we can cool the planet sure but

thing we can cool the planet sure but like why not increase rainfall to help

like why not increase rainfall to help

like why not increase rainfall to help grow our crops or make certain regions

grow our crops or make certain regions

grow our crops or make certain regions more temperate and comfortable to live

more temperate and comfortable to live

more temperate and comfortable to live in but while it might be tempting to

in but while it might be tempting to

in but while it might be tempting to turn the entire world into palm springs

turn the entire world into palm springs

turn the entire world into palm springs we need to keep in mind that if we

we need to keep in mind that if we

we need to keep in mind that if we approach geoengineering with this

approach geoengineering with this

approach geoengineering with this mindset we’re implying that the earth is

mindset we’re implying that the earth is

mindset we’re implying that the earth is just another thing that

just another thing that

just another thing that humans have the right to dominate and

humans have the right to dominate and

humans have the right to dominate and while we may act like gods we must

while we may act like gods we must

while we may act like gods we must remember that our power is bounded by

remember that our power is bounded by

remember that our power is bounded by our limitations our arrogance and the

our limitations our arrogance and the

our limitations our arrogance and the gaps in our understanding among other

gaps in our understanding among other

gaps in our understanding among other things so as a response to the last

things so as a response to the last

things so as a response to the last argument here’s a compelling reason not

argument here’s a compelling reason not

argument here’s a compelling reason not to Geoengineer we should not Geoengineer

to Geoengineer we should not Geoengineer

to Geoengineer we should not Geoengineer because nature is complicated it’s

because nature is complicated it’s

because nature is complicated it’s powerful and we’ve messed with it enough

powerful and we’ve messed with it enough

powerful and we’ve messed with it enough in the first place attempting

in the first place attempting

in the first place attempting geoengineering isn’t worth dealing with

geoengineering isn’t worth dealing with

geoengineering isn’t worth dealing with the repercussions it would cause so real

the repercussions it would cause so real

the repercussions it would cause so real quick if we we take a look at our track

quick if we we take a look at our track

quick if we we take a look at our track record of modifying the climate let’s

record of modifying the climate let’s

record of modifying the climate let’s see we’ve caused global warming and

see we’ve caused global warming and

see we’ve caused global warming and that’s it I know that was technically

that’s it I know that was technically

that’s it I know that was technically unintentional but it just goes to show

unintentional but it just goes to show

unintentional but it just goes to show how bad we could be at predicting the

how bad we could be at predicting the

how bad we could be at predicting the consequences of our actions and

consequences of our actions and

consequences of our actions and truthfully with geoengineering we don’t

truthfully with geoengineering we don’t

truthfully with geoengineering we don’t yet know enough about it to actually go

yet know enough about it to actually go

yet know enough about it to actually go out and try it but then there’s the

out and try it but then there’s the

out and try it but then there’s the problem of politics so say one day we do

problem of politics so say one day we do

problem of politics so say one day we do decide to go out and try geoengineering

decide to go out and try geoengineering

decide to go out and try geoengineering well then who would be responsible for

well then who would be responsible for

well then who would be responsible for actually doing it you know the changes

actually doing it you know the changes

actually doing it you know the changes brought on by geoengineering would

brought on by geoengineering would

brought on by geoengineering would affect literally the entire world and we

affect literally the entire world and we

affect literally the entire world and we don’t have a governing body or an

don’t have a governing body or an

don’t have a governing body or an organization that represents the entire

organization that represents the entire

organization that represents the entire world’s interests a common problem that

world’s interests a common problem that

world’s interests a common problem that comes up when talking about this stuff

comes up when talking about this stuff

comes up when talking about this stuff is who sets the thermostat what if one

is who sets the thermostat what if one

is who sets the thermostat what if one country wants the temperature here and

country wants the temperature here and

country wants the temperature here and another one sits somewhere else finally

another one sits somewhere else finally

another one sits somewhere else finally the last argument for geoengineering

the last argument for geoengineering

the last argument for geoengineering sort of combines the previous two okay

sort of combines the previous two okay

sort of combines the previous two okay okay so I get that we shouldn’t be

okay so I get that we shouldn’t be

okay so I get that we shouldn’t be meddling with nature because it’s

meddling with nature because it’s

meddling with nature because it’s probably smarter than we are

probably smarter than we are

probably smarter than we are and we shouldn’t be taking up the mantle

and we shouldn’t be taking up the mantle

and we shouldn’t be taking up the mantle of God but don’t we have the moral

of God but don’t we have the moral

of God but don’t we have the moral obligation to protect and fix the

obligation to protect and fix the

obligation to protect and fix the problems we’ve created with global

problems we’ve created with global

problems we’ve created with global warming and this argument keeps in mind

warming and this argument keeps in mind

warming and this argument keeps in mind that geoengineering does have

that geoengineering does have

that geoengineering does have limitations you know it might even be

limitations you know it might even be

limitations you know it might even be the lesser of two evils something we’d

the lesser of two evils something we’d

the lesser of two evils something we’d only want to do if absolutely necessary

only want to do if absolutely necessary

only want to do if absolutely necessary but it also keeps in mind that is humans

but it also keeps in mind that is humans

but it also keeps in mind that is humans we have a moral responsibility to

we have a moral responsibility to

we have a moral responsibility to preserve the property

preserve the property

preserve the property the rights the general well-being of our

the rights the general well-being of our

the rights the general well-being of our species as a friend of mine once put it

species as a friend of mine once put it

species as a friend of mine once put it what property is more common than air

what property is more common than air

what property is more common than air and what right more fundamental than

and what right more fundamental than

and what right more fundamental than breathing free we have the moral

breathing free we have the moral

breathing free we have the moral obligation to preserve our environment

obligation to preserve our environment

obligation to preserve our environment our earth even if it means dealing with

our earth even if it means dealing with

our earth even if it means dealing with the consequences of geoengineering all

the consequences of geoengineering all

the consequences of geoengineering all right so what are these arguments saying

right so what are these arguments saying

right so what are these arguments saying what do we want well we want a climate

what do we want well we want a climate

what do we want well we want a climate that is habitable and conducive to human

that is habitable and conducive to human

that is habitable and conducive to human activity we don’t want to meddle with

activity we don’t want to meddle with

activity we don’t want to meddle with the climate more than we already have

the climate more than we already have

the climate more than we already have but we want to create a future we need

but we want to create a future we need

but we want to create a future we need to create a future for the well-being of

to create a future for the well-being of

to create a future for the well-being of humans and therefore of the earth we

humans and therefore of the earth we

humans and therefore of the earth we call home is secure if we take a look at

call home is secure if we take a look at

call home is secure if we take a look at these things that we want the solution

these things that we want the solution

these things that we want the solution starts to become clearer we need to do

starts to become clearer we need to do

starts to become clearer we need to do what we set out to do with the Paris

what we set out to do with the Paris

what we set out to do with the Paris agreement we need to slow down our

agreement we need to slow down our

agreement we need to slow down our emissions and mitigate our output of

emissions and mitigate our output of

emissions and mitigate our output of carbon think about it developing and

carbon think about it developing and

carbon think about it developing and implementing renewable energy technology

implementing renewable energy technology

implementing renewable energy technology will help spur the advancement of

will help spur the advancement of

will help spur the advancement of industry you know it’ll grow our

industry you know it’ll grow our

industry you know it’ll grow our economies give back to our societies but

economies give back to our societies but

economies give back to our societies but it will also help us work toward a more

it will also help us work toward a more

it will also help us work toward a more habitable planet both for us and all the

habitable planet both for us and all the

habitable planet both for us and all the living things that share it but you know

living things that share it but you know

living things that share it but you know where where does that leave us I mean we

where where does that leave us I mean we

where where does that leave us I mean we obviously have trouble following

obviously have trouble following

obviously have trouble following agreements like Paris and that’s what’s

agreements like Paris and that’s what’s

agreements like Paris and that’s what’s so scary and maybe I have even scared

so scary and maybe I have even scared

so scary and maybe I have even scared you a little bit today but there is

you a little bit today but there is

you a little bit today but there is still reason to have hope because we

still reason to have hope because we

still reason to have hope because we might not yet be at that point of

might not yet be at that point of

might not yet be at that point of no-return that point where we might meet

no-return that point where we might meet

no-return that point where we might meet the Geoengineer just to survive

the Geoengineer just to survive

the Geoengineer just to survive and there are things everyone in this

and there are things everyone in this

and there are things everyone in this room can do to help turn off the lights

room can do to help turn off the lights

room can do to help turn off the lights or at least buy a better bulb vote with

or at least buy a better bulb vote with

or at least buy a better bulb vote with your dollar plant a tree and most

your dollar plant a tree and most

your dollar plant a tree and most importantly get out there and shout

importantly get out there and shout

importantly get out there and shout encourage the people around you to take

encourage the people around you to take

encourage the people around you to take action as well I’m not kidding these

action as well I’m not kidding these

action as well I’m not kidding these things really do add up I’d like to

things really do add up I’d like to

things really do add up I’d like to leave you with a quote by Henry David

leave you with a quote by Henry David

leave you with a quote by Henry David Thoreau he says

Thoreau he says

Thoreau he says I love nature partly because she is not

I love nature partly because she is not

I love nature partly because she is not man or to retreat from him non of his

man or to retreat from him non of his

man or to retreat from him non of his institutions control or pervade her in

institutions control or pervade her in

institutions control or pervade her in her midst I can be glad with an entire

her midst I can be glad with an entire

her midst I can be glad with an entire gladness he is constraint

gladness he is constraint

gladness he is constraint she is freedom to me he makes me wish

she is freedom to me he makes me wish

she is freedom to me he makes me wish for another world

for another world

for another world she makes me content with this let’s

she makes me content with this let’s

she makes me content with this let’s preserve this nature this earth but stay

preserve this nature this earth but stay

preserve this nature this earth but stay on the path we’ve headed done with the

on the path we’ve headed done with the

on the path we’ve headed done with the Paris agreement and not deviate back to

Paris agreement and not deviate back to

Paris agreement and not deviate back to our old dependencies on non-renewable

our old dependencies on non-renewable

our old dependencies on non-renewable resources and I really do have

resources and I really do have

resources and I really do have confidence that together we can avoid

confidence that together we can avoid

confidence that together we can avoid creating a world where geoengineering is

creating a world where geoengineering is

creating a world where geoengineering is our only course of action thank you

our only course of action thank you

our only course of action thank you [Applause]

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