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Vrede maken doe je met de vijand | Peggy Vissers | TEDxVeghel


good afternoon

you may wonder how one

girl from veghel

at the united nations in New York

it ends up

some of you may know me as

that very little girl that everyone’s the

ears from the head chatted so keeps bowl

talking or that teen with that job

at the gas station in echo or as it

girl next door who liked to go on vacation and

the trips without final destination it

most liked that trip of the destination

is still my favorite trip I have

I made a sense of my work

after a short stop and is especially rice

through to Argentina and then to

new york to thailand and then to new

york and I do not know where the future is

will still bring

but I do know that I feel at home

I’m never here in london

lose and it is thanks to that safe

home base

that I feel at home worldwide

I have never been known for one

patience that my parents can confirm

it is a condition for it

functioning in an official

organization

I am not really diplomatic anyway

I stand before you as a diplomat working

in the political department of the

Dutch mission to the United

nations

I am a diplomat because I am not at peace

with war and diplomacy

deals with negotiations

communication and about the representation of

interests and diplomacy only works if

you are in contact with the people for whom

it’s alright

maybe it looks a bit far from their bed

but for me it has work at the

United Nations

also a link with brabant

a lot is said about the

United Nations

especially when things go wrong sounds hard

criticism from around the world

Maybe you also think if you have the newspaper

reads world peace, why, where then

but we must not forget that to

two world wars and shortly after the cold

war that it was true that it was

sense of international solidarity

completely disappeared there was admittedly

no third world war but there were

but wars in the third world

and those wars that usually affects us

nothing was tasty far from

so we did not suffer from it

since niner’s life is the feeling of being satisfied

of solidarity back again

inland and abroad

inextricably connected

that we know here in Brabant as none

other

for the territory of brabant is finite

not in the Netherlands

After all, we live in northern Brabant

but the south of Brabant is simply

in Belgium

that we can not do the outside world

exclude that we also see one

a lot of other things

think of the refugee crisis at the

mh17 fly gram or a terrorist

attacks

they are problems that you do not have in you

one can solve without

international cooperation is that

not

so if people ask me you believe in it

you believe the vm in the united nations

do you believe in the united nations as

people ask me do you believe in the un

I say it is not a question of faith

it is a tough business

weighing interests for a country like

The Netherlands

and if we were to lift the un today

then we should be back tomorrow

and I can explain that in one

long story with a lot of numbers a boring

abbreviations but I prefer to do it

otherwise by means of a comparison

you could be the united nations

compare with a beautiful historical

apartment building with the association of

owners of a beautiful historical

apartment building

the association of owners has the vvd

193 members in the flat live neatly neat

residents quiet residents who are neat

but are also worn

nuisance causes and there is a voucher

between the neighbors about noise and

lying around dirty and there is fighting

between the neighbors about the exact separation

between the gardens

and the neighbors we go with each other on the

fist and the tensions run high

and there are rumors that at six high

there is domestic violence and the

victims who flee to three high

and the local residents who are talking about it

what is going on inside

all off and the neighbors go with it

interfere

how do you think in that flat there I want

really do not live but also now live in that

flat in that world of 193 countries in the

world that is also characterized by

climate challenge

the war through poverty

terrorist attacks all

phenomena that all of us can do

also touch us here in brabant and

happy is that vvd

you drag yourself to the every month

meetings to

sighing and supportive but you will

because it is nice that he is there

and that the house rules are who you are together

makes and applies to everyone

and that also maintains together

and it will never be ideal rules

will always be violated but it

is nice that they are there it is not

easy to agree with 193 parties

to be about complex problems though

it is the only way

if that vvd speaks about peace and war

then not all countries can be equal

join in

then it is only fifteen residents

who participate in the so-called safety

and five of those residents have the

in the construction of the flat in 1945 the

penthouse apartments got where they

live permanently and they also have it

veto rights with which they are unilateral

can block decisions and the

is sometimes said

they can be the one-sided

block decisions and we call that

the aspect of the skewed relationships

sommar more equal than others some

are more equal than others

it is the harsh reality, but we have to

to participate for the time being

the brush is said to be the current one

generation conflicts

more inland countries than between

it simply says more about countries

domestic violence than a neighbor’s quarrels

but there is no conflict in the world

which has had no playing over effect

if the neighbor the crane of the

leaving the bath open then it comes

water automatically through the ceiling at the

downstairs neighbors

you feel unrest in one country

eventually also in the other country

i’m busy with van in new york

domestic violence case with

spillover effect

the civil war in Syria

the number of deaths is already being estimated

more than 400,000 13 million people

dependent on livestock and food aid and

medicines

in addition, there are six million people who

home and hearth to have flight that on

have searched for security and

rattling at the doors of the neighbors or

further from home

that war in syria that takes more

than 6 years and the international

community that has failed

I work in New York for more than three

The crisis is going to be a year and I am too

part of that failing

world community and that is difficult because

work on peace and security

a slow and frustrating process and

that impatient girl is out of that

still in my so I think that is very

difficult

and the Netherlands is a small country and we

try to do everything possible

all kinds of ways to contribute to it

ending the war but it will be you

not surprising that that is not easy

job

let’s be realistic also the geopolitical

giants in this world have none

solution to the conflict

but we can not sit still

can not do anything we need something

do that is also in the interest of

the Netherlands and in such a conflict it is

important that you are the warring parties

together black not only brings the

like minded

but also the dissenters

parties who are at odds with such a conflict

each other

because you make peace with the

enemy not with your friends

a concrete example of what I do in new

york did with a colleague

we organized a meeting where we

invited a group of syrian women

a very diverse group

maybe you wonder why

women because women like no other

know what the tool is of conflicts

they are sometimes shown more than

men to prevent conflicts or them

to solve

they have been around for generations

advocates for peace

both in the home atmosphere and in the

broader society they are indispensable

proved when hitting with

instead of raising walls

women often tend to

to be focused on the coming

generations there what men at times

war might grip more focused

are on the conflict on the fight that on

that moment women must be

indispensable in maintaining

a social order and that they

not really much else here

brabant

I think of my own mother who and

night course organized for the

women in the neighborhood who

volunteer for charity

there is a sense of community and that

syrian women who have the same

community spirit but that is still there

more important because the community

torn by war

that’s why we invite free syrian women

we actually wanted a place

create where women in safety their

view parts

and that were opposing opinions

yet it feels very much for me

to also invite women who

incumbent dictator support and mothers of

heavily armed rebels that we have some

as terrorists stamp

I felt like I was the devil in the hall

invited to join

but those women who are moderate women

supporting the Dutch government

were prepared with those other women

to go into conversation and it became one

huge emotionally charged meeting

because it is not easy at all

remain unmoved by the story of

a mother one of them for our insaf

and insaf had lost her son at one

bomb attack at the university where he

aerospace studied and she sat there

my invitation

on stage next to her enemies

women who support the dictator

the dictator who put that bomb on that

university had thrown that son

had killed

and some of those women who denied it

Anyway that the dictator bombs

thrown at hospitals and schools

yes then you have to swallow

Then you think or you see

fortunately also that those women are very strong

are very good for themselves

come up and I could only make it difficult

then they are in themselves

everyone had forgiven for her own

personal loss because they are not

otherwise

thinking about the future of the syrian

children who are still alive

that wish to live in peace that was

greater than what those women divided and

it amazes me that they are talking about it

many things could get in that inch

women were all against it

starvation as a weapon of war against the

rape of girls as a war

tactics

they were all in favor of the

registration of prisoners

so everyone had at least with

loved ones and they also recognized

all that the bad economic

situation has ensured the

radicalization of their own children

the only difference is that he is for that

the children on different sides

fight the conflict

these women could agree on it

conditions for peace

this heroic something not so successful

into the official peace process

Geneva

these heroic ladies who are fighting for

democracy and peace

something here in the Netherlands here one

brabant is so self-evident and that

sense of humanity that it is

Once made difficult in New York at the

dilute un to contain the tears

because you literally face it

becomes with the suffering in the world

what drives the un the un who is there and

for the people and the Un Charter begins

with the words

who the people we the people and that

feeling that you should help others

I have also been at home from a very early age

and I know it from that

little bit who can not share is also possible

do not multiply

the situation in Syria remains natural

a huge dark situation but off and on

You see a dark spot and

this women’s meeting was one

bright spot for me

I realized that big problems

ask for big solutions but that you

that can only reach step by step

by small solutions the women

individuals as in I abolish

I also realized that we are not so much

should speak about the Syrians

but more to speak seriously

if we want peace, then that of the van

to be for everyone

and that is not a matter of course

you have the people on stage who can

and want to tell but not that stage

have no seat in that

security does not enter into a penthouse

apartment building

but that does have a lot of solution

because they are direct

stakeholders and that is not

self-evident because in my field

it is often the world leaders and the

diplomats that name is a countries more

to speak then the people for whom

it goes and I make myself there too

is innocent and that is not good because

it is not good for the

credibility and not good for the

authenticity

because we can not do anything from the outside

solution to the conflict in Syria

impose

we can help the Syrians, but the

solution will eventually come from them

must come myself I think the

syrian women

the reconciliation in syria can get on its way

help them become the backbone of that

can be and the united nations think

happy about that and

created the first women’s advisory group

in the history of the un around it

peace process in Geneva

this woman here is this syrian women

example a small example of mine

work in new york at the un

and I’ve been whole for the past three years

I learned a lot , for example

learned that it is very easy to

with someone with whom it thoroughly disagrees

are to criticize it with the

point out and condemn from

the sideline but it is much more difficult

to talk to your opponent

to go

it is hard to be courageous but also

useful

without you something about your principles

to put aside or that you committed

crimes should be forgotten

I also learned that it is very

important to the dignity of the

people who are concerned about it

to lose

the international community that cares

a lot of humanitarian aid and that well

was important in the Netherlands

but now and again we knock ourselves that we are

on the chest

but if you speak to people about who

it will then be all of you

tell that the permanent depends

are not humanitarian aid either

way of living

is and people who flee war

they are entitled to protection

what stands in the un

refugee treaty

in my experience these people are more

peace the seekers then asylum seekers

but we’re getting through lately

threats

robbery we become anxious of the

threat around us and the world is one

scary place

the world is a scary place but fear is

a bad counselor

and it is important that we face that threat

on where to estimate and a good one

give appropriate response but not

panic or overreact

it is important that a bit

modesty have the will the

complexity of the world problems

understand without us therefore

becoming polarized because what we see as

what we see more and more often is that people

want to withdraw

closing that world

but can not afford it

is not an option

an American journalist is about that

you have targets debate neighborhood

I will come and visit you if you have one

not visiting bad neighborhood then he comes

to you and visit you and I think

that the choice between stability

export or import instability

not a difficult choice and I see it

as a task for myself to be good

react free of fear and with the

dignity of the fellowmen in it

back of the head

I’m still not always patient

and still not always that

political but with the same openness

which at the gas station in it

I was now behind the checkout

contacts as a diplomat

and I really know what I am doing with that

one who does not go to war in syria

to resolve

The Netherlands can not do that either, but I hope

I know that because of my impatience and far

slightly harder pressure

something more tenacious and knows more

to reach than wait-and-see people

I see it as my role for a light

to shine on the darkest places in

the world

and those people who have a story

also give a podium on it

world stage

and in that association of owners

from that apartment building where we are all together

now live in Brabant and they live in Syria

because I do not believe that we are here

really know peace

as long as there is conflict elsewhere in anger

also because there is always play about effects

if there is war elsewhere or

we experience this early at home or

let the disadvantages

and I also do not think we are like people

have peace that the toddlers die

the beach or on the wash

we have no peace with war

thank you

[Applause]

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