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Unlearning Gender | Tasaffy Hossain | TEDxNorthSouthUniversity


hello can everyone hear me okay

hello can everyone hear me okay so I grew up in a pretty laid-back

so I grew up in a pretty laid-back

so I grew up in a pretty laid-back family there weren’t that many

family there weren’t that many

family there weren’t that many restrictions for being going up there as

restrictions for being going up there as

restrictions for being going up there as a girl I grew up at the time when haka

a girl I grew up at the time when haka

a girl I grew up at the time when haka still had very much a part of culture so

still had very much a part of culture so

still had very much a part of culture so I was out in the fields in our para mat

I was out in the fields in our para mat

I was out in the fields in our para mat with all the boys every afternoon

with all the boys every afternoon

with all the boys every afternoon running around and playing and you know

running around and playing and you know

running around and playing and you know it started with the usual childhood

it started with the usual childhood

it started with the usual childhood games kind of machito a tree but as we

games kind of machito a tree but as we

games kind of machito a tree but as we grew older of course our games involved

grew older of course our games involved

grew older of course our games involved and became more adult so we moved into

and became more adult so we moved into

and became more adult so we moved into basketball cricket and football a buddy

basketball cricket and football a buddy

basketball cricket and football a buddy I have to say I’m not a cricket fan I

I have to say I’m not a cricket fan I

I have to say I’m not a cricket fan I used to find it really boring you know a

used to find it really boring you know a

used to find it really boring you know a lot of standing around and waiting and

lot of standing around and waiting and

lot of standing around and waiting and then you get to run a little and then

then you get to run a little and then

then you get to run a little and then stand more I hope this does not you know

stand more I hope this does not you know

stand more I hope this does not you know write me off as a legitimate but mother

write me off as a legitimate but mother

write me off as a legitimate but mother she so you know I didn’t grow up really

she so you know I didn’t grow up really

she so you know I didn’t grow up really thinking about differences between being

thinking about differences between being

thinking about differences between being a boy and a girl

a boy and a girl

a boy and a girl but even then I definitely realized that

but even then I definitely realized that

but even then I definitely realized that how I was who I was I was definitely in

how I was who I was I was definitely in

how I was who I was I was definitely in fact a girl

fact a girl

fact a girl and if you ask me when it was the first

and if you ask me when it was the first

and if you ask me when it was the first time that I realized that being a girl

time that I realized that being a girl

time that I realized that being a girl was different from being a boy it’d be

was different from being a boy it’d be

was different from being a boy it’d be difficult for me to pinpoint but I do

difficult for me to pinpoint but I do

difficult for me to pinpoint but I do remember this one time maybe I was seven

remember this one time maybe I was seven

remember this one time maybe I was seven or eight years old and me and my brother

or eight years old and me and my brother

or eight years old and me and my brother who is a few years younger to me we went

who is a few years younger to me we went

who is a few years younger to me we went and we were staying over at my great

and we were staying over at my great

and we were staying over at my great grandmother’s house and the household

grandmother’s house and the household

grandmother’s house and the household there during the meal insisted that my

there during the meal insisted that my

there during the meal insisted that my brother could not have the chicken feet

brother could not have the chicken feet

brother could not have the chicken feet which was in the curry chicken feet not

which was in the curry chicken feet not

which was in the curry chicken feet not chicken leg by the way she insisted that

chicken leg by the way she insisted that

chicken leg by the way she insisted that he cannot have it but if I wanted to I

he cannot have it but if I wanted to I

he cannot have it but if I wanted to I could which was odd but fine I took it

could which was odd but fine I took it

could which was odd but fine I took it on my plate and eventually sneaked it

on my plate and eventually sneaked it

on my plate and eventually sneaked it over to my brother when she wasn’t

over to my brother when she wasn’t

over to my brother when she wasn’t noticing now if they actually went and

noticing now if they actually went and

noticing now if they actually went and told my mother about this story and I

told my mother about this story and I

told my mother about this story and I asked her what this was about

asked her what this was about

asked her what this was about and even for her it took her a little

and even for her it took her a little

and even for her it took her a little while to think about this and remember

while to think about this and remember

while to think about this and remember that there is some kind of a myth where

that there is some kind of a myth where

that there is some kind of a myth where boys are not allowed to eat chicken feet

boys are not allowed to eat chicken feet

boys are not allowed to eat chicken feet and chicken hearts because one is

and chicken hearts because one is

and chicken hearts because one is considered a waist part and the other

considered a waist part and the other

considered a waist part and the other will apparently make young boys grow up

will apparently make young boys grow up

will apparently make young boys grow up to be cowardly men funny right of course

to be cowardly men funny right of course

to be cowardly men funny right of course my mother laughed at this and laughed it

my mother laughed at this and laughed it

my mother laughed at this and laughed it off and me when I was hearing this story

off and me when I was hearing this story

off and me when I was hearing this story from her I laughed along with her and I

from her I laughed along with her and I

from her I laughed along with her and I didn’t think much about it at least not

didn’t think much about it at least not

didn’t think much about it at least not then but I guess in many ways they stuck

then but I guess in many ways they stuck

then but I guess in many ways they stuck with me and I realized that even if my

with me and I realized that even if my

with me and I realized that even if my parents didn’t really make differences

parents didn’t really make differences

parents didn’t really make differences between us being a boy and a girl

between us being a boy and a girl

between us being a boy and a girl people other people around us definitely

people other people around us definitely

people other people around us definitely sauce differently and not only did this

sauce differently and not only did this

sauce differently and not only did this see us differently they believed that we

see us differently they believed that we

see us differently they believed that we deserved different things so I guess

deserved different things so I guess

deserved different things so I guess this was my introduction to gender 101

this was my introduction to gender 101

this was my introduction to gender 101 just to ensure that we are all on the

just to ensure that we are all on the

just to ensure that we are all on the same page I would like to ask with a

same page I would like to ask with a

same page I would like to ask with a show of hands how many of you know the

show of hands how many of you know the

show of hands how many of you know the difference between sex and gender

okay about 50% how many of you think

okay about 50% how many of you think that sex and gender is the same thing

alright so they’re not just for the

alright so they’re not just for the basics sex is the biological difference

basics sex is the biological difference

basics sex is the biological difference between males and females so pretty

between males and females so pretty

between males and females so pretty simply if you’re born with a penis man

simply if you’re born with a penis man

simply if you’re born with a penis man you’re born with a vagina female sorry

you’re born with a vagina female sorry

you’re born with a vagina female sorry male and female there’s also the term

male and female there’s also the term

male and female there’s also the term intersex which is if which is typically

intersex which is if which is typically

intersex which is if which is typically people who are not necessarily born with

people who are not necessarily born with

people who are not necessarily born with any one of these specifically defined

any one of these specifically defined

any one of these specifically defined body parts gender on the other hand is a

body parts gender on the other hand is a

body parts gender on the other hand is a social cultural attribute that is placed

social cultural attribute that is placed

social cultural attribute that is placed upon males and females so it’s what we

upon males and females so it’s what we

upon males and females so it’s what we expect males and females to look like or

expect males and females to look like or

expect males and females to look like or behave for example let’s say boys we

behave for example let’s say boys we

behave for example let’s say boys we have short hair and girls will have long

have short hair and girls will have long

have short hair and girls will have long hair it’s not necessarily part of our

hair it’s not necessarily part of our

hair it’s not necessarily part of our sex because face it we can both grow our

sex because face it we can both grow our

sex because face it we can both grow our hair then we can both got our hairs

hair then we can both got our hairs

hair then we can both got our hairs right but we also say things like boys

right but we also say things like boys

right but we also say things like boys or men would be interested in cards and

or men would be interested in cards and

or men would be interested in cards and women on the other hand will be

women on the other hand will be

women on the other hand will be interested in baking this is a social

interested in baking this is a social

interested in baking this is a social expectation of what we’re supposed to be

expectation of what we’re supposed to be

expectation of what we’re supposed to be interested in or we are supposed to move

interested in or we are supposed to move

interested in or we are supposed to move towards our roles that we expected to

towards our roles that we expected to

towards our roles that we expected to play so I would think cooler ones for

play so I would think cooler ones for

play so I would think cooler ones for for one of my work projects I get to

for one of my work projects I get to

for one of my work projects I get to travel a lot around Bangladesh for the

travel a lot around Bangladesh for the

travel a lot around Bangladesh for the work I do and go to really rural parts

work I do and go to really rural parts

work I do and go to really rural parts of the country very green very beautiful

of the country very green very beautiful

of the country very green very beautiful it’s one of the perks I have and we were

it’s one of the perks I have and we were

it’s one of the perks I have and we were at lunch at this public officials house

at lunch at this public officials house

at lunch at this public officials house and he happened to also be involved in

and he happened to also be involved in

and he happened to also be involved in fish farming star team two women and two

fish farming star team two women and two

fish farming star team two women and two men we’re standing around this table

men we’re standing around this table

men we’re standing around this table which is laid out with a whole different

which is laid out with a whole different

which is laid out with a whole different bunch of fish and prawn curries and our

bunch of fish and prawn curries and our

bunch of fish and prawn curries and our gracious host

gracious host

gracious host exclaims please please good serve

exclaims please please good serve

exclaims please please good serve yourself you know how to do it the men

yourself you know how to do it the men

yourself you know how to do it the men might have some trouble with it talk

might have some trouble with it talk

might have some trouble with it talk about this I actually wonder sometimes

about this I actually wonder sometimes

about this I actually wonder sometimes what I should be more offended by

what I should be more offended by

what I should be more offended by whether it’s the fact that he thinks

whether it’s the fact that he thinks

whether it’s the fact that he thinks serving food is only for women to do or

serving food is only for women to do or

serving food is only for women to do or that men are partly so inept they don’t

that men are partly so inept they don’t

that men are partly so inept they don’t know how to reach out pick up a spoon

know how to reach out pick up a spoon

know how to reach out pick up a spoon and put food on their plates this is

and put food on their plates this is

and put food on their plates this is what gender has told this man he had

what gender has told this man he had

what gender has told this man he had learned that cooking and serving food is

learned that cooking and serving food is

learned that cooking and serving food is woman’s work and men don’t do it so

woman’s work and men don’t do it so

woman’s work and men don’t do it so there we are asked multi-talented women

there we are asked multi-talented women

there we are asked multi-talented women we start serving our food and the house

we start serving our food and the house

we start serving our food and the house health work walks in to start serving

health work walks in to start serving

health work walks in to start serving the men going to be noted the house help

the men going to be noted the house help

the men going to be noted the house help was actually a young man so this is what

was actually a young man so this is what

was actually a young man so this is what gendering had also taught our gracious

gendering had also taught our gracious

gendering had also taught our gracious hosts cooking and serving food is

hosts cooking and serving food is

hosts cooking and serving food is woman’s jaw is a woman’s job men don’t

woman’s jaw is a woman’s job men don’t

woman’s jaw is a woman’s job men don’t do it unless it’s a man who is providing

do it unless it’s a man who is providing

do it unless it’s a man who is providing a service and preferably of a

a service and preferably of a

a service and preferably of a socio-economic position which is

socio-economic position which is

socio-economic position which is inferior to him and that’s what we’ve

inferior to him and that’s what we’ve

inferior to him and that’s what we’ve learnt as well we’ve learned that

learnt as well we’ve learned that

learnt as well we’ve learned that different things that different

different things that different

different things that different attributes of males and females are

attributes of males and females are

attributes of males and females are valued in different ways we have been

valued in different ways we have been

valued in different ways we have been taught that as a woman we’ve been taught

taught that as a woman we’ve been taught

taught that as a woman we’ve been taught that certain things such as certain

that certain things such as certain

that certain things such as certain attributes that are considered to be

attributes that are considered to be

attributes that are considered to be masculine like say being independent

masculine like say being independent

masculine like say being independent being opinionated or analytical

being opinionated or analytical

being opinionated or analytical these are attributes we we all want

these are attributes we we all want

these are attributes we we all want these are all attributes of leadership

these are all attributes of leadership

these are all attributes of leadership and both men and women we want to have

and both men and women we want to have

and both men and women we want to have them on the other hand we’ve also taught

them on the other hand we’ve also taught

them on the other hand we’ve also taught we are also thinking that certain

we are also thinking that certain

we are also thinking that certain attributes which are considered to be

attributes which are considered to be

attributes which are considered to be feminine being emotional being soft

feminine being emotional being soft

feminine being emotional being soft these are looked at as weaknesses and

these are looked at as weaknesses and

these are looked at as weaknesses and we’ve picked this up in life

we’ve picked this up in life

we’ve picked this up in life for the longest time when I was a kid I

for the longest time when I was a kid I

for the longest time when I was a kid I wished I was a boy and nobody had told

wished I was a boy and nobody had told

wished I was a boy and nobody had told me this I wished it because I liked to

me this I wished it because I liked to

me this I wished it because I liked to do things which when thought of as

do things which when thought of as

do things which when thought of as things girls did I liked running around

things girls did I liked running around

things girls did I liked running around and playing sports and I watched on TV

and playing sports and I watched on TV

and playing sports and I watched on TV cricket games and football games where

cricket games and football games where

cricket games and football games where the only people on the field we’re men

the only people on the field we’re men

the only people on the field we’re men so it’s supposed to be things boys do I

so it’s supposed to be things boys do I

so it’s supposed to be things boys do I learned it by seeing other girls in my

learned it by seeing other girls in my

learned it by seeing other girls in my school who have been told not to go out

school who have been told not to go out

school who have been told not to go out doors so in games classes they stayed in

doors so in games classes they stayed in

doors so in games classes they stayed in the class which is not something I

the class which is not something I

the class which is not something I wanted to do so it took me a long time

wanted to do so it took me a long time

wanted to do so it took me a long time you know I wasn’t as cool as Nancy over

you know I wasn’t as cool as Nancy over

you know I wasn’t as cool as Nancy over there so it took me a long time to

there so it took me a long time to

there so it took me a long time to embrace my own femininity and I don’t

embrace my own femininity and I don’t

embrace my own femininity and I don’t mean wearing earrings or putting on

mean wearing earrings or putting on

mean wearing earrings or putting on lipstick I mean more the attributes that

lipstick I mean more the attributes that

lipstick I mean more the attributes that I talked about earlier what are

I talked about earlier what are

I talked about earlier what are considered feminine and what are

considered feminine and what are

considered feminine and what are considered masculine and I learned to

considered masculine and I learned to

considered masculine and I learned to embrace both those sides of myself but

embrace both those sides of myself but

embrace both those sides of myself but as I did that I also kept on questioning

as I did that I also kept on questioning

as I did that I also kept on questioning whether these beliefs that I bring

whether these beliefs that I bring

whether these beliefs that I bring myself not just the boxes that society

myself not just the boxes that society

myself not just the boxes that society expects us to fit into but what are the

expects us to fit into but what are the

expects us to fit into but what are the believes what are the constrictions that

believes what are the constrictions that

believes what are the constrictions that I put on myself I know the more I

I put on myself I know the more I

I put on myself I know the more I thought about this the more I read about

thought about this the more I read about

thought about this the more I read about this I kept on realizing that I judged

this I kept on realizing that I judged

this I kept on realizing that I judged myself so many times because I felt I

myself so many times because I felt I

myself so many times because I felt I was showing too much anger for a woman

was showing too much anger for a woman

was showing too much anger for a woman I’ve just other woman too by the way

I’ve just other woman too by the way

I’ve just other woman too by the way they behaved or chose to dress because I

they behaved or chose to dress because I

they behaved or chose to dress because I felt they didn’t fit into what I thought

felt they didn’t fit into what I thought

felt they didn’t fit into what I thought was womanly enough I’ve just judged men

was womanly enough I’ve just judged men

was womanly enough I’ve just judged men around me because I thought they weren’t

around me because I thought they weren’t

around me because I thought they weren’t being as much go-getters as I expected

being as much go-getters as I expected

being as much go-getters as I expected them to be so what I’m saying is a lot

them to be so what I’m saying is a lot

them to be so what I’m saying is a lot of the issues around gender is not just

of the issues around gender is not just

of the issues around gender is not just society putting it on us most of it is

society putting it on us most of it is

society putting it on us most of it is all the things that we’ve learned in our

all the things that we’ve learned in our

all the things that we’ve learned in our lives and how we reproduce them in our

lives and how we reproduce them in our

lives and how we reproduce them in our everyday lives

everyday lives

everyday lives to ourselves and others around us and it

to ourselves and others around us and it

to ourselves and others around us and it doesn’t make my life easier I get to be

doesn’t make my life easier I get to be

doesn’t make my life easier I get to be in situations and positions and I have

in situations and positions and I have

in situations and positions and I have to keep on questioning myself if we’re

to keep on questioning myself if we’re

to keep on questioning myself if we’re I’m expecting out of that situation if

I’m expecting out of that situation if

I’m expecting out of that situation if what I want to say is based on what I

what I want to say is based on what I

what I want to say is based on what I think is supposed to be or it’s my own

think is supposed to be or it’s my own

think is supposed to be or it’s my own unadulterated choice and the more I

unadulterated choice and the more I

unadulterated choice and the more I question myself about this I realized

question myself about this I realized

question myself about this I realized that we are nothing called unadulterated

that we are nothing called unadulterated

that we are nothing called unadulterated choice everything that I’ve learned in

choice everything that I’ve learned in

choice everything that I’ve learned in life and picked up by seeing things

life and picked up by seeing things

life and picked up by seeing things around me hearing things there are me

around me hearing things there are me

around me hearing things there are me reading things around me I the normal

reading things around me I the normal

reading things around me I the normal way is for me to just reproduce them and

way is for me to just reproduce them and

way is for me to just reproduce them and I fail at it continuously but you know

I fail at it continuously but you know

I fail at it continuously but you know what they say if you don’t fail you

what they say if you don’t fail you

what they say if you don’t fail you don’t learn and if you don’t learn you

don’t learn and if you don’t learn you

don’t learn and if you don’t learn you can’t change so hopefully as we fail

can’t change so hopefully as we fail

can’t change so hopefully as we fail every day we would start to unlearn

every day we would start to unlearn

every day we would start to unlearn everything that we’ve learned before and

everything that we’ve learned before and

everything that we’ve learned before and maybe one day we can stand around and

maybe one day we can stand around and

maybe one day we can stand around and see each other for just our human

see each other for just our human

see each other for just our human elements not the length of our hairs or

elements not the length of our hairs or

elements not the length of our hairs or the clothes we wear or even the roles we

the clothes we wear or even the roles we

the clothes we wear or even the roles we play thank you

play thank you

play thank you [Applause]

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