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this is mama Newell alum booyah the time

this is mama Newell alum booyah the time he gave this interview to NBC warming

he gave this interview to NBC warming

he gave this interview to NBC warming rule was 25 years old

rule was 25 years old

rule was 25 years old mama Newell is one of the few United

mama Newell is one of the few United

mama Newell is one of the few United States American so-called foreign

States American so-called foreign

States American so-called foreign terrorist fighters

terrorist fighters

terrorist fighters he’s a person who actually successfully

he’s a person who actually successfully

he’s a person who actually successfully left the United States to travel to

left the United States to travel to

left the United States to travel to Syria to join a terrorist organization

Syria to join a terrorist organization

Syria to join a terrorist organization what we hear in the West usually call

what we hear in the West usually call

what we hear in the West usually call isis isil daesh so-called Islamic state

isis isil daesh so-called Islamic state

isis isil daesh so-called Islamic state he made it their joint organization

he made it their joint organization

he made it their joint organization receive training and wanted to come back

receive training and wanted to come back

receive training and wanted to come back in October 2014 he contacted the FBI

in October 2014 he contacted the FBI

in October 2014 he contacted the FBI wrote an email said I want to come back

wrote an email said I want to come back

wrote an email said I want to come back I need your help well the FBI was still

I need your help well the FBI was still

I need your help well the FBI was still thinking about what to do with Mohammed

thinking about what to do with Mohammed

thinking about what to do with Mohammed no he eventually made it back on his own

no he eventually made it back on his own

no he eventually made it back on his own a couple of days later now I don’t have

a couple of days later now I don’t have

a couple of days later now I don’t have his story in here today because he

his story in here today because he

his story in here today because he actually made it back very few very very

actually made it back very few very very

actually made it back very few very very few individuals make it back after

few individuals make it back after

few individuals make it back after having successfully traveled to Iraq and

having successfully traveled to Iraq and

having successfully traveled to Iraq and having joined ISIL of course he was

having joined ISIL of course he was

having joined ISIL of course he was immediately arrested for the trial he

immediately arrested for the trial he

immediately arrested for the trial he will eventually face about 25 years in

will eventually face about 25 years in

will eventually face about 25 years in prison

prison

prison what makes his story so interesting

what makes his story so interesting

what makes his story so interesting today is that mama Newell had a very

today is that mama Newell had a very

today is that mama Newell had a very very bright future ahead of them between

very bright future ahead of them between

very bright future ahead of them between January and May 24 2013

January and May 24 2013

January and May 24 2013 he was actually studying at Columbia

he was actually studying at Columbia

he was actually studying at Columbia University’s School of General Studies

University’s School of General Studies

University’s School of General Studies making him arguably the first and so far

making him arguably the first and so far

making him arguably the first and so far only known Ivy League student who ever

only known Ivy League student who ever

only known Ivy League student who ever joined ISIL now the Washington Post

joined ISIL now the Washington Post

joined ISIL now the Washington Post reported that more mineral wrote an

reported that more mineral wrote an

reported that more mineral wrote an essay a student essay praising Franklin

essay a student essay praising Franklin

essay a student essay praising Franklin D Roosevelt and Winston Churchill for

D Roosevelt and Winston Churchill for

D Roosevelt and Winston Churchill for fighting against the forces of evil

fighting against the forces of evil

fighting against the forces of evil under Adolf Hitler then that essay more

under Adolf Hitler then that essay more

under Adolf Hitler then that essay more minou wrote quote I believe I have

minou wrote quote I believe I have

minou wrote quote I believe I have greatness in me I want to be a superhero

greatness in me I want to be a superhero

greatness in me I want to be a superhero we in the West

we in the West

we in the West tend to think of violent radicalization

tend to think of violent radicalization

tend to think of violent radicalization a process that would lead you to making

a process that would lead you to making

a process that would lead you to making that decision of leaving everyone behind

that decision of leaving everyone behind

that decision of leaving everyone behind joining a terrorist organization and

joining a terrorist organization and

joining a terrorist organization and participating in a civil war that

participating in a civil war that

participating in a civil war that process must be something pathologic it

process must be something pathologic it

process must be something pathologic it must be a disease a sickness that these

must be a disease a sickness that these

must be a disease a sickness that these persons are not normal they have to be

persons are not normal they have to be

persons are not normal they have to be missing something in their lives they

missing something in their lives they

missing something in their lives they have to be desperately longing for

have to be desperately longing for

have to be desperately longing for something that they would actually make

something that they would actually make

something that they would actually make that step now we also think that if you

that step now we also think that if you

that step now we also think that if you have a loving family friends a job

have a loving family friends a job

have a loving family friends a job future perspectives education you would

future perspectives education you would

future perspectives education you would never succumb to an extremist violent

never succumb to an extremist violent

never succumb to an extremist violent ideology or would you during the last

ideology or would you during the last

ideology or would you during the last six years I’ve worked with close to

six years I’ve worked with close to

six years I’ve worked with close to hundred and fifty families around the

hundred and fifty families around the

hundred and fifty families around the world all of them have been affected by

world all of them have been affected by

world all of them have been affected by violent extremist radicalization

violent extremist radicalization

violent extremist radicalization processes

processes

processes mostly so called jihadist radicalization

mostly so called jihadist radicalization

mostly so called jihadist radicalization their sons and daughters and these

their sons and daughters and these

their sons and daughters and these families wanted to join ISIL some of

families wanted to join ISIL some of

families wanted to join ISIL some of them made it some of them came back and

them made it some of them came back and

them made it some of them came back and I helped these families to prevent that

I helped these families to prevent that

I helped these families to prevent that children from going further down the

children from going further down the

children from going further down the road help them to return help them to

road help them to return help them to

road help them to return help them to work with them when they eventually end

work with them when they eventually end

work with them when they eventually end up in prison or when they were killed I

up in prison or when they were killed I

up in prison or when they were killed I helped the families to grieve in short I

helped the families to grieve in short I

helped the families to grieve in short I helped to deer addict lies their

helped to deer addict lies their

helped to deer addict lies their children I’ve done that with a network

children I’ve done that with a network

children I’ve done that with a network that I’ve helped to create an end of

that I’ve helped to create an end of

that I’ve helped to create an end of 2014 called mothers for life originally

2014 called mothers for life originally

2014 called mothers for life originally it started off with four mothers whose

it started off with four mothers whose

it started off with four mothers whose sons had been killed while being foreign

sons had been killed while being foreign

sons had been killed while being foreign fighters while being active members of

fighters while being active members of

fighters while being active members of ISIL and these mothers bounded together

ISIL and these mothers bounded together

ISIL and these mothers bounded together today this network includes close to 200

today this network includes close to 200

today this network includes close to 200 families from 11 countries all of these

families from 11 countries all of these

families from 11 countries all of these families either have lost someone they

families either have lost someone they

families either have lost someone they loved or they’ve still someone alive who

loved or they’ve still someone alive who

loved or they’ve still someone alive who is in the process of radicalization or D

is in the process of radicalization or D

is in the process of radicalization or D radicalization now that network provides

radicalization now that network provides

radicalization now that network provides help and assistance for these affected

help and assistance for these affected

help and assistance for these affected families provides access and contact

families provides access and contact

families provides access and contact points to experts that I train through

points to experts that I train through

points to experts that I train through my own Institute for the organization

my own Institute for the organization

my own Institute for the organization which mothers for lives a project office

which mothers for lives a project office

which mothers for lives a project office called German Institute and

called German Institute and

called German Institute and radicalization and davidic ization study

radicalization and davidic ization study

radicalization and davidic ization study or Gertz which is located in stuttgart

or Gertz which is located in stuttgart

or Gertz which is located in stuttgart which is very important because it

which is very important because it

which is very important because it trains and I do that I trained expert D

trains and I do that I trained expert D

trains and I do that I trained expert D reticles ation counselors family

reticles ation counselors family

reticles ation counselors family counselors provide family counseling and

counselors provide family counseling and

counselors provide family counseling and advise government’s how to build D

advise government’s how to build D

advise government’s how to build D radicalization and family counseling

radicalization and family counseling

radicalization and family counseling programs now when we look back on these

programs now when we look back on these

programs now when we look back on these years of experience I’ve come to

years of experience I’ve come to

years of experience I’ve come to recognize that there’s something that I

recognize that there’s something that I

recognize that there’s something that I would call a radicalization recipe

would call a radicalization recipe

would call a radicalization recipe that’s very individual it’s individually

that’s very individual it’s individually

that’s very individual it’s individually mixed but always includes two sets of

mixed but always includes two sets of

mixed but always includes two sets of factors it includes

factors it includes

factors it includes negative factors and positive factors

negative factors and positive factors

negative factors and positive factors negative are indeed frustration anger

negative are indeed frustration anger

negative are indeed frustration anger when you lose your job when you have

when you lose your job when you have

when you lose your job when you have fights in a family when you experience

fights in a family when you experience

fights in a family when you experience racism or bullying in school we don’t

racism or bullying in school we don’t

racism or bullying in school we don’t have a perspective or a lack of

have a perspective or a lack of

have a perspective or a lack of education but that does not turn anyone

education but that does not turn anyone

education but that does not turn anyone radical or extremist all of you in this

radical or extremist all of you in this

radical or extremist all of you in this room have some kind of frustration that

room have some kind of frustration that

room have some kind of frustration that would never make you considering joining

would never make you considering joining

would never make you considering joining an extremist or terrorist organization

an extremist or terrorist organization

an extremist or terrorist organization now the second factor set of factors

now the second factor set of factors

now the second factor set of factors actually the positive ones our quest for

actually the positive ones our quest for

actually the positive ones our quest for justice freedom honor dignity pride help

justice freedom honor dignity pride help

justice freedom honor dignity pride help to defend your brothers and sisters in

to defend your brothers and sisters in

to defend your brothers and sisters in Syria women and children to turn the

Syria women and children to turn the

Syria women and children to turn the world to be a better place again

world to be a better place again

world to be a better place again everyone in this room has a certain

everyone in this room has a certain

everyone in this room has a certain degree of positive factors we have high

degree of positive factors we have high

degree of positive factors we have high ideals hopes and values grown to live

ideals hopes and values grown to live

ideals hopes and values grown to live out these ideals and values now these

out these ideals and values now these

out these ideals and values now these two sets of factors there are blinded

two sets of factors there are blinded

two sets of factors there are blinded together by a radical ideology every

together by a radical ideology every

together by a radical ideology every ideology provides you with three things

ideology provides you with three things

ideology provides you with three things provides you with a problem definition

provides you with a problem definition

provides you with a problem definition it tells you what is wrong in the world

it tells you what is wrong in the world

it tells you what is wrong in the world and what is wrong in your life and why

and what is wrong in your life and why

and what is wrong in your life and why that is connects these two things

that is connects these two things

that is connects these two things second provides you with a solution it

second provides you with a solution it

second provides you with a solution it offers you tools to solve the problems

offers you tools to solve the problems

offers you tools to solve the problems in the world and in your life and

in the world and in your life and

in the world and in your life and thirdly provides you with a future

thirdly provides you with a future

thirdly provides you with a future vision it gives you a specific goal to

vision it gives you a specific goal to

vision it gives you a specific goal to strive for it explains to you why it is

strive for it explains to you why it is

strive for it explains to you why it is worthy to strive and fight and

worthy to strive and fight and

worthy to strive and fight and eventually die for a certain idea now a

eventually die for a certain idea now a

eventually die for a certain idea now a group like ISIL which is a jihadist

group like ISIL which is a jihadist

group like ISIL which is a jihadist terrorist organization

terrorist organization

terrorist organization very easy core narrative and ideology

very easy core narrative and ideology

very easy core narrative and ideology like any other jihadist organization

like any other jihadist organization

like any other jihadist organization they think and claim that Islam is

they think and claim that Islam is

they think and claim that Islam is globally under attack by the forces of

globally under attack by the forces of

globally under attack by the forces of evil and disbelief second they say

evil and disbelief second they say

evil and disbelief second they say there’s only one solution to that

there’s only one solution to that

there’s only one solution to that problem which is making a stand fighting

problem which is making a stand fighting

problem which is making a stand fighting back performing the violent jihad as an

back performing the violent jihad as an

back performing the violent jihad as an individual duty for every true Muslim

individual duty for every true Muslim

individual duty for every true Muslim and thirdly

and thirdly

and thirdly they say every jihadist organization

they say every jihadist organization

they say every jihadist organization does that the only true future the

does that the only true future the

does that the only true future the vision what we are striving for as true

vision what we are striving for as true

vision what we are striving for as true muslims is to establish and defend the

muslims is to establish and defend the

muslims is to establish and defend the caliphate the almost mythical perfect

caliphate the almost mythical perfect

caliphate the almost mythical perfect home state for every true Muslim to

home state for every true Muslim to

home state for every true Muslim to protect Muslims to be a new rallying

protect Muslims to be a new rallying

protect Muslims to be a new rallying point for them and I so claims that they

point for them and I so claims that they

point for them and I so claims that they have done that they have succeeded in

have done that they have succeeded in

have done that they have succeeded in establishing the caliphate so when we

establishing the caliphate so when we

establishing the caliphate so when we look back and take this together its

look back and take this together its

look back and take this together its radicalization recipe the ideology we

radicalization recipe the ideology we

radicalization recipe the ideology we can see that it’s not frustration

can see that it’s not frustration

can see that it’s not frustration theology adventure-seeking that

theology adventure-seeking that

theology adventure-seeking that initially opens you up for that ideology

initially opens you up for that ideology

initially opens you up for that ideology that narrative it is plain and simple

that narrative it is plain and simple

that narrative it is plain and simple trust it’s plain and simple trust in a

trust it’s plain and simple trust in a

trust it’s plain and simple trust in a specific recruiter in specific video

specific recruiter in specific video

specific recruiter in specific video picture high glossy magazine that

picture high glossy magazine that

picture high glossy magazine that transports these narratives in a very

transports these narratives in a very

transports these narratives in a very specific way and ISIL knows how to do

specific way and ISIL knows how to do

specific way and ISIL knows how to do that they have taken over a handbook a

that they have taken over a handbook a

that they have taken over a handbook a recruitment handbook that was designed

recruitment handbook that was designed

recruitment handbook that was designed originally by al-qaeda they just taken

originally by al-qaeda they just taken

originally by al-qaeda they just taken it over and made it more specific which

it over and made it more specific which

it over and made it more specific which is very very sophisticated includes a

is very very sophisticated includes a

is very very sophisticated includes a five-step recruitment process actually

five-step recruitment process actually

five-step recruitment process actually they wouldn’t even mention the term

they wouldn’t even mention the term

they wouldn’t even mention the term jihad until the fourth stage because

jihad until the fourth stage because

jihad until the fourth stage because they know key to reaching out to these

they know key to reaching out to these

they know key to reaching out to these individuals and all around the world is

individuals and all around the world is

individuals and all around the world is to gain that trust to build a positive

to gain that trust to build a positive

to gain that trust to build a positive emotional relationship while of course

emotional relationship while of course

emotional relationship while of course not every recruitment process starts

not every recruitment process starts

not every recruitment process starts with a human recruiter being present

with a human recruiter being present

with a human recruiter being present initially at some point a young adult or

initially at some point a young adult or

initially at some point a young adult or teenager will get in touch will get in

teenager will get in touch will get in

teenager will get in touch will get in contact with the person

contact with the person

contact with the person has received that kind of recruiter

has received that kind of recruiter

has received that kind of recruiter training so this trust that actually

training so this trust that actually

training so this trust that actually someone has recognized the greatness in

someone has recognized the greatness in

someone has recognized the greatness in you that someone is actually providing

you that someone is actually providing

you that someone is actually providing you with the chance the unique

you with the chance the unique

you with the chance the unique opportunity to be a superhero and to

opportunity to be a superhero and to

opportunity to be a superhero and to change the world is what makes Isis so

change the world is what makes Isis so

change the world is what makes Isis so attractive and other violent extremist

attractive and other violent extremist

attractive and other violent extremist groups luckily for us violent

groups luckily for us violent

groups luckily for us violent radicalization process are not a one-way

radicalization process are not a one-way

radicalization process are not a one-way street they are very dynamic they go

street they are very dynamic they go

street they are very dynamic they go back and forth and together with mothers

back and forth and together with mothers

back and forth and together with mothers for life I work with individuals who in

for life I work with individuals who in

for life I work with individuals who in the academia are called associate

the academia are called associate

the academia are called associate gatekeepers gatekeepers are persons who

gatekeepers gatekeepers are persons who

gatekeepers gatekeepers are persons who already have that trust that ISIL needs

already have that trust that ISIL needs

already have that trust that ISIL needs to build up they already have that

to build up they already have that

to build up they already have that relationship that ISIL wants to have so

relationship that ISIL wants to have so

relationship that ISIL wants to have so ISIL is very careful not to step in

ISIL is very careful not to step in

ISIL is very careful not to step in between a potential recruits gatekeepers

between a potential recruits gatekeepers

between a potential recruits gatekeepers until their own relationship with that

until their own relationship with that

until their own relationship with that person is strong enough to play that one

person is strong enough to play that one

person is strong enough to play that one out against the gatekeepers gatekeepers

out against the gatekeepers gatekeepers

out against the gatekeepers gatekeepers can be mothers parents family members

can be mothers parents family members

can be mothers parents family members brothers sisters colleagues students

brothers sisters colleagues students

brothers sisters colleagues students friends employers childhood friends

friends employers childhood friends

friends employers childhood friends whoever has some form of close

whoever has some form of close

whoever has some form of close relationship to that person it’s the

relationship to that person it’s the

relationship to that person it’s the trust that exists between you and your

trust that exists between you and your

trust that exists between you and your mother the felt when your mother was

mother the felt when your mother was

mother the felt when your mother was caring for you when you were sick the

caring for you when you were sick the

caring for you when you were sick the trust you felt when your father caught

trust you felt when your father caught

trust you felt when your father caught you falling one day all the trust you

you falling one day all the trust you

you falling one day all the trust you felt on you shared your deepest secrets

felt on you shared your deepest secrets

felt on you shared your deepest secrets with your brother sisters or childhood

with your brother sisters or childhood

with your brother sisters or childhood friends that’s the trust iceless envious

friends that’s the trust iceless envious

friends that’s the trust iceless envious about and it’s the trust they want to

about and it’s the trust they want to

about and it’s the trust they want to have as well so together with other

have as well so together with other

have as well so together with other parents together with expert counselors

parents together with expert counselors

parents together with expert counselors that I’ve trained over the years I am

that I’ve trained over the years I am

that I’ve trained over the years I am using that trust I’m working with that

using that trust I’m working with that

using that trust I’m working with that trust to turn around

trust to turn around

trust to turn around isil’s own recruitment psychology

isil’s own recruitment psychology

isil’s own recruitment psychology against the organization I’m

against the organization I’m

against the organization I’m strengthening and protecting that

strengthening and protecting that

strengthening and protecting that specific trust that already exists

specific trust that already exists

specific trust that already exists between gatekeepers and the potential

between gatekeepers and the potential

between gatekeepers and the potential recruit now to do that we need to

recruit now to do that we need to

recruit now to do that we need to understand how to empower families how

understand how to empower families how

understand how to empower families how to empower communities to become what I

to empower communities to become what I

to empower communities to become what I call

call

call in counter-narratives by their own

in counter-narratives by their own

in counter-narratives by their own existence by their own by the way they

existence by their own by the way they

existence by their own by the way they speak and interact with family members

speak and interact with family members

speak and interact with family members with their friends with their students

with their friends with their students

with their friends with their students they can completely take the fume take

they can completely take the fume take

they can completely take the fume take the fuel out of isil’s narrative or the

the fuel out of isil’s narrative or the

the fuel out of isil’s narrative or the narrative of other extremist

narrative of other extremist

narrative of other extremist organizations like neo-nazi groups for

organizations like neo-nazi groups for

organizations like neo-nazi groups for example we have to realize that mothers

example we have to realize that mothers

example we have to realize that mothers for life Gertz and other programs that

for life Gertz and other programs that

for life Gertz and other programs that are currently spreading adjust a first

are currently spreading adjust a first

are currently spreading adjust a first start so what I want to tell you today

start so what I want to tell you today

start so what I want to tell you today is what you can do to help me to help

is what you can do to help me to help

is what you can do to help me to help the mothers for life in that process

the mothers for life in that process

the mothers for life in that process first of all do not judge the families

first of all do not judge the families

first of all do not judge the families these families are already feeling guilt

these families are already feeling guilt

these families are already feeling guilt and shame they think it’s their fault

and shame they think it’s their fault

and shame they think it’s their fault many have been blamed that it’s their

many have been blamed that it’s their

many have been blamed that it’s their fault that their children have gone to

fault that their children have gone to

fault that their children have gone to ISIL or other extremist organizations

ISIL or other extremist organizations

ISIL or other extremist organizations they are feeling alone massively don’t

they are feeling alone massively don’t

they are feeling alone massively don’t they think they are the only ones in the

they think they are the only ones in the

they think they are the only ones in the world this has this burden and they’re

world this has this burden and they’re

world this has this burden and they’re not a thousands of families around the

not a thousands of families around the

not a thousands of families around the world who have experienced the exact

world who have experienced the exact

world who have experienced the exact same thing so don’t judge the families

same thing so don’t judge the families

same thing so don’t judge the families don’t actually think that is something

don’t actually think that is something

don’t actually think that is something wrong in these families they have no

wrong in these families they have no

wrong in these families they have no chance they are standing up against a

chance they are standing up against a

chance they are standing up against a massively superior sophisticated and

massively superior sophisticated and

massively superior sophisticated and wealthy terrorist organization that

wealthy terrorist organization that

wealthy terrorist organization that directly charges or aims their own

directly charges or aims their own

directly charges or aims their own psychology into these families and

psychology into these families and

psychology into these families and communities second get involved get out

communities second get involved get out

communities second get involved get out work in your communities work with your

work in your communities work with your

work in your communities work with your neighbor your friends your corporations

neighbor your friends your corporations

neighbor your friends your corporations universities whoever needs to see that

universities whoever needs to see that

universities whoever needs to see that diversity and pluralism actually works

diversity and pluralism actually works

diversity and pluralism actually works we need to show and build trust mean to

we need to show and build trust mean to

we need to show and build trust mean to live out that trust to fill that gap

live out that trust to fill that gap

live out that trust to fill that gap that organizations like ISIL and

that organizations like ISIL and

that organizations like ISIL and neo-nazi groups for example prey on we

neo-nazi groups for example prey on we

neo-nazi groups for example prey on we need to prove that even to our weakest

need to prove that even to our weakest

need to prove that even to our weakest community members in diversity lies

community members in diversity lies

community members in diversity lies strength because if we do that we

strength because if we do that we

strength because if we do that we suffocate that straw fire that

suffocate that straw fire that

suffocate that straw fire that organizations like ISIL use as a

organizations like ISIL use as a

organizations like ISIL use as a fertilizer to grow division hate and

fertilizer to grow division hate and

fertilizer to grow division hate and anger and frustration and provide that

anger and frustration and provide that

anger and frustration and provide that solution

solution

solution and thirdly every one of you in this

and thirdly every one of you in this

and thirdly every one of you in this room today is an associate gatekeeper

room today is an associate gatekeeper

room today is an associate gatekeeper every one of you so you have special

every one of you so you have special

every one of you so you have special relationships trust-based relationships

relationships trust-based relationships

relationships trust-based relationships with many people in your lives one day

with many people in your lives one day

with many people in your lives one day you might come across a person here

you might come across a person here

you might come across a person here about a person talk to someone who is

about a person talk to someone who is

about a person talk to someone who is maybe in a process of radicalization who

maybe in a process of radicalization who

maybe in a process of radicalization who knows someone else who might be in a

knows someone else who might be in a

knows someone else who might be in a process radicalization not just only

process radicalization not just only

process radicalization not just only ISIL base maybe a right-wing extremist

ISIL base maybe a right-wing extremist

ISIL base maybe a right-wing extremist group or other extremist groups it’s

group or other extremist groups it’s

group or other extremist groups it’s your role to use your own trust-based

your role to use your own trust-based

your role to use your own trust-based relationship to trust you get from other

relationship to trust you get from other

relationship to trust you get from other individuals to suggest alternative

individuals to suggest alternative

individuals to suggest alternative solutions to suggest alternative visions

solutions to suggest alternative visions

solutions to suggest alternative visions future visions because that is the

future visions because that is the

future visions because that is the unique capability that you as associate

unique capability that you as associate

unique capability that you as associate gatekeepers have you can tell these

gatekeepers have you can tell these

gatekeepers have you can tell these people that they’re not alone that there

people that they’re not alone that there

people that they’re not alone that there are networks like mothers or life out

are networks like mothers or life out

are networks like mothers or life out there that provide expertise knowledge

there that provide expertise knowledge

there that provide expertise knowledge understanding and tools to defuse that

understanding and tools to defuse that

understanding and tools to defuse that radicalization process so what you can

radicalization process so what you can

radicalization process so what you can do is spread the word follow our work

do is spread the word follow our work

do is spread the word follow our work and connect us to those individuals who

and connect us to those individuals who

and connect us to those individuals who need that specific expertise and expert

need that specific expertise and expert

need that specific expertise and expert advisement and eventually to D

advisement and eventually to D

advisement and eventually to D radicalize their beloved ones so in the

radicalize their beloved ones so in the

radicalize their beloved ones so in the sense is up to you to shut the gate to

sense is up to you to shut the gate to

sense is up to you to shut the gate to extremists and terrorists in our own

extremists and terrorists in our own

extremists and terrorists in our own communities thank you

communities thank you

communities thank you [Applause]

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