yeah I’ve been working with a team of
yeah I’ve been working with a team of researchers at the University of Toronto
researchers at the University of Toronto
researchers at the University of Toronto about two years now and see if I can get
about two years now and see if I can get
about two years now and see if I can get this working yes we have been
this working yes we have been
this working yes we have been concentrating on animation character
concentrating on animation character
concentrating on animation character animation and in particular the really
animation and in particular the really
animation and in particular the really what to us is the most important part of
what to us is the most important part of
what to us is the most important part of that which is the human face in any if
that which is the human face in any if
that which is the human face in any if you look at any given movie for example
you look at any given movie for example
you look at any given movie for example you’ll see probably about 70 to 80
you’ll see probably about 70 to 80
you’ll see probably about 70 to 80 percent of the shops being closed up of
percent of the shops being closed up of
percent of the shops being closed up of human face and in animated films getting
human face and in animated films getting
human face and in animated films getting that human face right whether it’s a
that human face right whether it’s a
that human face right whether it’s a human character or a human-like
human character or a human-like
human character or a human-like character is X will either make or break
character is X will either make or break
character is X will either make or break your belief believing in the film and
your belief believing in the film and
your belief believing in the film and often that is a difficult test where
often that is a difficult test where
often that is a difficult test where filmmakers actually fail to do that and
filmmakers actually fail to do that and
filmmakers actually fail to do that and so a so intense is our acuity in seeing
so a so intense is our acuity in seeing
so a so intense is our acuity in seeing human faces that for example I’m gonna
human faces that for example I’m gonna
human faces that for example I’m gonna give you a pop quiz here two faces here
give you a pop quiz here two faces here
give you a pop quiz here two faces here one of them belongs to the 44th
one of them belongs to the 44th
one of them belongs to the 44th President of the United States Barack
President of the United States Barack
President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama raise you’re gonna say
Hussein Obama raise you’re gonna say
Hussein Obama raise you’re gonna say like look at you here raise your left
like look at you here raise your left
like look at you here raise your left hand if you think it’s the guy on the
hand if you think it’s the guy on the
hand if you think it’s the guy on the left your right hand if you think it’s a
left your right hand if you think it’s a
left your right hand if you think it’s a guy on the right okay so I’m looking
guy on the right okay so I’m looking
guy on the right okay so I’m looking m’kay so I’m saying pretty much all
m’kay so I’m saying pretty much all
m’kay so I’m saying pretty much all right hands and they all went up pretty
right hands and they all went up pretty
right hands and they all went up pretty quickly so yeah you’re correct that is
quickly so yeah you’re correct that is
quickly so yeah you’re correct that is Barack Hussein Obama on the right the
Barack Hussein Obama on the right the
Barack Hussein Obama on the right the guy on the Left fellow named Luis Ortiz
guy on the Left fellow named Luis Ortiz
guy on the Left fellow named Luis Ortiz otherwise known as Bronx Obama if you go
otherwise known as Bronx Obama if you go
otherwise known as Bronx Obama if you go to the New York Times website and type
to the New York Times website and type
to the New York Times website and type in his name you will see a documentary
in his name you will see a documentary
in his name you will see a documentary on Luis Ortiz he’s famous obviously more
on Luis Ortiz he’s famous obviously more
on Luis Ortiz he’s famous obviously more famous when Obama was president as being
famous when Obama was president as being
famous when Obama was president as being the guy the go-to guy of any guy in the
the guy the go-to guy of any guy in the
the guy the go-to guy of any guy in the world who looks like Barack Obama now
world who looks like Barack Obama now
world who looks like Barack Obama now think about that there are seven billion
think about that there are seven billion
think about that there are seven billion people on this planet and this guy this
people on this planet and this guy this
people on this planet and this guy this one guy here Louis Ortiz is the guy who
one guy here Louis Ortiz is the guy who
one guy here Louis Ortiz is the guy who looks the most like Barack Obama and yet
looks the most like Barack Obama and yet
looks the most like Barack Obama and yet I saw right hands go up within a half a
I saw right hands go up within a half a
I saw right hands go up within a half a second of my asking that question what
second of my asking that question what
second of my asking that question what is it that separates or distinguishes
is it that separates or distinguishes
is it that separates or distinguishes Luis Ortiz from Barack Obama I think it
Luis Ortiz from Barack Obama I think it
Luis Ortiz from Barack Obama I think it would be kind of hard pressed to tell me
would be kind of hard pressed to tell me
would be kind of hard pressed to tell me the actual differences but instinctively
the actual differences but instinctively
the actual differences but instinctively you knew the difference and this is a
you knew the difference and this is a
you knew the difference and this is a testimonial to our ability to a part of
testimonial to our ability to a part of
testimonial to our ability to a part of our brain which is dedicated from birth
our brain which is dedicated from birth
our brain which is dedicated from birth to being able to distinguish one face
to being able to distinguish one face
to being able to distinguish one face from another a familiar person from a
from another a familiar person from a
from another a familiar person from a stranger or one expression from another
stranger or one expression from another
stranger or one expression from another and when you’re an animator you totally
and when you’re an animator you totally
and when you’re an animator you totally have to get that right and if you fail
have to get that right and if you fail
have to get that right and if you fail to get it right even by a little bit you
to get it right even by a little bit you
to get it right even by a little bit you fall into this thing that’s called the
fall into this thing that’s called the
fall into this thing that’s called the uncanny valley
uncanny valley
uncanny valley so the uncanny valley is a two
so the uncanny valley is a two
so the uncanny valley is a two dimensional graph in which horizontal
dimensional graph in which horizontal
dimensional graph in which horizontal axis is realistic vertical axis is
axis is realistic vertical axis is
axis is realistic vertical axis is trustworthy you would like to think that
trustworthy you would like to think that
trustworthy you would like to think that those things are interrelated that they
those things are interrelated that they
those things are interrelated that they go hand-in-hand for example if you take
go hand-in-hand for example if you take
go hand-in-hand for example if you take a very simple character who’s not very
a very simple character who’s not very
a very simple character who’s not very realistic
realistic
realistic like say this guy I said I’m gonna punch
like say this guy I said I’m gonna punch
like say this guy I said I’m gonna punch you and come hell or high water I wait a
you and come hell or high water I wait a
you and come hell or high water I wait a minute ice-cream-truck okay so this dude
minute ice-cream-truck okay so this dude
minute ice-cream-truck okay so this dude is very simply drawn he’s not very
is very simply drawn he’s not very
is very simply drawn he’s not very realistic and you know we can you can
realistic and you know we can you can
realistic and you know we can you can star in the Simpsons and tell some
star in the Simpsons and tell some
star in the Simpsons and tell some really simple funny stories and yeah we
really simple funny stories and yeah we
really simple funny stories and yeah we buy him on that level going further to
buy him on that level going further to
buy him on that level going further to the right we can get a little more
the right we can get a little more
the right we can get a little more complex run away I in the woods anywhere
complex run away I in the woods anywhere
complex run away I in the woods anywhere [Music]
[Music]
[Music] okay snow-white is literally more
okay snow-white is literally more
okay snow-white is literally more fleshed-out she’s got really great
fleshed-out she’s got really great
fleshed-out she’s got really great human-like gestures simple and stylized
human-like gestures simple and stylized
human-like gestures simple and stylized but we can tell more complex stories
but we can tell more complex stories
but we can tell more complex stories with snow white then we can get even
with snow white then we can get even
with snow white then we can get even more complex going further to the right
more complex going further to the right
more complex going further to the right school was great
school was great
school was great all right Riley is everything okay so
all right Riley is everything okay so
all right Riley is everything okay so yeah that’s Pixar film inside out and
yeah that’s Pixar film inside out and
yeah that’s Pixar film inside out and yeah you what you see there’s a
yeah you what you see there’s a
yeah you what you see there’s a realistic shader or of texture on the
realistic shader or of texture on the
realistic shader or of texture on the purr on her skin Riley’s skin you see
purr on her skin Riley’s skin you see
purr on her skin Riley’s skin you see really shiny hair it looks realistic and
really shiny hair it looks realistic and
really shiny hair it looks realistic and you see a expression she does that I
you see a expression she does that I
you see a expression she does that I roll and that’s what we humans do and
roll and that’s what we humans do and
roll and that’s what we humans do and Pixar has made an incredible reputation
Pixar has made an incredible reputation
Pixar has made an incredible reputation of being not just realistic
of being not just realistic
of being not just realistic but believable so let’s skip ahead to
but believable so let’s skip ahead to
but believable so let’s skip ahead to the all complete all the way over to the
the all complete all the way over to the
the all complete all the way over to the right and we see absolute realism like
right and we see absolute realism like
right and we see absolute realism like this dude I’m totally real and totally
this dude I’m totally real and totally
this dude I’m totally real and totally human you can trust me
human you can trust me
human you can trust me yeah totally trustworthy right because
yeah totally trustworthy right because
yeah totally trustworthy right because he’s got real skin and he’s totally real
he’s got real skin and he’s totally real
he’s got real skin and he’s totally real right but between the Pixar character
right but between the Pixar character
right but between the Pixar character and the dude on the right there’s this
and the dude on the right there’s this
and the dude on the right there’s this weird phenomena that happens in which
weird phenomena that happens in which
weird phenomena that happens in which characters are so realistic that they
characters are so realistic that they
characters are so realistic that they mimic reality but they’re not quite real
mimic reality but they’re not quite real
mimic reality but they’re not quite real like this thing I do rock eternity
like this thing I do rock eternity
like this thing I do rock eternity you like zombies zombies eat brains mom
you like zombies zombies eat brains mom
you like zombies zombies eat brains mom no one likes zombies they’re an
no one likes zombies they’re an
no one likes zombies they’re an abomination I am a social companion I
abomination I am a social companion I
abomination I am a social companion I can speak of emotions that I can
can speak of emotions that I can
can speak of emotions that I can recognize people she’s singing I feel
recognize people she’s singing I feel
recognize people she’s singing I feel fantastic hey hey hey that was there was
fantastic hey hey hey that was there was
fantastic hey hey hey that was there was a video that went viral a few years ago
a video that went viral a few years ago
a video that went viral a few years ago and no it’s kind of terrifying right
and no it’s kind of terrifying right
and no it’s kind of terrifying right something that kind of fits into what
something that kind of fits into what
something that kind of fits into what Steve was talking about earlier these
Steve was talking about earlier these
Steve was talking about earlier these characters are human-like but you don’t
characters are human-like but you don’t
characters are human-like but you don’t really get the impression that they’ve
really get the impression that they’ve
really get the impression that they’ve got an imagination that they’ve got
got an imagination that they’ve got
got an imagination that they’ve got creativity in any real sense that Steve
creativity in any real sense that Steve
creativity in any real sense that Steve was trying to sort of expose us to here
was trying to sort of expose us to here
was trying to sort of expose us to here and that’s the problem that there’s
and that’s the problem that there’s
and that’s the problem that there’s realism without reality and it takes
realism without reality and it takes
realism without reality and it takes away trust and believability
away trust and believability
away trust and believability and where that really happens where that
and where that really happens where that
and where that really happens where that trust gets gets compromised is with
trust gets gets compromised is with
trust gets gets compromised is with speech because speech hat carries a lot
speech because speech hat carries a lot
speech because speech hat carries a lot of the emotion and a lot of the
of the emotion and a lot of the
of the emotion and a lot of the intelligence and the imagination that we
intelligence and the imagination that we
intelligence and the imagination that we as humans show when we’re expressing
as humans show when we’re expressing
as humans show when we’re expressing ourselves through words now what will
ourselves through words now what will
ourselves through words now what will sometimes happen what researchers have
sometimes happen what researchers have
sometimes happen what researchers have been working on has been a realistic
been working on has been a realistic
been working on has been a realistic kind of speech that can be generated and
kind of speech that can be generated and
kind of speech that can be generated and put onto CGI characters whether through
put onto CGI characters whether through
put onto CGI characters whether through artificially intelligent derived speech
artificially intelligent derived speech
artificially intelligent derived speech generation or through an actor actually
generation or through an actor actually
generation or through an actor actually voicing these words and we’ve come a
voicing these words and we’ve come a
voicing these words and we’ve come a fair amount of on this but we’ve have
fair amount of on this but we’ve have
fair amount of on this but we’ve have not achieved the kind of believability
not achieved the kind of believability
not achieved the kind of believability that I would like to see in that I think
that I would like to see in that I think
that I would like to see in that I think that would be share with other people
that would be share with other people
that would be share with other people who are dealing with these characters
who are dealing with these characters
who are dealing with these characters this one I’ll show you here they are son
this one I’ll show you here they are son
this one I’ll show you here they are son una fecha parlante molto Giovanni Corina
una fecha parlante molto Giovanni Corina
una fecha parlante molto Giovanni Corina Poe so a serie de barro molto triste
Poe so a serie de barro molto triste
Poe so a serie de barro molto triste monkey dombarris Pavan Tata with
monkey dombarris Pavan Tata with
monkey dombarris Pavan Tata with voice-o-matic great quality lipsync
voice-o-matic great quality lipsync
voice-o-matic great quality lipsync Ennis okay so there’s yet certainly the
Ennis okay so there’s yet certainly the
Ennis okay so there’s yet certainly the semblance end of speech and those
semblance end of speech and those
semblance end of speech and those characters are properly articulating but
characters are properly articulating but
characters are properly articulating but one can see that it’s not really quite
one can see that it’s not really quite
one can see that it’s not really quite there and the reason it’s not going
there and the reason it’s not going
there and the reason it’s not going there is because we as human beings have
there is because we as human beings have
there is because we as human beings have a great deal of complexity in our faces
a great deal of complexity in our faces
a great deal of complexity in our faces in the machinery of our faces that allow
in the machinery of our faces that allow
in the machinery of our faces that allow us to do some pretty nuanced and very
us to do some pretty nuanced and very
us to do some pretty nuanced and very precise stuff with our lips and our jaws
precise stuff with our lips and our jaws
precise stuff with our lips and our jaws that gives the human-like quality to
that gives the human-like quality to
that gives the human-like quality to speech so one of the things that I do is
speech so one of the things that I do is
speech so one of the things that I do is to teach about the mission that
to teach about the mission that
to teach about the mission that machinery of the face and how that cut
machinery of the face and how that cut
machinery of the face and how that cut ties in to the psychology behind the
ties in to the psychology behind the
ties in to the psychology behind the face so I do a master class called
face so I do a master class called
face so I do a master class called making faces I was just in Sweden
making faces I was just in Sweden
making faces I was just in Sweden teaching this last week I’m going to
teaching this last week I’m going to
teaching this last week I’m going to bring you through like two seconds of
bring you through like two seconds of
bring you through like two seconds of what is otherwise a one-week course
what is otherwise a one-week course
what is otherwise a one-week course we’re made up of muscles and our faces
we’re made up of muscles and our faces
we’re made up of muscles and our faces in particular have dozens of these very
in particular have dozens of these very
in particular have dozens of these very intricately interconnected muscles when
intricately interconnected muscles when
intricately interconnected muscles when we smile as this character is doing here
we smile as this character is doing here
we smile as this character is doing here we’re using two of those muscles on
we’re using two of those muscles on
we’re using two of those muscles on either side of our cheeks are called
either side of our cheeks are called
either side of our cheeks are called zygomatic major muscles but that is as a
zygomatic major muscles but that is as a
zygomatic major muscles but that is as a basic smile kind of putting her into the
basic smile kind of putting her into the
basic smile kind of putting her into the uncanny valley it’s a little bit creepy
uncanny valley it’s a little bit creepy
uncanny valley it’s a little bit creepy in order for a smile to have the kind of
in order for a smile to have the kind of
in order for a smile to have the kind of nuances that human beings have you’ve
nuances that human beings have you’ve
nuances that human beings have you’ve got to add a bunch of other muscles for
got to add a bunch of other muscles for
got to add a bunch of other muscles for example muscle controlling the pushing
example muscle controlling the pushing
example muscle controlling the pushing on the lower eyelids of your eyes is
on the lower eyelids of your eyes is
on the lower eyelids of your eyes is what gives a sense of that she’s
what gives a sense of that she’s
what gives a sense of that she’s actually smiling through her whole head
actually smiling through her whole head
actually smiling through her whole head not just her mouth you can add a bunch
not just her mouth you can add a bunch
not just her mouth you can add a bunch of other muscles like going through
of other muscles like going through
of other muscles like going through lower lip muscles now she’s grinning we
lower lip muscles now she’s grinning we
lower lip muscles now she’s grinning we can add a little bit of upper lip muscle
can add a little bit of upper lip muscle
can add a little bit of upper lip muscle now she’s kind of more genuinely
now she’s kind of more genuinely
now she’s kind of more genuinely grinning we can add subtext to her face
grinning we can add subtext to her face
grinning we can add subtext to her face through these other muscles like in her
through these other muscles like in her
through these other muscles like in her neck and those sides of her jaw and then
neck and those sides of her jaw and then
neck and those sides of her jaw and then you start to see that a simple smile can
you start to see that a simple smile can
you start to see that a simple smile can become kind of a symphony of different
become kind of a symphony of different
become kind of a symphony of different expressions depending on this nuanced
expressions depending on this nuanced
expressions depending on this nuanced interaction of other muscles so with
interaction of other muscles so with
interaction of other muscles so with speech you have about fifteen or sixteen
speech you have about fifteen or sixteen
speech you have about fifteen or sixteen pairs of muscles that are interacting
pairs of muscles that are interacting
pairs of muscles that are interacting with each other and in order to be able
with each other and in order to be able
with each other and in order to be able to show that you have to have a
to show that you have to have a
to show that you have to have a knowledge of anatomy in addition to a
knowledge of anatomy in addition to a
knowledge of anatomy in addition to a knowledge of psychology what I call the
knowledge of psychology what I call the
knowledge of psychology what I call the anatomy of emotion so here sorry I’m
anatomy of emotion so here sorry I’m
anatomy of emotion so here sorry I’m going to go back back here so here we
going to go back back here so here we
going to go back back here so here we are doing Reese
are doing Reese
are doing Reese here beating the dynamic graphics
here beating the dynamic graphics
here beating the dynamic graphics project at the University of Toronto on
project at the University of Toronto on
project at the University of Toronto on this
this
this it’s called jolly jaw and lip
it’s called jolly jaw and lip
it’s called jolly jaw and lip integration and what this involves is
integration and what this involves is
integration and what this involves is this very intricate what we’re doing
this very intricate what we’re doing
this very intricate what we’re doing here is simulating some pretty intricate
here is simulating some pretty intricate
here is simulating some pretty intricate connection between the way that we use
connection between the way that we use
connection between the way that we use our lips and our jaws
our lips and our jaws
our lips and our jaws okay so lips meaning facial muscles jaw
okay so lips meaning facial muscles jaw
okay so lips meaning facial muscles jaw meaning that bone called the mandible
meaning that bone called the mandible
meaning that bone called the mandible that goes up and down so I’ll show you a
that goes up and down so I’ll show you a
that goes up and down so I’ll show you a little bit of the difference between
little bit of the difference between
little bit of the difference between those two it should be a video coming up
those two it should be a video coming up
those two it should be a video coming up right two seconds here okay what you’re
right two seconds here okay what you’re
right two seconds here okay what you’re looking at is a traditional way of
looking at is a traditional way of
looking at is a traditional way of animating that animators would take a
animating that animators would take a
animating that animators would take a particular sound ah ah and so on those
particular sound ah ah and so on those
particular sound ah ah and so on those are little bits there are called
are little bits there are called
are little bits there are called phonemes and what you do if you’re
phonemes and what you do if you’re
phonemes and what you do if you’re animating is you map those phonemes to
animating is you map those phonemes to
animating is you map those phonemes to Visine that can work in basic like that
Visine that can work in basic like that
Visine that can work in basic like that Homer Simpson kind of animation but if
Homer Simpson kind of animation but if
Homer Simpson kind of animation but if you apply it to a realistic animation
you apply it to a realistic animation
you apply it to a realistic animation it’s not going to work five different
it’s not going to work five different
it’s not going to work five different ways of saying a phoneme called all
ways of saying a phoneme called all
ways of saying a phoneme called all alright that is the way that we talk we
alright that is the way that we talk we
alright that is the way that we talk we depending on our mood or psychology or
depending on our mood or psychology or
depending on our mood or psychology or speaking style we’re going to be using
speaking style we’re going to be using
speaking style we’re going to be using different variations in the red Nick
different variations in the red Nick
different variations in the red Nick this guy about fish hunt got want to do
this guy about fish hunt got want to do
this guy about fish hunt got want to do is using his jaw and not his lips this
is using his jaw and not his lips this
is using his jaw and not his lips this person Robert Wilson Peer Gynt Jerry
person Robert Wilson Peer Gynt Jerry
person Robert Wilson Peer Gynt Jerry Zacks the Caine Mutiny court-martial
Zacks the Caine Mutiny court-martial
Zacks the Caine Mutiny court-martial she’s using her lips without really
she’s using her lips without really
she’s using her lips without really using her jaw this is a kind of
using her jaw this is a kind of
using her jaw this is a kind of two-dimensional field which we call the
two-dimensional field which we call the
two-dimensional field which we call the Jolly filled jaw and lip in which in
Jolly filled jaw and lip in which in
Jolly filled jaw and lip in which in that field you have different speaking
that field you have different speaking
that field you have different speaking styles and if you’ve ever heard a
styles and if you’ve ever heard a
styles and if you’ve ever heard a telemarketer on the phone you know that
telemarketer on the phone you know that
telemarketer on the phone you know that that person is sounds artificially
that person is sounds artificially
that person is sounds artificially cheerful and she sounds up or he or she
cheerful and she sounds up or he or she
cheerful and she sounds up or he or she sounds artificially cheerful because
sounds artificially cheerful because
sounds artificially cheerful because she’s smiling as he’s talking and when
she’s smiling as he’s talking and when
she’s smiling as he’s talking and when you hear the voice without seeing the
you hear the voice without seeing the
you hear the voice without seeing the person you can tell that now what if we
person you can tell that now what if we
person you can tell that now what if we can glean that emotion or that speaking
can glean that emotion or that speaking
can glean that emotion or that speaking state automatically if we can glean that
state automatically if we can glean that
state automatically if we can glean that from only the signal of a person talking
from only the signal of a person talking
from only the signal of a person talking then we can give animation to a face to
then we can give animation to a face to
then we can give animation to a face to a character that’s got some actual
a character that’s got some actual
a character that’s got some actual humanity to it so that’s what we do here
humanity to it so that’s what we do here
humanity to it so that’s what we do here we’re taking
we’re taking
we’re taking a character or CG character and we
a character or CG character and we
a character or CG character and we adding that two-dimensional field that
adding that two-dimensional field that
adding that two-dimensional field that you were seeing before and we’re moving
you were seeing before and we’re moving
you were seeing before and we’re moving that around she’s seeing one phoneme ah
that around she’s seeing one phoneme ah
that around she’s seeing one phoneme ah but she’s seeing at all these different
but she’s seeing at all these different
but she’s seeing at all these different ways depending on where we put that what
ways depending on where we put that what
ways depending on where we put that what we call the Jolly joystick okay
we call the Jolly joystick okay
we call the Jolly joystick okay so this is how the sort of the
so this is how the sort of the
so this is how the sort of the cornerstone of how we’re simulating
cornerstone of how we’re simulating
cornerstone of how we’re simulating speech so well I’ll show you here it’s
speech so well I’ll show you here it’s
speech so well I’ll show you here it’s kind of a real-time demonstration of
kind of a real-time demonstration of
kind of a real-time demonstration of that in which a person will speak line
that in which a person will speak line
that in which a person will speak line from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene
from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene
from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded for
1 by William Shakespeare recorded for
1 by William Shakespeare recorded for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri their
librivox.org by kirsten ferreri their
librivox.org by kirsten ferreri their lines turn into text there you see it
lines turn into text there you see it
lines turn into text there you see it there the text file is saved out along
there the text file is saved out along
there the text file is saved out along with that audio file it’s read into Maya
with that audio file it’s read into Maya
with that audio file it’s read into Maya computer animation program and then
computer animation program and then
computer animation program and then there is a machine learning for what’s
there is a machine learning for what’s
there is a machine learning for what’s called forced alignment done quality of
called forced alignment done quality of
called forced alignment done quality of mercy from The Merchant of Venice act 4
mercy from The Merchant of Venice act 4
mercy from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded
scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded
scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri in
for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri in
for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri in that process I call it forced alignment
that process I call it forced alignment
that process I call it forced alignment times the speech with the character and
times the speech with the character and
times the speech with the character and with the actress and given the quality
with the actress and given the quality
with the actress and given the quality of the the emotional tone in that audio
of the the emotional tone in that audio
of the the emotional tone in that audio signal that carrot that character you
signal that carrot that character you
signal that carrot that character you saw there can talk with a fair degree of
saw there can talk with a fair degree of
saw there can talk with a fair degree of believability we think believability
believability we think believability
believability we think believability some humanity and emotion and expression
some humanity and emotion and expression
some humanity and emotion and expression and that is where we start to hopefully
and that is where we start to hopefully
and that is where we start to hopefully bridge that uncanny valley and to give a
bridge that uncanny valley and to give a
bridge that uncanny valley and to give a sense of real humanity even if the
sense of real humanity even if the
sense of real humanity even if the character is not real so I’m going to
character is not real so I’m going to
character is not real so I’m going to try a little test here we have a voice
try a little test here we have a voice
try a little test here we have a voice actress of named Patrice Goodman and she
actress of named Patrice Goodman and she
actress of named Patrice Goodman and she as recorded 30 seconds of dialogue and
as recorded 30 seconds of dialogue and
as recorded 30 seconds of dialogue and you’re going to see three variations of
you’re going to see three variations of
you’re going to see three variations of that head okay that you just saw before
that head okay that you just saw before
that head okay that you just saw before speaking one of them is motion captures
speaking one of them is motion captures
speaking one of them is motion captures performance capture where we’re
performance capture where we’re
performance capture where we’re literally taking Patrice’s of facial
literally taking Patrice’s of facial
literally taking Patrice’s of facial features and mapping them to a character
features and mapping them to a character
features and mapping them to a character performance capture one is keyframe
performance capture one is keyframe
performance capture one is keyframe animation the way that an animator from
animation the way that an animator from
animation the way that an animator from Walt Disney Max Fleischer to today would
Walt Disney Max Fleischer to today would
Walt Disney Max Fleischer to today would have done it and one of them is
have done it and one of them is
have done it and one of them is automated jolly
automated jolly
automated jolly speech lip-sync and I’d like you to put
speech lip-sync and I’d like you to put
speech lip-sync and I’d like you to put up one finger if you think that the
up one finger if you think that the
up one finger if you think that the automated one is the one on the left two
automated one is the one on the left two
automated one is the one on the left two fingers if it’s the middle and three
fingers if it’s the middle and three
fingers if it’s the middle and three fingers if it’s the one on the right
fingers if it’s the one on the right
fingers if it’s the one on the right here goes my mom would never I even went
here goes my mom would never I even went
here goes my mom would never I even went back east a couple of weeks before she
back east a couple of weeks before she
back east a couple of weeks before she died just to get her to hug me and I sat
died just to get her to hug me and I sat
died just to get her to hug me and I sat there for like three days and it was
there for like three days and it was
there for like three days and it was very frustrating watching her second
very frustrating watching her second
very frustrating watching her second guess that answers on Jeopardy while she
guess that answers on Jeopardy while she
guess that answers on Jeopardy while she dumped her tea biscuits into her tea and
dumped her tea biscuits into her tea and
dumped her tea biscuits into her tea and after about three days I couldn’t take
after about three days I couldn’t take
after about three days I couldn’t take it I got up I walked over and I hugged
it I got up I walked over and I hugged
it I got up I walked over and I hugged her okay so yeah one finger if you think
her okay so yeah one finger if you think
her okay so yeah one finger if you think the automated ones on the left too if it
the automated ones on the left too if it
the automated ones on the left too if it you think it’s the middle and three if
you think it’s the middle and three if
you think it’s the middle and three if it’s on the right I see one two three
it’s on the right I see one two three
it’s on the right I see one two three two one three there you guys are like
two one three there you guys are like
two one three there you guys are like statistically all over the place and
statistically all over the place and
statistically all over the place and when I see that statistically all over
when I see that statistically all over
when I see that statistically all over the place it means that that for the
the place it means that that for the
the place it means that that for the most part enlarged you guys don’t have
most part enlarged you guys don’t have
most part enlarged you guys don’t have any idea which is which so yeah it turns
any idea which is which so yeah it turns
any idea which is which so yeah it turns out it is the one on the right that is
out it is the one on the right that is
out it is the one on the right that is that is completely automated speech so
that is completely automated speech so
that is completely automated speech so it’s I mean it’s first time I’ve
it’s I mean it’s first time I’ve
it’s I mean it’s first time I’ve actually tried doing this with earth
actually tried doing this with earth
actually tried doing this with earth with an audience so that’s kind of good
with an audience so that’s kind of good
with an audience so that’s kind of good and telling it’s a bit of a Turing test
and telling it’s a bit of a Turing test
and telling it’s a bit of a Turing test a very small scaled version of a Turing
a very small scaled version of a Turing
a very small scaled version of a Turing test here but yeah through machine
test here but yeah through machine
test here but yeah through machine learned automated lip-synch were able to
learned automated lip-synch were able to
learned automated lip-synch were able to get some degree of humanity in our
get some degree of humanity in our
get some degree of humanity in our computer graphics characters and that is
computer graphics characters and that is
computer graphics characters and that is a big endeavor of ours here at
a big endeavor of ours here at
a big endeavor of ours here at University of Toronto to get past that
University of Toronto to get past that
University of Toronto to get past that gap in the uncanny valley to bring those
gap in the uncanny valley to bring those
gap in the uncanny valley to bring those characters to a place where we you can
characters to a place where we you can
characters to a place where we you can have some degree of trust
have some degree of trust
have some degree of trust it is about trust so yeah that’s what
it is about trust so yeah that’s what
it is about trust so yeah that’s what I’ve got to say thank you very very much
I’ve got to say thank you very very much
I’ve got to say thank you very very much you
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