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yeah I’ve been working with a team of

yeah I’ve been working with a team of researchers at the University of Toronto

researchers at the University of Toronto

researchers at the University of Toronto about two years now and see if I can get

about two years now and see if I can get

about two years now and see if I can get this working yes we have been

this working yes we have been

this working yes we have been concentrating on animation character

concentrating on animation character

concentrating on animation character animation and in particular the really

animation and in particular the really

animation and in particular the really what to us is the most important part of

what to us is the most important part of

what to us is the most important part of that which is the human face in any if

that which is the human face in any if

that which is the human face in any if you look at any given movie for example

you look at any given movie for example

you look at any given movie for example you’ll see probably about 70 to 80

you’ll see probably about 70 to 80

you’ll see probably about 70 to 80 percent of the shops being closed up of

percent of the shops being closed up of

percent of the shops being closed up of human face and in animated films getting

human face and in animated films getting

human face and in animated films getting that human face right whether it’s a

that human face right whether it’s a

that human face right whether it’s a human character or a human-like

human character or a human-like

human character or a human-like character is X will either make or break

character is X will either make or break

character is X will either make or break your belief believing in the film and

your belief believing in the film and

your belief believing in the film and often that is a difficult test where

often that is a difficult test where

often that is a difficult test where filmmakers actually fail to do that and

filmmakers actually fail to do that and

filmmakers actually fail to do that and so a so intense is our acuity in seeing

so a so intense is our acuity in seeing

so a so intense is our acuity in seeing human faces that for example I’m gonna

human faces that for example I’m gonna

human faces that for example I’m gonna give you a pop quiz here two faces here

give you a pop quiz here two faces here

give you a pop quiz here two faces here one of them belongs to the 44th

one of them belongs to the 44th

one of them belongs to the 44th President of the United States Barack

President of the United States Barack

President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama raise you’re gonna say

Hussein Obama raise you’re gonna say

Hussein Obama raise you’re gonna say like look at you here raise your left

like look at you here raise your left

like look at you here raise your left hand if you think it’s the guy on the

hand if you think it’s the guy on the

hand if you think it’s the guy on the left your right hand if you think it’s a

left your right hand if you think it’s a

left your right hand if you think it’s a guy on the right okay so I’m looking

guy on the right okay so I’m looking

guy on the right okay so I’m looking m’kay so I’m saying pretty much all

m’kay so I’m saying pretty much all

m’kay so I’m saying pretty much all right hands and they all went up pretty

right hands and they all went up pretty

right hands and they all went up pretty quickly so yeah you’re correct that is

quickly so yeah you’re correct that is

quickly so yeah you’re correct that is Barack Hussein Obama on the right the

Barack Hussein Obama on the right the

Barack Hussein Obama on the right the guy on the Left fellow named Luis Ortiz

guy on the Left fellow named Luis Ortiz

guy on the Left fellow named Luis Ortiz otherwise known as Bronx Obama if you go

otherwise known as Bronx Obama if you go

otherwise known as Bronx Obama if you go to the New York Times website and type

to the New York Times website and type

to the New York Times website and type in his name you will see a documentary

in his name you will see a documentary

in his name you will see a documentary on Luis Ortiz he’s famous obviously more

on Luis Ortiz he’s famous obviously more

on Luis Ortiz he’s famous obviously more famous when Obama was president as being

famous when Obama was president as being

famous when Obama was president as being the guy the go-to guy of any guy in the

the guy the go-to guy of any guy in the

the guy the go-to guy of any guy in the world who looks like Barack Obama now

world who looks like Barack Obama now

world who looks like Barack Obama now think about that there are seven billion

think about that there are seven billion

think about that there are seven billion people on this planet and this guy this

people on this planet and this guy this

people on this planet and this guy this one guy here Louis Ortiz is the guy who

one guy here Louis Ortiz is the guy who

one guy here Louis Ortiz is the guy who looks the most like Barack Obama and yet

looks the most like Barack Obama and yet

looks the most like Barack Obama and yet I saw right hands go up within a half a

I saw right hands go up within a half a

I saw right hands go up within a half a second of my asking that question what

second of my asking that question what

second of my asking that question what is it that separates or distinguishes

is it that separates or distinguishes

is it that separates or distinguishes Luis Ortiz from Barack Obama I think it

Luis Ortiz from Barack Obama I think it

Luis Ortiz from Barack Obama I think it would be kind of hard pressed to tell me

would be kind of hard pressed to tell me

would be kind of hard pressed to tell me the actual differences but instinctively

the actual differences but instinctively

the actual differences but instinctively you knew the difference and this is a

you knew the difference and this is a

you knew the difference and this is a testimonial to our ability to a part of

testimonial to our ability to a part of

testimonial to our ability to a part of our brain which is dedicated from birth

our brain which is dedicated from birth

our brain which is dedicated from birth to being able to distinguish one face

to being able to distinguish one face

to being able to distinguish one face from another a familiar person from a

from another a familiar person from a

from another a familiar person from a stranger or one expression from another

stranger or one expression from another

stranger or one expression from another and when you’re an animator you totally

and when you’re an animator you totally

and when you’re an animator you totally have to get that right and if you fail

have to get that right and if you fail

have to get that right and if you fail to get it right even by a little bit you

to get it right even by a little bit you

to get it right even by a little bit you fall into this thing that’s called the

fall into this thing that’s called the

fall into this thing that’s called the uncanny valley

uncanny valley

uncanny valley so the uncanny valley is a two

so the uncanny valley is a two

so the uncanny valley is a two dimensional graph in which horizontal

dimensional graph in which horizontal

dimensional graph in which horizontal axis is realistic vertical axis is

axis is realistic vertical axis is

axis is realistic vertical axis is trustworthy you would like to think that

trustworthy you would like to think that

trustworthy you would like to think that those things are interrelated that they

those things are interrelated that they

those things are interrelated that they go hand-in-hand for example if you take

go hand-in-hand for example if you take

go hand-in-hand for example if you take a very simple character who’s not very

a very simple character who’s not very

a very simple character who’s not very realistic

realistic

realistic like say this guy I said I’m gonna punch

like say this guy I said I’m gonna punch

like say this guy I said I’m gonna punch you and come hell or high water I wait a

you and come hell or high water I wait a

you and come hell or high water I wait a minute ice-cream-truck okay so this dude

minute ice-cream-truck okay so this dude

minute ice-cream-truck okay so this dude is very simply drawn he’s not very

is very simply drawn he’s not very

is very simply drawn he’s not very realistic and you know we can you can

realistic and you know we can you can

realistic and you know we can you can star in the Simpsons and tell some

star in the Simpsons and tell some

star in the Simpsons and tell some really simple funny stories and yeah we

really simple funny stories and yeah we

really simple funny stories and yeah we buy him on that level going further to

buy him on that level going further to

buy him on that level going further to the right we can get a little more

the right we can get a little more

the right we can get a little more complex run away I in the woods anywhere

complex run away I in the woods anywhere

complex run away I in the woods anywhere [Music]

[Music]

[Music] okay snow-white is literally more

okay snow-white is literally more

okay snow-white is literally more fleshed-out she’s got really great

fleshed-out she’s got really great

fleshed-out she’s got really great human-like gestures simple and stylized

human-like gestures simple and stylized

human-like gestures simple and stylized but we can tell more complex stories

but we can tell more complex stories

but we can tell more complex stories with snow white then we can get even

with snow white then we can get even

with snow white then we can get even more complex going further to the right

more complex going further to the right

more complex going further to the right school was great

school was great

school was great all right Riley is everything okay so

all right Riley is everything okay so

all right Riley is everything okay so yeah that’s Pixar film inside out and

yeah that’s Pixar film inside out and

yeah that’s Pixar film inside out and yeah you what you see there’s a

yeah you what you see there’s a

yeah you what you see there’s a realistic shader or of texture on the

realistic shader or of texture on the

realistic shader or of texture on the purr on her skin Riley’s skin you see

purr on her skin Riley’s skin you see

purr on her skin Riley’s skin you see really shiny hair it looks realistic and

really shiny hair it looks realistic and

really shiny hair it looks realistic and you see a expression she does that I

you see a expression she does that I

you see a expression she does that I roll and that’s what we humans do and

roll and that’s what we humans do and

roll and that’s what we humans do and Pixar has made an incredible reputation

Pixar has made an incredible reputation

Pixar has made an incredible reputation of being not just realistic

of being not just realistic

of being not just realistic but believable so let’s skip ahead to

but believable so let’s skip ahead to

but believable so let’s skip ahead to the all complete all the way over to the

the all complete all the way over to the

the all complete all the way over to the right and we see absolute realism like

right and we see absolute realism like

right and we see absolute realism like this dude I’m totally real and totally

this dude I’m totally real and totally

this dude I’m totally real and totally human you can trust me

human you can trust me

human you can trust me yeah totally trustworthy right because

yeah totally trustworthy right because

yeah totally trustworthy right because he’s got real skin and he’s totally real

he’s got real skin and he’s totally real

he’s got real skin and he’s totally real right but between the Pixar character

right but between the Pixar character

right but between the Pixar character and the dude on the right there’s this

and the dude on the right there’s this

and the dude on the right there’s this weird phenomena that happens in which

weird phenomena that happens in which

weird phenomena that happens in which characters are so realistic that they

characters are so realistic that they

characters are so realistic that they mimic reality but they’re not quite real

mimic reality but they’re not quite real

mimic reality but they’re not quite real like this thing I do rock eternity

like this thing I do rock eternity

like this thing I do rock eternity you like zombies zombies eat brains mom

you like zombies zombies eat brains mom

you like zombies zombies eat brains mom no one likes zombies they’re an

no one likes zombies they’re an

no one likes zombies they’re an abomination I am a social companion I

abomination I am a social companion I

abomination I am a social companion I can speak of emotions that I can

can speak of emotions that I can

can speak of emotions that I can recognize people she’s singing I feel

recognize people she’s singing I feel

recognize people she’s singing I feel fantastic hey hey hey that was there was

fantastic hey hey hey that was there was

fantastic hey hey hey that was there was a video that went viral a few years ago

a video that went viral a few years ago

a video that went viral a few years ago and no it’s kind of terrifying right

and no it’s kind of terrifying right

and no it’s kind of terrifying right something that kind of fits into what

something that kind of fits into what

something that kind of fits into what Steve was talking about earlier these

Steve was talking about earlier these

Steve was talking about earlier these characters are human-like but you don’t

characters are human-like but you don’t

characters are human-like but you don’t really get the impression that they’ve

really get the impression that they’ve

really get the impression that they’ve got an imagination that they’ve got

got an imagination that they’ve got

got an imagination that they’ve got creativity in any real sense that Steve

creativity in any real sense that Steve

creativity in any real sense that Steve was trying to sort of expose us to here

was trying to sort of expose us to here

was trying to sort of expose us to here and that’s the problem that there’s

and that’s the problem that there’s

and that’s the problem that there’s realism without reality and it takes

realism without reality and it takes

realism without reality and it takes away trust and believability

away trust and believability

away trust and believability and where that really happens where that

and where that really happens where that

and where that really happens where that trust gets gets compromised is with

trust gets gets compromised is with

trust gets gets compromised is with speech because speech hat carries a lot

speech because speech hat carries a lot

speech because speech hat carries a lot of the emotion and a lot of the

of the emotion and a lot of the

of the emotion and a lot of the intelligence and the imagination that we

intelligence and the imagination that we

intelligence and the imagination that we as humans show when we’re expressing

as humans show when we’re expressing

as humans show when we’re expressing ourselves through words now what will

ourselves through words now what will

ourselves through words now what will sometimes happen what researchers have

sometimes happen what researchers have

sometimes happen what researchers have been working on has been a realistic

been working on has been a realistic

been working on has been a realistic kind of speech that can be generated and

kind of speech that can be generated and

kind of speech that can be generated and put onto CGI characters whether through

put onto CGI characters whether through

put onto CGI characters whether through artificially intelligent derived speech

artificially intelligent derived speech

artificially intelligent derived speech generation or through an actor actually

generation or through an actor actually

generation or through an actor actually voicing these words and we’ve come a

voicing these words and we’ve come a

voicing these words and we’ve come a fair amount of on this but we’ve have

fair amount of on this but we’ve have

fair amount of on this but we’ve have not achieved the kind of believability

not achieved the kind of believability

not achieved the kind of believability that I would like to see in that I think

that I would like to see in that I think

that I would like to see in that I think that would be share with other people

that would be share with other people

that would be share with other people who are dealing with these characters

who are dealing with these characters

who are dealing with these characters this one I’ll show you here they are son

this one I’ll show you here they are son

this one I’ll show you here they are son una fecha parlante molto Giovanni Corina

una fecha parlante molto Giovanni Corina

una fecha parlante molto Giovanni Corina Poe so a serie de barro molto triste

Poe so a serie de barro molto triste

Poe so a serie de barro molto triste monkey dombarris Pavan Tata with

monkey dombarris Pavan Tata with

monkey dombarris Pavan Tata with voice-o-matic great quality lipsync

voice-o-matic great quality lipsync

voice-o-matic great quality lipsync Ennis okay so there’s yet certainly the

Ennis okay so there’s yet certainly the

Ennis okay so there’s yet certainly the semblance end of speech and those

semblance end of speech and those

semblance end of speech and those characters are properly articulating but

characters are properly articulating but

characters are properly articulating but one can see that it’s not really quite

one can see that it’s not really quite

one can see that it’s not really quite there and the reason it’s not going

there and the reason it’s not going

there and the reason it’s not going there is because we as human beings have

there is because we as human beings have

there is because we as human beings have a great deal of complexity in our faces

a great deal of complexity in our faces

a great deal of complexity in our faces in the machinery of our faces that allow

in the machinery of our faces that allow

in the machinery of our faces that allow us to do some pretty nuanced and very

us to do some pretty nuanced and very

us to do some pretty nuanced and very precise stuff with our lips and our jaws

precise stuff with our lips and our jaws

precise stuff with our lips and our jaws that gives the human-like quality to

that gives the human-like quality to

that gives the human-like quality to speech so one of the things that I do is

speech so one of the things that I do is

speech so one of the things that I do is to teach about the mission that

to teach about the mission that

to teach about the mission that machinery of the face and how that cut

machinery of the face and how that cut

machinery of the face and how that cut ties in to the psychology behind the

ties in to the psychology behind the

ties in to the psychology behind the face so I do a master class called

face so I do a master class called

face so I do a master class called making faces I was just in Sweden

making faces I was just in Sweden

making faces I was just in Sweden teaching this last week I’m going to

teaching this last week I’m going to

teaching this last week I’m going to bring you through like two seconds of

bring you through like two seconds of

bring you through like two seconds of what is otherwise a one-week course

what is otherwise a one-week course

what is otherwise a one-week course we’re made up of muscles and our faces

we’re made up of muscles and our faces

we’re made up of muscles and our faces in particular have dozens of these very

in particular have dozens of these very

in particular have dozens of these very intricately interconnected muscles when

intricately interconnected muscles when

intricately interconnected muscles when we smile as this character is doing here

we smile as this character is doing here

we smile as this character is doing here we’re using two of those muscles on

we’re using two of those muscles on

we’re using two of those muscles on either side of our cheeks are called

either side of our cheeks are called

either side of our cheeks are called zygomatic major muscles but that is as a

zygomatic major muscles but that is as a

zygomatic major muscles but that is as a basic smile kind of putting her into the

basic smile kind of putting her into the

basic smile kind of putting her into the uncanny valley it’s a little bit creepy

uncanny valley it’s a little bit creepy

uncanny valley it’s a little bit creepy in order for a smile to have the kind of

in order for a smile to have the kind of

in order for a smile to have the kind of nuances that human beings have you’ve

nuances that human beings have you’ve

nuances that human beings have you’ve got to add a bunch of other muscles for

got to add a bunch of other muscles for

got to add a bunch of other muscles for example muscle controlling the pushing

example muscle controlling the pushing

example muscle controlling the pushing on the lower eyelids of your eyes is

on the lower eyelids of your eyes is

on the lower eyelids of your eyes is what gives a sense of that she’s

what gives a sense of that she’s

what gives a sense of that she’s actually smiling through her whole head

actually smiling through her whole head

actually smiling through her whole head not just her mouth you can add a bunch

not just her mouth you can add a bunch

not just her mouth you can add a bunch of other muscles like going through

of other muscles like going through

of other muscles like going through lower lip muscles now she’s grinning we

lower lip muscles now she’s grinning we

lower lip muscles now she’s grinning we can add a little bit of upper lip muscle

can add a little bit of upper lip muscle

can add a little bit of upper lip muscle now she’s kind of more genuinely

now she’s kind of more genuinely

now she’s kind of more genuinely grinning we can add subtext to her face

grinning we can add subtext to her face

grinning we can add subtext to her face through these other muscles like in her

through these other muscles like in her

through these other muscles like in her neck and those sides of her jaw and then

neck and those sides of her jaw and then

neck and those sides of her jaw and then you start to see that a simple smile can

you start to see that a simple smile can

you start to see that a simple smile can become kind of a symphony of different

become kind of a symphony of different

become kind of a symphony of different expressions depending on this nuanced

expressions depending on this nuanced

expressions depending on this nuanced interaction of other muscles so with

interaction of other muscles so with

interaction of other muscles so with speech you have about fifteen or sixteen

speech you have about fifteen or sixteen

speech you have about fifteen or sixteen pairs of muscles that are interacting

pairs of muscles that are interacting

pairs of muscles that are interacting with each other and in order to be able

with each other and in order to be able

with each other and in order to be able to show that you have to have a

to show that you have to have a

to show that you have to have a knowledge of anatomy in addition to a

knowledge of anatomy in addition to a

knowledge of anatomy in addition to a knowledge of psychology what I call the

knowledge of psychology what I call the

knowledge of psychology what I call the anatomy of emotion so here sorry I’m

anatomy of emotion so here sorry I’m

anatomy of emotion so here sorry I’m going to go back back here so here we

going to go back back here so here we

going to go back back here so here we are doing Reese

are doing Reese

are doing Reese here beating the dynamic graphics

here beating the dynamic graphics

here beating the dynamic graphics project at the University of Toronto on

project at the University of Toronto on

project at the University of Toronto on this

this

this it’s called jolly jaw and lip

it’s called jolly jaw and lip

it’s called jolly jaw and lip integration and what this involves is

integration and what this involves is

integration and what this involves is this very intricate what we’re doing

this very intricate what we’re doing

this very intricate what we’re doing here is simulating some pretty intricate

here is simulating some pretty intricate

here is simulating some pretty intricate connection between the way that we use

connection between the way that we use

connection between the way that we use our lips and our jaws

our lips and our jaws

our lips and our jaws okay so lips meaning facial muscles jaw

okay so lips meaning facial muscles jaw

okay so lips meaning facial muscles jaw meaning that bone called the mandible

meaning that bone called the mandible

meaning that bone called the mandible that goes up and down so I’ll show you a

that goes up and down so I’ll show you a

that goes up and down so I’ll show you a little bit of the difference between

little bit of the difference between

little bit of the difference between those two it should be a video coming up

those two it should be a video coming up

those two it should be a video coming up right two seconds here okay what you’re

right two seconds here okay what you’re

right two seconds here okay what you’re looking at is a traditional way of

looking at is a traditional way of

looking at is a traditional way of animating that animators would take a

animating that animators would take a

animating that animators would take a particular sound ah ah and so on those

particular sound ah ah and so on those

particular sound ah ah and so on those are little bits there are called

are little bits there are called

are little bits there are called phonemes and what you do if you’re

phonemes and what you do if you’re

phonemes and what you do if you’re animating is you map those phonemes to

animating is you map those phonemes to

animating is you map those phonemes to Visine that can work in basic like that

Visine that can work in basic like that

Visine that can work in basic like that Homer Simpson kind of animation but if

Homer Simpson kind of animation but if

Homer Simpson kind of animation but if you apply it to a realistic animation

you apply it to a realistic animation

you apply it to a realistic animation it’s not going to work five different

it’s not going to work five different

it’s not going to work five different ways of saying a phoneme called all

ways of saying a phoneme called all

ways of saying a phoneme called all alright that is the way that we talk we

alright that is the way that we talk we

alright that is the way that we talk we depending on our mood or psychology or

depending on our mood or psychology or

depending on our mood or psychology or speaking style we’re going to be using

speaking style we’re going to be using

speaking style we’re going to be using different variations in the red Nick

different variations in the red Nick

different variations in the red Nick this guy about fish hunt got want to do

this guy about fish hunt got want to do

this guy about fish hunt got want to do is using his jaw and not his lips this

is using his jaw and not his lips this

is using his jaw and not his lips this person Robert Wilson Peer Gynt Jerry

person Robert Wilson Peer Gynt Jerry

person Robert Wilson Peer Gynt Jerry Zacks the Caine Mutiny court-martial

Zacks the Caine Mutiny court-martial

Zacks the Caine Mutiny court-martial she’s using her lips without really

she’s using her lips without really

she’s using her lips without really using her jaw this is a kind of

using her jaw this is a kind of

using her jaw this is a kind of two-dimensional field which we call the

two-dimensional field which we call the

two-dimensional field which we call the Jolly filled jaw and lip in which in

Jolly filled jaw and lip in which in

Jolly filled jaw and lip in which in that field you have different speaking

that field you have different speaking

that field you have different speaking styles and if you’ve ever heard a

styles and if you’ve ever heard a

styles and if you’ve ever heard a telemarketer on the phone you know that

telemarketer on the phone you know that

telemarketer on the phone you know that that person is sounds artificially

that person is sounds artificially

that person is sounds artificially cheerful and she sounds up or he or she

cheerful and she sounds up or he or she

cheerful and she sounds up or he or she sounds artificially cheerful because

sounds artificially cheerful because

sounds artificially cheerful because she’s smiling as he’s talking and when

she’s smiling as he’s talking and when

she’s smiling as he’s talking and when you hear the voice without seeing the

you hear the voice without seeing the

you hear the voice without seeing the person you can tell that now what if we

person you can tell that now what if we

person you can tell that now what if we can glean that emotion or that speaking

can glean that emotion or that speaking

can glean that emotion or that speaking state automatically if we can glean that

state automatically if we can glean that

state automatically if we can glean that from only the signal of a person talking

from only the signal of a person talking

from only the signal of a person talking then we can give animation to a face to

then we can give animation to a face to

then we can give animation to a face to a character that’s got some actual

a character that’s got some actual

a character that’s got some actual humanity to it so that’s what we do here

humanity to it so that’s what we do here

humanity to it so that’s what we do here we’re taking

we’re taking

we’re taking a character or CG character and we

a character or CG character and we

a character or CG character and we adding that two-dimensional field that

adding that two-dimensional field that

adding that two-dimensional field that you were seeing before and we’re moving

you were seeing before and we’re moving

you were seeing before and we’re moving that around she’s seeing one phoneme ah

that around she’s seeing one phoneme ah

that around she’s seeing one phoneme ah but she’s seeing at all these different

but she’s seeing at all these different

but she’s seeing at all these different ways depending on where we put that what

ways depending on where we put that what

ways depending on where we put that what we call the Jolly joystick okay

we call the Jolly joystick okay

we call the Jolly joystick okay so this is how the sort of the

so this is how the sort of the

so this is how the sort of the cornerstone of how we’re simulating

cornerstone of how we’re simulating

cornerstone of how we’re simulating speech so well I’ll show you here it’s

speech so well I’ll show you here it’s

speech so well I’ll show you here it’s kind of a real-time demonstration of

kind of a real-time demonstration of

kind of a real-time demonstration of that in which a person will speak line

that in which a person will speak line

that in which a person will speak line from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene

from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene

from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded for

1 by William Shakespeare recorded for

1 by William Shakespeare recorded for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri their

librivox.org by kirsten ferreri their

librivox.org by kirsten ferreri their lines turn into text there you see it

lines turn into text there you see it

lines turn into text there you see it there the text file is saved out along

there the text file is saved out along

there the text file is saved out along with that audio file it’s read into Maya

with that audio file it’s read into Maya

with that audio file it’s read into Maya computer animation program and then

computer animation program and then

computer animation program and then there is a machine learning for what’s

there is a machine learning for what’s

there is a machine learning for what’s called forced alignment done quality of

called forced alignment done quality of

called forced alignment done quality of mercy from The Merchant of Venice act 4

mercy from The Merchant of Venice act 4

mercy from The Merchant of Venice act 4 scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded

scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded

scene 1 by William Shakespeare recorded for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri in

for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri in

for librivox.org by kirsten ferreri in that process I call it forced alignment

that process I call it forced alignment

that process I call it forced alignment times the speech with the character and

times the speech with the character and

times the speech with the character and with the actress and given the quality

with the actress and given the quality

with the actress and given the quality of the the emotional tone in that audio

of the the emotional tone in that audio

of the the emotional tone in that audio signal that carrot that character you

signal that carrot that character you

signal that carrot that character you saw there can talk with a fair degree of

saw there can talk with a fair degree of

saw there can talk with a fair degree of believability we think believability

believability we think believability

believability we think believability some humanity and emotion and expression

some humanity and emotion and expression

some humanity and emotion and expression and that is where we start to hopefully

and that is where we start to hopefully

and that is where we start to hopefully bridge that uncanny valley and to give a

bridge that uncanny valley and to give a

bridge that uncanny valley and to give a sense of real humanity even if the

sense of real humanity even if the

sense of real humanity even if the character is not real so I’m going to

character is not real so I’m going to

character is not real so I’m going to try a little test here we have a voice

try a little test here we have a voice

try a little test here we have a voice actress of named Patrice Goodman and she

actress of named Patrice Goodman and she

actress of named Patrice Goodman and she as recorded 30 seconds of dialogue and

as recorded 30 seconds of dialogue and

as recorded 30 seconds of dialogue and you’re going to see three variations of

you’re going to see three variations of

you’re going to see three variations of that head okay that you just saw before

that head okay that you just saw before

that head okay that you just saw before speaking one of them is motion captures

speaking one of them is motion captures

speaking one of them is motion captures performance capture where we’re

performance capture where we’re

performance capture where we’re literally taking Patrice’s of facial

literally taking Patrice’s of facial

literally taking Patrice’s of facial features and mapping them to a character

features and mapping them to a character

features and mapping them to a character performance capture one is keyframe

performance capture one is keyframe

performance capture one is keyframe animation the way that an animator from

animation the way that an animator from

animation the way that an animator from Walt Disney Max Fleischer to today would

Walt Disney Max Fleischer to today would

Walt Disney Max Fleischer to today would have done it and one of them is

have done it and one of them is

have done it and one of them is automated jolly

automated jolly

automated jolly speech lip-sync and I’d like you to put

speech lip-sync and I’d like you to put

speech lip-sync and I’d like you to put up one finger if you think that the

up one finger if you think that the

up one finger if you think that the automated one is the one on the left two

automated one is the one on the left two

automated one is the one on the left two fingers if it’s the middle and three

fingers if it’s the middle and three

fingers if it’s the middle and three fingers if it’s the one on the right

fingers if it’s the one on the right

fingers if it’s the one on the right here goes my mom would never I even went

here goes my mom would never I even went

here goes my mom would never I even went back east a couple of weeks before she

back east a couple of weeks before she

back east a couple of weeks before she died just to get her to hug me and I sat

died just to get her to hug me and I sat

died just to get her to hug me and I sat there for like three days and it was

there for like three days and it was

there for like three days and it was very frustrating watching her second

very frustrating watching her second

very frustrating watching her second guess that answers on Jeopardy while she

guess that answers on Jeopardy while she

guess that answers on Jeopardy while she dumped her tea biscuits into her tea and

dumped her tea biscuits into her tea and

dumped her tea biscuits into her tea and after about three days I couldn’t take

after about three days I couldn’t take

after about three days I couldn’t take it I got up I walked over and I hugged

it I got up I walked over and I hugged

it I got up I walked over and I hugged her okay so yeah one finger if you think

her okay so yeah one finger if you think

her okay so yeah one finger if you think the automated ones on the left too if it

the automated ones on the left too if it

the automated ones on the left too if it you think it’s the middle and three if

you think it’s the middle and three if

you think it’s the middle and three if it’s on the right I see one two three

it’s on the right I see one two three

it’s on the right I see one two three two one three there you guys are like

two one three there you guys are like

two one three there you guys are like statistically all over the place and

statistically all over the place and

statistically all over the place and when I see that statistically all over

when I see that statistically all over

when I see that statistically all over the place it means that that for the

the place it means that that for the

the place it means that that for the most part enlarged you guys don’t have

most part enlarged you guys don’t have

most part enlarged you guys don’t have any idea which is which so yeah it turns

any idea which is which so yeah it turns

any idea which is which so yeah it turns out it is the one on the right that is

out it is the one on the right that is

out it is the one on the right that is that is completely automated speech so

that is completely automated speech so

that is completely automated speech so it’s I mean it’s first time I’ve

it’s I mean it’s first time I’ve

it’s I mean it’s first time I’ve actually tried doing this with earth

actually tried doing this with earth

actually tried doing this with earth with an audience so that’s kind of good

with an audience so that’s kind of good

with an audience so that’s kind of good and telling it’s a bit of a Turing test

and telling it’s a bit of a Turing test

and telling it’s a bit of a Turing test a very small scaled version of a Turing

a very small scaled version of a Turing

a very small scaled version of a Turing test here but yeah through machine

test here but yeah through machine

test here but yeah through machine learned automated lip-synch were able to

learned automated lip-synch were able to

learned automated lip-synch were able to get some degree of humanity in our

get some degree of humanity in our

get some degree of humanity in our computer graphics characters and that is

computer graphics characters and that is

computer graphics characters and that is a big endeavor of ours here at

a big endeavor of ours here at

a big endeavor of ours here at University of Toronto to get past that

University of Toronto to get past that

University of Toronto to get past that gap in the uncanny valley to bring those

gap in the uncanny valley to bring those

gap in the uncanny valley to bring those characters to a place where we you can

characters to a place where we you can

characters to a place where we you can have some degree of trust

have some degree of trust

have some degree of trust it is about trust so yeah that’s what

it is about trust so yeah that’s what

it is about trust so yeah that’s what I’ve got to say thank you very very much

I’ve got to say thank you very very much

I’ve got to say thank you very very much you

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