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The solution to indigenous disadvantage | Kia Dowell | TEDxPerth


what I’m about to share will not

what I’m about to share will not surprise our nation’s most prominent

surprise our nation’s most prominent

surprise our nation’s most prominent Aboriginal leaders or advocates and

Aboriginal leaders or advocates and

Aboriginal leaders or advocates and today I simply invite you to pay close

today I simply invite you to pay close

today I simply invite you to pay close attention to your own reaction when you

attention to your own reaction when you

attention to your own reaction when you learn of the following Australia has

learn of the following Australia has

learn of the following Australia has created a multi-billion dollar industry

created a multi-billion dollar industry

created a multi-billion dollar industry also back of Aboriginal disadvantaged

also back of Aboriginal disadvantaged

also back of Aboriginal disadvantaged and if that sounds alarmist I ask you to

and if that sounds alarmist I ask you to

and if that sounds alarmist I ask you to pay attention to your reaction when I

pay attention to your reaction when I

pay attention to your reaction when I share this in just one year 5.9 billion

share this in just one year 5.9 billion

share this in just one year 5.9 billion dollars of our money was spent in the

dollars of our money was spent in the

dollars of our money was spent in the portfolio of Aboriginal Affairs I say

portfolio of Aboriginal Affairs I say

portfolio of Aboriginal Affairs I say the portfolio of Aboriginal Affairs

the portfolio of Aboriginal Affairs

the portfolio of Aboriginal Affairs because it’s important to remember that

because it’s important to remember that

because it’s important to remember that this money was not directed into

this money was not directed into

this money was not directed into communities and the people who have the

communities and the people who have the

communities and the people who have the most need as a taxpayer I ask you this

most need as a taxpayer I ask you this

most need as a taxpayer I ask you this do you have confidence knowing that this

do you have confidence knowing that this

do you have confidence knowing that this multi-billion dollar industry is using

multi-billion dollar industry is using

multi-billion dollar industry is using money in a way that is misdirected do

money in a way that is misdirected do

money in a way that is misdirected do you feel like this 5.9 billion dollar

you feel like this 5.9 billion dollar

you feel like this 5.9 billion dollar industry should be held accountable for

industry should be held accountable for

industry should be held accountable for not delivering the outcomes that are

not delivering the outcomes that are

not delivering the outcomes that are required would you be surprised to learn

required would you be surprised to learn

required would you be surprised to learn that very few of their schemes are

that very few of their schemes are

that very few of their schemes are evaluated properly take for example the

evaluated properly take for example the

evaluated properly take for example the federal government’s initiative on

federal government’s initiative on

federal government’s initiative on indigenous homeownership

indigenous homeownership

indigenous homeownership it’s designed to increase homeownership

it’s designed to increase homeownership

it’s designed to increase homeownership amongst indigenous population what if I

amongst indigenous population what if I

amongst indigenous population what if I told you that in one year 75 loans were

told you that in one year 75 loans were

told you that in one year 75 loans were administered could you guess how many

administered could you guess how many

administered could you guess how many people were employed to administer those

people were employed to administer those

people were employed to administer those 75 loans 75 incredible right so when we

75 loans 75 incredible right so when we

75 loans 75 incredible right so when we ask ourselves the question how is this

ask ourselves the question how is this

ask ourselves the question how is this model effective what answers are we left

model effective what answers are we left

model effective what answers are we left to consider would your answer change if

to consider would your answer change if

to consider would your answer change if you knew that half of those loans that

you knew that half of those loans that

you knew that half of those loans that were approved could actually be

were approved could actually be

were approved could actually be delivered by US mainstream mortgage

delivered by US mainstream mortgage

delivered by US mainstream mortgage lender so when we think about the

lender so when we think about the

lender so when we think about the numbers all of a sudden seventy-five

numbers all of a sudden seventy-five

numbers all of a sudden seventy-five people employed to administer

people employed to administer

people employed to administer seventy-five loans becomes 75 people

seventy-five loans becomes 75 people

seventy-five loans becomes 75 people employed to administer about 36 lanes

employed to administer about 36 lanes

employed to administer about 36 lanes there are thousands of programs designed

there are thousands of programs designed

there are thousands of programs designed in Australia under the purpose and with

in Australia under the purpose and with

in Australia under the purpose and with the intention of addressing some form of

the intention of addressing some form of

the intention of addressing some form of Aboriginal disadvantaged unfortunately

Aboriginal disadvantaged unfortunately

Aboriginal disadvantaged unfortunately just one hundred out of every 1000

just one hundred out of every 1000

just one hundred out of every 1000 programs are actually evaluated against

programs are actually evaluated against

programs are actually evaluated against those stated purposes if that’s the case

those stated purposes if that’s the case

those stated purposes if that’s the case how can we be sure that they’re working

how can we be sure that they’re working

how can we be sure that they’re working and what can we do as Australians to

and what can we do as Australians to

and what can we do as Australians to make sure that the decision-makers who

make sure that the decision-makers who

make sure that the decision-makers who are directing this money and let’s face

are directing this money and let’s face

are directing this money and let’s face it paternalistic policies how can we

it paternalistic policies how can we

it paternalistic policies how can we make them accountable

make them accountable

make them accountable why are we so compliant and so ok with

why are we so compliant and so ok with

why are we so compliant and so ok with maintaining the status quo of a

maintaining the status quo of a

maintaining the status quo of a multi-billion dollar industry that

multi-billion dollar industry that

multi-billion dollar industry that continues to benefit on the back of

continues to benefit on the back of

continues to benefit on the back of Aboriginal disadvantaged I’m going to

Aboriginal disadvantaged I’m going to

Aboriginal disadvantaged I’m going to suggest that the mistake we made is also

suggest that the mistake we made is also

suggest that the mistake we made is also one that I’ve made in my speech so far

one that I’ve made in my speech so far

one that I’ve made in my speech so far we have seen the issue from a very

we have seen the issue from a very

we have seen the issue from a very top-down perspective some may call this

top-down perspective some may call this

top-down perspective some may call this paternalistic when we do this what we

paternalistic when we do this what we

paternalistic when we do this what we fail to remember is that we also ignore

fail to remember is that we also ignore

fail to remember is that we also ignore people’s stories and in failing to

people’s stories and in failing to

people’s stories and in failing to acknowledge people’s stories we also

acknowledge people’s stories we also

acknowledge people’s stories we also fail to acknowledge their needs

fail to acknowledge their needs

fail to acknowledge their needs my name is Kia Dell and I’m a passionate

my name is Kia Dell and I’m a passionate

my name is Kia Dell and I’m a passionate advocate for addressing issues that

advocate for addressing issues that

advocate for addressing issues that negatively impact indigenous communities

negatively impact indigenous communities

negatively impact indigenous communities we do this in our work by looking at the

we do this in our work by looking at the

we do this in our work by looking at the complex business and social challenges

complex business and social challenges

complex business and social challenges that face our communities every day we

that face our communities every day we

that face our communities every day we work with top business leaders from ASX

work with top business leaders from ASX

work with top business leaders from ASX listed companies to NGOs

listed companies to NGOs

listed companies to NGOs and we work to partner with indigenous

and we work to partner with indigenous

and we work to partner with indigenous communities to co-create locally

communities to co-create locally

communities to co-create locally relevant solutions that meet their needs

relevant solutions that meet their needs

relevant solutions that meet their needs and the challenges that they face every

and the challenges that they face every

and the challenges that they face every day now I feel like I also need to

day now I feel like I also need to

day now I feel like I also need to clarify that I identify as an Australian

clarify that I identify as an Australian

clarify that I identify as an Australian and as a woman who is also Aboriginal

and as a woman who is also Aboriginal

and as a woman who is also Aboriginal from the gidget people of what one

from the gidget people of what one

from the gidget people of what one community in the East Kimberley region

community in the East Kimberley region

community in the East Kimberley region of Western Australia I’m also equally

of Western Australia I’m also equally

of Western Australia I’m also equally proud of my father’s heritage from

proud of my father’s heritage from

proud of my father’s heritage from Scotland and England

Scotland and England

Scotland and England if you’re wondering why I felt it was

if you’re wondering why I felt it was

if you’re wondering why I felt it was necessary to clarify that it’s probably

necessary to clarify that it’s probably

necessary to clarify that it’s probably got something to do with people saying

got something to do with people saying

got something to do with people saying things like you don’t look like a real

things like you don’t look like a real

things like you don’t look like a real original person or you’re not black

original person or you’re not black

original person or you’re not black enough to be a real Aboriginal person

enough to be a real Aboriginal person

enough to be a real Aboriginal person and my favorite or you’re one of the

and my favorite or you’re one of the

and my favorite or you’re one of the good ones whatever that means

good ones whatever that means

good ones whatever that means you see those statements are symptoms of

you see those statements are symptoms of

you see those statements are symptoms of a much larger economic issue not a race

a much larger economic issue not a race

a much larger economic issue not a race issue and when you reflect on what they

issue and when you reflect on what they

issue and when you reflect on what they contribute to for starters they actually

contribute to for starters they actually

contribute to for starters they actually focus on our deficit they focus on the

focus on our deficit they focus on the

focus on our deficit they focus on the deficit of people and communities we

deficit of people and communities we

deficit of people and communities we also see other symptoms image

also see other symptoms image

also see other symptoms image symptoms such as generations of

symptoms such as generations of

symptoms such as generations of individuals who fail to recognize how

individuals who fail to recognize how

individuals who fail to recognize how wonderfully incredible they are

wonderfully incredible they are

wonderfully incredible they are resilient individuals notice that I’m

resilient individuals notice that I’m

resilient individuals notice that I’m using individuals as opposed to labels

using individuals as opposed to labels

using individuals as opposed to labels I’ve had the privilege of working with

I’ve had the privilege of working with

I’ve had the privilege of working with over 500 incredible human beings most

over 500 incredible human beings most

over 500 incredible human beings most who are Aboriginal and Torres Strait

who are Aboriginal and Torres Strait

who are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people these individuals not

Islander people these individuals not

Islander people these individuals not only want to lead positive social change

only want to lead positive social change

only want to lead positive social change in their communities and our country but

in their communities and our country but

in their communities and our country but they want to be part of implementing it

they want to be part of implementing it

they want to be part of implementing it unfortunately we do consistently see an

unfortunately we do consistently see an

unfortunately we do consistently see an epidemic of deeply embedded destructive

epidemic of deeply embedded destructive

epidemic of deeply embedded destructive beliefs when you think about the average

beliefs when you think about the average

beliefs when you think about the average age of participants in our programs

age of participants in our programs

age of participants in our programs we’re talking about 18 year olds now if

we’re talking about 18 year olds now if

we’re talking about 18 year olds now if you were to take your mind back to when

you were to take your mind back to when

you were to take your mind back to when you were 18 and all the experiences that

you were 18 and all the experiences that

you were 18 and all the experiences that created and shaped who you are today I

created and shaped who you are today I

created and shaped who you are today I want you to consider just for a moment

want you to consider just for a moment

want you to consider just for a moment the life of the 18 year olds we work

the life of the 18 year olds we work

the life of the 18 year olds we work with and the past that they have bought

with and the past that they have bought

with and the past that they have bought a number of these young people our

a number of these young people our

a number of these young people our children and grandchildren of members of

children and grandchildren of members of

children and grandchildren of members of the stolen generation and yes I know

the stolen generation and yes I know

the stolen generation and yes I know there’s many people in Australia if you

there’s many people in Australia if you

there’s many people in Australia if you want us to get over it

want us to get over it

want us to get over it believe me no one wants that more than

believe me no one wants that more than

believe me no one wants that more than we do no one wants to be born into a

we do no one wants to be born into a

we do no one wants to be born into a cycle of welfare dependency no child is

cycle of welfare dependency no child is

cycle of welfare dependency no child is born saying hey pick me so that I can

born saying hey pick me so that I can

born saying hey pick me so that I can you know have issues my whole life no we

you know have issues my whole life no we

you know have issues my whole life no we want to resolve in

want to resolve in

want to resolve in to generational drama but we need to be

to generational drama but we need to be

to generational drama but we need to be able to do it as a collective a number

able to do it as a collective a number

able to do it as a collective a number of these young people are also reminders

of these young people are also reminders

of these young people are also reminders of the potential that we can become the

of the potential that we can become the

of the potential that we can become the wonderful thing about this story with

wonderful thing about this story with

wonderful thing about this story with these young people is at the end of the

these young people is at the end of the

these young people is at the end of the program image this incredible question

program image this incredible question

program image this incredible question our question I believe is very relevant

our question I believe is very relevant

our question I believe is very relevant for us today one that I want each and

for us today one that I want each and

for us today one that I want each and every one of you to reflect on in

every one of you to reflect on in

every one of you to reflect on in denying parts of who you are

denying parts of who you are

denying parts of who you are are you also denying parts of your

are you also denying parts of your

are you also denying parts of your parents grandparents and ancestors who

parents grandparents and ancestors who

parents grandparents and ancestors who paved this very privileged path for you

paved this very privileged path for you

paved this very privileged path for you to be in this room today this is a

to be in this room today this is a

to be in this room today this is a question that I believe resonates with

question that I believe resonates with

question that I believe resonates with all of us not just as human beings but

all of us not just as human beings but

all of us not just as human beings but as a collective group of people who are

as a collective group of people who are

as a collective group of people who are capable of creating the change that we

capable of creating the change that we

capable of creating the change that we need to happen now and I want you to

need to happen now and I want you to

need to happen now and I want you to consider your role in contributing to

consider your role in contributing to

consider your role in contributing to Australia’s very public discomfort with

Australia’s very public discomfort with

Australia’s very public discomfort with investing directly in Aboriginal people

investing directly in Aboriginal people

investing directly in Aboriginal people rather than policies we must reframe how

rather than policies we must reframe how

rather than policies we must reframe how we invest in people and we must tip the

we invest in people and we must tip the

we invest in people and we must tip the model of investment in Aboriginal

model of investment in Aboriginal

model of investment in Aboriginal Affairs on its head but this is where

Affairs on its head but this is where

Affairs on its head but this is where the issue begins and I can’t help but

the issue begins and I can’t help but

the issue begins and I can’t help but wonder if this system is why this six

wonder if this system is why this six

wonder if this system is why this six billion dollar a year industry continues

billion dollar a year industry continues

billion dollar a year industry continues to flourish is there any reason why you

to flourish is there any reason why you

to flourish is there any reason why you wouldn’t want to resolve this economic

wouldn’t want to resolve this economic

wouldn’t want to resolve this economic issue how much more effective could we

issue how much more effective could we

issue how much more effective could we be if we were just to take a moment and

be if we were just to take a moment and

be if we were just to take a moment and say the solutions lay with the people

say the solutions lay with the people

say the solutions lay with the people after working with over 70 organizations

after working with over 70 organizations

after working with over 70 organizations all around Australia every role that’s

all around Australia every role that’s

all around Australia every role that’s funded to help Aboriginal people comes

funded to help Aboriginal people comes

funded to help Aboriginal people comes with a long long list of reasons why

with a long long list of reasons why

with a long long list of reasons why communities are at fault when results

communities are at fault when results

communities are at fault when results are not achieved shifting the blame

are not achieved shifting the blame

are not achieved shifting the blame disempowers everyone and when decisions

disempowers everyone and when decisions

disempowers everyone and when decisions are based on assumptions about the

are based on assumptions about the

are based on assumptions about the capability of communities rather than

capability of communities rather than

capability of communities rather than the decision-maker themselves then we’re

the decision-maker themselves then we’re

the decision-maker themselves then we’re heading into very very deep waters with

heading into very very deep waters with

heading into very very deep waters with nothing left to hold on to what I have

nothing left to hold on to what I have

nothing left to hold on to what I have found is that the results that are

found is that the results that are

found is that the results that are achieved when Aboriginal people and

achieved when Aboriginal people and

achieved when Aboriginal people and communities are at the table as partners

communities are at the table as partners

communities are at the table as partners rather than recipients fast track

rather than recipients fast track

rather than recipients fast track outcomes more than ever

outcomes more than ever

outcomes more than ever if you’re sitting here wondering what

if you’re sitting here wondering what

if you’re sitting here wondering what you can do to get answers and results

you can do to get answers and results

you can do to get answers and results out of this multi-billion dollar

out of this multi-billion dollar

out of this multi-billion dollar industry I want you to consider some of

industry I want you to consider some of

industry I want you to consider some of these questions if you’re a leader or

these questions if you’re a leader or

these questions if you’re a leader or decision maker in government NGO or

decision maker in government NGO or

decision maker in government NGO or corporate circles I want you to ask

corporate circles I want you to ask

corporate circles I want you to ask yourself how capable your team really is

yourself how capable your team really is

yourself how capable your team really is when it comes to creating solutions with

when it comes to creating solutions with

when it comes to creating solutions with communities rather than for them and if

communities rather than for them and if

communities rather than for them and if you’re an Aboriginal person I want you

you’re an Aboriginal person I want you

you’re an Aboriginal person I want you to ask yourself what role you’re playing

to ask yourself what role you’re playing

to ask yourself what role you’re playing to demonstrate that our capability is

to demonstrate that our capability is

to demonstrate that our capability is the key to our success rather than what

the key to our success rather than what

the key to our success rather than what we’re seeing now which is a sense of

we’re seeing now which is a sense of

we’re seeing now which is a sense of entitlement as human beings we must stop

entitlement as human beings we must stop

entitlement as human beings we must stop and hold a mirror up to ourselves and

and hold a mirror up to ourselves and

and hold a mirror up to ourselves and ask what kind of future we’re creating

ask what kind of future we’re creating

ask what kind of future we’re creating for our children and grandchildren do we

for our children and grandchildren do we

for our children and grandchildren do we want a country that’s known for its

want a country that’s known for its

want a country that’s known for its ignorance and intolerance or do we want

ignorance and intolerance or do we want

ignorance and intolerance or do we want to create innovative intelligent and

to create innovative intelligent and

to create innovative intelligent and practical solutions do we want to lead

practical solutions do we want to lead

practical solutions do we want to lead and impact our children based on our own

and impact our children based on our own

and impact our children based on our own personal biases or do we want them to

personal biases or do we want them to

personal biases or do we want them to celebrate knowing the wonderful benefits

celebrate knowing the wonderful benefits

celebrate knowing the wonderful benefits of diversity I leave you with this

of diversity I leave you with this

of diversity I leave you with this question as leaders today and decision

question as leaders today and decision

question as leaders today and decision makers today what purpose does it serve

makers today what purpose does it serve

makers today what purpose does it serve to continue benefiting from Aboriginal

to continue benefiting from Aboriginal

to continue benefiting from Aboriginal disadvantaged and who will change begin

disadvantaged and who will change begin

disadvantaged and who will change begin with if not for us thank you

with if not for us thank you

with if not for us thank you [Applause]

[Applause]

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