The Santa Fe’ing of the World: Does your city have a future? | Joel Garreau | TEDxTysons

return with us now to those wonderful

return with us now to those wonderful days of World War two

days of World War two

days of World War two in Tyson’s Corner Virginia I know a guy

in Tyson’s Corner Virginia I know a guy

in Tyson’s Corner Virginia I know a guy who farmed the land around here back

who farmed the land around here back

who farmed the land around here back then he raised wheat he used mules in a

then he raised wheat he used mules in a

then he raised wheat he used mules in a place that nobody had ever heard of

place that nobody had ever heard of

place that nobody had ever heard of before

before

before call mcclain this guy’s named till hazel

call mcclain this guy’s named till hazel

call mcclain this guy’s named till hazel Chuck appreciative laughter from the

Chuck appreciative laughter from the

Chuck appreciative laughter from the guys who know a little bit about Tyson’s

guys who know a little bit about Tyson’s

guys who know a little bit about Tyson’s till is the foremost developer in these

till is the foremost developer in these

till is the foremost developer in these parts of the 20th century he created

parts of the 20th century he created

parts of the 20th century he created much of the Washington Metropolitan Area

much of the Washington Metropolitan Area

much of the Washington Metropolitan Area as it exists today including Tyson’s as

as it exists today including Tyson’s as

as it exists today including Tyson’s as everything else and till was arguably

everything else and till was arguably

everything else and till was arguably did more to shape the built environment

did more to shape the built environment

did more to shape the built environment of the Washington Metropolitan Area than

of the Washington Metropolitan Area than

of the Washington Metropolitan Area than any man since Pierre la fall and I’m not

any man since Pierre la fall and I’m not

any man since Pierre la fall and I’m not so sure about la fall and he’s still

so sure about la fall and he’s still

so sure about la fall and he’s still alive and he remembers this building

alive and he remembers this building

alive and he remembers this building here it was universally known he says as

here it was universally known he says as

here it was universally known he says as quote the beer joint in quote and these

quote the beer joint in quote and these

quote the beer joint in quote and these two little roads here nobody had ever

two little roads here nobody had ever

two little roads here nobody had ever heard of them either they were route 7

heard of them either they were route 7

heard of them either they were route 7 and 123 all right so here is Tyson’s

and 123 all right so here is Tyson’s

and 123 all right so here is Tyson’s today what happened well what happened

today what happened well what happened

today what happened well what happened was the automobile the jet plane and the

was the automobile the jet plane and the

was the automobile the jet plane and the corporate computer these three forces

corporate computer these three forces

corporate computer these three forces totally reshaped cities worldwide and

totally reshaped cities worldwide and

totally reshaped cities worldwide and Tyson’s boomed because Tyson’s was

Tyson’s boomed because Tyson’s was

Tyson’s boomed because Tyson’s was optimized for the automobile the jet

optimized for the automobile the jet

optimized for the automobile the jet plane and the computer so as a result

plane and the computer so as a result

plane and the computer so as a result Tyson’s became the largest urban core

Tyson’s became the largest urban core

Tyson’s became the largest urban core between Washington and Atlanta and this

between Washington and Atlanta and this

between Washington and Atlanta and this all happened in the blink of an eye in a

all happened in the blink of an eye in a

all happened in the blink of an eye in a generation in living memory so this

generation in living memory so this

generation in living memory so this raises some questions is if you’ve had a

raises some questions is if you’ve had a

raises some questions is if you’ve had a revolution this big so soon is Tyson’s

revolution this big so soon is Tyson’s

revolution this big so soon is Tyson’s forever does Tyson’s have a future you

forever does Tyson’s have a future you

forever does Tyson’s have a future you know is there something else that’s

know is there something else that’s

know is there something else that’s going to come on and revolutionize it I

going to come on and revolutionize it I

going to come on and revolutionize it I think the data shows that that’s exactly

think the data shows that that’s exactly

think the data shows that that’s exactly what’s happening

what’s happening

what’s happening I think you’re seeing that we’re

I think you’re seeing that we’re

I think you’re seeing that we’re creating brand-new kinds of cities as

creating brand-new kinds of cities as

creating brand-new kinds of cities as revolutionary as Tyson’s was 30 years

revolutionary as Tyson’s was 30 years

revolutionary as Tyson’s was 30 years ago

ago

ago only this time these new places are

only this time these new places are

only this time these new places are spread all over the planet and they’re

spread all over the planet and they’re

spread all over the planet and they’re far far away from any of the

far far away from any of the

far far away from any of the conventional metropolitan areas like

conventional metropolitan areas like

conventional metropolitan areas like ours and certainly on the far side of

ours and certainly on the far side of

ours and certainly on the far side of the Moon from a place like Tyson’s I

the Moon from a place like Tyson’s I

the Moon from a place like Tyson’s I call this the Santa Fe of the planet you

call this the Santa Fe of the planet you

call this the Santa Fe of the planet you can also call it edge city – oh if you

can also call it edge city – oh if you

can also call it edge city – oh if you wish this is Santa Fe New Mexico the

wish this is Santa Fe New Mexico the

wish this is Santa Fe New Mexico the interesting thing about these new cities

interesting thing about these new cities

interesting thing about these new cities this new Santa Fe is that these places

this new Santa Fe is that these places

this new Santa Fe is that these places are not by the stretch of the

are not by the stretch of the

are not by the stretch of the imagination suburbs they are not sprawl

imagination suburbs they are not sprawl

imagination suburbs they are not sprawl they’re way too far out for that instead

they’re way too far out for that instead

they’re way too far out for that instead what they are are new places that are

what they are are new places that are

what they are are new places that are digital digitally empowered by the

digital digitally empowered by the

digital digitally empowered by the Internet in a strange way you know as

Internet in a strange way you know as

Internet in a strange way you know as you know just about everything can be

you know just about everything can be

you know just about everything can be digitized today so that means that the

digitized today so that means that the

digitized today so that means that the stuff that can’t be digitized it becomes

stuff that can’t be digitized it becomes

stuff that can’t be digitized it becomes rare and thus exceedingly valuable and

rare and thus exceedingly valuable and

rare and thus exceedingly valuable and two of the things that these places

two of the things that these places

two of the things that these places epitomize that included in this one is

epitomize that included in this one is

epitomize that included in this one is beautiful scenery but the other is face

beautiful scenery but the other is face

beautiful scenery but the other is face to face contact you’re not going to be

to face contact you’re not going to be

to face contact you’re not going to be able to digitize face to face anytime

able to digitize face to face anytime

able to digitize face to face anytime soon and face to face is crucial you

soon and face to face is crucial you

soon and face to face is crucial you need face to face for trust

need face to face for trust

need face to face for trust you need face to face to create love a

you need face to face to create love a

you need face to face to create love a lot of times you need face to face for

lot of times you need face to face for

lot of times you need face to face for fun

fun

fun so therefore the places that are great

so therefore the places that are great

so therefore the places that are great for face to face I think are the ones

for face to face I think are the ones

for face to face I think are the ones that are going to thrive in the future

that are going to thrive in the future

that are going to thrive in the future and the ones that are lousy at it

and the ones that are lousy at it

and the ones that are lousy at it they’re gonna die period full stop these

they’re gonna die period full stop these

they’re gonna die period full stop these are the cities that are gonna die

are the cities that are gonna die

are the cities that are gonna die think about this for a minute you look

think about this for a minute you look

think about this for a minute you look at the near horizon and what do you see

at the near horizon and what do you see

at the near horizon and what do you see you see a world in which everything is

you see a world in which everything is

you see a world in which everything is smart gigabit connections are ubiquitous

smart gigabit connections are ubiquitous

smart gigabit connections are ubiquitous and of course there is the marvelous

and of course there is the marvelous

and of course there is the marvelous robotic car which you know is going to

robotic car which you know is going to

robotic car which you know is going to become a date center like no other yeah

become a date center like no other yeah

become a date center like no other yeah and and the

and and the

and and the and you know when as this all this stuff

and you know when as this all this stuff

and you know when as this all this stuff happens people are going to increasingly

happens people are going to increasingly

happens people are going to increasingly start being realizing that they can live

start being realizing that they can live

start being realizing that they can live just about anywhere you know they can

just about anywhere you know they can

just about anywhere you know they can live and work and play and pray and shop

live and work and play and pray and shop

live and work and play and pray and shop wherever they want and so but this

wherever they want and so but this

wherever they want and so but this anywhere doesn’t mean everywhere

anywhere doesn’t mean everywhere

anywhere doesn’t mean everywhere what they want is urbane they want

what they want is urbane they want

what they want is urbane they want sophisticated but not necessarily with

sophisticated but not necessarily with

sophisticated but not necessarily with urban so think or being without urban

urban so think or being without urban

urban so think or being without urban and you get back to Santa Fe here Santa

and you get back to Santa Fe here Santa

and you get back to Santa Fe here Santa Fe is the classic example because for

Fe is the classic example because for

Fe is the classic example because for example it is a world-class Opera Center

example it is a world-class Opera Center

example it is a world-class Opera Center right this is the Santa Fe Opera House

right this is the Santa Fe Opera House

right this is the Santa Fe Opera House it also has sophisticated restaurants

it also has sophisticated restaurants

it also has sophisticated restaurants charming architecture excellent second

charming architecture excellent second

charming architecture excellent second hand boot stores quirky bookstores

hand boot stores quirky bookstores

hand boot stores quirky bookstores spectacular mountains great diversity

spectacular mountains great diversity

spectacular mountains great diversity and it’s tiny it’s 70,000 people far far

and it’s tiny it’s 70,000 people far far

and it’s tiny it’s 70,000 people far far from any major metro so you know it

from any major metro so you know it

from any major metro so you know it turns out I guess small is beautiful but

turns out I guess small is beautiful but

turns out I guess small is beautiful but the question is how can this possibly be

the question is how can this possibly be

the question is how can this possibly be right now we go back to history a little

right now we go back to history a little

right now we go back to history a little bit

bit

bit this was Washington DC in the 1980s then

this was Washington DC in the 1980s then

this was Washington DC in the 1980s then I was a reporter and editor at The

I was a reporter and editor at The

I was a reporter and editor at The Washington Post and I wrote a

Washington Post and I wrote a

Washington Post and I wrote a best-seller called edge city life on the

best-seller called edge city life on the

best-seller called edge city life on the new frontier in which Tyson’s figured

new frontier in which Tyson’s figured

new frontier in which Tyson’s figured prominently and for this we drew this

prominently and for this we drew this

prominently and for this we drew this map of the edge cities in Washington now

map of the edge cities in Washington now

map of the edge cities in Washington now look at all these little red dots this

look at all these little red dots this

look at all these little red dots this is the most concentrated place in the

is the most concentrated place in the

is the most concentrated place in the world for these edge cities every one of

world for these edge cities every one of

world for these edge cities every one of these red dots is larger than most of

these red dots is larger than most of

these red dots is larger than most of the old downtown’s ever were on their

the old downtown’s ever were on their

the old downtown’s ever were on their best day every one of these red dots

best day every one of these red dots

best day every one of these red dots here in the Washington area for example

here in the Washington area for example

here in the Washington area for example had 5 million square feet of office

had 5 million square feet of office

had 5 million square feet of office space and up now that’s a ton and this

space and up now that’s a ton and this

space and up now that’s a ton and this means high-quality white-collar jobs

means high-quality white-collar jobs

means high-quality white-collar jobs right each one of these red dots was

right each one of these red dots was

right each one of these red dots was bigger than Memphis in this regard okay

bigger than Memphis in this regard okay

bigger than Memphis in this regard okay but office parks do not a new kind of

but office parks do not a new kind of

but office parks do not a new kind of city make so you also have to provision

city make so you also have to provision

city make so you also have to provision all your worldly goods so this gets to

all your worldly goods so this gets to

all your worldly goods so this gets to shopping and each one of these red dots

shopping and each one of these red dots

shopping and each one of these red dots also had at least 600,000 square feet of

also had at least 600,000 square feet of

also had at least 600,000 square feet of retail and

retail and

retail and and again this is more shops than most

and again this is more shops than most

and again this is more shops than most downtown’s had in their finest day

downtown’s had in their finest day

downtown’s had in their finest day there’s a medium-sized mall not to

there’s a medium-sized mall not to

there’s a medium-sized mall not to mention you know the two giggle malls

mention you know the two giggle malls

mention you know the two giggle malls here in places like Tyson’s so the

here in places like Tyson’s so the

here in places like Tyson’s so the question I had was well now if look at

question I had was well now if look at

question I had was well now if look at this concentration of new kinds of

this concentration of new kinds of

this concentration of new kinds of cities what does this mean to Washington

cities what does this mean to Washington

cities what does this mean to Washington where is the economic power center here

where is the economic power center here

where is the economic power center here well here’s what you do

well here’s what you do

well here’s what you do imagine you’ve got a waiters tray and

imagine you’ve got a waiters tray and

imagine you’ve got a waiters tray and imagine that you’re holding them on your

imagine that you’re holding them on your

imagine that you’re holding them on your fingertips and this waiters tray is in

fingertips and this waiters tray is in

fingertips and this waiters tray is in the shape of the Washington Metropolitan

the shape of the Washington Metropolitan

the shape of the Washington Metropolitan Area okay suppose you have an endless

Area okay suppose you have an endless

Area okay suppose you have an endless supply of little weights here each of

supply of little weights here each of

supply of little weights here each of them are equal and suppose they

them are equal and suppose they

them are equal and suppose they represent a high quality white-collar

represent a high quality white-collar

represent a high quality white-collar job suppose you take these weights and

job suppose you take these weights and

job suppose you take these weights and you put them on the drip tray wherever

you put them on the drip tray wherever

you put them on the drip tray wherever they’re geographically located one by

they’re geographically located one by

they’re geographically located one by one throughout all these edge cities and

one throughout all these edge cities and

one throughout all these edge cities and then when you finish with that you

then when you finish with that you

then when you finish with that you decide you’re going to lift this tray to

decide you’re going to lift this tray to

decide you’re going to lift this tray to find out where it balances on your

find out where it balances on your

find out where it balances on your fingertips and the answer is three miles

fingertips and the answer is three miles

fingertips and the answer is three miles east of here this is now the economic

east of here this is now the economic

east of here this is now the economic center of the Washington Metropolitan

center of the Washington Metropolitan

center of the Washington Metropolitan Area DC is the fringe Tyson’s is the

Area DC is the fringe Tyson’s is the

Area DC is the fringe Tyson’s is the center this was quite the revolution so

center this was quite the revolution so

center this was quite the revolution so what’s up with that and the answer is

what’s up with that and the answer is

what’s up with that and the answer is that all cities are always shaped by

that all cities are always shaped by

that all cities are always shaped by whatever was the state of the art

whatever was the state of the art

whatever was the state of the art transportation device at the time if the

transportation device at the time if the

transportation device at the time if the state of the art was shoe leather and

state of the art was shoe leather and

state of the art was shoe leather and donkeys like at the time of Jesus what

donkeys like at the time of Jesus what

donkeys like at the time of Jesus what you get is Jerusalem

you get is Jerusalem

you get is Jerusalem right because donkeys have these sharp

right because donkeys have these sharp

right because donkeys have these sharp little hooves so they can go beep boop

little hooves so they can go beep boop

little hooves so they can go beep boop beep boop boop straight up these pills

beep boop boop straight up these pills

beep boop boop straight up these pills fine that goes great for Jerusalem for

fine that goes great for Jerusalem for

fine that goes great for Jerusalem for 1600 years and then the state of the art

1600 years and then the state of the art

1600 years and then the state of the art becomes ocean-going sale and wagons and

becomes ocean-going sale and wagons and

becomes ocean-going sale and wagons and you end up with a brand-new kind of city

you end up with a brand-new kind of city

you end up with a brand-new kind of city like Boston here or Amsterdam or like so

like Boston here or Amsterdam or like so

like Boston here or Amsterdam or like so many others and is entirely different

many others and is entirely different

many others and is entirely different kind of city and then you ask planners

kind of city and then you ask planners

kind of city and then you ask planners well all right that’s fine you have a

well all right that’s fine you have a

well all right that’s fine you have a revolution in cities what happened to

revolution in cities what happened to

revolution in cities what happened to Jerusalem and they have a technical word

Jerusalem and they have a technical word

Jerusalem and they have a technical word for this

for this

for this they say that Jerusalem was screwed

why okay so you uh you then alright so

why okay so you uh you then alright so you look at Boston and then you said

you look at Boston and then you said

you look at Boston and then you said well what was the big revolution after

well what was the big revolution after

well what was the big revolution after your ocean-going sailing wagons and the

your ocean-going sailing wagons and the

your ocean-going sailing wagons and the answer was the railroad what happened

answer was the railroad what happened

answer was the railroad what happened well you end up with another revolution

well you end up with another revolution

well you end up with another revolution another brand-new kind of city like

another brand-new kind of city like

another brand-new kind of city like Chicago and you say well what happened

Chicago and you say well what happened

Chicago and you say well what happened to Boston and the planners say well it

to Boston and the planners say well it

to Boston and the planners say well it was screwed and so you say well but what

was screwed and so you say well but what

was screwed and so you say well but what was the next step after that and they

was the next step after that and they

was the next step after that and they say the jet passenger playing you say

say the jet passenger playing you say

say the jet passenger playing you say well what happened okay is anybody here

well what happened okay is anybody here

well what happened okay is anybody here a baseball fan

a baseball fan

a baseball fan okay 1955 where was the southwesternmost

okay 1955 where was the southwesternmost

okay 1955 where was the southwesternmost baseball team Major League in America

baseball team Major League in America

baseball team Major League in America 1955 southwesternmost team anybody know

1955 southwesternmost team anybody know

1955 southwesternmost team anybody know st. Louis excellent you’re right st.

st. Louis excellent you’re right st.

st. Louis excellent you’re right st. Louis now think about that that what was

Louis now think about that that what was

Louis now think about that that what was up with that well what happened was that

up with that well what happened was that

up with that well what happened was that you couldn’t possibly have a team any

you couldn’t possibly have a team any

you couldn’t possibly have a team any farther south western st. Louis if you

farther south western st. Louis if you

farther south western st. Louis if you were trying to make a schedule in

were trying to make a schedule in

were trying to make a schedule in getting them around at railroad speed

getting them around at railroad speed

getting them around at railroad speed you just couldn’t get it any farther

you just couldn’t get it any farther

you just couldn’t get it any farther that was the significance of the jet

that was the significance of the jet

that was the significance of the jet passenger plane for the entire economy

passenger plane for the entire economy

passenger plane for the entire economy with the rise of Jets all of a sudden

with the rise of Jets all of a sudden

with the rise of Jets all of a sudden you had world-class cities in Dallas

you had world-class cities in Dallas

you had world-class cities in Dallas Denver Houston Atlanta Phoenix

Denver Houston Atlanta Phoenix

Denver Houston Atlanta Phoenix ultimately Sydney Beijing and all that

ultimately Sydney Beijing and all that

ultimately Sydney Beijing and all that and you realize okay well that was a

and you realize okay well that was a

and you realize okay well that was a real big deal and so what happened

real big deal and so what happened

real big deal and so what happened what’s the next big step I think the

what’s the next big step I think the

what’s the next big step I think the next big comparable step is the Internet

next big comparable step is the Internet

next big comparable step is the Internet and I think the result of this is the

and I think the result of this is the

and I think the result of this is the Santa Fe of the universe that I’m going

Santa Fe of the universe that I’m going

Santa Fe of the universe that I’m going to be talking about I mean think about

to be talking about I mean think about

to be talking about I mean think about what the Internet allows us to do for

what the Internet allows us to do for

what the Internet allows us to do for example all right all of us have got

example all right all of us have got

example all right all of us have got laptops and and-and-and smartphones

laptops and and-and-and smartphones

laptops and and-and-and smartphones right so increasingly you know we can I

right so increasingly you know we can I

right so increasingly you know we can I mean this is our curse right this is

mean this is our curse right this is

mean this is our curse right this is that we can work from anywhere and

that we can work from anywhere and

that we can work from anywhere and anywhere that we are we’re working right

anywhere that we are we’re working right

anywhere that we are we’re working right and so after a while you begin to

and so after a while you begin to

and so after a while you begin to realize well now why do I need an office

realize well now why do I need an office

realize well now why do I need an office tower if I can operate like this why am

tower if I can operate like this why am

tower if I can operate like this why am i commuting on the Beltway if I can work

i commuting on the Beltway if I can work

i commuting on the Beltway if I can work like this

like this

like this the that’s when people start asking

the that’s when people start asking

the that’s when people start asking themselves

themselves

themselves well how about I mean why don’t I work

well how about I mean why don’t I work

well how about I mean why don’t I work someplace that I would enjoy same thing

someplace that I would enjoy same thing

someplace that I would enjoy same thing goes for shopping you know why do you

goes for shopping you know why do you

goes for shopping you know why do you don’t need malls anymore

don’t need malls anymore

don’t need malls anymore anything that you can buy on the

anything that you can buy on the

anything that you can buy on the internet will be shipped to you we’re in

internet will be shipped to you we’re in

internet will be shipped to you we’re in the freight revolution right Santa Claus

the freight revolution right Santa Claus

the freight revolution right Santa Claus comes in a big brown truck he’ll bring

comes in a big brown truck he’ll bring

comes in a big brown truck he’ll bring you you know weapons-grade sashimi tuna

you you know weapons-grade sashimi tuna

you you know weapons-grade sashimi tuna you know wherever you want you know

you know wherever you want you know

you know wherever you want you know anytime so you don’t need malls anyway

anytime so you don’t need malls anyway

anytime so you don’t need malls anyway so the question is alright if you

so the question is alright if you

so the question is alright if you everybody besides that the mountains and

everybody besides that the mountains and

everybody besides that the mountains and the oceans start looking pretty good

the oceans start looking pretty good

the oceans start looking pretty good what happens to Tice’s and what in

what happens to Tice’s and what in

what happens to Tice’s and what in places like it well we’re already

places like it well we’re already

places like it well we’re already beginning to see this in the commercial

beginning to see this in the commercial

beginning to see this in the commercial real estate industry here right you’ve

real estate industry here right you’ve

real estate industry here right you’ve probably seen in the paper how many

probably seen in the paper how many

probably seen in the paper how many empty office towers are being converted

empty office towers are being converted

empty office towers are being converted to apartments and you know and you’re

to apartments and you know and you’re

to apartments and you know and you’re seeing that there are no new edge cities

seeing that there are no new edge cities

seeing that there are no new edge cities that have been built in the last 20

that have been built in the last 20

that have been built in the last 20 years from scratch and of course you’re

years from scratch and of course you’re

years from scratch and of course you’re getting dead malls so you ask yourself

getting dead malls so you ask yourself

getting dead malls so you ask yourself well have we stopped building cities or

well have we stopped building cities or

well have we stopped building cities or are we replacing them with something new

are we replacing them with something new

are we replacing them with something new and the answer I think is something new

and the answer I think is something new

and the answer I think is something new I was looking at some numbers a few

I was looking at some numbers a few

I was looking at some numbers a few years back and I suddenly realized that

years back and I suddenly realized that

years back and I suddenly realized that the number one Metro in America in terms

the number one Metro in America in terms

the number one Metro in America in terms of real estate appreciation people

of real estate appreciation people

of real estate appreciation people getting richer than stink with the

getting richer than stink with the

getting richer than stink with the health price of their houses just

health price of their houses just

health price of their houses just skyrocketing was Wenatchee Washington

skyrocketing was Wenatchee Washington

skyrocketing was Wenatchee Washington and I thought I’d do this continent

and I thought I’d do this continent

and I thought I’d do this continent pretty well but I thought where the hell

pretty well but I thought where the hell

pretty well but I thought where the hell is supernaturally Washington’s right

is supernaturally Washington’s right

is supernaturally Washington’s right well it turns out that it’s three hours

well it turns out that it’s three hours

well it turns out that it’s three hours east of Seattle on the dry side of the

east of Seattle on the dry side of the

east of Seattle on the dry side of the Cascades and suddenly it made sense

Cascades and suddenly it made sense

Cascades and suddenly it made sense Seattle is full of good jobs Microsoft

Seattle is full of good jobs Microsoft

Seattle is full of good jobs Microsoft Gates Foundation Amazon but as my

Gates Foundation Amazon but as my

Gates Foundation Amazon but as my daughter puts it Seattle is one of those

daughter puts it Seattle is one of those

daughter puts it Seattle is one of those it gets rains all the time so it’s like

it gets rains all the time so it’s like

it gets rains all the time so it’s like being married to a beautiful woman who’s

being married to a beautiful woman who’s

being married to a beautiful woman who’s always sick and you know you yeah

always sick and you know you yeah

always sick and you know you yeah so people are looking for it for a

so people are looking for it for a

so people are looking for it for a little sunshine they discover wenatchee

little sunshine they discover wenatchee

little sunshine they discover wenatchee they go for the weekend but they’ve got

they go for the weekend but they’ve got

they go for the weekend but they’ve got their smartphones and their laptops and

their smartphones and their laptops and

their smartphones and their laptops and they thought you know so forever when

they thought you know so forever when

they thought you know so forever when lovers go someplace like they say why

lovers go someplace like they say why

lovers go someplace like they say why are we going back but now we’ve got a

are we going back but now we’ve got a

are we going back but now we’ve got a really new reasonably new question in

really new reasonably new question in

really new reasonably new question in real estate why are we going back so

real estate why are we going back so

real estate why are we going back so instead of leaving on Saturday you start

instead of leaving on Saturday you start

instead of leaving on Saturday you start leaving on Thursday instead of leaving

leaving on Thursday instead of leaving

leaving on Thursday instead of leaving on Sunday you start leaving you know

on Sunday you start leaving you know

on Sunday you start leaving you know saying there until Tuesday and that’s

saying there until Tuesday and that’s

saying there until Tuesday and that’s the revolution that’s when you’re

the revolution that’s when you’re

the revolution that’s when you’re spending more time in this new kind of

spending more time in this new kind of

spending more time in this new kind of city of when actually working and

city of when actually working and

city of when actually working and playing and living then you are back in

playing and living then you are back in

playing and living then you are back in your edge city in Seattle and you know

your edge city in Seattle and you know

your edge city in Seattle and you know but this is not just any place these are

but this is not just any place these are

but this is not just any place these are places that are good for face to face

places that are good for face to face

places that are good for face to face and you look at the new census numbers

and you look at the new census numbers

and you look at the new census numbers and all of these places are these these

and all of these places are these these

and all of these places are these these this is where the the growth is

this is where the the growth is

this is where the the growth is exploding you know where is Georgetown

exploding you know where is Georgetown

exploding you know where is Georgetown Texas turns out it’s in the hill country

Texas turns out it’s in the hill country

Texas turns out it’s in the hill country really nice where is South Jordan Utah

really nice where is South Jordan Utah

really nice where is South Jordan Utah well it turns out it’s between the ochre

well it turns out it’s between the ochre

well it turns out it’s between the ochre mountains and the Wasatch Range now look

mountains and the Wasatch Range now look

mountains and the Wasatch Range now look at this place it’s like a cross between

at this place it’s like a cross between

at this place it’s like a cross between the 18th century and the 21st century

the 18th century and the 21st century

the 18th century and the 21st century it’s like we’re waking up from our

it’s like we’re waking up from our

it’s like we’re waking up from our nightmare of of Industrial Age cities

nightmare of of Industrial Age cities

nightmare of of Industrial Age cities and recreating something like Monticello

and recreating something like Monticello

and recreating something like Monticello with broadband ok so come back to my

with broadband ok so come back to my

with broadband ok so come back to my statement about how the only places that

statement about how the only places that

statement about how the only places that will thrive are the ones that are face

will thrive are the ones that are face

will thrive are the ones that are face to face good for and the only and

to face good for and the only and

to face good for and the only and otherwise they’ll die does that mean

otherwise they’ll die does that mean

otherwise they’ll die does that mean that all these edge cities are dead no

that all these edge cities are dead no

that all these edge cities are dead no rest in for example as you can see is

rest in for example as you can see is

rest in for example as you can see is pretty good at face to face but then you

pretty good at face to face but then you

pretty good at face to face but then you ask yourself Mary feel Prince William

ask yourself Mary feel Prince William

ask yourself Mary feel Prince William County you know and then you ask

County you know and then you ask

County you know and then you ask yourself about the downtown’s are they

yourself about the downtown’s are they

yourself about the downtown’s are they all gonna die

all gonna die

all gonna die well no here’s Adams Morgan that’s good

well no here’s Adams Morgan that’s good

well no here’s Adams Morgan that’s good for face-to-face but Camden meanwhile

for face-to-face but Camden meanwhile

for face-to-face but Camden meanwhile you know where you’re actually seeing

you know where you’re actually seeing

you know where you’re actually seeing the big explosion is far far from any

the big explosion is far far from any

the big explosion is far far from any place that’s a conventional big metro

place that’s a conventional big metro

place that’s a conventional big metro you know and locally what you’re seeing

you know and locally what you’re seeing

you know and locally what you’re seeing here is in the Blue Ridge Mountains in

here is in the Blue Ridge Mountains in

here is in the Blue Ridge Mountains in the Piedmont of Virginia an hour and two

the Piedmont of Virginia an hour and two

the Piedmont of Virginia an hour and two hours and

hours and

hours and or from here and this goes from

or from here and this goes from

or from here and this goes from Middleburg to Charlottesville and that’s

Middleburg to Charlottesville and that’s

Middleburg to Charlottesville and that’s where you’re seeing this explosion of

where you’re seeing this explosion of

where you’re seeing this explosion of these Sante FES and everywhere from

these Sante FES and everywhere from

these Sante FES and everywhere from little Washington to Madison Virginia

little Washington to Madison Virginia

little Washington to Madison Virginia that until recently we’re a really

that until recently we’re a really

that until recently we’re a really country and here’s warrant in Virginia

country and here’s warrant in Virginia

country and here’s warrant in Virginia which is in Fauquier County and it’s at

which is in Fauquier County and it’s at

which is in Fauquier County and it’s at the heart of the Santa Fe and country

the heart of the Santa Fe and country

the heart of the Santa Fe and country and it’s great for face to face and you

and it’s great for face to face and you

and it’s great for face to face and you know who lives there till hazel who

know who lives there till hazel who

know who lives there till hazel who lives on three thousand gorgeous rolling

lives on three thousand gorgeous rolling

lives on three thousand gorgeous rolling acres so I asked myself okay what does

acres so I asked myself okay what does

acres so I asked myself okay what does this mean for Tyson’s if we’re going

this mean for Tyson’s if we’re going

this mean for Tyson’s if we’re going through the biggest revolution in how we

through the biggest revolution in how we

through the biggest revolution in how we build cities since the since the

build cities since the since the

build cities since the since the original revolution in Tyson’s does

original revolution in Tyson’s does

original revolution in Tyson’s does Tyson’s have a future

Tyson’s have a future

Tyson’s have a future or is it screwed good question what do

or is it screwed good question what do

or is it screwed good question what do you think thank you very much