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The Remote Work Revolution | Kavi Guppta | TEDxUWA


so it’s clear that we need new

so it’s clear that we need new approaches to work our dependence on

approaches to work our dependence on

approaches to work our dependence on location isn’t necessarily the best way

location isn’t necessarily the best way

location isn’t necessarily the best way to think about work it worked for a long

to think about work it worked for a long

to think about work it worked for a long time after the post-industrial period

time after the post-industrial period

time after the post-industrial period but now it’s time to rethink it as we

but now it’s time to rethink it as we

but now it’s time to rethink it as we kind of transition into a more digital

kind of transition into a more digital

kind of transition into a more digital and service based economy I I’m very

and service based economy I I’m very

and service based economy I I’m very lucky to work with some smart people and

lucky to work with some smart people and

lucky to work with some smart people and I’m very lucky to work with a guy who

I’m very lucky to work with a guy who

I’m very lucky to work with a guy who told me that cavi

told me that cavi

told me that cavi you can change the workplace you can

you can change the workplace you can

you can change the workplace you can change the world change is a very big

change the world change is a very big

change the world change is a very big thing and as we’re seeing today in many

thing and as we’re seeing today in many

thing and as we’re seeing today in many of the conversations the ability to

of the conversations the ability to

of the conversations the ability to ignite change and start change can be

ignite change and start change can be

ignite change and start change can be very difficult but if you could take one

very difficult but if you could take one

very difficult but if you could take one small space and make it slightly better

small space and make it slightly better

small space and make it slightly better you are in effect changing the world and

you are in effect changing the world and

you are in effect changing the world and that’s why I’ve chosen to focus on the

that’s why I’ve chosen to focus on the

that’s why I’ve chosen to focus on the workplace I’m gonna talk to you today

workplace I’m gonna talk to you today

workplace I’m gonna talk to you today about a concept I called the remote work

about a concept I called the remote work

about a concept I called the remote work revolution and there are low work

revolution and there are low work

revolution and there are low work revolution from my belief is the idea

revolution from my belief is the idea

revolution from my belief is the idea that talent is borderless and work is

that talent is borderless and work is

that talent is borderless and work is worthless most work in the service

worthless most work in the service

worthless most work in the service sector economy can be done from anywhere

sector economy can be done from anywhere

sector economy can be done from anywhere if you have the right skills if you want

if you have the right skills if you want

if you have the right skills if you want to travel and you want to work at the

to travel and you want to work at the

to travel and you want to work at the same time which I know a lot of young

same time which I know a lot of young

same time which I know a lot of young people love to do remote work is a

people love to do remote work is a

people love to do remote work is a viable solution to do both at the same

viable solution to do both at the same

viable solution to do both at the same time while earning a good income if you

time while earning a good income if you

time while earning a good income if you want to raise a family and spend more

want to raise a family and spend more

want to raise a family and spend more time with your family or a loved one or

time with your family or a loved one or

time with your family or a loved one or maybe you have to take care of someone

maybe you have to take care of someone

maybe you have to take care of someone who’s dealing the family remote work is

who’s dealing the family remote work is

who’s dealing the family remote work is a viable solution to that flexibility

a viable solution to that flexibility

a viable solution to that flexibility where you can be at the office sometimes

where you can be at the office sometimes

where you can be at the office sometimes or you can be by your loved ones if you

or you can be by your loved ones if you

or you can be by your loved ones if you are bound by immigration meaning you

are bound by immigration meaning you

are bound by immigration meaning you cannot leave your country or you don’t

cannot leave your country or you don’t

cannot leave your country or you don’t have the means to leave your country to

have the means to leave your country to

have the means to leave your country to go to a better one remote work could be

go to a better one remote work could be

go to a better one remote work could be a viable solution to bring jobs to you

a viable solution to bring jobs to you

a viable solution to bring jobs to you if you want to earn a better wage this

if you want to earn a better wage this

if you want to earn a better wage this is the section of my talk I always say

is the section of my talk I always say

is the section of my talk I always say to the women who are out here if you

to the women who are out here if you

to the women who are out here if you want to earn more because you know you

want to earn more because you know you

want to earn more because you know you deserve it which I do as well remote

deserve it which I do as well remote

deserve it which I do as well remote work is a viable solution due to putting

work is a viable solution due to putting

work is a viable solution due to putting your talent in front of countries and

your talent in front of countries and

your talent in front of countries and come

come

come that are hungry for what you have to

that are hungry for what you have to

that are hungry for what you have to offer and that goes for challenges too

offer and that goes for challenges too

offer and that goes for challenges too if you find that you’ve been depleted of

if you find that you’ve been depleted of

if you find that you’ve been depleted of the challenges in your local environment

the challenges in your local environment

the challenges in your local environment again there are many countries out there

again there are many countries out there

again there are many countries out there that need your thinking to help improve

that need your thinking to help improve

that need your thinking to help improve what’s going on in their parts of the

what’s going on in their parts of the

what’s going on in their parts of the world for companies it’s a huge

world for companies it’s a huge

world for companies it’s a huge opportunity not only does talent become

opportunity not only does talent become

opportunity not only does talent become available from everywhere but it brings

available from everywhere but it brings

available from everywhere but it brings down certain costs and infrastructure

down certain costs and infrastructure

down certain costs and infrastructure things like lease or rentals for office

things like lease or rentals for office

things like lease or rentals for office spaces insurance premiums those are

spaces insurance premiums those are

spaces insurance premiums those are things that they can actually diversify

things that they can actually diversify

things that they can actually diversify because talent is so global and lastly

because talent is so global and lastly

because talent is so global and lastly governments if you look at Australia as

governments if you look at Australia as

governments if you look at Australia as an example we need more people to come

an example we need more people to come

an example we need more people to come to this country but if we’re gonna make

to this country but if we’re gonna make

to this country but if we’re gonna make it hard for them the time-being

it hard for them the time-being

it hard for them the time-being remote work is a potential way to bring

remote work is a potential way to bring

remote work is a potential way to bring in town from India and Korea and China

in town from India and Korea and China

in town from India and Korea and China and Japan and have their brain trust

and Japan and have their brain trust

and Japan and have their brain trust come to this country to help us improve

come to this country to help us improve

come to this country to help us improve what we stand for as Australians as well

what we stand for as Australians as well

what we stand for as Australians as well so I believe that remote work is

so I believe that remote work is

so I believe that remote work is important but I don’t believe everyone

important but I don’t believe everyone

important but I don’t believe everyone would choose to do it however the choice

would choose to do it however the choice

would choose to do it however the choice should always be there there may come a

should always be there there may come a

should always be there there may come a time in your life where you realize you

time in your life where you realize you

time in your life where you realize you need the flexibility of remote work and

need the flexibility of remote work and

need the flexibility of remote work and the idea here is that rather than us

the idea here is that rather than us

the idea here is that rather than us designing our lives around work we’re

designing our lives around work we’re

designing our lives around work we’re now designing work into our lives if you

now designing work into our lives if you

now designing work into our lives if you want to go have that child and go beyond

want to go have that child and go beyond

want to go have that child and go beyond math leave to try a whole new venture to

math leave to try a whole new venture to

math leave to try a whole new venture to try a whole new passion remote work

try a whole new passion remote work

try a whole new passion remote work could be that solution for you so I

could be that solution for you so I

could be that solution for you so I believe there are three layers here that

believe there are three layers here that

believe there are three layers here that everyone has to take part in for it to

everyone has to take part in for it to

everyone has to take part in for it to actually function well the first is

actually function well the first is

actually function well the first is individuals how do you make individual

individuals how do you make individual

individuals how do you make individual people attractive as remote workers so

people attractive as remote workers so

people attractive as remote workers so they get hired – how do we help

they get hired – how do we help

they get hired – how do we help companies become great places to work

companies become great places to work

companies become great places to work and to facilitate remote work and three

and to facilitate remote work and three

and to facilitate remote work and three how do we have government’s initiate

how do we have government’s initiate

how do we have government’s initiate legislation or other types of kickstart

legislation or other types of kickstart

legislation or other types of kickstart initiatives that can encourage remote

initiatives that can encourage remote

initiatives that can encourage remote working I’m going to start with

working I’m going to start with

working I’m going to start with individuals and there are three things I

individuals and there are three things I

individuals and there are three things I believe that us as individuals

believe that us as individuals

believe that us as individuals to become great remote workers and for

to become great remote workers and for

to become great remote workers and for all of you here today I encourage you to

all of you here today I encourage you to

all of you here today I encourage you to think of these three qualities in your

think of these three qualities in your

think of these three qualities in your own lives and how you can improve them

own lives and how you can improve them

own lives and how you can improve them to become better workers but also that

to become better workers but also that

to become better workers but also that when you’re in an interview environment

when you’re in an interview environment

when you’re in an interview environment push these three traits about yourself

push these three traits about yourself

push these three traits about yourself towards them but towards I guess the

towards them but towards I guess the

towards them but towards I guess the interview the employer who’s

interview the employer who’s

interview the employer who’s interviewing you

interviewing you

interviewing you the first one is organizational skills

the first one is organizational skills

the first one is organizational skills how organized are you are you someone

how organized are you are you someone

how organized are you are you someone that has to be chased for your

that has to be chased for your

that has to be chased for your to-do-list

to-do-list

to-do-list are you someone that finally use some of

are you someone that finally use some of

are you someone that finally use some of the procrastinates a lot if you can

the procrastinates a lot if you can

the procrastinates a lot if you can improve those types of skills around

improve those types of skills around

improve those types of skills around organization you’re going to become a

organization you’re going to become a

organization you’re going to become a much more attractive remote worker the

much more attractive remote worker the

much more attractive remote worker the second one is communication how well do

second one is communication how well do

second one is communication how well do you speak to people in fact are you

you speak to people in fact are you

you speak to people in fact are you violating you allow you trialing you

violating you allow you trialing you

violating you allow you trialing you will how effectively do you communicate

will how effectively do you communicate

will how effectively do you communicate to get a task done would be right now at

to get a task done would be right now at

to get a task done would be right now at school or maybe in your office drug that

school or maybe in your office drug that

school or maybe in your office drug that you have at the moment the better you

you have at the moment the better you

you have at the moment the better you are communicating again the more

are communicating again the more

are communicating again the more attractive you will be as a remote

attractive you will be as a remote

attractive you will be as a remote worker and lastly process what do you

worker and lastly process what do you

worker and lastly process what do you bring to the table to effectively

bring to the table to effectively

bring to the table to effectively organize and communicate with a team

organize and communicate with a team

organize and communicate with a team with a group of students to collaborate

with a group of students to collaborate

with a group of students to collaborate or even to work autonomously because

or even to work autonomously because

or even to work autonomously because when you work remotely you’re going to

when you work remotely you’re going to

when you work remotely you’re going to be facing irregular hours and that’s

be facing irregular hours and that’s

be facing irregular hours and that’s going to mean communicating when you’re

going to mean communicating when you’re

going to mean communicating when you’re available and when you’re not available

available and when you’re not available

available and when you’re not available and making sure that everything is

and making sure that everything is

and making sure that everything is organized and in place to get your work

organized and in place to get your work

organized and in place to get your work done and so the rest of your team can

done and so the rest of your team can

done and so the rest of your team can get their work done it’s also going to

get their work done it’s also going to

get their work done it’s also going to need a lot of autonomy you’re gonna have

need a lot of autonomy you’re gonna have

need a lot of autonomy you’re gonna have independence to set your own schedule

independence to set your own schedule

independence to set your own schedule but it’s also gonna be very lonely

but it’s also gonna be very lonely

but it’s also gonna be very lonely you’re not gonna be seeing people for a

you’re not gonna be seeing people for a

you’re not gonna be seeing people for a long time I work in a company with 26

long time I work in a company with 26

long time I work in a company with 26 people who are distributed across 10

people who are distributed across 10

people who are distributed across 10 countries

countries

countries I actually just flew back yesterday from

I actually just flew back yesterday from

I actually just flew back yesterday from France after seeing them for our global

France after seeing them for our global

France after seeing them for our global off-site I’m a bit jet-lagged but it’s

off-site I’m a bit jet-lagged but it’s

off-site I’m a bit jet-lagged but it’s worth it knowing that I can see my

worth it knowing that I can see my

worth it knowing that I can see my colleagues once maybe twice a year

colleagues once maybe twice a year

colleagues once maybe twice a year however most of the year are pretty

however most of the year are pretty

however most of the year are pretty lonely I’m by myself

lonely I’m by myself

lonely I’m by myself the third is visibility and

the third is visibility and

the third is visibility and deliverability in our office drugs were

deliverability in our office drugs were

deliverability in our office drugs were so fine-tuned to be at our desk at 9:00

so fine-tuned to be at our desk at 9:00

so fine-tuned to be at our desk at 9:00 a.m. maybe earlier maybe even staying in

a.m. maybe earlier maybe even staying in

a.m. maybe earlier maybe even staying in our desk longer past 5:00 p.m. so people

our desk longer past 5:00 p.m. so people

our desk longer past 5:00 p.m. so people think we’re working hard in remote

think we’re working hard in remote

think we’re working hard in remote workers our visit

workers our visit

workers our visit it’s always gonna be about what you got

it’s always gonna be about what you got

it’s always gonna be about what you got done that day what you got done that

done that day what you got done that

done that day what you got done that week is the project moving forward

week is the project moving forward

week is the project moving forward that’s what’s important to remote work

that’s what’s important to remote work

that’s what’s important to remote work environment and lastly how do you

environment and lastly how do you

environment and lastly how do you navigate very inconsistent workplace

navigate very inconsistent workplace

navigate very inconsistent workplace structures I’ve worked on airport floors

structures I’ve worked on airport floors

structures I’ve worked on airport floors I work in a desk in my house I work at

I work in a desk in my house I work at

I work in a desk in my house I work at coffee shops

coffee shops

coffee shops I work anywhere through stable Wi-Fi but

I work anywhere through stable Wi-Fi but

I work anywhere through stable Wi-Fi but I didn’t realize how difficult that

I didn’t realize how difficult that

I didn’t realize how difficult that would be after I left my cubicle the

would be after I left my cubicle the

would be after I left my cubicle the more you can navigate these

more you can navigate these

more you can navigate these uncertainties around remote work the

uncertainties around remote work the

uncertainties around remote work the more attractive you would be to

more attractive you would be to

more attractive you would be to companies that are looking to hire you

companies that are looking to hire you

companies that are looking to hire you so I’m gonna take you to South Korea

so I’m gonna take you to South Korea

so I’m gonna take you to South Korea where a very unique experiments taking

where a very unique experiments taking

where a very unique experiments taking place I don’t know how many of you are

place I don’t know how many of you are

place I don’t know how many of you are familiar with South Korea but it

familiar with South Korea but it

familiar with South Korea but it actually has one of the highest suicide

actually has one of the highest suicide

actually has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and a big component

rates in the world and a big component

rates in the world and a big component of that is related to the way they work

of that is related to the way they work

of that is related to the way they work they’re overworked they worked really

they’re overworked they worked really

they’re overworked they worked really long hours and they work in a very

long hours and they work in a very

long hours and they work in a very competitive environment and the reason

competitive environment and the reason

competitive environment and the reason that happened is because the company

that happened is because the company

that happened is because the company went from war-torn poverty after the

went from war-torn poverty after the

went from war-torn poverty after the Korean War into incredible fast-paced

Korean War into incredible fast-paced

Korean War into incredible fast-paced economic growth and change making them

economic growth and change making them

economic growth and change making them one of the kind of best examples of how

one of the kind of best examples of how

one of the kind of best examples of how you go from rags to riches in that 70

you go from rags to riches in that 70

you go from rags to riches in that 70 year period they grew as manufacturers

year period they grew as manufacturers

year period they grew as manufacturers they literally are big the biggest

they literally are big the biggest

they literally are big the biggest shipbuilders in the world and wanting

shipbuilders in the world and wanting

shipbuilders in the world and wanting the other things like TVs cars mobile

the other things like TVs cars mobile

the other things like TVs cars mobile homes but as manufacturing declined they

homes but as manufacturing declined they

homes but as manufacturing declined they continued to work in that very hard work

continued to work in that very hard work

continued to work in that very hard work ethic that was no longer possible in a

ethic that was no longer possible in a

ethic that was no longer possible in a service sector based economy as they

service sector based economy as they

service sector based economy as they transition towards service sector based

transition towards service sector based

transition towards service sector based economy this is giving my one bad joke

economy this is giving my one bad joke

economy this is giving my one bad joke but the ship literally sailed on them

to tie it back to the suicide problem

to tie it back to the suicide problem this economic reality their inability to

this economic reality their inability to

this economic reality their inability to transition to the service sector based

transition to the service sector based

transition to the service sector based economy is freaking everybody out

economy is freaking everybody out

economy is freaking everybody out parents who don’t want to be a burden on

parents who don’t want to be a burden on

parents who don’t want to be a burden on their children because Korea is a very

their children because Korea is a very

their children because Korea is a very family unit country when you go into the

family unit country when you go into the

family unit country when you go into the workforce you’re not just supporting

workforce you’re not just supporting

workforce you’re not just supporting yourself and your spouse and your

yourself and your spouse and your

yourself and your spouse and your children you’re supporting the rest of

children you’re supporting the rest of

children you’re supporting the rest of your family do parents do want to be a

your family do parents do want to be a

your family do parents do want to be a burden to that so they’re taking their

burden to that so they’re taking their

burden to that so they’re taking their lives young people coming out of the

lives young people coming out of the

lives young people coming out of the competitiveness competitiveness of

competitiveness competitiveness of

competitiveness competitiveness of school and going into this work

school and going into this work

school and going into this work environment really working themselves

environment really working themselves

environment really working themselves today so the Korean government said okay

today so the Korean government said okay

today so the Korean government said okay we need to change the way we think about

we need to change the way we think about

we need to change the way we think about work because the next generation of

work because the next generation of

work because the next generation of workers are going to be responsible for

workers are going to be responsible for

workers are going to be responsible for our economy and we cannot have them

our economy and we cannot have them

our economy and we cannot have them committing suicide of the rates that

committing suicide of the rates that

committing suicide of the rates that they’re doing so now so they turn into

they’re doing so now so they turn into

they’re doing so now so they turn into companies they said we need to work

companies they said we need to work

companies they said we need to work together to figure out strategies to

together to figure out strategies to

together to figure out strategies to change the way people work this is what

change the way people work this is what

change the way people work this is what they did the government and companies

they did the government and companies

they did the government and companies got together and the government said

got together and the government said

got together and the government said look companies like Samsung Kia Kakao

look companies like Samsung Kia Kakao

look companies like Samsung Kia Kakao all of you guys regula tons of money and

all of you guys regula tons of money and

all of you guys regula tons of money and with that money you’re gonna build these

with that money you’re gonna build these

with that money you’re gonna build these kind of co-working ventures these places

kind of co-working ventures these places

kind of co-working ventures these places where students entrepreneurs even

where students entrepreneurs even

where students entrepreneurs even existing companies can come and work

existing companies can come and work

existing companies can come and work together we’ll teach them how to

together we’ll teach them how to

together we’ll teach them how to generate new ideas how to generate new

generate new ideas how to generate new

generate new ideas how to generate new companies how to work differently and in

companies how to work differently and in

companies how to work differently and in effect make them better workers that in

effect make them better workers that in

effect make them better workers that in turn will kick-start our economy again

turn will kick-start our economy again

turn will kick-start our economy again those ideas come into shape of people

those ideas come into shape of people

those ideas come into shape of people like me coming to Korea to talk to kids

like me coming to Korea to talk to kids

like me coming to Korea to talk to kids and students and even existing

and students and even existing

and students and even existing established companies and saying this is

established companies and saying this is

established companies and saying this is why you should think about something

why you should think about something

why you should think about something like remote work or different strategies

like remote work or different strategies

like remote work or different strategies to help people think differently about

to help people think differently about

to help people think differently about work even something as simple as how do

work even something as simple as how do

work even something as simple as how do I talk to my parents about working in a

I talk to my parents about working in a

I talk to my parents about working in a start-up working virtually as opposed to

start-up working virtually as opposed to

start-up working virtually as opposed to going and working in a factory how do I

going and working in a factory how do I

going and working in a factory how do I talk to my parents about if I fail at

talk to my parents about if I fail at

talk to my parents about if I fail at this company is not the end of the world

this company is not the end of the world

this company is not the end of the world I can start over again because those are

I can start over again because those are

I can start over again because those are still missing

still missing

still missing like South Korea there’s also a lot of

like South Korea there’s also a lot of

like South Korea there’s also a lot of pure learning how can students that have

pure learning how can students that have

pure learning how can students that have achieved this kind of work or

achieved this kind of work or

achieved this kind of work or entrepreneurs that of a cheetah’s kind

entrepreneurs that of a cheetah’s kind

entrepreneurs that of a cheetah’s kind of work in Korea talk to each other and

of work in Korea talk to each other and

of work in Korea talk to each other and share with each other and be a support

share with each other and be a support

share with each other and be a support base to each other rather than being

base to each other rather than being

base to each other rather than being segregated and independent and lastly

segregated and independent and lastly

segregated and independent and lastly how can they build networks if I go

how can they build networks if I go

how can they build networks if I go ahead and build a company because of

ahead and build a company because of

ahead and build a company because of that that co-working space what network

that that co-working space what network

that that co-working space what network and my building to then go so show

and my building to then go so show

and my building to then go so show someone else how to do it and how does

someone else how to do it and how does

someone else how to do it and how does that pump money back into the whole

that pump money back into the whole

that pump money back into the whole system so we’re continually recycling

system so we’re continually recycling

system so we’re continually recycling this knowledge that goes through to

this knowledge that goes through to

this knowledge that goes through to everybody for companies after talking at

everybody for companies after talking at

everybody for companies after talking at individuals companies also have to play

individuals companies also have to play

individuals companies also have to play a part and how remote workers can be

a part and how remote workers can be

a part and how remote workers can be encouraged to do their best work in an

encouraged to do their best work in an

encouraged to do their best work in an environment there’s three things there

environment there’s three things there

environment there’s three things there they have to do as well one they gonna

they have to do as well one they gonna

they have to do as well one they gonna start small I think we all know far too

start small I think we all know far too

start small I think we all know far too well instances where we want to make big

well instances where we want to make big

well instances where we want to make big change we do very big things and when we

change we do very big things and when we

change we do very big things and when we fail big we never go back to trying that

fail big we never go back to trying that

fail big we never go back to trying that problem again so by starting small and

problem again so by starting small and

problem again so by starting small and piloting and scaling accordingly you’re

piloting and scaling accordingly you’re

piloting and scaling accordingly you’re gonna see more companies that don’t

gonna see more companies that don’t

gonna see more companies that don’t promote work because they’re mitigating

promote work because they’re mitigating

promote work because they’re mitigating the risk and the uncertainty rather than

the risk and the uncertainty rather than

the risk and the uncertainty rather than going at everything in one big go to

going at everything in one big go to

going at everything in one big go to they need to hire remote workers I just

they need to hire remote workers I just

they need to hire remote workers I just showed you what it takes to be a great

showed you what it takes to be a great

showed you what it takes to be a great remote worker and if you have those

remote worker and if you have those

remote worker and if you have those skills those organizational skills those

skills those organizational skills those

skills those organizational skills those communication skills and those process

communication skills and those process

communication skills and those process skills and you bring that into the

skills and you bring that into the

skills and you bring that into the company you’re making a stance to say

company you’re making a stance to say

company you’re making a stance to say these are the kinds of people we want to

these are the kinds of people we want to

these are the kinds of people we want to hire let’s hire more these people

hire let’s hire more these people

hire let’s hire more these people because if we know we have great

because if we know we have great

because if we know we have great organized great communicating great

organized great communicating great

organized great communicating great process-based people will publicly be

process-based people will publicly be

process-based people will publicly be much easier trying to scale out of

much easier trying to scale out of

much easier trying to scale out of network options and lastly

network options and lastly

network options and lastly discrimination you cannot discriminate

discrimination you cannot discriminate

discrimination you cannot discriminate when offering remote work as a company

when offering remote work as a company

when offering remote work as a company whether it’s for new mothers or for

whether it’s for new mothers or for

whether it’s for new mothers or for fathers who want to go to their new

fathers who want to go to their new

fathers who want to go to their new families if they have the opportunity to

families if they have the opportunity to

families if they have the opportunity to work remotely then it should also be

work remotely then it should also be

work remotely then it should also be given to Millennials who may not have

given to Millennials who may not have

given to Millennials who may not have children or other types of

children or other types of

children or other types of responsibilities like family it may not

responsibilities like family it may not

responsibilities like family it may not look the same that’s

look the same that’s

look the same that’s ability but it should be provided and

ability but it should be provided and

ability but it should be provided and it’s when you discriminate that the

it’s when you discriminate that the

it’s when you discriminate that the problems really start to occur

problems really start to occur

problems really start to occur now I had so I told you earlier in the

now I had so I told you earlier in the

now I had so I told you earlier in the individual section what you can do to

individual section what you can do to

individual section what you can do to improve yourself when you’re in these

improve yourself when you’re in these

improve yourself when you’re in these interviews or talking to employers that

interviews or talking to employers that

interviews or talking to employers that about remote work in this instance you

about remote work in this instance you

about remote work in this instance you can actually ask employers are they

can actually ask employers are they

can actually ask employers are they doing these things do they have a pilot

doing these things do they have a pilot

doing these things do they have a pilot for remote work do they encourage to

for remote work do they encourage to

for remote work do they encourage to hire and other above workers how do they

hire and other above workers how do they

hire and other above workers how do they give the opportunity for remote work to

give the opportunity for remote work to

give the opportunity for remote work to other people inside the organization in

other people inside the organization in

other people inside the organization in fact what kind of software they’re using

fact what kind of software they’re using

fact what kind of software they’re using to talk to each other to communicate

to talk to each other to communicate

to talk to each other to communicate with each other what kind of rules and

with each other what kind of rules and

with each other what kind of rules and regulations they have in place to meet

regulations they have in place to meet

regulations they have in place to meet the demands of a remote work environment

the demands of a remote work environment

the demands of a remote work environment what kind of metrics are in place again

what kind of metrics are in place again

what kind of metrics are in place again I’d said earlier that’s not about

I’d said earlier that’s not about

I’d said earlier that’s not about visibility it’s about deliverability

visibility it’s about deliverability

visibility it’s about deliverability what are you getting done and how we’re

what are you getting done and how we’re

what are you getting done and how we’re gonna measure that our remote workforce

gonna measure that our remote workforce

gonna measure that our remote workforce is doing really well if they’re doing

is doing really well if they’re doing

is doing really well if they’re doing really bad and lastly what are the

really bad and lastly what are the

really bad and lastly what are the incentives is there something different

incentives is there something different

incentives is there something different beyond just bonus and a pay raise that

beyond just bonus and a pay raise that

beyond just bonus and a pay raise that will allow me to do great work and

will allow me to do great work and

will allow me to do great work and sometimes these can all be tied together

sometimes these can all be tied together

sometimes these can all be tied together can you imagine the incentive where

can you imagine the incentive where

can you imagine the incentive where because you did really well for six

because you did really well for six

because you did really well for six months you got a higher allowance to

months you got a higher allowance to

months you got a higher allowance to maybe improve your home office because

maybe improve your home office because

maybe improve your home office because that’s maybe where you work from I can’t

that’s maybe where you work from I can’t

that’s maybe where you work from I can’t take you Israel now I hope you’ve

take you Israel now I hope you’ve

take you Israel now I hope you’ve noticed this email bruh I’m hopping

noticed this email bruh I’m hopping

noticed this email bruh I’m hopping around the world a bit because it’s a

around the world a bit because it’s a

around the world a bit because it’s a very globalized presentation and in

very globalized presentation and in

very globalized presentation and in Israel there’s a company called apps

Israel there’s a company called apps

Israel there’s a company called apps fire they’re a marketing company they

fire they’re a marketing company they

fire they’re a marketing company they decided to pilot a program that would

decided to pilot a program that would

decided to pilot a program that would encourage remote working inside the

encourage remote working inside the

encourage remote working inside the organization and what they did was they

organization and what they did was they

organization and what they did was they created a global employee exchange

created a global employee exchange

created a global employee exchange program Apps flyer has headquarters all

program Apps flyer has headquarters all

program Apps flyer has headquarters all around the world and they decided that

around the world and they decided that

around the world and they decided that when they hire new employees you have to

when they hire new employees you have to

when they hire new employees you have to spend one year working in the local

spend one year working in the local

spend one year working in the local environment so if I work in Tel Aviv I’m

environment so if I work in Tel Aviv I’m

environment so if I work in Tel Aviv I’m gonna spend one year at the Tel Aviv

gonna spend one year at the Tel Aviv

gonna spend one year at the Tel Aviv office in that one year I’m gonna be

office in that one year I’m gonna be

office in that one year I’m gonna be taught how to organize myself how do I

taught how to organize myself how do I

taught how to organize myself how do I move my communication skills and how to

move my communication skills and how to

move my communication skills and how to improve my processes and after one year

improve my processes and after one year

improve my processes and after one year if I myself and the company believes

if I myself and the company believes

if I myself and the company believes that I’ve done a good job I’m gonna be

that I’ve done a good job I’m gonna be

that I’ve done a good job I’m gonna be allowed to work from any one of their

allowed to work from any one of their

allowed to work from any one of their other offices around the world

other offices around the world

other offices around the world Bangkok be that Sydney be that New York

Bangkok be that Sydney be that New York

Bangkok be that Sydney be that New York City

City

City this isn’t complete remote work

this isn’t complete remote work

this isn’t complete remote work independence but it is the pilot and the

independence but it is the pilot and the

independence but it is the pilot and the starting kind of foundation for how we

starting kind of foundation for how we

starting kind of foundation for how we organize and facilitate great remote

organize and facilitate great remote

organize and facilitate great remote work

work

work lastly I’m going to talk about

lastly I’m going to talk about

lastly I’m going to talk about governments because we need governments

governments because we need governments

governments because we need governments to protect workers we need governments

to protect workers we need governments

to protect workers we need governments think about how we never get the right

think about how we never get the right

think about how we never get the right legislation to facilitate this new kind

legislation to facilitate this new kind

legislation to facilitate this new kind of working especially this change in

of working especially this change in

of working especially this change in perception of working for starters

perception of working for starters

perception of working for starters government needs to think about

government needs to think about

government needs to think about immigration I think mobility is one of

immigration I think mobility is one of

immigration I think mobility is one of the biggest issues of our time right now

the biggest issues of our time right now

the biggest issues of our time right now especially as it pertains to work if we

especially as it pertains to work if we

especially as it pertains to work if we don’t allow people to move freely to get

don’t allow people to move freely to get

don’t allow people to move freely to get better jobs so we’re gonna stagnate our

better jobs so we’re gonna stagnate our

better jobs so we’re gonna stagnate our economies Australia is a good example of

economies Australia is a good example of

economies Australia is a good example of that right now I’m gonna share pretty

that right now I’m gonna share pretty

that right now I’m gonna share pretty big opinion but until we allow more

big opinion but until we allow more

big opinion but until we allow more people to come in with new ideas we’re

people to come in with new ideas we’re

people to come in with new ideas we’re gonna be pretty stuck as a country and

gonna be pretty stuck as a country and

gonna be pretty stuck as a country and so if we can’t open that up we’re not

so if we can’t open that up we’re not

so if we can’t open that up we’re not going to open up new possibilities new

going to open up new possibilities new

going to open up new possibilities new types of companies new types of

types of companies new types of

types of companies new types of industries beyond what we have right now

industries beyond what we have right now

industries beyond what we have right now in addition to that there has to be

in addition to that there has to be

in addition to that there has to be legislation in place what are we giving

legislation in place what are we giving

legislation in place what are we giving companies through certain incentives or

companies through certain incentives or

companies through certain incentives or subsidies to hire these types of workers

subsidies to hire these types of workers

subsidies to hire these types of workers to think about work in this way how are

to think about work in this way how are

to think about work in this way how are we putting retraining initiatives into

we putting retraining initiatives into

we putting retraining initiatives into place or legislation for education that

place or legislation for education that

place or legislation for education that will train students the skills that they

will train students the skills that they

will train students the skills that they need to navigate a new work market and

need to navigate a new work market and

need to navigate a new work market and then when we do have jobs how are they

then when we do have jobs how are they

then when we do have jobs how are they being projected for healthcare and

being projected for healthcare and

being projected for healthcare and insurance and retirement these are all

insurance and retirement these are all

insurance and retirement these are all big things that we need to think about

big things that we need to think about

big things that we need to think about not just for people who work in one

not just for people who work in one

not just for people who work in one space but for people who work in many

space but for people who work in many

space but for people who work in many different places and then lastly what

different places and then lastly what

different places and then lastly what kind of Kickstarter initiatives can we

kind of Kickstarter initiatives can we

kind of Kickstarter initiatives can we put into place the grants are funding

put into place the grants are funding

put into place the grants are funding that will encourage individuals and

that will encourage individuals and

that will encourage individuals and companies and maybe even NGOs to think

companies and maybe even NGOs to think

companies and maybe even NGOs to think about training people to think about

about training people to think about

about training people to think about remote worker so the last example I’m

remote worker so the last example I’m

remote worker so the last example I’m going to take you to use in Portland in

going to take you to use in Portland in

going to take you to use in Portland in the United States where an organization

the United States where an organization

the United States where an organization turned apprenticeships on their head on

turned apprenticeships on their head on

turned apprenticeships on their head on its head I suppose in Australia we know

its head I suppose in Australia we know

its head I suppose in Australia we know apprenticeships to be a very big deal

apprenticeships to be a very big deal

apprenticeships to be a very big deal because we have a very big trade culture

because we have a very big trade culture

because we have a very big trade culture here or a tradie culture plumbers

here or a tradie culture plumbers

here or a tradie culture plumbers electricians construction workers

electricians construction workers

electricians construction workers apprenticeships trained you to know how

apprenticeships trained you to know how

apprenticeships trained you to know how to do the job and they pay

to do the job and they pay

to do the job and they pay decently inane sure that you commit a

decently inane sure that you commit a

decently inane sure that you commit a certain about hours to relevant training

certain about hours to relevant training

certain about hours to relevant training internships on the other hand in the

internships on the other hand in the

internships on the other hand in the service sector largely you don’t really

service sector largely you don’t really

service sector largely you don’t really know if they work and if definitely most

know if they work and if definitely most

know if they work and if definitely most people will tell you well yeah they help

people will tell you well yeah they help

people will tell you well yeah they help you but for the large subset of people

you but for the large subset of people

you but for the large subset of people it didn’t really work so this

it didn’t really work so this

it didn’t really work so this organization took the idea on its head

organization took the idea on its head

organization took the idea on its head and went to service based industries and

and went to service based industries and

and went to service based industries and said we’re gonna actually make

said we’re gonna actually make

said we’re gonna actually make internships apprenticeships by law in

internships apprenticeships by law in

internships apprenticeships by law in the tech community and by doing that

the tech community and by doing that

the tech community and by doing that we’re gonna make sure that companies

we’re gonna make sure that companies

we’re gonna make sure that companies bring in cohorts of apprenticeships

bring in cohorts of apprenticeships

bring in cohorts of apprenticeships train them pay them to work differently

train them pay them to work differently

train them pay them to work differently to think differently about their jobs

to think differently about their jobs

to think differently about their jobs and to prepare them for the realities of

and to prepare them for the realities of

and to prepare them for the realities of the new working dynamic and if we train

the new working dynamic and if we train

the new working dynamic and if we train them well enough we hope that they will

them well enough we hope that they will

them well enough we hope that they will stay in these companies and these are

stay in these companies and these are

stay in these companies and these are big companies like Microsoft Cisco

big companies like Microsoft Cisco

big companies like Microsoft Cisco they’re taking in these cohorts and

they’re taking in these cohorts and

they’re taking in these cohorts and they’re giving them these

they’re giving them these

they’re giving them these apprenticeships to actually train them

apprenticeships to actually train them

apprenticeships to actually train them on the job they’re meant to do and part

on the job they’re meant to do and part

on the job they’re meant to do and part of that is to show them how to work

of that is to show them how to work

of that is to show them how to work remotely and even if they do leave

remotely and even if they do leave

remotely and even if they do leave there’s always this fear that if I train

there’s always this fear that if I train

there’s always this fear that if I train my employees too much they’ll leave well

my employees too much they’ll leave well

my employees too much they’ll leave well if you train them too much and you treat

if you train them too much and you treat

if you train them too much and you treat them well they probably stay but at

them well they probably stay but at

them well they probably stay but at least if they do leave they go back into

least if they do leave they go back into

least if they do leave they go back into the ecosystem of jobs that much stronger

the ecosystem of jobs that much stronger

the ecosystem of jobs that much stronger that much more enriched and those skills

that much more enriched and those skills

that much more enriched and those skills are transferable even if the job goes

are transferable even if the job goes

are transferable even if the job goes away the skills are transferable so the

away the skills are transferable so the

away the skills are transferable so the last thing I leave you with is is this

last thing I leave you with is is this

last thing I leave you with is is this kind of statement no other generation

kind of statement no other generation

kind of statement no other generation has the freedom to carve out its own

has the freedom to carve out its own

has the freedom to carve out its own lifestyle I grew up in a time where I’ve

lifestyle I grew up in a time where I’ve

lifestyle I grew up in a time where I’ve had the freedom to choose where I want

had the freedom to choose where I want

had the freedom to choose where I want to work I live in Australia today not

to work I live in Australia today not

to work I live in Australia today not because I work in Australia I live here

because I work in Australia I live here

because I work in Australia I live here because I love living here this is my

because I love living here this is my

because I love living here this is my country and I love it so much my parents

country and I love it so much my parents

country and I love it so much my parents didn’t have that choice they left their

didn’t have that choice they left their

didn’t have that choice they left their home country because they knew that if

home country because they knew that if

home country because they knew that if they had if they stayed where they were

they had if they stayed where they were

they had if they stayed where they were they probably would have not been as

they probably would have not been as

they probably would have not been as successful as they are now for them it

successful as they are now for them it

successful as they are now for them it was a huge gamble for me and my

was a huge gamble for me and my

was a huge gamble for me and my girlfriend it wasn’t so much and so to

girlfriend it wasn’t so much and so to

girlfriend it wasn’t so much and so to all of you today whether you’re a parent

all of you today whether you’re a parent

all of you today whether you’re a parent or you’re a young student or you’re just

or you’re a young student or you’re just

or you’re a young student or you’re just entering the workforce for the first

entering the workforce for the first

entering the workforce for the first time I encourage you to take that

time I encourage you to take that

time I encourage you to take that freedom to choose to ask employers would

freedom to choose to ask employers would

freedom to choose to ask employers would you be interested if I were to remotely

you be interested if I were to remotely

you be interested if I were to remotely here’s how I’ll make that happen if you

here’s how I’ll make that happen if you

here’s how I’ll make that happen if you are in a company that

are in a company that

are in a company that you’re responsible for recruitment think

you’re responsible for recruitment think

you’re responsible for recruitment think about hiring people young kids veterans

about hiring people young kids veterans

about hiring people young kids veterans in the field who facilitate or at least

in the field who facilitate or at least

in the field who facilitate or at least display the ideas of remote work because

display the ideas of remote work because

display the ideas of remote work because they will enrich your organization and

they will enrich your organization and

they will enrich your organization and if you have an impact with government I

if you have an impact with government I

if you have an impact with government I encourage you to think about how new

encourage you to think about how new

encourage you to think about how new legislation and new protection could

legislation and new protection could

legislation and new protection could actually facilitate remote work because

actually facilitate remote work because

actually facilitate remote work because if we can move talent around we’re gonna

if we can move talent around we’re gonna

if we can move talent around we’re gonna make the world so much better in terms

make the world so much better in terms

make the world so much better in terms of skills and in terms of the jobs that

of skills and in terms of the jobs that

of skills and in terms of the jobs that are available thank you

are available thank you

are available thank you [Applause]

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