in electronic music it’s very male-dominated as you can kind of see
male-dominated as you can kind of see
male-dominated as you can kind of see when you look at festival lineups and
when you look at festival lineups and
when you look at festival lineups and there’s not a lot of women so there’s
there’s not a lot of women so there’s
there’s not a lot of women so there’s this really great blog actually that
this really great blog actually that
this really great blog actually that shows sort of sort of festival flyers
shows sort of sort of festival flyers
shows sort of sort of festival flyers and they’ve actually taken out all the
and they’ve actually taken out all the
and they’ve actually taken out all the men in the Flyers and it’s looking
men in the Flyers and it’s looking
men in the Flyers and it’s looking pretty sparse there’s only like only the
pretty sparse there’s only like only the
pretty sparse there’s only like only the odd one also actually behind the scenes
odd one also actually behind the scenes
odd one also actually behind the scenes in the industry there’s only around 30%
in the industry there’s only around 30%
in the industry there’s only around 30% of women actually that Manito do
of women actually that Manito do
of women actually that Manito do management roles live sector roles or in
management roles live sector roles or in
management roles live sector roles or in promotion also with this scheme with PRS
promotion also with this scheme with PRS
promotion also with this scheme with PRS is called a women make music and they
is called a women make music and they
is called a women make music and they did a sort of a questionnaire after
did a sort of a questionnaire after
did a sort of a questionnaire after after the scheme and it was like 78% of
after the scheme and it was like 78% of
after the scheme and it was like 78% of women there had experienced sexism in
women there had experienced sexism in
women there had experienced sexism in the workplace in the work person in the
the workplace in the work person in the
the workplace in the work person in the music industry and and didn’t feel like
music industry and and didn’t feel like
music industry and and didn’t feel like had any sort of recognition for what
had any sort of recognition for what
had any sort of recognition for what they did as a woman in the industry so
they did as a woman in the industry so
they did as a woman in the industry so actually it’s quite funny when I when I
actually it’s quite funny when I when I
actually it’s quite funny when I when I was preparing for this talk I was like
was preparing for this talk I was like
was preparing for this talk I was like ooh gulps female DJs just to make a
ooh gulps female DJs just to make a
ooh gulps female DJs just to make a general thing and there was quite
general thing and there was quite
general thing and there was quite there’s a few articles which were good
there’s a few articles which were good
there’s a few articles which were good like you can always rely on like
like you can always rely on like
like you can always rely on like Resident Advisor or something like
Resident Advisor or something like
Resident Advisor or something like there’s always something good in there
there’s always something good in there
there’s always something good in there but then every now and again something
but then every now and again something
but then every now and again something slipped in being like 10 hottest female
slipped in being like 10 hottest female
slipped in being like 10 hottest female DJs or something like the 10 sexiest
DJs or something like the 10 sexiest
DJs or something like the 10 sexiest female DJs it’s just like I don’t really
female DJs it’s just like I don’t really
female DJs it’s just like I don’t really think this is anything about their
think this is anything about their
think this is anything about their skills to be honest so I’m just gonna
skills to be honest so I’m just gonna
skills to be honest so I’m just gonna kind of populist those but when when
kind of populist those but when when
kind of populist those but when when looking at female DJs in the industry
looking at female DJs in the industry
looking at female DJs in the industry there’s this one that really stands out
there’s this one that really stands out
there’s this one that really stands out for me and says lady called the Black
for me and says lady called the Black
for me and says lady called the Black Madonna she is originally from Rouen
Madonna she is originally from Rouen
Madonna she is originally from Rouen Kentucky in a very small town where
Kentucky in a very small town where
Kentucky in a very small town where again music wasn’t that accessible well
again music wasn’t that accessible well
again music wasn’t that accessible well dance music wasn’t that accessible so
dance music wasn’t that accessible so
dance music wasn’t that accessible so she moved to Chicago to pursue her
she moved to Chicago to pursue her
she moved to Chicago to pursue her career as a DJ sort of it didn’t quite
career as a DJ sort of it didn’t quite
career as a DJ sort of it didn’t quite work out she was playing to a lot of
work out she was playing to a lot of
work out she was playing to a lot of empty rooms normally gave her the time
empty rooms normally gave her the time
empty rooms normally gave her the time of day she was doing it for no fees she
of day she was doing it for no fees she
of day she was doing it for no fees she was likely and she ended up in a job but
was likely and she ended up in a job but
was likely and she ended up in a job but she just hated and so she had to move
she just hated and so she had to move
she just hated and so she had to move but in the end she had to move back to
but in the end she had to move back to
but in the end she had to move back to to Turkey to live with her dad and there
to Turkey to live with her dad and there
to Turkey to live with her dad and there was this one moment this is this is all
was this one moment this is this is all
was this one moment this is this is all from an interview that I watched with
from an interview that I watched with
from an interview that I watched with her in and she said there’s this one
her in and she said there’s this one
her in and she said there’s this one moment where she was sat in her bed and
moment where she was sat in her bed and
moment where she was sat in her bed and she just felt
she just felt
she just felt rubbish she was just like this is my
rubbish she was just like this is my
rubbish she was just like this is my passion I can’t do it how is it not
passion I can’t do it how is it not
passion I can’t do it how is it not working out
working out
working out so she she put on this podcast which was
so she she put on this podcast which was
so she she put on this podcast which was actually it’s this thing called Optimo
actually it’s this thing called Optimo
actually it’s this thing called Optimo it’s the last party they had at sub Club
it’s the last party they had at sub Club
it’s the last party they had at sub Club which is this club in Glasgow which is
which is this club in Glasgow which is
which is this club in Glasgow which is really famous for free dance music there
really famous for free dance music there
really famous for free dance music there and she listened to it and it was
and she listened to it and it was
and she listened to it and it was playing all the music that she loved
playing all the music that she loved
playing all the music that she loved like what she was passionate about and
like what she was passionate about and
like what she was passionate about and it may again to her this turning point
it may again to her this turning point
it may again to her this turning point which he which he described as proof of
which he which he described as proof of
which he which he described as proof of life that there is somewhere out there
life that there is somewhere out there
life that there is somewhere out there even though it’s across the ocean it’s
even though it’s across the ocean it’s
even though it’s across the ocean it’s so far away but it’s something that she
so far away but it’s something that she
so far away but it’s something that she does and she loves and so instead of
does and she loves and so instead of
does and she loves and so instead of just giving up she persevered and she
just giving up she persevered and she
just giving up she persevered and she carried on she started buying records
carried on she started buying records
carried on she started buying records again and she moved back to Chicago and
again and she moved back to Chicago and
again and she moved back to Chicago and she started the Black Madonna projects
she started the Black Madonna projects
she started the Black Madonna projects she then as she started the Black
she then as she started the Black
she then as she started the Black Madonna project she started up writing
Madonna project she started up writing
Madonna project she started up writing up this post-it note to be like these
up this post-it note to be like these
up this post-it note to be like these are my achievements this is what I want
are my achievements this is what I want
are my achievements this is what I want to it like this is what I want to do now
to it like this is what I want to do now
to it like this is what I want to do now and within a year’s time she’s done all
and within a year’s time she’s done all
and within a year’s time she’s done all of them she’s like she’s dear she’s
of them she’s like she’s dear she’s
of them she’s like she’s dear she’s amazing she’s a she’s going she’s
amazing she’s a she’s going she’s
amazing she’s a she’s going she’s touring all over the world and she’s
touring all over the world and she’s
touring all over the world and she’s doing exactly what she wants to do and a
doing exactly what she wants to do and a
doing exactly what she wants to do and a part of this interview it’s like why why
part of this interview it’s like why why
part of this interview it’s like why why I have achieved so she’s 37 years old
I have achieved so she’s 37 years old
I have achieved so she’s 37 years old which in the dance industry if you’re
which in the dance industry if you’re
which in the dance industry if you’re just starting up that’s I guess is a
just starting up that’s I guess is a
just starting up that’s I guess is a perceived to be as old even though it’s
perceived to be as old even though it’s
perceived to be as old even though it’s kind of ridiculous but she’s like why
kind of ridiculous but she’s like why
kind of ridiculous but she’s like why didn’t you do it any earlier and she
didn’t you do it any earlier and she
didn’t you do it any earlier and she said well I just I didn’t see women out
said well I just I didn’t see women out
said well I just I didn’t see women out there I don’t see women deejaying and
there I don’t see women deejaying and
there I don’t see women deejaying and this is what kind of leads to my point
this is what kind of leads to my point
this is what kind of leads to my point of visibility it’s like we need to have
of visibility it’s like we need to have
of visibility it’s like we need to have more visibility as women in the dance
more visibility as women in the dance
more visibility as women in the dance industry so to see so women can see that
industry so to see so women can see that
industry so to see so women can see that you can do it so that it’s actually a
you can do it so that it’s actually a
you can do it so that it’s actually a possibility another point I want to make
possibility another point I want to make
possibility another point I want to make as well is about the structures of power
as well is about the structures of power
as well is about the structures of power and how it’s perceived and so there’s
and how it’s perceived and so there’s
and how it’s perceived and so there’s this other woman who I extremely at mind
this other woman who I extremely at mind
this other woman who I extremely at mind it’s this woman called Mary bitch she’s
it’s this woman called Mary bitch she’s
it’s this woman called Mary bitch she’s a historian so it might seem like I’m
a historian so it might seem like I’m
a historian so it might seem like I’m going on topic but I’ll get back there
going on topic but I’ll get back there
going on topic but I’ll get back there um she is a saurian and she did his
um she is a saurian and she did his
um she is a saurian and she did his podcast called women in power and it’s
podcast called women in power and it’s
podcast called women in power and it’s very relatable to a lot of industries
very relatable to a lot of industries
very relatable to a lot of industries around the wing and obviously in this
around the wing and obviously in this
around the wing and obviously in this sense it’s music so the structures of
sense it’s music so the structures of
sense it’s music so the structures of power is something is how do we how do
power is something is how do we how do
power is something is how do we how do we like how do we reform it so that
we like how do we reform it so that
we like how do we reform it so that women are inside this structure of power
women are inside this structure of power
women are inside this structure of power rather than on the outside h-how’d and
rather than on the outside h-how’d and
rather than on the outside h-how’d and it’s a way to think about it is not to
it’s a way to think about it is not to
it’s a way to think about it is not to be she said this amazing point of it is
be she said this amazing point of it is
be she said this amazing point of it is not not to be of not to be a noun so so
not not to be of not to be a noun so so
not not to be of not to be a noun so so have is a verb so say like
have is a verb so say like
have is a verb so say like to power so instead of a possession it’s
to power so instead of a possession it’s
to power so instead of a possession it’s it’s to have it’s it’s to be effective
it’s to have it’s it’s to be effective
it’s to have it’s it’s to be effective or to to make a change in the world so
or to to make a change in the world so
or to to make a change in the world so it’s just a different way of looking at
it’s just a different way of looking at
it’s just a different way of looking at it and then when we’re not whilst whilst
it and then when we’re not whilst whilst
it and then when we’re not whilst whilst I was watching it and I was like this is
I was watching it and I was like this is
I was watching it and I was like this is so great yes this is this is true this
so great yes this is this is true this
so great yes this is this is true this is what should happen and I was thinking
is what should happen and I was thinking
is what should happen and I was thinking about it and I was thinking about was
about it and I was thinking about was
about it and I was thinking about was like the bad stereotype so you get of
like the bad stereotype so you get of
like the bad stereotype so you get of women and I mean there’s quite a lot but
women and I mean there’s quite a lot but
women and I mean there’s quite a lot but this one that really shone out for me
this one that really shone out for me
this one that really shone out for me was is women being too emotional like to
was is women being too emotional like to
was is women being too emotional like to in touch with their emotions and ones
in touch with their emotions and ones
in touch with their emotions and ones like if a woman has just like has an
like if a woman has just like has an
like if a woman has just like has an opinion sometimes they can be perceived
opinion sometimes they can be perceived
opinion sometimes they can be perceived as sort of like crazy or something it’s
as sort of like crazy or something it’s
as sort of like crazy or something it’s just like she’s not just like no but but
just like she’s not just like no but but
just like she’s not just like no but but then so what I thought is with this
then so what I thought is with this
then so what I thought is with this stereotype why why is the stereotype of
stereotype why why is the stereotype of
stereotype why why is the stereotype of being too emotional why does the
being too emotional why does the
being too emotional why does the negative stereotype if you’re if if
negative stereotype if you’re if if
negative stereotype if you’re if if you’re thinking out a structure of power
you’re thinking out a structure of power
you’re thinking out a structure of power to do something to be emotional to be
to do something to be emotional to be
to do something to be emotional to be and when I look at these women who are
and when I look at these women who are
and when I look at these women who are who are doing really well in their in
who are doing really well in their in
who are doing really well in their in their careers it’s because they’re
their careers it’s because they’re
their careers it’s because they’re emotionally attached to this they’re
emotionally attached to this they’re
emotionally attached to this they’re doing it to make them happy so why why
doing it to make them happy so why why
doing it to make them happy so why why is being emotional about stereotype why
is being emotional about stereotype why
is being emotional about stereotype why can’t it be a form of power yeah yeah so
can’t it be a form of power yeah yeah so
can’t it be a form of power yeah yeah so why can’t it be a form of power and I
why can’t it be a form of power and I
why can’t it be a form of power and I really think it can be because looking
really think it can be because looking
really think it can be because looking at these women and how they through
at these women and how they through
at these women and how they through perseverance how they created this
perseverance how they created this
perseverance how they created this visibility is how like how is yet has
visibility is how like how is yet has
visibility is how like how is yet has how they’ve made it big and how they’re
how they’ve made it big and how they’re
how they’ve made it big and how they’re about it’s all about the emotional
about it’s all about the emotional
about it’s all about the emotional connection so yeah I I was really
connection so yeah I I was really
connection so yeah I I was really nervous about doing this talk because
nervous about doing this talk because
nervous about doing this talk because you might be able to tell she’s a little
you might be able to tell she’s a little
you might be able to tell she’s a little bit shaky and but I was still the point
bit shaky and but I was still the point
bit shaky and but I was still the point where I was like I can’t do it can’t do
where I was like I can’t do it can’t do
where I was like I can’t do it can’t do it and I spoke to my sister who she also
it and I spoke to my sister who she also
it and I spoke to my sister who she also works in music and she is a really big
works in music and she is a really big
works in music and she is a really big role model in my life and she was like
role model in my life and she was like
role model in my life and she was like you got do it
you got do it
you got do it you just got did it like don’t being at
you just got did it like don’t being at
you just got did it like don’t being at it you’ve got to it was like okay go to
it you’ve got to it was like okay go to
it you’ve got to it was like okay go to it and then after after I sat down and
it and then after after I sat down and
it and then after after I sat down and thought about it I was like I’m actually
thought about it I was like I’m actually
thought about it I was like I’m actually completely contradicting my beliefs like
completely contradicting my beliefs like
completely contradicting my beliefs like my my ideas and stuff like exactly what
my my ideas and stuff like exactly what
my my ideas and stuff like exactly what I’ve just told you I was doing the
I’ve just told you I was doing the
I’ve just told you I was doing the opposite I was like I was sat back
opposite I was like I was sat back
opposite I was like I was sat back hiding away and not making myself
hiding away and not making myself
hiding away and not making myself visible and so I was like right okay I’m
visible and so I was like right okay I’m
visible and so I was like right okay I’m gonna do it I’m going to be terrified
gonna do it I’m going to be terrified
gonna do it I’m going to be terrified I’m gonna do it so and but this talk
I’m gonna do it so and but this talk
I’m gonna do it so and but this talk like this talk has taught me a lot
like this talk has taught me a lot
like this talk has taught me a lot actually it’s not
actually it’s not
actually it’s not not actually just how to spell
not actually just how to spell
not actually just how to spell perseverance again finding out what it
perseverance again finding out what it
perseverance again finding out what it is and then spelling it is so uh but
is and then spelling it is so uh but
is and then spelling it is so uh but yeah not only that but it is made me
yeah not only that but it is made me
yeah not only that but it is made me realize that through perseverance it
realize that through perseverance it
realize that through perseverance it creates visibility and this visibility
creates visibility and this visibility
creates visibility and this visibility is something like extremely powerful and
is something like extremely powerful and
is something like extremely powerful and these women that are going out and doing
these women that are going out and doing
these women that are going out and doing it they’re they’re incredible role
it they’re they’re incredible role
it they’re they’re incredible role models and I and I hope that they carry
models and I and I hope that they carry
models and I and I hope that they carry on encouraging people because if there’s
on encouraging people because if there’s
on encouraging people because if there’s women out there who don’t want to do it
women out there who don’t want to do it
women out there who don’t want to do it with they’re too scared to do it then
with they’re too scared to do it then
with they’re too scared to do it then they see them and being like I can’t do
they see them and being like I can’t do
they see them and being like I can’t do it and just break through the barrier
it and just break through the barrier
it and just break through the barrier that we seem to have as women and so
that we seem to have as women and so
that we seem to have as women and so yeah it’s just it is it’s just breaking
yeah it’s just it is it’s just breaking
yeah it’s just it is it’s just breaking this barrier making so visible and sort
this barrier making so visible and sort
this barrier making so visible and sort of creating your own form of power
of creating your own form of power
of creating your own form of power but yeah thank you for listening
but yeah thank you for listening
but yeah thank you for listening [Applause]
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