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all right so uh back in October of 1910

all right so uh back in October of 1910 a guy by the name of Franklin Delano

a guy by the name of Franklin Delano

a guy by the name of Franklin Delano Roosevelt was running for state senator

Roosevelt was running for state senator

Roosevelt was running for state senator in the great state of New York and our

in the great state of New York and our

in the great state of New York and our buddy Frank he was having some troubles

buddy Frank he was having some troubles

buddy Frank he was having some troubles because he wasn’t really a known entity

because he wasn’t really a known entity

because he wasn’t really a known entity at the time uh and despite the fact that

at the time uh and despite the fact that

at the time uh and despite the fact that in New York City where he was living uh

in New York City where he was living uh

in New York City where he was living uh he was known and popular by Democratic

he was known and popular by Democratic

he was known and popular by Democratic donors and the Democratic electorate

donors and the Democratic electorate

donors and the Democratic electorate upstate he was either not known or sort

upstate he was either not known or sort

upstate he was either not known or sort of reviled reason being he was seen as

of reviled reason being he was seen as

of reviled reason being he was seen as this Silk Stocking city slicker who

this Silk Stocking city slicker who

this Silk Stocking city slicker who couldn’t possibly imagine the the plight

couldn’t possibly imagine the the plight

couldn’t possibly imagine the the plight of the working man and just couldn’t

of the working man and just couldn’t

of the working man and just couldn’t represent the the citizens of upstate

represent the the citizens of upstate

represent the the citizens of upstate New York I’m so he had to figure out

New York I’m so he had to figure out

New York I’m so he had to figure out like what the heck am I gonna do about

like what the heck am I gonna do about

like what the heck am I gonna do about this and after lots of thinking he came

this and after lots of thinking he came

this and after lots of thinking he came up with this sort of revolutionary idea

up with this sort of revolutionary idea

up with this sort of revolutionary idea which will sound funny now but this idea

which will sound funny now but this idea

which will sound funny now but this idea was you know what I’m gonna go campaign

was you know what I’m gonna go campaign

was you know what I’m gonna go campaign in a car and the reason that was

in a car and the reason that was

in a car and the reason that was revolutionary was because there are very

revolutionary was because there are very

revolutionary was because there are very few cars on the road at this time

few cars on the road at this time

few cars on the road at this time probably about the same amount then as

probably about the same amount then as

probably about the same amount then as there are self-driving cars on the road

there are self-driving cars on the road

there are self-driving cars on the road now so imagine like I don’t know who

now so imagine like I don’t know who

now so imagine like I don’t know who Indiana’s state senator is but driving

Indiana’s state senator is but driving

Indiana’s state senator is but driving around in a self-driving car you’d think

around in a self-driving car you’d think

around in a self-driving car you’d think like this guy’s kind of a piece of work

like this guy’s kind of a piece of work

like this guy’s kind of a piece of work so anyways he comes up with this plan

so anyways he comes up with this plan

so anyways he comes up with this plan he’s like this is gonna allow me to

he’s like this is gonna allow me to

he’s like this is gonna allow me to shake hands with more and more people

shake hands with more and more people

shake hands with more and more people who’s gonna be great however when he

who’s gonna be great however when he

who’s gonna be great however when he brought this proposal to his aides they

brought this proposal to his aides they

brought this proposal to his aides they were like Franklin you can’t do this is

were like Franklin you can’t do this is

were like Franklin you can’t do this is a terrible idea because there’s so few

a terrible idea because there’s so few

a terrible idea because there’s so few cars they’re seen as these luxury items

cars they’re seen as these luxury items

cars they’re seen as these luxury items that only the rich and wealthy have and

that only the rich and wealthy have and

that only the rich and wealthy have and it’s going to further ingrain the very

it’s going to further ingrain the very

it’s going to further ingrain the very idea that you were trying to dispel here

idea that you were trying to dispel here

idea that you were trying to dispel here that you are a city slicker with a bunch

that you are a city slicker with a bunch

that you are a city slicker with a bunch of money and he pushes back and says no

of money and he pushes back and says no

of money and he pushes back and says no no no no no I I will overcome that just

no no no no I I will overcome that just

no no no no I I will overcome that just let me do this thing so on a Sunday on a

let me do this thing so on a Sunday on a

let me do this thing so on a Sunday on a sunny morning I in early October he

sunny morning I in early October he

sunny morning I in early October he along with his driver who was a piano

along with his driver who was a piano

along with his driver who was a piano tuner and knew the back roads of upstate

tuner and knew the back roads of upstate

tuner and knew the back roads of upstate New York very well from going to house

New York very well from going to house

New York very well from going to house to house to tune the pianos they hopped

to house to tune the pianos they hopped

to house to tune the pianos they hopped in a red car with no roof and started

in a red car with no roof and started

in a red car with no roof and started winding their way through

winding their way through

winding their way through the dusty backroads of upstate New York

the dusty backroads of upstate New York

the dusty backroads of upstate New York and what they did was they yielded the

and what they did was they yielded the

and what they did was they yielded the right away to every horse and buggy that

right away to every horse and buggy that

right away to every horse and buggy that that they came across and more than that

that they came across and more than that

that they came across and more than that every time they passed a field with a

every time they passed a field with a

every time they passed a field with a farmer in it

farmer in it

farmer in it Franklin would get out in his

Franklin would get out in his

Franklin would get out in his three-piece suit and expensive leather

three-piece suit and expensive leather

three-piece suit and expensive leather shoes and trudged through the barley or

shoes and trudged through the barley or

shoes and trudged through the barley or wheat or corn or whatever it was go

wheat or corn or whatever it was go

wheat or corn or whatever it was go shake the hand of the homesteader the

shake the hand of the homesteader the

shake the hand of the homesteader the farmer and say I hope I can count on

farmer and say I hope I can count on

farmer and say I hope I can count on your vote on November 8th and when

your vote on November 8th and when

your vote on November 8th and when November 8th finally did come it turned

November 8th finally did come it turned

November 8th finally did come it turned out that it had worked he had managed to

out that it had worked he had managed to

out that it had worked he had managed to talk to enough people and sort of

talk to enough people and sort of

talk to enough people and sort of present himself to enough people to

present himself to enough people to

present himself to enough people to dispel these feelings that he was out of

dispel these feelings that he was out of

dispel these feelings that he was out of touch and when the ballots were cast and

touch and when the ballots were cast and

touch and when the ballots were cast and counted it turned out that he had

counted it turned out that he had

counted it turned out that he had received enough from upstate to win win

received enough from upstate to win win

received enough from upstate to win win the election and became a senator in New

the election and became a senator in New

the election and became a senator in New York City excuse me in New York State

York City excuse me in New York State

York City excuse me in New York State now what I love about this anecdote is

now what I love about this anecdote is

now what I love about this anecdote is it seems to capture sort of perfectly

it seems to capture sort of perfectly

it seems to capture sort of perfectly what it takes to win an election

what it takes to win an election

what it takes to win an election particularly a national one now a

particularly a national one now a

particularly a national one now a hundred years plus in the future and

hundred years plus in the future and

hundred years plus in the future and that would be number one being able to

that would be number one being able to

that would be number one being able to harness a new technology in a way that

harness a new technology in a way that

harness a new technology in a way that allows you to reach out and connect with

allows you to reach out and connect with

allows you to reach out and connect with more people than your opponent and more

more people than your opponent and more

more people than your opponent and more importantly than that to be able to do

importantly than that to be able to do

importantly than that to be able to do so in a way that feels authentic history

so in a way that feels authentic history

so in a way that feels authentic history is rife with examples of this sticking

is rife with examples of this sticking

is rife with examples of this sticking with FDR for a moment he went on to do

with FDR for a moment he went on to do

with FDR for a moment he went on to do his fireside chats which I’m sure you

his fireside chats which I’m sure you

his fireside chats which I’m sure you have all heard about in American history

have all heard about in American history

have all heard about in American history class where he would go into essentially

class where he would go into essentially

class where he would go into essentially every living room in America and talk to

every living room in America and talk to

every living room in America and talk to people as if he was sitting right there

people as if he was sitting right there

people as if he was sitting right there JFK understood the power of television

JFK understood the power of television

JFK understood the power of television better than anyone before him and was

better than anyone before him and was

better than anyone before him and was able to broadcast himself into living

able to broadcast himself into living

able to broadcast himself into living rooms across American make people feel

rooms across American make people feel

rooms across American make people feel like he was right there Barack Obama

like he was right there Barack Obama

like he was right there Barack Obama more recently really took hold of mass

more recently really took hold of mass

more recently really took hold of mass emailing big data and social media in a

emailing big data and social media in a

emailing big data and social media in a way to connect with young people like

way to connect with young people like

way to connect with young people like nobody ever had and most recently

nobody ever had and most recently

nobody ever had and most recently whether you love him or hate him Donald

whether you love him or hate him Donald

whether you love him or hate him Donald Trump

Trump

Trump we have to give him that he really

we have to give him that he really

we have to give him that he really harnessed the 24-hour news cycle and

harnessed the 24-hour news cycle and

harnessed the 24-hour news cycle and Twitter better than anyone before him

Twitter better than anyone before him

Twitter better than anyone before him and I think what you see and all these

and I think what you see and all these

and I think what you see and all these examples are is a man who is connecting

examples are is a man who is connecting

examples are is a man who is connecting with thousands or millions of people

with thousands or millions of people

with thousands or millions of people well at the same time making those

well at the same time making those

well at the same time making those people feel like he is just speaking to

people feel like he is just speaking to

people feel like he is just speaking to them and I think this is what sort of we

them and I think this is what sort of we

them and I think this is what sort of we long for as Americans in our politicians

long for as Americans in our politicians

long for as Americans in our politicians we want somebody to feel authentic

no it’s probably news to nobody in this

no it’s probably news to nobody in this room that there’s been sort of a rash of

room that there’s been sort of a rash of

room that there’s been sort of a rash of we could call them inauthentic news

we could call them inauthentic news

we could call them inauthentic news stories circulating throughout America

stories circulating throughout America

stories circulating throughout America over the past year year and a half or

over the past year year and a half or

over the past year year and a half or some speaking of fake news and the

some speaking of fake news and the

some speaking of fake news and the reason that these two juxtaposing ideas

reason that these two juxtaposing ideas

reason that these two juxtaposing ideas I think have been in my head is because

I think have been in my head is because

I think have been in my head is because I’m worried that we that we are on the

I’m worried that we that we are on the

I’m worried that we that we are on the precipice of a new technology two of

precipice of a new technology two of

precipice of a new technology two of them actually that are going to enable

them actually that are going to enable

them actually that are going to enable politicians to betray this thirst for

politicians to betray this thirst for

politicians to betray this thirst for ident or this thirst for authenticity

ident or this thirst for authenticity

ident or this thirst for authenticity that we have and maybe even worse sort

that we have and maybe even worse sort

that we have and maybe even worse sort of undermine what’s at the fundament of

of undermine what’s at the fundament of

of undermine what’s at the fundament of our democracy so these two technologies

our democracy so these two technologies

our democracy so these two technologies I’m talking about were originally

I’m talking about were originally

I’m talking about were originally introduced to me by a writer for Vanity

introduced to me by a writer for Vanity

introduced to me by a writer for Vanity Fair a guy by the name of Nick Bilton

Fair a guy by the name of Nick Bilton

Fair a guy by the name of Nick Bilton and the first one is something called

and the first one is something called

and the first one is something called vocal synthesis so whether you know it

vocal synthesis so whether you know it

vocal synthesis so whether you know it or not you all have very likely

or not you all have very likely

or not you all have very likely interacted with vocal synthesis it is

interacted with vocal synthesis it is

interacted with vocal synthesis it is what a allows Siri on your iPhone to

what a allows Siri on your iPhone to

what a allows Siri on your iPhone to speak back with you or speak back at you

speak back with you or speak back at you

speak back with you or speak back at you also Stephen Hawking he’s one of the

also Stephen Hawking he’s one of the

also Stephen Hawking he’s one of the most famous folks who has used vocal

most famous folks who has used vocal

most famous folks who has used vocal synthesis for a very long time to

synthesis for a very long time to

synthesis for a very long time to facilitate his ability to speak and well

facilitate his ability to speak and well

facilitate his ability to speak and well this technology has been around for a

this technology has been around for a

this technology has been around for a long time the way it has historically

long time the way it has historically

long time the way it has historically worked is you got to bring a voice actor

worked is you got to bring a voice actor

worked is you got to bring a voice actor into a studio sit him down for hours or

into a studio sit him down for hours or

into a studio sit him down for hours or tens of hours and have them read

tens of hours and have them read

tens of hours and have them read thousands of these little nonsense words

thousands of these little nonsense words

thousands of these little nonsense words words that then after these dozens of

words that then after these dozens of

words that then after these dozens of hours of recordings are done an engineer

hours of recordings are done an engineer

hours of recordings are done an engineer has to go into the studio chop all those

has to go into the studio chop all those

has to go into the studio chop all those recordings up into tiny tiny tiny pieces

recordings up into tiny tiny tiny pieces

recordings up into tiny tiny tiny pieces and then label what they are put them

and then label what they are put them

and then label what they are put them into a database with all the proper

into a database with all the proper

into a database with all the proper labels and then when you or I or whoever

labels and then when you or I or whoever

labels and then when you or I or whoever has access to this text-to-speech

has access to this text-to-speech

has access to this text-to-speech program can type in whatever they want

program can type in whatever they want

program can type in whatever they want and it will make sort of a robotic

and it will make sort of a robotic

and it will make sort of a robotic sounding version of a human saying

sounding version of a human saying

sounding version of a human saying whatever the heck it is you wanted to

whatever the heck it is you wanted to

whatever the heck it is you wanted to say this technology however in just the

say this technology however in just the

say this technology however in just the past year has sort of entered its

past year has sort of entered its

past year has sort of entered its adolescence and like all adolescents or

adolescence and like all adolescents or

adolescence and like all adolescents or good adolescents it’s beginning to

good adolescents it’s beginning to

good adolescents it’s beginning to mature very quickly and one

mature very quickly and one

mature very quickly and one think about specifically is a program

think about specifically is a program

think about specifically is a program that adobe the folks that make Photoshop

that adobe the folks that make Photoshop

that adobe the folks that make Photoshop just showcased about a year ago it’s

just showcased about a year ago it’s

just showcased about a year ago it’s called voco and their hope is that voco

called voco and their hope is that voco

called voco and their hope is that voco will do two audio what Photoshop has

will do two audio what Photoshop has

will do two audio what Photoshop has done two images

done two images

done two images so essentially what it can do is I don’t

so essentially what it can do is I don’t

so essentially what it can do is I don’t mean to pick on you but let’s say that I

mean to pick on you but let’s say that I

mean to pick on you but let’s say that I I’m a radio reporter I stick a

I’m a radio reporter I stick a

I’m a radio reporter I stick a microphone in your face for 20 minutes I

microphone in your face for 20 minutes I

microphone in your face for 20 minutes I ask you some silly questions and you

ask you some silly questions and you

ask you some silly questions and you just sort of talk at me for 20 minutes I

just sort of talk at me for 20 minutes I

just sort of talk at me for 20 minutes I could take that audio file feed it into

could take that audio file feed it into

could take that audio file feed it into voco VOCA will spend about three seconds

voco VOCA will spend about three seconds

voco VOCA will spend about three seconds automatically doing all of that slicing

automatically doing all of that slicing

automatically doing all of that slicing and labeling and databasing and then in

and labeling and databasing and then in

and labeling and databasing and then in a little text box that pops up in the

a little text box that pops up in the

a little text box that pops up in the program I can type whatever I want and I

program I can type whatever I want and I

program I can type whatever I want and I can make you say in your own voice

can make you say in your own voice

can make you say in your own voice indistinguishably whatever the heck it

indistinguishably whatever the heck it

indistinguishably whatever the heck it is I want to make you safe so let’s say

is I want to make you safe so let’s say

is I want to make you safe so let’s say I don’t know what’s something you

I don’t know what’s something you

I don’t know what’s something you probably really dislike we’re in Indiana

probably really dislike we’re in Indiana

probably really dislike we’re in Indiana like go Buckeyes go like would that be

like go Buckeyes go like would that be

like go Buckeyes go like would that be something that would or go Badgers I

something that would or go Badgers I

something that would or go Badgers I don’t know who’d is Indiana now like but

don’t know who’d is Indiana now like but

don’t know who’d is Indiana now like but anyway is a problematic right it’s not

anyway is a problematic right it’s not

anyway is a problematic right it’s not too difficult to imagine the negative

too difficult to imagine the negative

too difficult to imagine the negative consequences of this but uh just just to

consequences of this but uh just just to

consequences of this but uh just just to drive the point home let’s take a quick

drive the point home let’s take a quick

drive the point home let’s take a quick look at this I’m gonna do some context

look at this I’m gonna do some context

look at this I’m gonna do some context just in case instead of kissing her

just in case instead of kissing her

just in case instead of kissing her you know I’m automatically attracted to

you know I’m automatically attracted to

you know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful I just started kissing them

beautiful I just started kissing them

beautiful I just started kissing them it’s like a magnet when your star they

it’s like a magnet when your star they

it’s like a magnet when your star they let you do it you can’t do anything

let you do it you can’t do anything

let you do it you can’t do anything whatever you want

his legs elegance easily no I want to

his legs elegance easily no I want to play okay so that of course is uh the

play okay so that of course is uh the

play okay so that of course is uh the now-infamous

now-infamous

now-infamous Access Hollywood tape of Donald Trump

Access Hollywood tape of Donald Trump

Access Hollywood tape of Donald Trump back in 2005 bragging about sexually

back in 2005 bragging about sexually

back in 2005 bragging about sexually assaulting a woman on top of the fact or

assaulting a woman on top of the fact or

assaulting a woman on top of the fact or maybe or I guess what I want to point

maybe or I guess what I want to point

maybe or I guess what I want to point out is and what’s worth noticing is that

out is and what’s worth noticing is that

out is and what’s worth noticing is that everything vilde that he said he said

everything vilde that he said he said

everything vilde that he said he said before he in fact got off the bus and so

before he in fact got off the bus and so

before he in fact got off the bus and so if this sort of technology was pervasive

if this sort of technology was pervasive

if this sort of technology was pervasive at the time that this video came out

at the time that this video came out

at the time that this video came out it’s hard to imagine him not saying it’s

it’s hard to imagine him not saying it’s

it’s hard to imagine him not saying it’s fabricated I never said that

fabricated I never said that

fabricated I never said that somebody made me say that

and that means we’re about to enter a

and that means we’re about to enter a moment where anyone will be able to

moment where anyone will be able to

moment where anyone will be able to plausibly deny anything that’s ever been

plausibly deny anything that’s ever been

plausibly deny anything that’s ever been recorded of them saying or maybe worse

recorded of them saying or maybe worse

recorded of them saying or maybe worse someone will be able to make some make

someone will be able to make some make

someone will be able to make some make anyone say whatever they want and we

anyone say whatever they want and we

anyone say whatever they want and we won’t really know whether they said it

won’t really know whether they said it

won’t really know whether they said it problematic but let’s imagine for a

problematic but let’s imagine for a

problematic but let’s imagine for a second that that video camera had been

second that that video camera had been

second that that video camera had been on the bus it was trained right on

on the bus it was trained right on

on the bus it was trained right on Donald Trump’s face as he spewed these

Donald Trump’s face as he spewed these

Donald Trump’s face as he spewed these these misogynistic thoughts he we’d get

these misogynistic thoughts he we’d get

these misogynistic thoughts he we’d get him then right like there’s no way we’re

him then right like there’s no way we’re

him then right like there’s no way we’re working around that well let’s take a

working around that well let’s take a

working around that well let’s take a look at technology number two that I’m

look at technology number two that I’m

look at technology number two that I’m thinking about here if we can see that

thinking about here if we can see that

thinking about here if we can see that on the video screen we present a novel

on the video screen we present a novel

on the video screen we present a novel real-time facial reenactment method that

real-time facial reenactment method that

real-time facial reenactment method that works with any kimono a web cam since

works with any kimono a web cam since

works with any kimono a web cam since our method only uses RGB data for both

our method only uses RGB data for both

our method only uses RGB data for both the source and target actor we are able

the source and target actor we are able

the source and target actor we are able to manipulate YouTube videos in real

to manipulate YouTube videos in real

to manipulate YouTube videos in real time ok as you’ll notice here the man on

time ok as you’ll notice here the man on

time ok as you’ll notice here the man on your right eye is controlling the face

your right eye is controlling the face

your right eye is controlling the face of George Bush this is something known

of George Bush this is something known

of George Bush this is something known as facial reenactment or facial

as facial reenactment or facial

as facial reenactment or facial animation software and the way it works

animation software and the way it works

animation software and the way it works is in real-time it allows for with just

is in real-time it allows for with just

is in real-time it allows for with just this the program in a standard web cam

this the program in a standard web cam

this the program in a standard web cam that you can buy at Best Buy or wherever

that you can buy at Best Buy or wherever

that you can buy at Best Buy or wherever for ten dollars it turns on looks at

for ten dollars it turns on looks at

for ten dollars it turns on looks at your face figures out the geometry of

your face figures out the geometry of

your face figures out the geometry of your face then does the same for whoever

your face then does the same for whoever

your face then does the same for whoever is in the pre-recorded video and then in

is in the pre-recorded video and then in

is in the pre-recorded video and then in real time allows who’s ever on the

real time allows who’s ever on the

real time allows who’s ever on the webcam to puppeteer or control the face

webcam to puppeteer or control the face

webcam to puppeteer or control the face of whoever is in the video now let’s

of whoever is in the video now let’s

of whoever is in the video now let’s imagine for a second that somebody has

imagine for a second that somebody has

imagine for a second that somebody has their hands on both these technologies

their hands on both these technologies

their hands on both these technologies the facial reenactment as well as the

the facial reenactment as well as the

the facial reenactment as well as the vocals in ptosis suddenly that person

vocals in ptosis suddenly that person

vocals in ptosis suddenly that person has the ability to make it look like

has the ability to make it look like

has the ability to make it look like anyone

anyone

anyone [Music]

[Music]

[Music] is saying whatever it is they want that

is saying whatever it is they want that

is saying whatever it is they want that person to say yeah let’s just think of

person to say yeah let’s just think of

person to say yeah let’s just think of some examples here I guess Russia could

some examples here I guess Russia could

some examples here I guess Russia could release a video of Hillary Clinton

release a video of Hillary Clinton

release a video of Hillary Clinton saying I in fact was very happy that

saying I in fact was very happy that

saying I in fact was very happy that those folks were killed in Benghazi the

those folks were killed in Benghazi the

those folks were killed in Benghazi the right-wing extremists could release a

right-wing extremists could release a

right-wing extremists could release a video of Barack Obama saying got yeah

video of Barack Obama saying got yeah

video of Barack Obama saying got yeah I’m not American

I’m not American

I’m not American and I am Muslim left-wing extremists

and I am Muslim left-wing extremists

and I am Muslim left-wing extremists could release a video of Steve Bannon

could release a video of Steve Bannon

could release a video of Steve Bannon reading from mine comp from memory or

reading from mine comp from memory or

reading from mine comp from memory or just spewing it from memory we’re on the

just spewing it from memory we’re on the

just spewing it from memory we’re on the edge of entering a moment where any

edge of entering a moment where any

edge of entering a moment where any politician their supporter or some third

politician their supporter or some third

politician their supporter or some third party actor is going to be able to prove

party actor is going to be able to prove

party actor is going to be able to prove whatever narrative it is that they want

whatever narrative it is that they want

whatever narrative it is that they want to prove

I will say before we get too worried

I will say before we get too worried that the technology is not perfect yet

that the technology is not perfect yet

that the technology is not perfect yet it’s pretty good but it’s not perfect

it’s pretty good but it’s not perfect

it’s pretty good but it’s not perfect for the radio show I work for Radio lab

for the radio show I work for Radio lab

for the radio show I work for Radio lab we actually got our hands on some early

we actually got our hands on some early

we actually got our hands on some early versions of both of these pieces of

versions of both of these pieces of

versions of both of these pieces of technology and made a video clip of

technology and made a video clip of

technology and made a video clip of Barack Obama saying something that he

Barack Obama saying something that he

Barack Obama saying something that he never said so let’s take a quick look at

never said so let’s take a quick look at

never said so let’s take a quick look at that now

that now

that now on the backend now of my presidency now

on the backend now of my presidency now

on the backend now of my presidency now that it’s almost completed although

that it’s almost completed although

that it’s almost completed although there are all kinds of issues that I

there are all kinds of issues that I

there are all kinds of issues that I care about the single most important

care about the single most important

care about the single most important thing I can do is wait no because our

thing I can do is wait no because our

thing I can do is wait no because our parties have moved further and further

parties have moved further and further

parties have moved further and further apart and it’s harder and harder to find

apart and it’s harder and harder to find

apart and it’s harder and harder to find common ground so you know when I said in

common ground so you know when I said in

common ground so you know when I said in 2004 that there were no red states or

2004 that there were no red states or

2004 that there were no red states or blue states for the United States of

blue states for the United States of

blue states for the United States of America

America

America that was wrong all right so not perfect

that was wrong all right so not perfect

that was wrong all right so not perfect right but for a group of people with

right but for a group of people with

right but for a group of people with absolutely no technological know-how and

absolutely no technological know-how and

absolutely no technological know-how and because of journalistic ethics weren’t

because of journalistic ethics weren’t

because of journalistic ethics weren’t allowed to pay anybody a penny I don’t

allowed to pay anybody a penny I don’t

allowed to pay anybody a penny I don’t think it’s that bad

think it’s that bad

think it’s that bad and more than that let’s consider the

and more than that let’s consider the

and more than that let’s consider the fact that these things are only going to

fact that these things are only going to

fact that these things are only going to get better they’re only going to get

get better they’re only going to get

get better they’re only going to get better and they’re about to be in the

better and they’re about to be in the

better and they’re about to be in the pockets of everyone in this room because

pockets of everyone in this room because

pockets of everyone in this room because although these technologies are not yet

although these technologies are not yet

although these technologies are not yet out on the consumer market from the

out on the consumer market from the

out on the consumer market from the folks I talked to we’re looking at six

folks I talked to we’re looking at six

folks I talked to we’re looking at six months to a year before you can go into

months to a year before you can go into

months to a year before you can go into the App Store and for $0.99 or $4.99

the App Store and for $0.99 or $4.99

the App Store and for $0.99 or $4.99 download some versions of these programs

download some versions of these programs

download some versions of these programs and so that brings us back to sort of

and so that brings us back to sort of

and so that brings us back to sort of the dance I was mentioning at the top of

the dance I was mentioning at the top of

the dance I was mentioning at the top of this that well we are constantly chasing

this that well we are constantly chasing

this that well we are constantly chasing authenticity our politicians are chasing

authenticity our politicians are chasing

authenticity our politicians are chasing after whatever it is that will scratch

after whatever it is that will scratch

after whatever it is that will scratch that itch for us

that itch for us

that itch for us and so I think the question is no longer

and so I think the question is no longer

and so I think the question is no longer how is fake news going to play out in

how is fake news going to play out in

how is fake news going to play out in the 2020 presidential election but

the 2020 presidential election but

the 2020 presidential election but rather how are we gonna react to option

rather how are we gonna react to option

rather how are we gonna react to option number one worst-case scenario is we

number one worst-case scenario is we

number one worst-case scenario is we elect someone into office based on

elect someone into office based on

elect someone into office based on completely false information or actually

completely false information or actually

completely false information or actually I guess worse than that would be prior

I guess worse than that would be prior

I guess worse than that would be prior to that happening

to that happening

to that happening someone releases a video of Kim Jong

someone releases a video of Kim Jong

someone releases a video of Kim Jong Un’s saying that he has fired a nuclear

Un’s saying that he has fired a nuclear

Un’s saying that he has fired a nuclear missile at the United States the federal

missile at the United States the federal

missile at the United States the federal government unwittingly responds

government unwittingly responds

government unwittingly responds believing it to be true and sets off a

believing it to be true and sets off a

believing it to be true and sets off a nuclear exchange that was never meant to

nuclear exchange that was never meant to

nuclear exchange that was never meant to happen

happen

happen the second option which is an option

the second option which is an option

the second option which is an option that I actually had to sort of puzzle

that I actually had to sort of puzzle

that I actually had to sort of puzzle over whether I even believed it possible

over whether I even believed it possible

over whether I even believed it possible or not because I’m not super optimistic

or not because I’m not super optimistic

or not because I’m not super optimistic about this is that we all no longer

about this is that we all no longer

about this is that we all no longer blindly accept these mediums as

blindly accept these mediums as

blindly accept these mediums as authentic we no longer believe that

authentic we no longer believe that

authentic we no longer believe that everything we see in here is true we

everything we see in here is true we

everything we see in here is true we have to get a heck of a lot smarter and

have to get a heck of a lot smarter and

have to get a heck of a lot smarter and we have to critically engage with every

we have to critically engage with every

we have to critically engage with every single piece of audio and video we come

single piece of audio and video we come

single piece of audio and video we come across

across

across and if we’re able to do that we will be

and if we’re able to do that we will be

and if we’re able to do that we will be able to rob these technologies of some

able to rob these technologies of some

able to rob these technologies of some of their power if we can do that then at

of their power if we can do that then at

of their power if we can do that then at least for a while will require our

least for a while will require our

least for a while will require our politicians to find the next thing that

politicians to find the next thing that

politicians to find the next thing that makes us feel like they’re real thanks

makes us feel like they’re real thanks

makes us feel like they’re real thanks so much

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