this is not a chicken it’s a piece of art and let me explain you something
art and let me explain you something
art and let me explain you something chickens are the most domesticated
chickens are the most domesticated
chickens are the most domesticated animals in the world and also the most
animals in the world and also the most
animals in the world and also the most pure bred animals in the world but this
pure bred animals in the world but this
pure bred animals in the world but this one what you’re facing here is a hybrid
one what you’re facing here is a hybrid
one what you’re facing here is a hybrid it’s a crossing between a chicken from
it’s a crossing between a chicken from
it’s a crossing between a chicken from Belgium France and England every day we
Belgium France and England every day we
Belgium France and England every day we are facing 65 billion chickens a day and
are facing 65 billion chickens a day and
are facing 65 billion chickens a day and 60 million tons of eggs every scientific
60 million tons of eggs every scientific
60 million tons of eggs every scientific magazine today is telling you that a
magazine today is telling you that a
magazine today is telling you that a society without chicken and eggs is very
society without chicken and eggs is very
society without chicken and eggs is very difficult and I tell you why it’s a
difficult and I tell you why it’s a
difficult and I tell you why it’s a protein bomb eighty percent of
protein bomb eighty percent of
protein bomb eighty percent of developing countries are eating chickens
developing countries are eating chickens
developing countries are eating chickens and if you think about the creation of
and if you think about the creation of
and if you think about the creation of vaccines it’s all based on chicken eggs
vaccines it’s all based on chicken eggs
vaccines it’s all based on chicken eggs but I take you to the history of the
but I take you to the history of the
but I take you to the history of the chicken there is only one chicken in the
chicken there is only one chicken in the
chicken there is only one chicken in the world which is the red jungle fowl that
world which is the red jungle fowl that
world which is the red jungle fowl that lifts at the feet of the Himalaya and by
lifts at the feet of the Himalaya and by
lifts at the feet of the Himalaya and by human interest it thought it brought his
human interest it thought it brought his
human interest it thought it brought his jeans all over the world and by mutation
jeans all over the world and by mutation
jeans all over the world and by mutation and manipulation humans were creating in
and manipulation humans were creating in
and manipulation humans were creating in every country a chicken that tells
every country a chicken that tells
every country a chicken that tells something about the country so the
something about the country so the
something about the country so the chicken is not only made for consumption
chicken is not only made for consumption
chicken is not only made for consumption but also for aesthetical reasons and
but also for aesthetical reasons and
but also for aesthetical reasons and I’ll give you a good example this one
I’ll give you a good example this one
I’ll give you a good example this one this is the pool at the breast on France
this is the pool at the breast on France
this is the pool at the breast on France it is red in the head white in the body
it is red in the head white in the body
it is red in the head white in the body and as blue legs is the French flag so
and as blue legs is the French flag so
and as blue legs is the French flag so in this one yeah this one is the silky
in this one yeah this one is the silky
in this one yeah this one is the silky it’s a prairie chicken and it’s made in
it’s a prairie chicken and it’s made in
it’s a prairie chicken and it’s made in China so the ID was silk and I was
China so the ID was silk and I was
China so the ID was silk and I was thinking about all these animals who
thinking about all these animals who
thinking about all these animals who were creating in all these different
were creating in all these different
were creating in all these different countries and actually what were we
countries and actually what were we
countries and actually what were we doing we were making this chicken always
doing we were making this chicken always
doing we were making this chicken always the same in every country and I was
the same in every country and I was
the same in every country and I was thinking is this right can we do that
thinking is this right can we do that
thinking is this right can we do that can we draw
can we draw
can we draw a frame around a living animal and I was
a frame around a living animal and I was
a frame around a living animal and I was not sure I think to make real evolutions
not sure I think to make real evolutions
not sure I think to make real evolutions once in a while you have to break those
once in a while you have to break those
once in a while you have to break those frames that’s why I starting this
frames that’s why I starting this
frames that’s why I starting this project cosmopolitan chicken project as
project cosmopolitan chicken project as
project cosmopolitan chicken project as a cross breeding protein between
a cross breeding protein between
a cross breeding protein between chickens of different countries it’s
chickens of different countries it’s
chickens of different countries it’s actually love between chickens of
actually love between chickens of
actually love between chickens of different nations and I started with the
different nations and I started with the
different nations and I started with the metal circa cook from Belgium to
metal circa cook from Belgium to
metal circa cook from Belgium to crossbreed with the Palais de
crossbreed with the Palais de
crossbreed with the Palais de breastaurant France and that’s on the
breastaurant France and that’s on the
breastaurant France and that’s on the border between Belgium and France but
border between Belgium and France but
border between Belgium and France but you remember i’m an artist of course so
you remember i’m an artist of course so
you remember i’m an artist of course so but actually by doing this in art you
but actually by doing this in art you
but actually by doing this in art you start to tell a very big thing a very
start to tell a very big thing a very
start to tell a very big thing a very big story because with that result I
big story because with that result I
big story because with that result I went to England with that result I went
went to England with that result I went
went to England with that result I went to Germany and now arrived 20 chickens
to Germany and now arrived 20 chickens
to Germany and now arrived 20 chickens in I have 20 countries excuse me in one
in I have 20 countries excuse me in one
in I have 20 countries excuse me in one chicken and actually this is a story
chicken and actually this is a story
chicken and actually this is a story about diversity and if you do this on
about diversity and if you do this on
about diversity and if you do this on the level of art I mean if you do that
the level of art I mean if you do that
the level of art I mean if you do that on the level of art you’re not talking
on the level of art you’re not talking
on the level of art you’re not talking about the chicken but you’re really
about the chicken but you’re really
about the chicken but you’re really talking about us because art is a
talking about us because art is a
talking about us because art is a metaphor it’s about globalization racism
metaphor it’s about globalization racism
metaphor it’s about globalization racism genetic engineering cloning urban
genetic engineering cloning urban
genetic engineering cloning urban farming and actually I found myself also
farming and actually I found myself also
farming and actually I found myself also in a conflict me against my chicken you
in a conflict me against my chicken you
in a conflict me against my chicken you know on one hand the chicken is giving
know on one hand the chicken is giving
know on one hand the chicken is giving itself to the project on the other hand
itself to the project on the other hand
itself to the project on the other hand it is revolting and i become the watcher
it is revolting and i become the watcher
it is revolting and i become the watcher of my own project but it generates
of my own project but it generates
of my own project but it generates fantastic questions like this one where
fantastic questions like this one where
fantastic questions like this one where do we come from if a chicken is coming
do we come from if a chicken is coming
do we come from if a chicken is coming from one source what about humans so I
from one source what about humans so I
from one source what about humans so I start to do expeditions to the Himalaya
start to do expeditions to the Himalaya
start to do expeditions to the Himalaya and I discovered something very strong
and I discovered something very strong
and I discovered something very strong the chicken lives on the border between
the chicken lives on the border between
the chicken lives on the border between this jungle and civilization and I was
this jungle and civilization and I was
this jungle and civilization and I was asking myself who came to who you know
asking myself who came to who you know
asking myself who came to who you know this is a question about domestication
this is a question about domestication
this is a question about domestication did the chicken come to us did we come
did the chicken come to us did we come
did the chicken come to us did we come to the chicken
to the chicken
to the chicken I mean if you think about this and
I mean if you think about this and
I mean if you think about this and that’s why I make this kind of image you
that’s why I make this kind of image you
that’s why I make this kind of image you know if you if the chicken is coming to
know if you if the chicken is coming to
know if you if the chicken is coming to us and it’s like trying to find a
us and it’s like trying to find a
us and it’s like trying to find a balance what are we doing with an animal
balance what are we doing with an animal
balance what are we doing with an animal what are we doing with the other I mean
what are we doing with the other I mean
what are we doing with the other I mean every little detail we are using and
every little detail we are using and
every little detail we are using and where is the level of using and abusing
where is the level of using and abusing
where is the level of using and abusing I think it’s very difficult so what is
I think it’s very difficult so what is
I think it’s very difficult so what is your position are we poison the world or
your position are we poison the world or
your position are we poison the world or are we fertilizing the world the
are we fertilizing the world the
are we fertilizing the world the beautiful egg transparent where we live
beautiful egg transparent where we live
beautiful egg transparent where we live on that’s why I started to make this
on that’s why I started to make this
on that’s why I started to make this kind of installations this installation
kind of installations this installation
kind of installations this installation I made in Guangzhou in China thousand
I made in Guangzhou in China thousand
I made in Guangzhou in China thousand square meter of jungle people were
square meter of jungle people were
square meter of jungle people were crossing through this installation under
crossing through this installation under
crossing through this installation under the title modified spaces and they all
the title modified spaces and they all
the title modified spaces and they all look to the source of life this jungle
look to the source of life this jungle
look to the source of life this jungle fall 45 degrees there and if you step
fall 45 degrees there and if you step
fall 45 degrees there and if you step out you see this installation 5 degrees
out you see this installation 5 degrees
out you see this installation 5 degrees the refrigerator the eggs all stamped
the refrigerator the eggs all stamped
the refrigerator the eggs all stamped and well-ordered what do we have to
and well-ordered what do we have to
and well-ordered what do we have to protect do we have to protect nature or
protect do we have to protect nature or
protect do we have to protect nature or the things that we are creating I think
the things that we are creating I think
the things that we are creating I think we have to find the balance that’s why
we have to find the balance that’s why
we have to find the balance that’s why after those two installation I make this
after those two installation I make this
after those two installation I make this one it’s a human incubator and actually
one it’s a human incubator and actually
one it’s a human incubator and actually it’s about Roberta ng it’s about
it’s about Roberta ng it’s about
it’s about Roberta ng it’s about changing it’s about rethinking so there
changing it’s about rethinking so there
changing it’s about rethinking so there is the little knee police sitting on the
is the little knee police sitting on the
is the little knee police sitting on the border between the jungle and
border between the jungle and
border between the jungle and civilization and I started to think
civilization and I started to think
civilization and I started to think about all these things what to do with
about all these things what to do with
about all these things what to do with all these thoughts and I went back to my
all these thoughts and I went back to my
all these thoughts and I went back to my first drawing you know this red jungle
first drawing you know this red jungle
first drawing you know this red jungle fold the source of life for all chickens
fold the source of life for all chickens
fold the source of life for all chickens they give their genes and then the world
they give their genes and then the world
they give their genes and then the world store to exist you know in all these
store to exist you know in all these
store to exist you know in all these diversity but all of a sudden they
diversity but all of a sudden they
diversity but all of a sudden they become more and more monopolized by us
become more and more monopolized by us
become more and more monopolized by us and then there is the artist the artist
and then there is the artist the artist
and then there is the artist the artist or to crossbreed and has an ID and wants
or to crossbreed and has an ID and wants
or to crossbreed and has an ID and wants to go to something new a new definition
to go to something new a new definition
to go to something new a new definition like you see in this picture a
like you see in this picture a
like you see in this picture a transparent egg something that we done
transparent egg something that we done
transparent egg something that we done no yet so I came to one conclusion and
no yet so I came to one conclusion and
no yet so I came to one conclusion and one conclusion was that fertility always
one conclusion was that fertility always
one conclusion was that fertility always comes from outside it was not about
comes from outside it was not about
comes from outside it was not about myself it is about the other and
myself it is about the other and
myself it is about the other and everything in confrontation where the
everything in confrontation where the
everything in confrontation where the other can really grow and that’s why I
other can really grow and that’s why I
other can really grow and that’s why I made my Open University of diversity and
made my Open University of diversity and
made my Open University of diversity and actually it’s not only a beautiful
actually it’s not only a beautiful
actually it’s not only a beautiful students to do where I make all my
students to do where I make all my
students to do where I make all my artworks which is also a think tank a
artworks which is also a think tank a
artworks which is also a think tank a place where scientists social
place where scientists social
place where scientists social entrepreneurs philosopher biologists are
entrepreneurs philosopher biologists are
entrepreneurs philosopher biologists are coming together to speak with each other
coming together to speak with each other
coming together to speak with each other about big issues like fertility
about big issues like fertility
about big issues like fertility diversity but also like immunity it’s
diversity but also like immunity it’s
diversity but also like immunity it’s looking with them in this transparent
looking with them in this transparent
looking with them in this transparent egg to find some knowledge that we don’t
egg to find some knowledge that we don’t
egg to find some knowledge that we don’t know because the biggest knowledge is
know because the biggest knowledge is
know because the biggest knowledge is the knowledge that we don’t know
the knowledge that we don’t know
the knowledge that we don’t know actually this is also why the chicken
actually this is also why the chicken
actually this is also why the chicken industry is helping us they taking the
industry is helping us they taking the
industry is helping us they taking the snap chips you know they doing the
snap chips you know they doing the
snap chips you know they doing the research and after eight years of very
research and after eight years of very
research and after eight years of very big research we were finding the book of
big research we were finding the book of
big research we were finding the book of genomes of the Cross breedings so 13
genomes of the Cross breedings so 13
genomes of the Cross breedings so 13 million genetic information in one
million genetic information in one
million genetic information in one chicken and you have to know that a
chicken and you have to know that a
chicken and you have to know that a normal chicken normally only has 5
normal chicken normally only has 5
normal chicken normally only has 5 million and it is this man that you see
million and it is this man that you see
million and it is this man that you see over here Olivia not who’s an expert on
over here Olivia not who’s an expert on
over here Olivia not who’s an expert on the nottingham university who told me he
the nottingham university who told me he
the nottingham university who told me he said if you have a chicken with this
said if you have a chicken with this
said if you have a chicken with this kind of content with 13 million DNA you
kind of content with 13 million DNA you
kind of content with 13 million DNA you have to take action you have to do
have to take action you have to do
have to take action you have to do something and I start to think and one
something and I start to think and one
something and I start to think and one of the conclusions was for me so
of the conclusions was for me so
of the conclusions was for me so diversity is not enough so only with
diversity is not enough so only with
diversity is not enough so only with diversity you don’t make it and that’s
diversity you don’t make it and that’s
diversity you don’t make it and that’s why I started to make my planetary
why I started to make my planetary
why I started to make my planetary community chicken and what is the
community chicken and what is the
community chicken and what is the planetary community chicken is actually
planetary community chicken is actually
planetary community chicken is actually a chicken the Roosters I take from my
a chicken the Roosters I take from my
a chicken the Roosters I take from my cosmopolitan chicken project the
cosmopolitan chicken project the
cosmopolitan chicken project the diversity and I started to crossbreed is
diversity and I started to crossbreed is
diversity and I started to crossbreed is with a local commercial chicken the one
with a local commercial chicken the one
with a local commercial chicken the one that you find
that you find
that you find a supermarket and actually this crossing
a supermarket and actually this crossing
a supermarket and actually this crossing is on another level it’s about diversity
is on another level it’s about diversity
is on another level it’s about diversity and productivity and the beauty is that
and productivity and the beauty is that
and productivity and the beauty is that it’s underline the thoughts that duality
it’s underline the thoughts that duality
it’s underline the thoughts that duality is important it’s not about one form
is important it’s not about one form
is important it’s not about one form it’s about two forms so I start to think
it’s about two forms so I start to think
it’s about two forms so I start to think about the society again so making a
about the society again so making a
about the society again so making a cosmopolitan chicken it’s built up free
cosmopolitan chicken it’s built up free
cosmopolitan chicken it’s built up free in the art world on diversity from local
in the art world on diversity from local
in the art world on diversity from local chickens and it becomes global and now
chickens and it becomes global and now
chickens and it becomes global and now it’s time to give global back to local
it’s time to give global back to local
it’s time to give global back to local because local needs global needs local
because local needs global needs local
because local needs global needs local and local needs global and I think that
and local needs global and I think that
and local needs global and I think that you know this very well here in Detroit
you know this very well here in Detroit
you know this very well here in Detroit as well you know Detroit this beautiful
as well you know Detroit this beautiful
as well you know Detroit this beautiful Detroit was almost killed by the mono
Detroit was almost killed by the mono
Detroit was almost killed by the mono industry just focused on cars and now
industry just focused on cars and now
industry just focused on cars and now there is a reviving because everybody
there is a reviving because everybody
there is a reviving because everybody started to realize that it is about
started to realize that it is about
started to realize that it is about diversity and that was one of the reason
diversity and that was one of the reason
diversity and that was one of the reason why Western man project was inviting me
why Western man project was inviting me
why Western man project was inviting me to come to Detroit because they said you
to come to Detroit because they said you
to come to Detroit because they said you know you have to bring you chicken into
know you have to bring you chicken into
know you have to bring you chicken into Detroit because maybe we can create
Detroit because maybe we can create
Detroit because maybe we can create something which is useful for this
something which is useful for this
something which is useful for this beautiful city and we started an
beautiful city and we started an
beautiful city and we started an exhibition and we built it around this
exhibition and we built it around this
exhibition and we built it around this book of this 30 million genetic
book of this 30 million genetic
book of this 30 million genetic information and we start to talk with
information and we start to talk with
information and we start to talk with different partners from the communities
different partners from the communities
different partners from the communities from the cities from the University to
from the cities from the University to
from the cities from the University to think what we can do and it was not only
think what we can do and it was not only
think what we can do and it was not only talking but was also taking action like
talking but was also taking action like
talking but was also taking action like here in this installation every
here in this installation every
here in this installation every nationality who was working on the
nationality who was working on the
nationality who was working on the cosmopolitan chicken was reading their
cosmopolitan chicken was reading their
cosmopolitan chicken was reading their part of their DNA their 50 pages in this
part of their DNA their 50 pages in this
part of their DNA their 50 pages in this big book you know the planetary
big book you know the planetary
big book you know the planetary community chickens to Queens I was
community chickens to Queens I was
community chickens to Queens I was invited also in the national art gallery
invited also in the national art gallery
invited also in the national art gallery in Zimbabwe where I was bringing the
in Zimbabwe where I was bringing the
in Zimbabwe where I was bringing the chickens into this museum in the museum
chickens into this museum in the museum
chickens into this museum in the museum we were making this installation with
we were making this installation with
we were making this installation with women from the communities
women from the communities
women from the communities and orphans normally this kind of people
and orphans normally this kind of people
and orphans normally this kind of people are never visiting a museum but now they
are never visiting a museum but now they
are never visiting a museum but now they are part of the big discussion they are
are part of the big discussion they are
are part of the big discussion they are part of thinking about globalization or
part of thinking about globalization or
part of thinking about globalization or crossing of sustainability and it gets a
crossing of sustainability and it gets a
crossing of sustainability and it gets a lot of attention from other companies
lot of attention from other companies
lot of attention from other companies like olivie they invited me to come to
like olivie they invited me to come to
like olivie they invited me to come to Ethiopia and to work against poverty
Ethiopia and to work against poverty
Ethiopia and to work against poverty because the planetary community chicken
because the planetary community chicken
because the planetary community chicken and the cosmopolitan chicken has that
and the cosmopolitan chicken has that
and the cosmopolitan chicken has that kind of content I created incubated
kind of content I created incubated
kind of content I created incubated world elry is the biggest livestock
world elry is the biggest livestock
world elry is the biggest livestock Center in the world supported by all
Center in the world supported by all
Center in the world supported by all universities around the world and
universities around the world and
universities around the world and actually what are we going to do we’re
actually what are we going to do we’re
actually what are we going to do we’re going to create forms in the communities
going to create forms in the communities
going to create forms in the communities to win but to empower the women there
to win but to empower the women there
to win but to empower the women there and to give them their own little
and to give them their own little
and to give them their own little company so that they can make eggs and
company so that they can make eggs and
company so that they can make eggs and meat for the communities because your
meat for the communities because your
meat for the communities because your communities is important and we will do
communities is important and we will do
communities is important and we will do this on several places in the world like
this on several places in the world like
this on several places in the world like here in Detroit or Zimbabwe ETO piya
here in Detroit or Zimbabwe ETO piya
here in Detroit or Zimbabwe ETO piya Belgium and we try to find the local
Belgium and we try to find the local
Belgium and we try to find the local commercial chicken on the market and
commercial chicken on the market and
commercial chicken on the market and also to bring the cross breathing’s in
also to bring the cross breathing’s in
also to bring the cross breathing’s in their communities in their garden
their communities in their garden
their communities in their garden because they have to breed them itself
because they have to breed them itself
because they have to breed them itself and like in orland urban farm here in
and like in orland urban farm here in
and like in orland urban farm here in Detroit we will have a house a house
Detroit we will have a house a house
Detroit we will have a house a house where we can breathe the chickens the
where we can breathe the chickens the
where we can breathe the chickens the chickens are part of the communities
chickens are part of the communities
chickens are part of the communities because they are carrying an ID and they
because they are carrying an ID and they
because they are carrying an ID and they provide him with eggs and meat and
provide him with eggs and meat and
provide him with eggs and meat and allowed me to see a much bigger
allowed me to see a much bigger
allowed me to see a much bigger philosophical model actually if I’m
philosophical model actually if I’m
philosophical model actually if I’m thinking about my first sketch drawing
thinking about my first sketch drawing
thinking about my first sketch drawing that I made that the red jungle fowl the
that I made that the red jungle fowl the
that I made that the red jungle fowl the source is bringing new pieces to the
source is bringing new pieces to the
source is bringing new pieces to the world is actually the same with human
world is actually the same with human
world is actually the same with human beings you know a human is an ID and it
beings you know a human is an ID and it
beings you know a human is an ID and it can spread this idea all over the world
can spread this idea all over the world
can spread this idea all over the world and it can become very complex and very
and it can become very complex and very
and it can become very complex and very diverse but if we like to make evolution
diverse but if we like to make evolution
diverse but if we like to make evolution we have to talk to each other and we
we have to talk to each other and we
we have to talk to each other and we have to bring this complexity together
have to bring this complexity together
have to bring this complexity together in a new point and it’s not only by
in a new point and it’s not only by
in a new point and it’s not only by about one ID it becomes very very very
about one ID it becomes very very very
about one ID it becomes very very very complex because there are many people
complex because there are many people
complex because there are many people diverse people diverse IDs but believe
diverse people diverse IDs but believe
diverse people diverse IDs but believe me if you don’t take the complexity with
me if you don’t take the complexity with
me if you don’t take the complexity with you there is a point that you think you
you there is a point that you think you
you there is a point that you think you go back but going back is not an option
go back but going back is not an option
go back but going back is not an option the real evolution is when you take it
the real evolution is when you take it
the real evolution is when you take it with you it’s about energy communication
with you it’s about energy communication
with you it’s about energy communication and life and actually it’s like a normal
and life and actually it’s like a normal
and life and actually it’s like a normal conversation between two people when two
conversation between two people when two
conversation between two people when two IDs are clashing to each other then
IDs are clashing to each other then
IDs are clashing to each other then there is a magic space in the middle
there is a magic space in the middle
there is a magic space in the middle because I believe more in giving comment
because I believe more in giving comment
because I believe more in giving comment than criticism and if you fill that
than criticism and if you fill that
than criticism and if you fill that magic space with the IDS of both you
magic space with the IDS of both you
magic space with the IDS of both you know then there is growing something
know then there is growing something
know then there is growing something inside which is very new Deb new thing
inside which is very new Deb new thing
inside which is very new Deb new thing with this mutation and you allowed it
with this mutation and you allowed it
with this mutation and you allowed it that’s a new evolution and the
that’s a new evolution and the
that’s a new evolution and the conclusion of my talk is this one I
conclusion of my talk is this one I
conclusion of my talk is this one I think that every organism is looking for
think that every organism is looking for
think that every organism is looking for an other organism to survive and I thank
an other organism to survive and I thank
an other organism to survive and I thank you so much
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