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okay so I thought I would start this are

okay so I thought I would start this are bit of a science experiment so what I

bit of a science experiment so what I

bit of a science experiment so what I want to know is how quickly does alcohol

want to know is how quickly does alcohol

want to know is how quickly does alcohol metabolize okay or perhaps more

metabolize okay or perhaps more

metabolize okay or perhaps more accurately you’re going to find out how

accurately you’re going to find out how

accurately you’re going to find out how quickly I metabolize alcohol okay

quickly I metabolize alcohol okay

quickly I metabolize alcohol okay so let’s give it a go bear with me bear

so let’s give it a go bear with me bear

so let’s give it a go bear with me bear with me on this one okay I’m not a cheap

with me on this one okay I’m not a cheap

with me on this one okay I’m not a cheap date I’ll tell you that much

date I’ll tell you that much

date I’ll tell you that much sure we really go crazy I’ve only got 15

sure we really go crazy I’ve only got 15

sure we really go crazy I’ve only got 15 minutes so we need to make this

minutes so we need to make this

minutes so we need to make this worthwhile okay so 500 milliliters of

worthwhile okay so 500 milliliters of

worthwhile okay so 500 milliliters of millimeters of wine okay two large

millimeters of wine okay two large

millimeters of wine okay two large glasses of wine it’s already having an

glasses of wine it’s already having an

glasses of wine it’s already having an effect dark to think about these

effect dark to think about these

effect dark to think about these questions

questions

questions how likely now are you to employ me see

how likely now are you to employ me see

how likely now are you to employ me see me do that

how likely am I to employ me how likely

how likely am I to employ me how likely are you to allow me to drive a school

are you to allow me to drive a school

are you to allow me to drive a school bus or to stand in an operating theater

bus or to stand in an operating theater

bus or to stand in an operating theater and operate on your nearest and dearest

and operate on your nearest and dearest

and operate on your nearest and dearest or to teach your children or to lead

or to teach your children or to lead

or to teach your children or to lead your organization just reflect on that

your organization just reflect on that

your organization just reflect on that for a second I’ll come back to it what

for a second I’ll come back to it what

for a second I’ll come back to it what I’m going to do in the next couple of

I’m going to do in the next couple of

I’m going to do in the next couple of minutes is give you one very simple

minutes is give you one very simple

minutes is give you one very simple solution on the thing that every single

solution on the thing that every single

solution on the thing that every single one of you can do tonight every single

one of you can do tonight every single

one of you can do tonight every single one of you can easily do it’s entirely

one of you can easily do it’s entirely

one of you can easily do it’s entirely within your control it will not cost you

within your control it will not cost you

within your control it will not cost you a single penny you will not need to work

a single penny you will not need to work

a single penny you will not need to work harder and in fact if you do it you will

harder and in fact if you do it you will

harder and in fact if you do it you will not need to exert any effort at all but

not need to exert any effort at all but

not need to exert any effort at all but if every single one of us does this

if every single one of us does this

if every single one of us does this every day in the UK for one year we will

every day in the UK for one year we will

every day in the UK for one year we will save the UK 38 billion pounds a year

save the UK 38 billion pounds a year

save the UK 38 billion pounds a year okay what is that one thing I will

okay what is that one thing I will

okay what is that one thing I will guarantee that if the whole of the UK

guarantee that if the whole of the UK

guarantee that if the whole of the UK does this one thing every day for a year

does this one thing every day for a year

does this one thing every day for a year the saving to the UK will be nearly 2%

the saving to the UK will be nearly 2%

the saving to the UK will be nearly 2% of the GDP if we include the u.s. Canada

of the GDP if we include the u.s. Canada

of the GDP if we include the u.s. Canada Japan and Germany into that it is 680

Japan and Germany into that it is 680

Japan and Germany into that it is 680 billion pounds what is it tell me what

billion pounds what is it tell me what

billion pounds what is it tell me what is it okay it’s very simple all I need

is it okay it’s very simple all I need

is it okay it’s very simple all I need you to do is to sleep that one simple

you to do is to sleep that one simple

you to do is to sleep that one simple thing not sleep forever just sleep for

thing not sleep forever just sleep for

thing not sleep forever just sleep for seven hours a night if every single

seven hours a night if every single

seven hours a night if every single working adult in the UK slept for seven

working adult in the UK slept for seven

working adult in the UK slept for seven to nine hours a night every night for

to nine hours a night every night for

to nine hours a night every night for one year it would save the UK economy 34

one year it would save the UK economy 34

one year it would save the UK economy 34 million pounds a year let’s put that in

million pounds a year let’s put that in

million pounds a year let’s put that in some context war on want say that in

some context war on want say that in

some context war on want say that in order to get 62 countries up to the

order to get 62 countries up to the

order to get 62 countries up to the Millennium Development Goals it would

Millennium Development Goals it would

Millennium Development Goals it would cost 45 billion dollars tick done in one

cost 45 billion dollars tick done in one

cost 45 billion dollars tick done in one year in the UK the debt for the NHS is

year in the UK the debt for the NHS is

year in the UK the debt for the NHS is depending on what you read 2 to 3

depending on what you read 2 to 3

depending on what you read 2 to 3 billion could set that 15 times over in

billion could set that 15 times over in

billion could set that 15 times over in one year and all we have to do is sleep

one year and all we have to do is sleep

one year and all we have to do is sleep for seven to nine hours a night maybe

for seven to nine hours a night maybe

for seven to nine hours a night maybe these goals to aspirational may be

these goals to aspirational may be

these goals to aspirational may be thinking about figures in billions is

thinking about figures in billions is

thinking about figures in billions is too difficult so let’s take it down to

too difficult so let’s take it down to

too difficult so let’s take it down to the individual level let’s take it down

the individual level let’s take it down

the individual level let’s take it down to what it means to a person so meet

to what it means to a person so meet

to what it means to a person so meet John John works for you John is part of

John John works for you John is part of

John John works for you John is part of your team John is a lovely lovely guy

your team John is a lovely lovely guy

your team John is a lovely lovely guy he’s professional he delivers you care

he’s professional he delivers you care

he’s professional he delivers you care about him

about him

about him you want him as part of your team but

you want him as part of your team but

you want him as part of your team but over the last few months something’s not

over the last few months something’s not

over the last few months something’s not been quite right with John he’s not

been quite right with John he’s not

been quite right with John he’s not really been hitting his targets he’s

really been hitting his targets he’s

really been hitting his targets he’s been a little bit late he’s been a bit

been a little bit late he’s been a bit

been a little bit late he’s been a bit poor in his decision-making he’s perhaps

poor in his decision-making he’s perhaps

poor in his decision-making he’s perhaps taken a few risky business decisions and

taken a few risky business decisions and

taken a few risky business decisions and something it’s not on his game he’s not

something it’s not on his game he’s not

something it’s not on his game he’s not performing and John takes you to one

performing and John takes you to one

performing and John takes you to one side one day and he says um I really

side one day and he says um I really

side one day and he says um I really need to talk to you about something

need to talk to you about something

need to talk to you about something that’s going on for me I’ve been

that’s going on for me I’ve been

that’s going on for me I’ve been struggling mr. Foote with this for a

struggling mr. Foote with this for a

struggling mr. Foote with this for a while

while

while but I now feel able to talk to you about

but I now feel able to talk to you about

but I now feel able to talk to you about it because not only is it affecting me

it because not only is it affecting me

it because not only is it affecting me personally now I realize it’s affecting

personally now I realize it’s affecting

personally now I realize it’s affecting my ability to this job and your caring

my ability to this job and your caring

my ability to this job and your caring sharing boss and you sit down and you

sharing boss and you sit down and you

sharing boss and you sit down and you listen to John and John tells you he’s

listen to John and John tells you he’s

listen to John and John tells you he’s got a problem with alcohol he’s been

got a problem with alcohol he’s been

got a problem with alcohol he’s been drinking and he’s been trying to manage

drinking and he’s been trying to manage

drinking and he’s been trying to manage it and it’s now affecting his ability to

it and it’s now affecting his ability to

it and it’s now affecting his ability to do the job what do you do in that

do the job what do you do in that

do the job what do you do in that incident in that moment that John shares

incident in that moment that John shares

incident in that moment that John shares and discloses that information what do

and discloses that information what do

and discloses that information what do you do well the chances are because

you do well the chances are because

you do well the chances are because you’re super warm caring compassionate

you’re super warm caring compassionate

you’re super warm caring compassionate people you make sure that John feels

people you make sure that John feels

people you make sure that John feels heard you make sure he’s got a support

heard you make sure he’s got a support

heard you make sure he’s got a support network at work you checked that he’s

network at work you checked that he’s

network at work you checked that he’s got support at home you might refer him

got support at home you might refer him

got support at home you might refer him on to a specialist organizations such as

on to a specialist organizations such as

on to a specialist organizations such as Alcoholics Anonymous the Samaritans you

Alcoholics Anonymous the Samaritans you

Alcoholics Anonymous the Samaritans you might refer him on to an internal system

might refer him on to an internal system

might refer him on to an internal system that you have such as an employee

that you have such as an employee

that you have such as an employee systems or a counselling scheme but

systems or a counselling scheme but

systems or a counselling scheme but ultimately you won’t let John leave your

ultimately you won’t let John leave your

ultimately you won’t let John leave your office until you feel he is safe secure

office until you feel he is safe secure

office until you feel he is safe secure that he feels part of the organization

that he feels part of the organization

that he feels part of the organization and there is an action plan to help him

and there is an action plan to help him

and there is an action plan to help him change his behavior if that’s what he

change his behavior if that’s what he

change his behavior if that’s what he wants to do now imagine John comes into

wants to do now imagine John comes into

wants to do now imagine John comes into the office and his behavior is exactly

the office and his behavior is exactly

the office and his behavior is exactly the same he’s making wrist kisses

the same he’s making wrist kisses

the same he’s making wrist kisses engines his late at work

engines his late at work

engines his late at work he’s argumentative with colleagues is a

he’s argumentative with colleagues is a

he’s argumentative with colleagues is a little bit hostile he’s finding it

little bit hostile he’s finding it

little bit hostile he’s finding it difficult making decisions he’s he’s not

difficult making decisions he’s he’s not

difficult making decisions he’s he’s not really there he’s finding difficult to

really there he’s finding difficult to

really there he’s finding difficult to be present he’s Moody exactly the same

be present he’s Moody exactly the same

be present he’s Moody exactly the same kinds of things but instead of saying he

kinds of things but instead of saying he

kinds of things but instead of saying he has a problem with alcohol John says I’m

has a problem with alcohol John says I’m

has a problem with alcohol John says I’m tired exactly the same outcome exactly

tired exactly the same outcome exactly

tired exactly the same outcome exactly the same behavior

the same behavior

the same behavior this time you probably say so am i John

this time you probably say so am i John

this time you probably say so am i John join the club

join the club

join the club yeah we’re all tied around here guys we

yeah we’re all tied around here guys we

yeah we’re all tied around here guys we have to do more with less that’s just

have to do more with less that’s just

have to do more with less that’s just the way it is these days welcome to the

the way it is these days welcome to the

the way it is these days welcome to the heady heights of leadership that’s just

heady heights of leadership that’s just

heady heights of leadership that’s just the way we have to behave not that

the way we have to behave not that

the way we have to behave not that supportive probably thinking yeah I feel

supportive probably thinking yeah I feel

supportive probably thinking yeah I feel exactly the same John you wouldn’t refer

exactly the same John you wouldn’t refer

exactly the same John you wouldn’t refer him on to some organizations you

him on to some organizations you

him on to some organizations you wouldn’t check his network you probably

wouldn’t check his network you probably

wouldn’t check his network you probably just pat him on the back so you’re doing

just pat him on the back so you’re doing

just pat him on the back so you’re doing a good great job keep doing it off you

a good great job keep doing it off you

a good great job keep doing it off you go

go

go but why would we do that if the outcome

but why would we do that if the outcome

but why would we do that if the outcome is exactly the same it’s just that the

is exactly the same it’s just that the

is exactly the same it’s just that the cause is different you’ll be very glad

cause is different you’ll be very glad

cause is different you’ll be very glad to know you’ll be very glad to know that

to know you’ll be very glad to know that

to know you’ll be very glad to know that this was blackcurrant juice okay because

this was blackcurrant juice okay because

this was blackcurrant juice okay because I’m a highly trained professional and I

I’m a highly trained professional and I

I’m a highly trained professional and I wouldn’t dream of drinking alcohol on

wouldn’t dream of drinking alcohol on

wouldn’t dream of drinking alcohol on the job but the point is if we are

the job but the point is if we are

the job but the point is if we are encouraging organizations to work people

encouraging organizations to work people

encouraging organizations to work people longer and longer and longer we are

longer and longer and longer we are

longer and longer and longer we are basically encouraging people to behave

basically encouraging people to behave

basically encouraging people to behave as though they had drunk

as though they had drunk

as though they had drunk two glasses of wine the effect on their

two glasses of wine the effect on their

two glasses of wine the effect on their behavior can be equivalent to drinking

behavior can be equivalent to drinking

behavior can be equivalent to drinking two glasses of wine think about how

two glasses of wine think about how

two glasses of wine think about how uncomfortable you were feeling when you

uncomfortable you were feeling when you

uncomfortable you were feeling when you thought that was alcohol when I was here

thought that was alcohol when I was here

thought that was alcohol when I was here talking to you and actually drinking

talking to you and actually drinking

talking to you and actually drinking alcohol

alcohol

alcohol the thought of me actually operating on

the thought of me actually operating on

the thought of me actually operating on your nearest and dearest or driving a

your nearest and dearest or driving a

your nearest and dearest or driving a school bus or leading our organization

school bus or leading our organization

school bus or leading our organization having drunk two glasses of alcohol so

having drunk two glasses of alcohol so

having drunk two glasses of alcohol so why would we encourage that kind of

why would we encourage that kind of

why would we encourage that kind of behavior in organizations by encouraging

behavior in organizations by encouraging

behavior in organizations by encouraging lack of sleep by working longer and

lack of sleep by working longer and

lack of sleep by working longer and longer and longer and longer hours and

longer and longer and longer hours and

longer and longer and longer hours and don’t think that this is just a

don’t think that this is just a

don’t think that this is just a leadership issue so the research that we

leadership issue so the research that we

leadership issue so the research that we did here at Ash rige is we now know that

did here at Ash rige is we now know that

did here at Ash rige is we now know that being a leader does not have to mean

being a leader does not have to mean

being a leader does not have to mean that you get poor sleep but equally poor

that you get poor sleep but equally poor

that you get poor sleep but equally poor sleep is just not the remit of leaders

sleep is just not the remit of leaders

sleep is just not the remit of leaders this isn’t something that it’s just

this isn’t something that it’s just

this isn’t something that it’s just about leadership this isn’t just about

about leadership this isn’t just about

about leadership this isn’t just about teaching leaders to look after

teaching leaders to look after

teaching leaders to look after themselves this is across the entire

themselves this is across the entire

themselves this is across the entire organization the research that we did

organization the research that we did

organization the research that we did found that even

found that even

found that even very junior people in organizations

very junior people in organizations

very junior people in organizations people with no line management

people with no line management

people with no line management responsibilities were not sleeping

responsibilities were not sleeping

responsibilities were not sleeping enough that it was showing up for them

enough that it was showing up for them

enough that it was showing up for them in a whole range of behaviors physically

in a whole range of behaviors physically

in a whole range of behaviors physically psychologically socially emotionally and

psychologically socially emotionally and

psychologically socially emotionally and cognitively people were reporting things

cognitively people were reporting things

cognitively people were reporting things like it was making them feel stressed

like it was making them feel stressed

like it was making them feel stressed and pressured they were more hostile at

and pressured they were more hostile at

and pressured they were more hostile at work they felt less able to communicate

work they felt less able to communicate

work they felt less able to communicate effectively with their peers they felt

effectively with their peers they felt

effectively with their peers they felt less likely to go into meetings it was

less likely to go into meetings it was

less likely to go into meetings it was making them physically unwell

making them physically unwell

making them physically unwell in fact we know from the research that

in fact we know from the research that

in fact we know from the research that chronic lack of sleep increases your

chronic lack of sleep increases your

chronic lack of sleep increases your rate of cardiovascular disease of stroke

rate of cardiovascular disease of stroke

rate of cardiovascular disease of stroke of type 2 diabetes and some cancers in a

of type 2 diabetes and some cancers in a

of type 2 diabetes and some cancers in a really quite significantly and profound

really quite significantly and profound

really quite significantly and profound way in fact the World Health

way in fact the World Health

way in fact the World Health Organization now classify shift work

Organization now classify shift work

Organization now classify shift work where your circadian rhythms change it

where your circadian rhythms change it

where your circadian rhythms change it is now classified as a carcinogenic

is now classified as a carcinogenic

is now classified as a carcinogenic shift work as a carcinogenic this

shift work as a carcinogenic this

shift work as a carcinogenic this doesn’t get any more serious if 34

doesn’t get any more serious if 34

doesn’t get any more serious if 34 billion pounds doesn’t scare you then

billion pounds doesn’t scare you then

billion pounds doesn’t scare you then think of it at the personal level if you

think of it at the personal level if you

think of it at the personal level if you still need convincing think about this

still need convincing think about this

still need convincing think about this an hour to an hour and a half less sleep

an hour to an hour and a half less sleep

an hour to an hour and a half less sleep per night than you need and let’s be

per night than you need and let’s be

per night than you need and let’s be honest we all probably operating on

honest we all probably operating on

honest we all probably operating on about an hour an hour and a half less

about an hour an hour and a half less

about an hour an hour and a half less than we need most nights that equates

than we need most nights that equates

than we need most nights that equates the next day so straightaway the very

the next day so straightaway the very

the next day so straightaway the very next day can reduce your level of

next day can reduce your level of

next day can reduce your level of awareness by 32% I thought it was rot

awareness by 32% I thought it was rot

awareness by 32% I thought it was rot worth writing that on the slide because

worth writing that on the slide because

worth writing that on the slide because for those of you operating on a sleep

for those of you operating on a sleep

for those of you operating on a sleep debt you won’t be able to remember the

debt you won’t be able to remember the

debt you won’t be able to remember the figures so I thought I’d know better

figures so I thought I’d know better

figures so I thought I’d know better reinforce it for you you are 32 percent

reinforce it for you you are 32 percent

reinforce it for you you are 32 percent less alert the next day so what’s the

less alert the next day so what’s the

less alert the next day so what’s the business case here if you have three

business case here if you have three

business case here if you have three people working for you and each of them

people working for you and each of them

people working for you and each of them have an hour and a half less sleep per

have an hour and a half less sleep per

have an hour and a half less sleep per night than they need you are paying for

night than they need you are paying for

night than they need you are paying for one person to be asleep all day not

one person to be asleep all day not

one person to be asleep all day not particularly effective is it if you have

particularly effective is it if you have

particularly effective is it if you have 30 people working for you they are you

30 people working for you they are you

30 people working for you they are you paying for 10 people to be asleep all

paying for 10 people to be asleep all

paying for 10 people to be asleep all day so if you don’t care about them as

day so if you don’t care about them as

day so if you don’t care about them as an individual think

an individual think

an individual think about the business case so what does

about the business case so what does

about the business case so what does this actually mean what can we actually

this actually mean what can we actually

this actually mean what can we actually do about it

do about it

do about it well obviously the answer is to sleep

well obviously the answer is to sleep

well obviously the answer is to sleep more but it’s about thinking about the

more but it’s about thinking about the

more but it’s about thinking about the individual it’s about thinking about the

individual it’s about thinking about the

individual it’s about thinking about the organization and it’s about thinking

organization and it’s about thinking

organization and it’s about thinking about the economy as a whole and it’s

about the economy as a whole and it’s

about the economy as a whole and it’s actually really simple because if we

actually really simple because if we

actually really simple because if we start to think about the cost of the

start to think about the cost of the

start to think about the cost of the individual physical health psychological

individual physical health psychological

individual physical health psychological health emotional health and then it

health emotional health and then it

health emotional health and then it starts to show up in the organization so

starts to show up in the organization so

starts to show up in the organization so we know that poor sleep lends itself to

we know that poor sleep lends itself to

we know that poor sleep lends itself to cyberloafing unethical behavior

cyberloafing unethical behavior

cyberloafing unethical behavior hostility with colleagues supervisor

hostility with colleagues supervisor

hostility with colleagues supervisor abuse so this is at that organizational

abuse so this is at that organizational

abuse so this is at that organizational level and then when we get to the UK

level and then when we get to the UK

level and then when we get to the UK we’re talking about thirty four billion

we’re talking about thirty four billion

we’re talking about thirty four billion pounds saved if we take this seriously

pounds saved if we take this seriously

pounds saved if we take this seriously so what do we do let’s take a step back

so what do we do let’s take a step back

so what do we do let’s take a step back in the manufacturing industry there’s

in the manufacturing industry there’s

in the manufacturing industry there’s now a huge amount of emphasis on

now a huge amount of emphasis on

now a huge amount of emphasis on something called predictive maintenance

something called predictive maintenance

something called predictive maintenance it’s really simple if you run a factory

it’s really simple if you run a factory

it’s really simple if you run a factory you in a production line you want to

you in a production line you want to

you in a production line you want to know when your machine breaks down

know when your machine breaks down

know when your machine breaks down because if you know when your machine is

because if you know when your machine is

because if you know when your machine is going to break down you can intervene

going to break down you can intervene

going to break down you can intervene before it breaks down and you save

before it breaks down and you save

before it breaks down and you save hundreds of thousands of pounds a huge

hundreds of thousands of pounds a huge

hundreds of thousands of pounds a huge amount of disruptive innovation is going

amount of disruptive innovation is going

amount of disruptive innovation is going on predictive maintenance in these kinds

on predictive maintenance in these kinds

on predictive maintenance in these kinds of production lines because the ability

of production lines because the ability

of production lines because the ability to solve the problem before it becomes

to solve the problem before it becomes

to solve the problem before it becomes an issue and before your production line

an issue and before your production line

an issue and before your production line breaks down can not only save hundreds

breaks down can not only save hundreds

breaks down can not only save hundreds of thousands of pounds but it means you

of thousands of pounds but it means you

of thousands of pounds but it means you can choose when you look after your

can choose when you look after your

can choose when you look after your machine it is just more effective in the

machine it is just more effective in the

machine it is just more effective in the manufacturing industry we know from our

manufacturing industry we know from our

manufacturing industry we know from our research we know from all of the

research we know from all of the

research we know from all of the research around sleep how important is

research around sleep how important is

research around sleep how important is for well-being how important it is for

for well-being how important it is for

for well-being how important it is for health how important it is for the

health how important it is for the

health how important it is for the economy as a whole we know what we need

economy as a whole we know what we need

economy as a whole we know what we need to do so if we are thinking about

to do so if we are thinking about

to do so if we are thinking about predictive maintenance in the

predictive maintenance in the

predictive maintenance in the manufacturing industry then surely what

manufacturing industry then surely what

manufacturing industry then surely what we need to think about with our own

we need to think about with our own

we need to think about with our own well-being is the simple answer to save

well-being is the simple answer to save

well-being is the simple answer to save thirty eight billion pounds a year

thirty eight billion pounds a year

thirty eight billion pounds a year we need to think of ourselves in the

we need to think of ourselves in the

we need to think of ourselves in the same way as a machine we know what we

same way as a machine we know what we

same way as a machine we know what we need to look after ourselves we know

need to look after ourselves we know

need to look after ourselves we know what we need to do to stop ourselves

what we need to do to stop ourselves

what we need to do to stop ourselves breaking down we need to treat ourselves

breaking down we need to treat ourselves

breaking down we need to treat ourselves with some predictive maintenance thank

with some predictive maintenance thank

with some predictive maintenance thank you very much

you very much

you very much [Applause]

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