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TEDx Whitehall Women Leyla Josephine | Leyla Josephine | TEDxWhitehallWomen


oh I wasn’t expecting that to start off

oh I wasn’t expecting that to start off my first TED talk but here we are that

my first TED talk but here we are that

my first TED talk but here we are that didn’t come out in my time right I’m

didn’t come out in my time right I’m

didn’t come out in my time right I’m just joking I’m just doing my job as a

just joking I’m just doing my job as a

just joking I’m just doing my job as a poet is to tell stories I tell my own

poet is to tell stories I tell my own

poet is to tell stories I tell my own personal stories and when working with

personal stories and when working with

personal stories and when working with others I encourage them and facilitate

others I encourage them and facilitate

others I encourage them and facilitate them to tell their own I do this because

them to tell their own I do this because

them to tell their own I do this because I believe that stories are magic they

I believe that stories are magic they

I believe that stories are magic they bridge us together they point out our

bridge us together they point out our

bridge us together they point out our similarities and make us feel less alone

similarities and make us feel less alone

similarities and make us feel less alone they help us understand this crazy Begg

they help us understand this crazy Begg

they help us understand this crazy Begg madness that we call life I tell my own

madness that we call life I tell my own

madness that we call life I tell my own personal stories and I usually talk

personal stories and I usually talk

personal stories and I usually talk about taboo subjects subjects that

about taboo subjects subjects that

about taboo subjects subjects that nobody else wants to touch subjects that

nobody else wants to touch subjects that

nobody else wants to touch subjects that make us feel uncomfortable or awkward

make us feel uncomfortable or awkward

make us feel uncomfortable or awkward subjects that we keep under our beds or

subjects that we keep under our beds or

subjects that we keep under our beds or enter closets just out of sight I do

enter closets just out of sight I do

enter closets just out of sight I do this because I believe that by sharing

this because I believe that by sharing

this because I believe that by sharing my own personal stories about those

my own personal stories about those

my own personal stories about those horrible uncomfortable things helps

horrible uncomfortable things helps

horrible uncomfortable things helps dilute the shame surrounding them and I

dilute the shame surrounding them and I

dilute the shame surrounding them and I believe shame is one of the most

believe shame is one of the most

believe shame is one of the most dangerous emotions that anyone can feel

dangerous emotions that anyone can feel

dangerous emotions that anyone can feel I wrote a poem in 2014 when I was age 21

I wrote a poem in 2014 when I was age 21

I wrote a poem in 2014 when I was age 21 about an abortion I had had I was trying

about an abortion I had had I was trying

about an abortion I had had I was trying to make sense of this experience I’d had

to make sense of this experience I’d had

to make sense of this experience I’d had even years later I released it on the

even years later I released it on the

even years later I released it on the internet what maybe on reflection wasn’t

internet what maybe on reflection wasn’t

internet what maybe on reflection wasn’t the cleverest ideas but I did it anyway

the cleverest ideas but I did it anyway

the cleverest ideas but I did it anyway because I wanted to make sense of this

because I wanted to make sense of this

because I wanted to make sense of this thing that nobody was talking about that

thing that nobody was talking about that

thing that nobody was talking about that had so much shame wrapped against it

had so much shame wrapped against it

had so much shame wrapped against it a lot of women have abortions and it’s

a lot of women have abortions and it’s

a lot of women have abortions and it’s medical and it’s a procedure and it’s

medical and it’s a procedure and it’s

medical and it’s a procedure and it’s easy and I love that I think that’s

easy and I love that I think that’s

easy and I love that I think that’s amazing

amazing

amazing but for me it wasn’t like that it felt

but for me it wasn’t like that it felt

but for me it wasn’t like that it felt very difficult and very complex it was a

very difficult and very complex it was a

very difficult and very complex it was a hard decision and it was a shameful

hard decision and it was a shameful

hard decision and it was a shameful decision for myself and I don’t really

decision for myself and I don’t really

decision for myself and I don’t really know why because at the same time of

know why because at the same time of

know why because at the same time of having all these feelings I also felt so

having all these feelings I also felt so

having all these feelings I also felt so much gratitude that I lived in a country

much gratitude that I lived in a country

much gratitude that I lived in a country where I was able to choose I was able to

where I was able to choose I was able to

where I was able to choose I was able to choose with my own body so I had all of

choose with my own body so I had all of

choose with my own body so I had all of this stuff going on even years later so

this stuff going on even years later so

this stuff going on even years later so I decided to put it on the page and then

I decided to put it on the page and then

I decided to put it on the page and then in a way I kind of could look at it and

in a way I kind of could look at it and

in a way I kind of could look at it and look at all its complexities and try and

look at all its complexities and try and

look at all its complexities and try and make sense of it now some people ask me

make sense of it now some people ask me

make sense of it now some people ask me know if it was the rape or a wrong

know if it was the rape or a wrong

know if it was the rape or a wrong decision and I don’t think life can be

decision and I don’t think life can be

decision and I don’t think life can be categorized into rates or wrongs things

categorized into rates or wrongs things

categorized into rates or wrongs things are not that simple different paths are

are not that simple different paths are

are not that simple different paths are leads out for us at different times and

leads out for us at different times and

leads out for us at different times and we must blindly choose and hope for the

we must blindly choose and hope for the

we must blindly choose and hope for the best and I think for me it was the best

best and I think for me it was the best

best and I think for me it was the best so the video was shared on Huffington

so the video was shared on Huffington

so the video was shared on Huffington Post upworthy and the Guardian and it

Post upworthy and the Guardian and it

Post upworthy and the Guardian and it became viral and I instantly got

became viral and I instantly got

became viral and I instantly got messages from women all over the world

messages from women all over the world

messages from women all over the world coming forward and seeing that they had

coming forward and seeing that they had

coming forward and seeing that they had the same experience and for a minute we

the same experience and for a minute we

the same experience and for a minute we all feel a little less alone and that to

all feel a little less alone and that to

all feel a little less alone and that to me was magic but then I went to sleep

me was magic but then I went to sleep

me was magic but then I went to sleep naively and thought that that was my job

naively and thought that that was my job

naively and thought that that was my job done like pat on the back done

done like pat on the back done

done like pat on the back done unfortunately that was not the case

unfortunately that was not the case

unfortunately that was not the case abortion as we all know is a very hot

abortion as we all know is a very hot

abortion as we all know is a very hot topic in every single country of the

topic in every single country of the

topic in every single country of the world and overnight my mbox which was

world and overnight my mbox which was

world and overnight my mbox which was once a place of love and support and a

once a place of love and support and a

once a place of love and support and a newfound community became a police that

newfound community became a police that

newfound community became a police that was much more sinister it had a lot of

was much more sinister it had a lot of

was much more sinister it had a lot of messages that were mean threatening

messages that were mean threatening

messages that were mean threatening scary and very unsettling there was a

scary and very unsettling there was a

scary and very unsettling there was a couple of comments that were quite funny

couple of comments that were quite funny

couple of comments that were quite funny my favorite being I can’t tell with her

my favorite being I can’t tell with her

my favorite being I can’t tell with her strong Scottish accent if she’s a

strong Scottish accent if she’s a

strong Scottish accent if she’s a brilliant poet or as dumb as a teapot I

brilliant poet or as dumb as a teapot I

brilliant poet or as dumb as a teapot I really like that one and there’s other

really like that one and there’s other

really like that one and there’s other ones that I’m not going to repeat today

ones that I’m not going to repeat today

ones that I’m not going to repeat today because I don’t think that they’re

because I don’t think that they’re

because I don’t think that they’re useful but I bet a lot of women in the

useful but I bet a lot of women in the

useful but I bet a lot of women in the room have been called them as well but

room have been called them as well but

room have been called them as well but yeah it’s funny when somebody was

yeah it’s funny when somebody was

yeah it’s funny when somebody was talking earlier about trolls under the

talking earlier about trolls under the

talking earlier about trolls under the bridge

bridge

bridge he was like yes trolls under the bridge

he was like yes trolls under the bridge

he was like yes trolls under the bridge that’s what happened to me as well but

that’s what happened to me as well but

that’s what happened to me as well but time moves on and news changes and I

time moves on and news changes and I

time moves on and news changes and I kept performing the poem I think she was

kept performing the poem I think she was

kept performing the poem I think she was a she because I believed that hopefully

a she because I believed that hopefully

a she because I believed that hopefully it was diluting the shame about the

it was diluting the shame about the

it was diluting the shame about the subject that no one was talking about

subject that no one was talking about

subject that no one was talking about and I also was kind of doing it as a bit

and I also was kind of doing it as a bit

and I also was kind of doing it as a bit of a resistance but I don’t do the poem

of a resistance but I don’t do the poem

of a resistance but I don’t do the poem as much anymore I’m older now I have

as much anymore I’m older now I have

as much anymore I’m older now I have other stories to tell

other stories to tell

other stories to tell I have other shame to dilute and I see

I have other shame to dilute and I see

I have other shame to dilute and I see this happen every day and my work when

this happen every day and my work when

this happen every day and my work when I’m working with young people with

I’m working with young people with

I’m working with young people with adults with additional needs and

adults with additional needs and

adults with additional needs and presents I see shame being diluted by

presents I see shame being diluted by

presents I see shame being diluted by talking just talking and I don’t expect

talking just talking and I don’t expect

talking just talking and I don’t expect everyone to agree with me on abortion

everyone to agree with me on abortion

everyone to agree with me on abortion but I think that we’re now at the point

but I think that we’re now at the point

but I think that we’re now at the point where we should be able to disagree

where we should be able to disagree

where we should be able to disagree without silencing each other and without

without silencing each other and without

without silencing each other and without shaming each other and I’m going to do

shaming each other and I’m going to do

shaming each other and I’m going to do the poem again for you today and I’m

the poem again for you today and I’m

the poem again for you today and I’m going to do it as a dedication it’s a

going to do it as a dedication it’s a

going to do it as a dedication it’s a dedication to the one and three women in

dedication to the one and three women in

dedication to the one and three women in the UK that have abortions it’s for the

the UK that have abortions it’s for the

the UK that have abortions it’s for the 70,000 women worldwide per year that die

70,000 women worldwide per year that die

70,000 women worldwide per year that die from backstreet abortions it’s for our

from backstreet abortions it’s for our

from backstreet abortions it’s for our sisters in Ireland who are just about to

sisters in Ireland who are just about to

sisters in Ireland who are just about to go for the first time and vote to

go for the first time and vote to

go for the first time and vote to legalize abortion it’s for the women and

legalize abortion it’s for the women and

legalize abortion it’s for the women and present in El Salvador for having

present in El Salvador for having

present in El Salvador for having abortions it’s for the Dominican

abortions it’s for the Dominican

abortions it’s for the Dominican Republic and all other countries

Republic and all other countries

Republic and all other countries throughout the world they only have

throughout the world they only have

throughout the world they only have abortion if it threatens the women’s

abortion if it threatens the women’s

abortion if it threatens the women’s life and finally it’s for all those

life and finally it’s for all those

life and finally it’s for all those women that were faced with the same

women that were faced with the same

women that were faced with the same choice but decided to become mothers I

choice but decided to become mothers I

choice but decided to become mothers I salute you I see you I am one of you and

salute you I see you I am one of you and

salute you I see you I am one of you and we will stay on the breach and we will

we will stay on the breach and we will

we will stay on the breach and we will cry and we will grieve and we will laugh

cry and we will grieve and we will laugh

cry and we will grieve and we will laugh and maybe we’ll disagree but we will not

and maybe we’ll disagree but we will not

and maybe we’ll disagree but we will not shy away from this subject because

shy away from this subject because

shy away from this subject because that’s the thing about shame it tends to

that’s the thing about shame it tends to

that’s the thing about shame it tends to scuttle under the beds when you look

scuttle under the beds when you look

scuttle under the beds when you look directly at it when you shine light upon

directly at it when you shine light upon

directly at it when you shine light upon it

it

it I think she was a she I think she was as

I think she was a she I think she was as

I think she was a she I think she was as she and I think she might have looked

she and I think she might have looked

she and I think she might have looked exactly like me

exactly like me

exactly like me filled cheeks hazel eyes and thick brown

filled cheeks hazel eyes and thick brown

filled cheeks hazel eyes and thick brown hair that I could have plaited into

hair that I could have plaited into

hair that I could have plaited into dreams at night I would have stuck up

dreams at night I would have stuck up

dreams at night I would have stuck up blue stars on her ceiling and told her

blue stars on her ceiling and told her

blue stars on her ceiling and told her they were fireflies to protect her from

they were fireflies to protect her from

they were fireflies to protect her from the dark I would have told her stories

the dark I would have told her stories

the dark I would have told her stories about her grandfather we could have fed

about her grandfather we could have fed

about her grandfather we could have fed the Swans at Victoria Park she would

the Swans at Victoria Park she would

the Swans at Victoria Park she would have been like you two with long limbs

have been like you two with long limbs

have been like you two with long limbs and her sarcastic smile and the newest

and her sarcastic smile and the newest

and her sarcastic smile and the newest pair of catch she would have been tough

pair of catch she would have been tough

pair of catch she would have been tough tougher than I ever was and I would have

tougher than I ever was and I would have

tougher than I ever was and I would have taught her all that my mother taught me

taught her all that my mother taught me

taught her all that my mother taught me and I would have taken her to the

and I would have taken her to the

and I would have taken her to the museums and there we could see the bone

museums and there we could see the bone

museums and there we could see the bone dinosaurs and look to them and wonder

dinosaurs and look to them and wonder

dinosaurs and look to them and wonder about all the things that came before

about all the things that came before

about all the things that came before she was born she could have been born

she was born she could have been born

she was born she could have been born and I would have made sure there was

and I would have made sure there was

and I would have made sure there was space on the wall to measure her height

space on the wall to measure her height

space on the wall to measure her height is she grew I would have made sure I was

is she grew I would have made sure I was

is she grew I would have made sure I was a good mother to look up to but I would

a good mother to look up to but I would

a good mother to look up to but I would have supported her right to choose to

have supported her right to choose to

have supported her right to choose to choose a life for herself a path for

choose a life for herself a path for

choose a life for herself a path for herself I am sorry but it came at the

herself I am sorry but it came at the

herself I am sorry but it came at the wrong time I am not ashamed I am not

wrong time I am not ashamed I am not

wrong time I am not ashamed I am not ashamed I’m so sick of keeping these

ashamed I’m so sick of keeping these

ashamed I’m so sick of keeping these words contained I am not ashamed I was a

words contained I am not ashamed I was a

words contained I am not ashamed I was a teenage girl with a boy she left between

teenage girl with a boy she left between

teenage girl with a boy she left between her thighs that felt very far away Derby

her thighs that felt very far away Derby

her thighs that felt very far away Derby days and Dole don’t do family planning

days and Dole don’t do family planning

days and Dole don’t do family planning well I am one and three I am one and

well I am one and three I am one and

well I am one and three I am one and three I had to carve down that cherry

three I had to carve down that cherry

three I had to carve down that cherry tree that had Richard itself in my blood

tree that had Richard itself in my blood

tree that had Richard itself in my blood and blossoms and my brain of

and blossoms and my brain of

and blossoms and my brain of responsibility I didn’t have the age or

responsibility I didn’t have the age or

responsibility I didn’t have the age or energy to maintain the branches casting

energy to maintain the branches casting

energy to maintain the branches casting shadows over the rest of my garden the

shadows over the rest of my garden the

shadows over the rest of my garden the bark causing my thoughts my heart to

bark causing my thoughts my heart to

bark causing my thoughts my heart to harden I am not ashamed

harden I am not ashamed

harden I am not ashamed it’s a hollowness that feels fill a

it’s a hollowness that feels fill a

it’s a hollowness that feels fill a numbness that feels heavy stop trying to

numbness that feels heavy stop trying to

numbness that feels heavy stop trying to fit how this feels on an NHS bereavement

fit how this feels on an NHS bereavement

fit how this feels on an NHS bereavement brochure already I am allowed to feel it

brochure already I am allowed to feel it

brochure already I am allowed to feel it oh I am allowed to feel I am women now I

oh I am allowed to feel I am women now I

oh I am allowed to feel I am women now I am made of steel and she wasn’t a girl

am made of steel and she wasn’t a girl

am made of steel and she wasn’t a girl and she wasn’t a boy that’s just the

and she wasn’t a boy that’s just the

and she wasn’t a boy that’s just the you received to keep you out of

you received to keep you out of

you received to keep you out of Parliament and stuck on maternity leave

Parliament and stuck on maternity leave

Parliament and stuck on maternity leave don’t you mutter murder on me seventy

don’t you mutter murder on me seventy

don’t you mutter murder on me seventy thousand pair

thousand pair

thousand pair year 70,000 per year that’s 192 per day

year 70,000 per year that’s 192 per day

year 70,000 per year that’s 192 per day from coat hangers painkillers the back

from coat hangers painkillers the back

from coat hangers painkillers the back alleyway we don’t you mutter murder on

alleyway we don’t you mutter murder on

alleyway we don’t you mutter murder on me

me

me worldwide performing abortion like

worldwide performing abortion like

worldwide performing abortion like homework looking for the answers in the

homework looking for the answers in the

homework looking for the answers in the grooves of our palms the bulges and her

grooves of our palms the bulges and her

grooves of our palms the bulges and her belly’s the west burrs and her ears only

belly’s the west burrs and her ears only

belly’s the west burrs and her ears only to be confronted with question marks

to be confronted with question marks

to be confronted with question marks women have been hidden away in the

women have been hidden away in the

women have been hidden away in the history books after all its history has

history books after all its history has

history books after all its history has story well this is her story our story

story well this is her story our story

story well this is her story our story goddamnit this is my story and it will

goddamnit this is my story and it will

goddamnit this is my story and it will not be written in pencil and erase with

not be written in pencil and erase with

not be written in pencil and erase with guilt it will be written and pen and

guilt it will be written and pen and

guilt it will be written and pen and spoken with courage you will hear it on

spoken with courage you will hear it on

spoken with courage you will hear it on the radio on your way to work you will

the radio on your way to work you will

the radio on your way to work you will study it in English you will read the

study it in English you will read the

study it in English you will read the biter on the bulletin boards next to the

biter on the bulletin boards next to the

biter on the bulletin boards next to the flyer about yoga for babies because I am

flyer about yoga for babies because I am

flyer about yoga for babies because I am not ashamed I am a woman now I will not

not ashamed I am a woman now I will not

not ashamed I am a woman now I will not be tamed and I have a determination that

be tamed and I have a determination that

be tamed and I have a determination that this termination will still have a form

this termination will still have a form

this termination will still have a form of creation it will not be wasted

of creation it will not be wasted

of creation it will not be wasted because this is my body this is my body

because this is my body this is my body

because this is my body this is my body and I’m sorry but I can’t care about

and I’m sorry but I can’t care about

and I’m sorry but I can’t care about your ignorant views when I become a

your ignorant views when I become a

your ignorant views when I become a mother it will be when I choose thank

mother it will be when I choose thank

mother it will be when I choose thank you so much for having

you so much for having

you so much for having [Applause]

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