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so JD you just learned some roma that’s

so JD you just learned some roma that’s roll up or die stadt oddish or what’s

roll up or die stadt oddish or what’s

roll up or die stadt oddish or what’s working what are you doing I know my

working what are you doing I know my

working what are you doing I know my buzzing may not be perfect but I wanted

buzzing may not be perfect but I wanted

buzzing may not be perfect but I wanted to talk to you today a little bit about

to talk to you today a little bit about

to talk to you today a little bit about how I arrived in this great city and

how I arrived in this great city and

how I arrived in this great city and what I’ve learned a little bit working

what I’ve learned a little bit working

what I’ve learned a little bit working with the Roman I first actually came

with the Roman I first actually came

with the Roman I first actually came into contact with robbaz back in all 40

into contact with robbaz back in all 40

into contact with robbaz back in all 40 of 2007 my wife and I went to a festival

of 2007 my wife and I went to a festival

of 2007 my wife and I went to a festival near our town and there was a guy at the

near our town and there was a guy at the

near our town and there was a guy at the festival Roma guy he had a sign and he

festival Roma guy he had a sign and he

festival Roma guy he had a sign and he was carrying around the whole day and it

was carrying around the whole day and it

was carrying around the whole day and it said he bald beyond war I was like wow I

said he bald beyond war I was like wow I

said he bald beyond war I was like wow I took a picture of it I couldn’t find my

took a picture of it I couldn’t find my

took a picture of it I couldn’t find my picture for this presentation

picture for this presentation

picture for this presentation unfortunately I was like hey there’s

unfortunately I was like hey there’s

unfortunately I was like hey there’s more to the Roma than I thought about

more to the Roma than I thought about

more to the Roma than I thought about and we were going around the festival

and we were going around the festival

and we were going around the festival and looking at all that all the things

and looking at all that all the things

and looking at all that all the things that different people have made and

that different people have made and

that different people have made and meeting Roma seeing performances and

meeting Roma seeing performances and

meeting Roma seeing performances and dance and their culture and and I hadn’t

dance and their culture and and I hadn’t

dance and their culture and and I hadn’t really thought much about Rome until I

really thought much about Rome until I

really thought much about Rome until I met my wife because she was interested

met my wife because she was interested

met my wife because she was interested in that and I was like wow Roma

in that and I was like wow Roma

in that and I was like wow Roma interesting you know you can see on

interesting you know you can see on

interesting you know you can see on their flag they have this wheel from

their flag they have this wheel from

their flag they have this wheel from their time many centuries ago when they

their time many centuries ago when they

their time many centuries ago when they were traveling from India cross through

were traveling from India cross through

were traveling from India cross through the Iran picking up different pieces of

the Iran picking up different pieces of

the Iran picking up different pieces of language along the way all the way into

language along the way all the way into

language along the way all the way into Europe from maybe the 9th century into

Europe from maybe the 9th century into

Europe from maybe the 9th century into 16th century they’re scattered all over

16th century they’re scattered all over

16th century they’re scattered all over Europe some of the largest Roma

Europe some of the largest Roma

Europe some of the largest Roma communities in Europe are in Bulgaria

communities in Europe are in Bulgaria

communities in Europe are in Bulgaria Romania Hungary we also have some in

Romania Hungary we also have some in

Romania Hungary we also have some in Serbia and in different areas even here

Serbia and in different areas even here

Serbia and in different areas even here in Bosnia we have 10,000 all told world

in Bosnia we have 10,000 all told world

in Bosnia we have 10,000 all told world why there’s something like estimated

why there’s something like estimated

why there’s something like estimated amount of 10 million

amount of 10 million

amount of 10 million Romo now Romo don’t off and identify as

Romo now Romo don’t off and identify as

Romo now Romo don’t off and identify as roma but through different researchers

roma but through different researchers

roma but through different researchers in DNA they can be traced that there a

in DNA they can be traced that there a

in DNA they can be traced that there a lot of their DNA comes from India

lot of their DNA comes from India

lot of their DNA comes from India originally this is my wife Cora Maria

originally this is my wife Cora Maria

originally this is my wife Cora Maria and she kind of sets the my discovery of

and she kind of sets the my discovery of

and she kind of sets the my discovery of aroma she first came to stereo in 2000

aroma she first came to stereo in 2000

aroma she first came to stereo in 2000 2002 2003 to visit and work with Roman

2002 2003 to visit and work with Roman

2002 2003 to visit and work with Roman on like a gap year after high school and

on like a gap year after high school and

on like a gap year after high school and she she fell in love with the room and

she she fell in love with the room and

she she fell in love with the room and she decided to go learn Bosnian Serb in

she decided to go learn Bosnian Serb in

she decided to go learn Bosnian Serb in creation in Austria and then she came

creation in Austria and then she came

creation in Austria and then she came back in her summers in different times

back in her summers in different times

back in her summers in different times and cut the dream could she build a

and cut the dream could she build a

and cut the dream could she build a preschool from her own she saw the

preschool from her own she saw the

preschool from her own she saw the plight of the Roma you know the EU calls

plight of the Roma you know the EU calls

plight of the Roma you know the EU calls them you know we’re sorry the world bank

them you know we’re sorry the world bank

them you know we’re sorry the world bank calls it one of the most struggling

calls it one of the most struggling

calls it one of the most struggling minorities largest struggling minority

minorities largest struggling minority

minorities largest struggling minority in Eastern Europe and eat and the seven

in Eastern Europe and eat and the seven

in Eastern Europe and eat and the seven the world bank also says seventy percent

the world bank also says seventy percent

the world bank also says seventy percent of Roma families are in deep poverty the

of Roma families are in deep poverty the

of Roma families are in deep poverty the EU has put many programs together to try

EU has put many programs together to try

EU has put many programs together to try to help Roma and they and they say to

to help Roma and they and they say to

to help Roma and they and they say to integrate Roma it’s it’s all of our

integrate Roma it’s it’s all of our

integrate Roma it’s it’s all of our responsibilities in the European

responsibilities in the European

responsibilities in the European community okay so some of these things

community okay so some of these things

community okay so some of these things you might not have been aware of about

you might not have been aware of about

you might not have been aware of about the Roma they’re really really

the Roma they’re really really

the Roma they’re really really challenged it to meet education health

challenged it to meet education health

challenged it to meet education health care and economic needs they have lots

care and economic needs they have lots

care and economic needs they have lots of gaps between them and the rest of

of gaps between them and the rest of

of gaps between them and the rest of normal people and so I I was like well

normal people and so I I was like well

normal people and so I I was like well maybe I can somehow influence get

maybe I can somehow influence get

maybe I can somehow influence get involved in this project of my wives how

involved in this project of my wives how

involved in this project of my wives how can i use my business background and

can i use my business background and

can i use my business background and support her desire to start this role of

support her desire to start this role of

support her desire to start this role of preschool and so you know we came on a

preschool and so you know we came on a

preschool and so you know we came on a visit like could like a business

visit like could like a business

visit like could like a business from America live in Bosnia it was a

from America live in Bosnia it was a

from America live in Bosnia it was a real big question for me else guy stood

real big question for me else guy stood

real big question for me else guy stood quite scared we came April 2008 and we

quite scared we came April 2008 and we

quite scared we came April 2008 and we drove the tuzla you know we went on the

drove the tuzla you know we went on the

drove the tuzla you know we went on the state road you know and it was just like

state road you know and it was just like

state road you know and it was just like oh can we pull over please and if and we

oh can we pull over please and if and we

oh can we pull over please and if and we got to Tuzla and my wife Brandon is so

got to Tuzla and my wife Brandon is so

got to Tuzla and my wife Brandon is so much she knew there was a Roman in the

much she knew there was a Roman in the

much she knew there was a Roman in the center of Tuzla that you knew and we had

center of Tuzla that you knew and we had

center of Tuzla that you knew and we had a coffee with her and I was really

a coffee with her and I was really

a coffee with her and I was really shocked at how small the community was

shocked at how small the community was

shocked at how small the community was glossy in general but the Roma community

glossy in general but the Roma community

glossy in general but the Roma community and I started to gain some some

and I started to gain some some

and I started to gain some some understanding of their different

understanding of their different

understanding of their different challenges i visited some different

challenges i visited some different

challenges i visited some different settlements and baratza dulles Martha

settlements and baratza dulles Martha

settlements and baratza dulles Martha and I started to understand a little bit

and I started to understand a little bit

and I started to understand a little bit about the Roman towards the end of the

about the Roman towards the end of the

about the Roman towards the end of the week I was able to give a speech to

week I was able to give a speech to

week I was able to give a speech to aroma group and a better and Lady

aroma group and a better and Lady

aroma group and a better and Lady veteran translated into Bosnia for me I

veteran translated into Bosnia for me I

veteran translated into Bosnia for me I I was really passionate about my

I was really passionate about my

I was really passionate about my background which comes from a mixed-race

background which comes from a mixed-race

background which comes from a mixed-race family I’m african-american Irish and

family I’m african-american Irish and

family I’m african-american Irish and German and all through my life I had not

German and all through my life I had not

German and all through my life I had not believed the myths and lies about what

believed the myths and lies about what

believed the myths and lies about what could hold me back as an

could hold me back as an

could hold me back as an african-american or essa a dark person

african-american or essa a dark person

african-american or essa a dark person and I always just gone forward and into

and I always just gone forward and into

and I always just gone forward and into the abyss I didn’t know it was possible

the abyss I didn’t know it was possible

the abyss I didn’t know it was possible different a lot of my family different

different a lot of my family different

different a lot of my family different people had come from great great

people had come from great great

people had come from great great grandson of slaves you know my

grandson of slaves you know my

grandson of slaves you know my grandfather was on the on the

grandfather was on the on the

grandfather was on the on the Mississippi going in the backs of places

Mississippi going in the backs of places

Mississippi going in the backs of places and places where you weren’t supposed to

and places where you weren’t supposed to

and places where you weren’t supposed to be as a as an african-american or you

be as a as an african-american or you

be as a as an african-american or you might get lynched and I heard all these

might get lynched and I heard all these

might get lynched and I heard all these stories growing up but I never believed

stories growing up but I never believed

stories growing up but I never believed them I just was like I’ll just ignore

them I just was like I’ll just ignore

them I just was like I’ll just ignore everything and try to do what I can do

everything and try to do what I can do

everything and try to do what I can do and I felt like this this chameleon with

and I felt like this this chameleon with

and I felt like this this chameleon with the Roman that like I could show them

the Roman that like I could show them

the Roman that like I could show them the way maybe I could show them the way

the way maybe I could show them the way

the way maybe I could show them the way you know african-americans had come out

you know african-americans had come out

you know african-americans had come out of their slavery Africa

of their slavery Africa

of their slavery Africa that come out of their educational honey

that come out of their educational honey

that come out of their educational honey unequal pneus african-americans had

unequal pneus african-americans had

unequal pneus african-americans had found great leaders like Martin Luther

found great leaders like Martin Luther

found great leaders like Martin Luther King to bridge the gap to the wider

King to bridge the gap to the wider

King to bridge the gap to the wider community to bring in the African

community to bring in the African

community to bring in the African Americans to the American community why

Americans to the American community why

Americans to the American community why couldn’t I be the bridge maybe for the

couldn’t I be the bridge maybe for the

couldn’t I be the bridge maybe for the Roman into the boss and community how

Roman into the boss and community how

Roman into the boss and community how could I be a person who made awareness

could I be a person who made awareness

could I be a person who made awareness for the Bosnians of Roma what could i do

for the Bosnians of Roma what could i do

for the Bosnians of Roma what could i do and i gave this impassioned speech about

and i gave this impassioned speech about

and i gave this impassioned speech about Martha Martin Luther King it was

Martha Martin Luther King it was

Martha Martin Luther King it was interesting we heard about that earlier

interesting we heard about that earlier

interesting we heard about that earlier and to this Roman group and I was well

and to this Roman group and I was well

and to this Roman group and I was well received I was surprised they were they

received I was surprised they were they

received I was surprised they were they were interested to improve education for

were interested to improve education for

were interested to improve education for the families they were interested to do

the families they were interested to do

the families they were interested to do things to grab the brass ring so to

things to grab the brass ring so to

things to grab the brass ring so to speak and I went away kind of feeling

speak and I went away kind of feeling

speak and I went away kind of feeling connected that I might have a purpose if

connected that I might have a purpose if

connected that I might have a purpose if I came to Sarajevo I end up coming

I came to Sarajevo I end up coming

I came to Sarajevo I end up coming sooner than I thought I came its temper

sooner than I thought I came its temper

sooner than I thought I came its temper of 2008 and you know I was at first just

of 2008 and you know I was at first just

of 2008 and you know I was at first just overwhelmed of course by the culture and

overwhelmed of course by the culture and

overwhelmed of course by the culture and my language barrier and different things

my language barrier and different things

my language barrier and different things that I had problems just trying to

that I had problems just trying to

that I had problems just trying to adjust but I was really impressed to see

adjust but I was really impressed to see

adjust but I was really impressed to see different positive aspects of the Roman

different positive aspects of the Roman

different positive aspects of the Roman community I mean we all heard the

community I mean we all heard the

community I mean we all heard the negative aspects we all know that

negative aspects we all know that

negative aspects we all know that they’re collecting trash to stay alive

they’re collecting trash to stay alive

they’re collecting trash to stay alive there may be begging here or there we

there may be begging here or there we

there may be begging here or there we call panhandling in America bothering

call panhandling in America bothering

call panhandling in America bothering somebody here there but what I started

somebody here there but what I started

somebody here there but what I started to do was to serve the Roma and that’s

to do was to serve the Roma and that’s

to do was to serve the Roma and that’s kind of the point one of my messages my

kind of the point one of my messages my

kind of the point one of my messages my main message tonight is when you serve

main message tonight is when you serve

main message tonight is when you serve someone you learn about yourself you

someone you learn about yourself you

someone you learn about yourself you know and I overcame this prejudice i had

know and I overcame this prejudice i had

know and I overcame this prejudice i had about panhandlers i used to really like

about panhandlers i used to really like

about panhandlers i used to really like wonder about these people who were

wonder about these people who were

wonder about these people who were begging my sure would do that well

begging my sure would do that well

begging my sure would do that well if you had a choice this deal or to beg

if you had a choice this deal or to beg

if you had a choice this deal or to beg what would you do well maybe you would

what would you do well maybe you would

what would you do well maybe you would choose to steal but maybe you would

choose to steal but maybe you would

choose to steal but maybe you would choose the bank and maybe I shouldn’t

choose the bank and maybe I shouldn’t

choose the bank and maybe I shouldn’t look down on beggars who are taking like

look down on beggars who are taking like

look down on beggars who are taking like a maybe ethical way out of this dilemma

a maybe ethical way out of this dilemma

a maybe ethical way out of this dilemma economic dilemma they had and I started

economic dilemma they had and I started

economic dilemma they had and I started to understand their mm I didn’t I wasn’t

to understand their mm I didn’t I wasn’t

to understand their mm I didn’t I wasn’t showering them with money I didn’t

showering them with money I didn’t

showering them with money I didn’t really give money I took up the meals

really give money I took up the meals

really give money I took up the meals and and try to get into a conversation

and and try to get into a conversation

and and try to get into a conversation with them and that’s another point on me

with them and that’s another point on me

with them and that’s another point on me later trying to figure out were they

later trying to figure out were they

later trying to figure out were they willing to make the sacrifices and do

willing to make the sacrifices and do

willing to make the sacrifices and do what it takes for the next generation

what it takes for the next generation

what it takes for the next generation for their children were they willing to

for their children were they willing to

for their children were they willing to make some sacrifices like my mother or

make some sacrifices like my mother or

make some sacrifices like my mother or my father had made to get me to a good

my father had made to get me to a good

my father had made to get me to a good high school and get me to college really

high school and get me to college really

high school and get me to college really willing to take her children the way it

willing to take her children the way it

willing to take her children the way it is here in Bosnian to school every

is here in Bosnian to school every

is here in Bosnian to school every single day and were they able to help

single day and were they able to help

single day and were they able to help their children or find an after-school

their children or find an after-school

their children or find an after-school homework program or find some program to

homework program or find some program to

homework program or find some program to help them really stay in school what I

help them really stay in school what I

help them really stay in school what I really felt attractive by mine this is

really felt attractive by mine this is

really felt attractive by mine this is picture my daughter was the little

picture my daughter was the little

picture my daughter was the little non-related middle there and me out on

non-related middle there and me out on

non-related middle there and me out on one of these suburbs or serving

one of these suburbs or serving

one of these suburbs or serving opportunities but what I was really

opportunities but what I was really

opportunities but what I was really excited about it was telling about this

excited about it was telling about this

excited about it was telling about this project we started with preschool my

project we started with preschool my

project we started with preschool my wife had this idea to start a preschool

wife had this idea to start a preschool

wife had this idea to start a preschool called devil engine chevere or God’s

called devil engine chevere or God’s

called devil engine chevere or God’s kids and to really really just the poor

kids and to really really just the poor

kids and to really really just the poor love and the kids she got like a dream

love and the kids she got like a dream

love and the kids she got like a dream that said hey if you can affect the

that said hey if you can affect the

that said hey if you can affect the first generate the early generation you

first generate the early generation you

first generate the early generation you can affect the whole people group and we

can affect the whole people group and we

can affect the whole people group and we at first we weren’t sure what to do with

at first we weren’t sure what to do with

at first we weren’t sure what to do with this how should we start this and she

this how should we start this and she

this how should we start this and she started a mother child group and they

started a mother child group and they

started a mother child group and they got a mother’s needle sharing best

got a mother’s needle sharing best

got a mother’s needle sharing best practices and supporting each other and

practices and supporting each other and

practices and supporting each other and then the group grew and and then pretty

then the group grew and and then pretty

then the group grew and and then pretty soon you had like 20 kids meeting at the

soon you had like 20 kids meeting at the

soon you had like 20 kids meeting at the a rented office space or apartment and

a rented office space or apartment and

a rented office space or apartment and every week and we started to get the

every week and we started to get the

every week and we started to get the formation of a potential for a preschool

formation of a potential for a preschool

formation of a potential for a preschool preschool takes three things it takes

preschool takes three things it takes

preschool takes three things it takes the students the kids a place that’s

the students the kids a place that’s

the students the kids a place that’s kind of suitable and safe and also take

kind of suitable and safe and also take

kind of suitable and safe and also take the workers that really have a heart for

the workers that really have a heart for

the workers that really have a heart for jewelry and so we had the place we had

jewelry and so we had the place we had

jewelry and so we had the place we had the children and now we needed a key

the children and now we needed a key

the children and now we needed a key component which is workers and so my

component which is workers and so my

component which is workers and so my wife went about creating a she had gone

wife went about creating a she had gone

wife went about creating a she had gone to school United States that’s how we

to school United States that’s how we

to school United States that’s how we met she was there getting her preschool

met she was there getting her preschool

met she was there getting her preschool degree in taught preschool for a year

degree in taught preschool for a year

degree in taught preschool for a year and a half in inner city area in San

and a half in inner city area in San

and a half in inner city area in San Francisco near San Francisco and so she

Francisco near San Francisco and so she

Francisco near San Francisco and so she had some experience with the curriculum

had some experience with the curriculum

had some experience with the curriculum ssin with the early childhood education

ssin with the early childhood education

ssin with the early childhood education and she started to put a training

and she started to put a training

and she started to put a training program together for some roma that were

program together for some roma that were

program together for some roma that were interested to work at the preschool and

interested to work at the preschool and

interested to work at the preschool and so it was really great that we had the

so it was really great that we had the

so it was really great that we had the ability to receive over a three-year

ability to receive over a three-year

ability to receive over a three-year period about 18 kids in total 15 who

period about 18 kids in total 15 who

period about 18 kids in total 15 who regularly attended the program with

regularly attended the program with

regularly attended the program with about eight kids who ended up going on

about eight kids who ended up going on

about eight kids who ended up going on and are still at school today and what

and are still at school today and what

and are still at school today and what was really mean of course there are lots

was really mean of course there are lots

was really mean of course there are lots of ups and downs and lots of things

of ups and downs and lots of things

of ups and downs and lots of things happening but really it was about

happening but really it was about

happening but really it was about preparing those kids and those families

preparing those kids and those families

preparing those kids and those families for the daily grind of getting your kid

for the daily grind of getting your kid

for the daily grind of getting your kid to school I mean I don’t care enough

to school I mean I don’t care enough

to school I mean I don’t care enough three kids and it’s not it’s not all

three kids and it’s not it’s not all

three kids and it’s not it’s not all it’s cracked up to be you really have to

it’s cracked up to be you really have to

it’s cracked up to be you really have to motivate your kids to go to school you

motivate your kids to go to school you

motivate your kids to go to school you really have to get there on time you all

really have to get there on time you all

really have to get there on time you all these things you have to do and if

these things you have to do and if

these things you have to do and if you’re not that was in your upbringing

you’re not that was in your upbringing

you’re not that was in your upbringing you don’t really have the tools or the

you don’t really have the tools or the

you don’t really have the tools or the motivation for them so it’s very

motivation for them so it’s very

motivation for them so it’s very interesting to see that we found a small

interesting to see that we found a small

interesting to see that we found a small percentage of Roman

percentage of Roman

percentage of Roman was interested in that and got them

was interested in that and got them

was interested in that and got them motivated in and the kids were coming

motivated in and the kids were coming

motivated in and the kids were coming into the curriculum the curriculum was

into the curriculum the curriculum was

into the curriculum the curriculum was just mostly fun activities the main

just mostly fun activities the main

just mostly fun activities the main attraction was the warm meal and of

attraction was the warm meal and of

attraction was the warm meal and of course getting on a regular schedule

course getting on a regular schedule

course getting on a regular schedule learning grooming habits learning all

learning grooming habits learning all

learning grooming habits learning all kinds of things about timing and clocks

kinds of things about timing and clocks

kinds of things about timing and clocks and and all the things that we’re all

and and all the things that we’re all

and and all the things that we’re all raised with their normal for us but

raised with their normal for us but

raised with their normal for us but Barone it’s not it’s it I have a very

Barone it’s not it’s it I have a very

Barone it’s not it’s it I have a very special and complimentary turned called

special and complimentary turned called

special and complimentary turned called Roma Bremen and everything happens when

Roma Bremen and everything happens when

Roma Bremen and everything happens when it happens it doesn’t happen on a

it happens it doesn’t happen on a

it happens it doesn’t happen on a specific time schedule but they have a

specific time schedule but they have a

specific time schedule but they have a piece for that there’s a piece that

piece for that there’s a piece that

piece for that there’s a piece that comes with that and I learned a lot from

comes with that and I learned a lot from

comes with that and I learned a lot from the Roman I learned by serving I was

the Roman I learned by serving I was

the Roman I learned by serving I was serving aroma and I was learning about

serving aroma and I was learning about

serving aroma and I was learning about myself a real big benefit that we didn’t

myself a real big benefit that we didn’t

myself a real big benefit that we didn’t understand was the three Roma workers

understand was the three Roma workers

understand was the three Roma workers that were working on our preschool did

that were working on our preschool did

that were working on our preschool did we heart and trade romo workers in it we

we heart and trade romo workers in it we

we heart and trade romo workers in it we saw them develop they gain skills they

saw them develop they gain skills they

saw them develop they gain skills they started having job offers outside of the

started having job offers outside of the

started having job offers outside of the school they were happy giving back to

school they were happy giving back to

school they were happy giving back to their community they’re interested in a

their community they’re interested in a

their community they’re interested in a development of the children and you know

development of the children and you know

development of the children and you know they gain valuable experience in terms

they gain valuable experience in terms

they gain valuable experience in terms of what I did of course I was just the

of what I did of course I was just the

of what I did of course I was just the partner tagged along about Sarajevo my

partner tagged along about Sarajevo my

partner tagged along about Sarajevo my wife’s dream but I was the administrator

wife’s dream but I was the administrator

wife’s dream but I was the administrator of the NGO I was make sure the boys got

of the NGO I was make sure the boys got

of the NGO I was make sure the boys got paid on time I was going to the

paid on time I was going to the

paid on time I was going to the accountant filing the papers making sure

accountant filing the papers making sure

accountant filing the papers making sure everything was about was above board or

everything was about was above board or

everything was about was above board or on the NGO and signing the contracts

on the NGO and signing the contracts

on the NGO and signing the contracts with the employees and thinking about

with the employees and thinking about

with the employees and thinking about things and talking with my wife about

things and talking with my wife about

things and talking with my wife about leadership I’ll leadership issues in the

leadership I’ll leadership issues in the

leadership I’ll leadership issues in the preschool it’s a lot it was a lot about

preschool it’s a lot it was a lot about

preschool it’s a lot it was a lot about just going the extra mile to make those

just going the extra mile to make those

just going the extra mile to make those employees feel really appreciate it and

employees feel really appreciate it and

employees feel really appreciate it and when ice was serving others I learned a

when ice was serving others I learned a

when ice was serving others I learned a lot about myself I learned how hard it

lot about myself I learned how hard it

lot about myself I learned how hard it is to maintain a preschool after about

is to maintain a preschool after about

is to maintain a preschool after about three years our to preschool leaders had

three years our to preschool leaders had

three years our to preschool leaders had more kids my wife had their third child

more kids my wife had their third child

more kids my wife had their third child and the other

and the other

and the other teacher had her third child and we were

teacher had her third child and we were

teacher had her third child and we were missing one component that we needed at

missing one component that we needed at

missing one component that we needed at the preschool which was the workers we

the preschool which was the workers we

the preschool which was the workers we have a final graduation party I think we

have a final graduation party I think we

have a final graduation party I think we have two or three graduation parties are

have two or three graduation parties are

have two or three graduation parties are their barbecues and we ended up just

their barbecues and we ended up just

their barbecues and we ended up just putting the curriculum on the shelf and

putting the curriculum on the shelf and

putting the curriculum on the shelf and we’re waiting now for our next

we’re waiting now for our next

we’re waiting now for our next opportunity to reopen the preschool the

opportunity to reopen the preschool the

opportunity to reopen the preschool the other so I think really what alcohol

other so I think really what alcohol

other so I think really what alcohol that I learned was we touched the

that I learned was we touched the

that I learned was we touched the parents a lot we this the kids that I

parents a lot we this the kids that I

parents a lot we this the kids that I mean in terms of our commitment to their

mean in terms of our commitment to their

mean in terms of our commitment to their children trying to pour into them we had

children trying to pour into them we had

children trying to pour into them we had some quotes from Bosnians like I didn’t

some quotes from Bosnians like I didn’t

some quotes from Bosnians like I didn’t recognize that kid before now I know who

recognize that kid before now I know who

recognize that kid before now I know who he is and he’s well behaved and lots of

he is and he’s well behaved and lots of

he is and he’s well behaved and lots of interesting feedback and I meant it a

interesting feedback and I meant it a

interesting feedback and I meant it a really fun new friend I have this friend

really fun new friend I have this friend

really fun new friend I have this friend his name jazz me he was one of the co

his name jazz me he was one of the co

his name jazz me he was one of the co teachers and here’s the picture of some

teachers and here’s the picture of some

teachers and here’s the picture of some pictures of the preschool they’re a

pictures of the preschool they’re a

pictures of the preschool they’re a little dark seas hard to see but it’s

little dark seas hard to see but it’s

little dark seas hard to see but it’s like a typical preschool kids doing lots

like a typical preschool kids doing lots

like a typical preschool kids doing lots of arts and crafts and stuff and my

of arts and crafts and stuff and my

of arts and crafts and stuff and my daughter’s in the picture there of

daughter’s in the picture there of

daughter’s in the picture there of course she was going to the preschool

course she was going to the preschool

course she was going to the preschool she’s now eight but here’s my friend yes

she’s now eight but here’s my friend yes

she’s now eight but here’s my friend yes me he told me I could use this Facebook

me he told me I could use this Facebook

me he told me I could use this Facebook page photo and I want to tell you a

page photo and I want to tell you a

page photo and I want to tell you a little bit about it because I’m proud to

little bit about it because I’m proud to

little bit about it because I’m proud to call he asked me my friend what can I

call he asked me my friend what can I

call he asked me my friend what can I say about him he’s a child of the war

say about him he’s a child of the war

say about him he’s a child of the war you know he left Bosnian during the war

you know he left Bosnian during the war

you know he left Bosnian during the war with his parents they took him to

with his parents they took him to

with his parents they took him to Germany and his his uh to brother his

Germany and his his uh to brother his

Germany and his his uh to brother his brother and two sisters and you know he

brother and two sisters and you know he

brother and two sisters and you know he learned German he started playing soccer

learned German he started playing soccer

learned German he started playing soccer over there then the war ended and they

over there then the war ended and they

over there then the war ended and they came back of course when they came back

came back of course when they came back

came back of course when they came back somebody was in their house and to

somebody was in their house and to

somebody was in their house and to battle for their house get like some

battle for their house get like some

battle for their house get like some quarters get some people out of the

quarters get some people out of the

quarters get some people out of the house but while he grew up in Bosnia he

house but while he grew up in Bosnia he

house but while he grew up in Bosnia he was a talent soccer player and he got

was a talent soccer player and he got

was a talent soccer player and he got drafted into the sockers called gelio

drafted into the sockers called gelio

drafted into the sockers called gelio before he can make us great to view of

before he can make us great to view of

before he can make us great to view of course he injured himself but he decided

course he injured himself but he decided

course he injured himself but he decided to start college and he started

to start college and he started

to start college and he started University Syria with criminology and

University Syria with criminology and

University Syria with criminology and he’s right now I his last step writing

he’s right now I his last step writing

he’s right now I his last step writing his thesis he finishes the last test I

his thesis he finishes the last test I

his thesis he finishes the last test I think

think

think this semester and he’s just about he’s

this semester and he’s just about he’s

this semester and he’s just about he’s asking now how old oh what’s that how’s

asking now how old oh what’s that how’s

asking now how old oh what’s that how’s that look with the thesis he wrote some

that look with the thesis he wrote some

that look with the thesis he wrote some papers he wrote some things but he never

papers he wrote some things but he never

papers he wrote some things but he never wrote a big thesis on I’ve been coaching

wrote a big thesis on I’ve been coaching

wrote a big thesis on I’ve been coaching him from time to time or ask him what

him from time to time or ask him what

him from time to time or ask him what his motivation for his education is and

his motivation for his education is and

his motivation for his education is and I’ve been really impressed by his

I’ve been really impressed by his

I’ve been really impressed by his persistence to get through that I’m

persistence to get through that I’m

persistence to get through that I’m really hanging out with him a lot mostly

really hanging out with him a lot mostly

really hanging out with him a lot mostly because my wife and his wife her best

because my wife and his wife her best

because my wife and his wife her best friends and have a real interesting

friends and have a real interesting

friends and have a real interesting story about how actually we became for

story about how actually we became for

story about how actually we became for it we had some disagreements we raise

it we had some disagreements we raise

it we had some disagreements we raise our kids different our kids were always

our kids different our kids were always

our kids different our kids were always playing together one time I was we made

playing together one time I was we made

playing together one time I was we made it I ate dinner in his house once a week

it I ate dinner in his house once a week

it I ate dinner in his house once a week for three years in a row and one of

for three years in a row and one of

for three years in a row and one of those times his son picked up a toy gun

those times his son picked up a toy gun

those times his son picked up a toy gun pointed in my daughter’s face and I got

pointed in my daughter’s face and I got

pointed in my daughter’s face and I got really scared and I grabbed it of course

really scared and I grabbed it of course

really scared and I grabbed it of course nesting was right there it’s Roman we

nesting was right there it’s Roman we

nesting was right there it’s Roman we all know I mean we’re living in not such

all know I mean we’re living in not such

all know I mean we’re living in not such big places and everybody’s in the same

big places and everybody’s in the same

big places and everybody’s in the same room and I didn’t think of any anything

room and I didn’t think of any anything

room and I didn’t think of any anything of the incident I just reacting as a

of the incident I just reacting as a

of the incident I just reacting as a father would protecting his daughter and

father would protecting his daughter and

father would protecting his daughter and a couple days a couple weeks later he

a couple days a couple weeks later he

a couple days a couple weeks later he came up to me he said you know why

came up to me he said you know why

came up to me he said you know why didn’t you ask me about that why don’t

didn’t you ask me about that why don’t

didn’t you ask me about that why don’t you ask me about what my son was doing I

you ask me about what my son was doing I

you ask me about what my son was doing I could handle that instead of you and it

could handle that instead of you and it

could handle that instead of you and it seemed like we’re coming to a conversate

seemed like we’re coming to a conversate

seemed like we’re coming to a conversate confrontation and I you know I didn’t

confrontation and I you know I didn’t

confrontation and I you know I didn’t know what exactly do the blood circle

know what exactly do the blood circle

know what exactly do the blood circle raise up a little bit me and house kind

raise up a little bit me and house kind

raise up a little bit me and house kind of like I was just reacting to what your

of like I was just reacting to what your

of like I was just reacting to what your son did buddy I was defending my

son did buddy I was defending my

son did buddy I was defending my daughter and we’re going back forth a

daughter and we’re going back forth a

daughter and we’re going back forth a little bit a couple of times then I

little bit a couple of times then I

little bit a couple of times then I started to step back and get to the balc

started to step back and get to the balc

started to step back and get to the balc a little bit back and see what was going

a little bit back and see what was going

a little bit back and see what was going on in the situation I was there but my

on in the situation I was there but my

on in the situation I was there but my spirit was outside and seeing and I saw

spirit was outside and seeing and I saw

spirit was outside and seeing and I saw hey I was wrong he has an objection to

hey I was wrong he has an objection to

hey I was wrong he has an objection to how I handle situation I should just

how I handle situation I should just

how I handle situation I should just apologize and come down off my high

apologize and come down off my high

apologize and come down off my high horse that I know how better to deal

horse that I know how better to deal

horse that I know how better to deal with situation that he did

with situation that he did

with situation that he did I’m in his house I’m taking away from

I’m in his house I’m taking away from

I’m in his house I’m taking away from his dog I’m taking something away from

his dog I’m taking something away from

his dog I’m taking something away from his son and he’s right there I should

his son and he’s right there I should

his son and he’s right there I should have asked them I said yeah you’re right

have asked them I said yeah you’re right

have asked them I said yeah you’re right I should’ve asked you and in that moment

I should’ve asked you and in that moment

I should’ve asked you and in that moment the situation diffused and from that

the situation diffused and from that

the situation diffused and from that time on yes Ben and I became friends

time on yes Ben and I became friends

time on yes Ben and I became friends before that I don’t think yes mean could

before that I don’t think yes mean could

before that I don’t think yes mean could really communicate with me so well or we

really communicate with me so well or we

really communicate with me so well or we didn’t really have a relationship but

didn’t really have a relationship but

didn’t really have a relationship but after that or a relationship starting to

after that or a relationship starting to

after that or a relationship starting to grow and actually I was already

grow and actually I was already

grow and actually I was already listening a lot to him thinking a lot

listening a lot to him thinking a lot

listening a lot to him thinking a lot about things he had to say and but now

about things he had to say and but now

about things he had to say and but now he started to take some the input from

he started to take some the input from

he started to take some the input from me which was interesting and now we

me which was interesting and now we

me which was interesting and now we started to like build up our friendship

started to like build up our friendship

started to like build up our friendship and build up a relationship and that was

and build up a relationship and that was

and build up a relationship and that was really interesting for me I don’t know

really interesting for me I don’t know

really interesting for me I don’t know it might not be so familiar but as a

it might not be so familiar but as a

it might not be so familiar but as a foreigner in a foreign land it’s very

foreigner in a foreign land it’s very

foreigner in a foreign land it’s very hard to make close friends because most

hard to make close friends because most

hard to make close friends because most people think he’ll just be here for your

people think he’ll just be here for your

people think he’ll just be here for your two or three and you built what been

two or three and you built what been

two or three and you built what been here almost nine years now so maybe a

here almost nine years now so maybe a

here almost nine years now so maybe a little bit different but it was really

little bit different but it was really

little bit different but it was really great that to hear about to see ya seen

great that to hear about to see ya seen

great that to hear about to see ya seen in his growth and how his family’s been

in his growth and how his family’s been

in his growth and how his family’s been growing he’s got three kids and and see

growing he’s got three kids and and see

growing he’s got three kids and and see how he’s stewarding his family to see

how he’s stewarding his family to see

how he’s stewarding his family to see how he is with eating his family and to

how he is with eating his family and to

how he is with eating his family and to lurk and to see his commitment and

lurk and to see his commitment and

lurk and to see his commitment and persistence to pursue his education and

persistence to pursue his education and

persistence to pursue his education and change his family for the better for the

change his family for the better for the

change his family for the better for the future his son and my daughter in the

future his son and my daughter in the

future his son and my daughter in the same class in third grade here that in

same class in third grade here that in

same class in third grade here that in paid them and in this local schools and

paid them and in this local schools and

paid them and in this local schools and it’s really a benefit to have friends

it’s really a benefit to have friends

it’s really a benefit to have friends like that and so as I was working with

like that and so as I was working with

like that and so as I was working with Roma I learned something about myself

Roma I learned something about myself

Roma I learned something about myself and I grew and I’m really thankful that

and I grew and I’m really thankful that

and I grew and I’m really thankful that I really got involved and so what am I

I really got involved and so what am I

I really got involved and so what am I asking you to do today I’m gonna ask you

asking you to do today I’m gonna ask you

asking you to do today I’m gonna ask you to do something next time you might go

to do something next time you might go

to do something next time you might go by Romo who’s paying for something talks

by Romo who’s paying for something talks

by Romo who’s paying for something talks up for a second and talk to them find

up for a second and talk to them find

up for a second and talk to them find out their name figure out what’s going

out their name figure out what’s going

out their name figure out what’s going on in their life take them for a coffee

on in their life take them for a coffee

on in their life take them for a coffee or a meal see what they what’s happening

or a meal see what they what’s happening

or a meal see what they what’s happening for them

for them

for them if there’s any advice you can give them

if there’s any advice you can give them

if there’s any advice you can give them or there’s any encouragement you can

or there’s any encouragement you can

or there’s any encouragement you can give them maybe just maybe you’ll be

give them maybe just maybe you’ll be

give them maybe just maybe you’ll be able to have an impact on their life and

able to have an impact on their life and

able to have an impact on their life and maybe your act of kindness will

maybe your act of kindness will

maybe your act of kindness will encourage them in the next step of their

encourage them in the next step of their

encourage them in the next step of their life I think we’re all part of the same

life I think we’re all part of the same

life I think we’re all part of the same human family and if one part of us is

human family and if one part of us is

human family and if one part of us is struggling then it could in fact all of

struggling then it could in fact all of

struggling then it could in fact all of us so I think if we help others to be

us so I think if we help others to be

us so I think if we help others to be included and to get healthy and to grow

included and to get healthy and to grow

included and to get healthy and to grow it’ll be better for all of us in the end

it’ll be better for all of us in the end

it’ll be better for all of us in the end thanks very much

thanks very much

thanks very much [Applause]

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