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thank you very much we have in our life

thank you very much we have in our life and family the desire of changing

and family the desire of changing

and family the desire of changing sometimes the behavior of members of the

sometimes the behavior of members of the

sometimes the behavior of members of the family it’s not easy

family it’s not easy

family it’s not easy perhaps we between citizens that are

perhaps we between citizens that are

perhaps we between citizens that are virtually strangers persons that do not

virtually strangers persons that do not

virtually strangers persons that do not know each other sometimes we need to

know each other sometimes we need to

know each other sometimes we need to make agreements it’s not easy

make agreements it’s not easy

make agreements it’s not easy the best way of changing behavior is by

the best way of changing behavior is by

the best way of changing behavior is by talking but sometimes to talk is not

talking but sometimes to talk is not

talking but sometimes to talk is not enough I was director of the National

enough I was director of the National

enough I was director of the National University and I as authority I had to

University and I as authority I had to

University and I as authority I had to change some behavior of the students we

change some behavior of the students we

change some behavior of the students we had some for the difficulties for

had some for the difficulties for

had some for the difficulties for example in following the same written in

example in following the same written in

example in following the same written in different faculties for example people

different faculties for example people

different faculties for example people not obeying two invitations to make next

not obeying two invitations to make next

not obeying two invitations to make next week exam and one day Jerry had good

week exam and one day Jerry had good

week exam and one day Jerry had good relationship with these leaders but when

relationship with these leaders but when

relationship with these leaders but when they they invited me to a place like

they they invited me to a place like

they they invited me to a place like this meant the central of the torreon of

this meant the central of the torreon of

this meant the central of the torreon of the university and there were a lot of

the university and there were a lot of

the university and there were a lot of noise I expected that when I took the

noise I expected that when I took the

noise I expected that when I took the the word when I began to speak they will

the word when I began to speak they will

the word when I began to speak they will will shout that was my hope but I began

will shout that was my hope but I began

will shout that was my hope but I began to speak and shouting continues even

to speak and shouting continues even

to speak and shouting continues even increases I had from I said me to not

increases I had from I said me to not

increases I had from I said me to not tolerated that so I answer it in a way

tolerated that so I answer it in a way

tolerated that so I answer it in a way that you can see

that was my first political campaign it

that was my first political campaign it was not an intended one but it was

was not an intended one but it was

was not an intended one but it was incredible

incredible

incredible it was a eighty percent of people who

it was a eighty percent of people who

it was a eighty percent of people who wanted to vote for me so sometimes you

wanted to vote for me so sometimes you

wanted to vote for me so sometimes you have to take some risks I when I was

have to take some risks I when I was

have to take some risks I when I was elected mayor traffic police was very

elected mayor traffic police was very

elected mayor traffic police was very corrupted and very technically but

corrupted and very technically but

corrupted and very technically but prepare it so I took that idea of I

prepare it so I took that idea of I

prepare it so I took that idea of I control Assuan a team saying let’s mimes

control Assuan a team saying let’s mimes

control Assuan a team saying let’s mimes control traffic it in a small part of

control traffic it in a small part of

control traffic it in a small part of Malta and the day Journal is asking me

Malta and the day Journal is asking me

Malta and the day Journal is asking me will the mimes put Frank Hood fines and

will the mimes put Frank Hood fines and

will the mimes put Frank Hood fines and I I said no it’s impossible

I I said no it’s impossible

I I said no it’s impossible laws do not permit that mines take

laws do not permit that mines take

laws do not permit that mines take functions of policemen but he said then

functions of policemen but he said then

functions of policemen but he said then it will not work and that was a

it will not work and that was a

it will not work and that was a beautiful challenge I work it until it

beautiful challenge I work it until it

beautiful challenge I work it until it works now they are the symbol of code to

works now they are the symbol of code to

works now they are the symbol of code to us UN but we had not only problems

us UN but we had not only problems

us UN but we had not only problems authority to with citizens we had

authority to with citizens we had

authority to with citizens we had problems of conviviality between

problems of conviviality between

problems of conviviality between citizens between drivers for example so

citizens between drivers for example so

citizens between drivers for example so we invented a card citizens card about

we invented a card citizens card about

we invented a card citizens card about this size and we distributed 350,000

this size and we distributed 350,000

this size and we distributed 350,000 cards and we asked at people to to

cards and we asked at people to to

cards and we asked at people to to whistle well perhaps I can be accused of

whistle well perhaps I can be accused of

whistle well perhaps I can be accused of using very hetero Doc’s ways of

so Bobby but whatever issues is a way of

so Bobby but whatever issues is a way of saying that Bogota was ugly but we all

saying that Bogota was ugly but we all

saying that Bogota was ugly but we all know people that are ugly but are very

know people that are ugly but are very

know people that are ugly but are very empathic are very make you happy make

empathic are very make you happy make

empathic are very make you happy make you feel well so Bogota change it is

you feel well so Bogota change it is

you feel well so Bogota change it is short for before changing is hard work

short for before changing is hard work

short for before changing is hard work now it’s also beautiful but at the

now it’s also beautiful but at the

now it’s also beautiful but at the beginning it was ugly but for the

beginning it was ugly but for the

beginning it was ugly but for the t-shirt flirty these three spreads

without comments well what is

without comments well what is strangeness that I refugee ate myself I

strangeness that I refugee ate myself I

strangeness that I refugee ate myself I protected myself by going to make this

protected myself by going to make this

protected myself by going to make this photo in the door of a church so I’m

photo in the door of a church so I’m

photo in the door of a church so I’m duplicate aaalac it may not seem like

duplicate aaalac it may not seem like

duplicate aaalac it may not seem like that but but external I’ll live at the

that but but external I’ll live at the

that but but external I’ll live at the tractor moment we had big problems with

tractor moment we had big problems with

tractor moment we had big problems with water water shortage and the traditional

water water shortage and the traditional

water water shortage and the traditional way of managing it it was giving people

way of managing it it was giving people

way of managing it it was giving people for some hours water and then stopping

for some hours water and then stopping

for some hours water and then stopping it seemed to me that we should try to

it seemed to me that we should try to

it seemed to me that we should try to save water voluntary the first week the

save water voluntary the first week the

save water voluntary the first week the consumption of water became bigger so I

consumption of water became bigger so I

consumption of water became bigger so I was preparing myself to blame the

was preparing myself to blame the

was preparing myself to blame the citizens my team asked it 24 hours to

citizens my team asked it 24 hours to

citizens my team asked it 24 hours to make a research search why people work

make a research search why people work

make a research search why people work on something more water we discovered

on something more water we discovered

on something more water we discovered that even in our if some of our families

that even in our if some of our families

that even in our if some of our families of the team

of the team

of the team people were saving water in vessels for

people were saving water in vessels for

people were saving water in vessels for in any case because normally all the

in any case because normally all the

in any case because normally all the mayor’s begin said save the water and

mayor’s begin said save the water and

mayor’s begin said save the water and then as you didn’t save I closed for

then as you didn’t save I closed for

then as you didn’t save I closed for some hours so it was an exercise of

some hours so it was an exercise of

some hours so it was an exercise of autonomy it was it’s not as good as

autonomy it was it’s not as good as

autonomy it was it’s not as good as can’t

can’t

can’t what is illustration with

what is illustration with

what is illustration with but it gave the flavor of

but it gave the flavor of

but it gave the flavor of self-regulation but what they did was

self-regulation but what they did was

self-regulation but what they did was showing well sorry

showing well sorry

showing well sorry with the jet-set but well I was trying

with the jet-set but well I was trying

with the jet-set but well I was trying to make people think about water

to make people think about water

to make people think about water shortest the certain moment telephone

shortest the certain moment telephone

shortest the certain moment telephone instead of sounding babe babe it when

instead of sounding babe babe it when

instead of sounding babe babe it when occupied occupied telephone was ringing

occupied occupied telephone was ringing

occupied occupied telephone was ringing and chiquita voice was saying gracias

and chiquita voice was saying gracias

and chiquita voice was saying gracias por hora de agua

por hora de agua

por hora de agua Shakira made it a lot better than myself

Shakira made it a lot better than myself

Shakira made it a lot better than myself but later we had problems with income

but later we had problems with income

but later we had problems with income some of the city so we ask people to pay

some of the city so we ask people to pay

some of the city so we ask people to pay voluntary 10% more real estate tax we

voluntary 10% more real estate tax we

voluntary 10% more real estate tax we didn’t know how much result but we had

didn’t know how much result but we had

didn’t know how much result but we had not no other solution we were elected

not no other solution we were elected

not no other solution we were elected from rising taxes and concealment of the

from rising taxes and concealment of the

from rising taxes and concealment of the city were saying you promisor more taxes

city were saying you promisor more taxes

city were saying you promisor more taxes but we promised it not allowing you to

but we promised it not allowing you to

but we promised it not allowing you to raise taxes and if there is no

raise taxes and if there is no

raise taxes and if there is no cooperation in that case we do not get

cooperation in that case we do not get

cooperation in that case we do not get taxes out approved so in the formula

taxes out approved so in the formula

taxes out approved so in the formula there was a line where the the wording

there was a line where the the wording

there was a line where the the wording was I said to pay voluntary 10% more

was I said to pay voluntary 10% more

was I said to pay voluntary 10% more taxes 63,000 families paid that’s that

taxes 63,000 families paid that’s that

taxes 63,000 families paid that’s that represents about 300,000 people yes well

represents about 300,000 people yes well

represents about 300,000 people yes well taxes are not very popular but I can try

yah-yah-yah you know that sing song we

yah-yah-yah you know that sing song we could say pagar para pagar some Mexican

could say pagar para pagar some Mexican

could say pagar para pagar some Mexican what we arrange it and we got to the

what we arrange it and we got to the

what we arrange it and we got to the places where people pay taxes and we

places where people pay taxes and we

places where people pay taxes and we made them a serenade

made them a serenade

made them a serenade generally we had a lot of media support

generally we had a lot of media support

generally we had a lot of media support because we did strange things here is

because we did strange things here is

because we did strange things here is Los Airways is the station of the new

Los Airways is the station of the new

Los Airways is the station of the new system of buses the city and the ten

system of buses the city and the ten

system of buses the city and the ten first persons who paid 10% more taxes

first persons who paid 10% more taxes

first persons who paid 10% more taxes they had their names put on the window

they had their names put on the window

they had their names put on the window of the station because the station is

of the station because the station is

of the station because the station is very close to a monument called los

very close to a monument called los

very close to a monument called los Airways so we were we had a link between

Airways so we were we had a link between

Airways so we were we had a link between the past heroes and the new kind of

the past heroes and the new kind of

the past heroes and the new kind of heroes the other problem was gun I hate

heroes the other problem was gun I hate

heroes the other problem was gun I hate guns if I can’t destroy I destroy them

guns if I can’t destroy I destroy them

guns if I can’t destroy I destroy them it’s one of the biggest pleasures in my

it’s one of the biggest pleasures in my

it’s one of the biggest pleasures in my life but it happened sometimes so

life but it happened sometimes so

life but it happened sometimes so publicly that the Army of Colombia

publicly that the Army of Colombia

publicly that the Army of Colombia claimed it that they had the monopoly of

claimed it that they had the monopoly of

claimed it that they had the monopoly of destruction of guns so one of my

destruction of guns so one of my

destruction of guns so one of my projects is invite military from many

projects is invite military from many

projects is invite military from many places in the world for making a sort of

places in the world for making a sort of

places in the world for making a sort of orgy destroying guns imagine a military

orgy destroying guns imagine a military

orgy destroying guns imagine a military exists exercising his right to destroy

exists exercising his right to destroy

exists exercising his right to destroy guns but we finally had cooperation with

guns but we finally had cooperation with

guns but we finally had cooperation with the church the church intermediated and

the church the church intermediated and

the church the church intermediated and here you can see a priest

here you can see a priest

here you can see a priest Here I am destroying a gun together with

Here I am destroying a gun together with

Here I am destroying a gun together with the cooperation of military and also

the cooperation of military and also

the cooperation of military and also with the cooperation of of Church Bible

with the cooperation of of Church Bible

with the cooperation of of Church Bible says that in some moment the metal that

says that in some moment the metal that

says that in some moment the metal that has helped to kill can be used for

has helped to kill can be used for

has helped to kill can be used for making people food now from one year to

making people food now from one year to

making people food now from one year to another year we had 500 less homicides

another year we had 500 less homicides

another year we had 500 less homicides in general we had two reductions of 30%

in general we had two reductions of 30%

in general we had two reductions of 30% in the two terms that I was but a

in the two terms that I was but a

in the two terms that I was but a certain moment for journalists

certain moment for journalists

certain moment for journalists this was routine all things can be can

this was routine all things can be can

this was routine all things can be can become part of a custom and no so when I

become part of a custom and no so when I

become part of a custom and no so when I felt this I asked it to priests that

felt this I asked it to priests that

felt this I asked it to priests that work it in my team to invite 500

work it in my team to invite 500

work it in my team to invite 500 youngsters and the youngsters got in the

youngsters and the youngsters got in the

youngsters and the youngsters got in the thumbs with their shoes with the shows

thumbs with their shoes with the shows

thumbs with their shoes with the shows out and there was the him – – joy of the

out and there was the him – – joy of the

out and there was the him – – joy of the hymn of joy the common the same musical

hymn of joy the common the same musical

hymn of joy the common the same musical piece that is the hymn of Rob Europe and

piece that is the hymn of Rob Europe and

piece that is the hymn of Rob Europe and at a certain sentence these youngsters

at a certain sentence these youngsters

at a certain sentence these youngsters seated at the front of their Tom’s for

seated at the front of their Tom’s for

seated at the front of their Tom’s for me it was the most close as we as humans

me it was the most close as we as humans

me it was the most close as we as humans can get to resurrection it was not a

can get to resurrection it was not a

can get to resurrection it was not a resurrection and my explanation was

resurrection and my explanation was

resurrection and my explanation was precisely we have to be very harsh

precisely we have to be very harsh

precisely we have to be very harsh against murders because they are not

against murders because they are not

against murders because they are not steps back you can be one that you can

steps back you can be one that you can

steps back you can be one that you can be kidnap it you follow to live and you

be kidnap it you follow to live and you

be kidnap it you follow to live and you can really operate what happened to you

can really operate what happened to you

can really operate what happened to you and you can finish your life saying

and you can finish your life saying

and you can finish your life saying something which sense but if you are

something which sense but if you are

something which sense but if you are killed

killed

killed you cannot put new chapters it’s cut

you cannot put new chapters it’s cut

you cannot put new chapters it’s cut it’s in so we have no right to stop

it’s in so we have no right to stop

it’s in so we have no right to stop other people like at a certain moment I

other people like at a certain moment I

other people like at a certain moment I was many said by the FARC about half of

was many said by the FARC about half of

was many said by the FARC about half of the mayors of Colombia were menacing I

the mayors of Colombia were menacing I

the mayors of Colombia were menacing I put a bulletproof jacket but when I put

put a bulletproof jacket but when I put

put a bulletproof jacket but when I put it under my shirts it was very hot very

it under my shirts it was very hot very

it under my shirts it was very hot very uncomfortable and the infill chamber was

uncomfortable and the infill chamber was

uncomfortable and the infill chamber was full of shame and irritation so I said I

full of shame and irritation so I said I

full of shame and irritation so I said I will wear this jacket outside and I open

will wear this jacket outside and I open

will wear this jacket outside and I open a hole in the form of

a hole in the form of

a hole in the form of of her and the American ambassador was

of her and the American ambassador was

of her and the American ambassador was toe touching me sometimes to verify that

toe touching me sometimes to verify that

toe touching me sometimes to verify that I didn’t have a hidden motive piece of

I didn’t have a hidden motive piece of

I didn’t have a hidden motive piece of metal

metal

metal he said put please okay

he said put please okay

he said put please okay but this was perhaps like the mooning a

but this was perhaps like the mooning a

but this was perhaps like the mooning a double sense it was in some sense a

double sense it was in some sense a

double sense it was in some sense a message of love and of confidence but it

message of love and of confidence but it

message of love and of confidence but it was also a sort of the Specht Aveo of

was also a sort of the Specht Aveo of

was also a sort of the Specht Aveo of looking I am Not Afraid I have the force

looking I am Not Afraid I have the force

looking I am Not Afraid I have the force of vulnerability you have to have good

of vulnerability you have to have good

of vulnerability you have to have good point idea good so we are here very

point idea good so we are here very

point idea good so we are here very close to my general proposition we are

close to my general proposition we are

close to my general proposition we are not only regulated by legal sanctions we

not only regulated by legal sanctions we

not only regulated by legal sanctions we are also regulated by feelings like

are also regulated by feelings like

are also regulated by feelings like guilt it is not only católica those two

guilt it is not only católica those two

guilt it is not only católica those two years we can write a lot about guilt and

years we can write a lot about guilt and

years we can write a lot about guilt and people even in other cultures have the

people even in other cultures have the

people even in other cultures have the some equivalent of guilt it’s a love

some equivalent of guilt it’s a love

some equivalent of guilt it’s a love feeling of insult destruction about

feeling of insult destruction about

feeling of insult destruction about yourself you feel you did something but

so at the beginning is so only two ways

so at the beginning is so only two ways of changing behaviors next I discovered

of changing behaviors next I discovered

of changing behaviors next I discovered the difference between guilt and shame

the difference between guilt and shame

the difference between guilt and shame the Western had to just think of chain

the Western had to just think of chain

the Western had to just think of chain but I discovered that sometimes people

but I discovered that sometimes people

but I discovered that sometimes people get very

hurted by shame is very cruel and

hurted by shame is very cruel and Gilligan an American expert had

Gilligan an American expert had

Gilligan an American expert had documented how many people are suffering

documented how many people are suffering

documented how many people are suffering from being ashamed and killing in the

from being ashamed and killing in the

from being ashamed and killing in the range that generates the shaming so

range that generates the shaming so

range that generates the shaming so which time we shame someone we have to

which time we shame someone we have to

which time we shame someone we have to find him a way back to the relation if I

find him a way back to the relation if I

find him a way back to the relation if I do this too much

do this too much

do this too much the person can say I know will not

the person can say I know will not

the person can say I know will not receive that that kind of signal from

receive that that kind of signal from

receive that that kind of signal from from you

from you

from you we have also social recognition we have

we have also social recognition we have

we have also social recognition we have also moral satisfaction you have also

also moral satisfaction you have also

also moral satisfaction you have also protection of rights so you have like a

protection of rights so you have like a

protection of rights so you have like a piano you can play with at least these

piano you can play with at least these

piano you can play with at least these six things so when there is a public

six things so when there is a public

six things so when there is a public policy that we want to make real I

policy that we want to make real I

policy that we want to make real I invite strongly that we look at the six

we look at the six possibilities there

we look at the six possibilities there are more this is a little bit simplified

are more this is a little bit simplified

are more this is a little bit simplified but it helped us a lot so we if you

but it helped us a lot so we if you

but it helped us a lot so we if you recognize good behavior as good behavior

recognize good behavior as good behavior

recognize good behavior as good behavior if you saw if you show that law protects

if you saw if you show that law protects

if you saw if you show that law protects right

right

right you can displace a little bit to desire

you can displace a little bit to desire

you can displace a little bit to desire to put to punish Nietzsche was showing

to put to punish Nietzsche was showing

to put to punish Nietzsche was showing that punishment is many times and indeed

that punishment is many times and indeed

that punishment is many times and indeed of the habit of the aggressor

of the habit of the aggressor

of the habit of the aggressor sorry so the main instrument we used in

sorry so the main instrument we used in

sorry so the main instrument we used in our actions was the distinction between

our actions was the distinction between

our actions was the distinction between low morale and cultures and some careful

low morale and cultures and some careful

low morale and cultures and some careful linking of them in Colombia if the world

linking of them in Colombia if the world

linking of them in Colombia if the world alope forbidden to kill ketotic

alope forbidden to kill ketotic

alope forbidden to kill ketotic tradition forbids to kill many people

tradition forbids to kill many people

tradition forbids to kill many people morale as people to do not kill but if

morale as people to do not kill but if

morale as people to do not kill but if one of the three systems like happens it

one of the three systems like happens it

one of the three systems like happens it happens till now for example I find my

happens till now for example I find my

happens till now for example I find my my woman with another man so instead of

my woman with another man so instead of

my woman with another man so instead of asking them to let me a place between

asking them to let me a place between

asking them to let me a place between them

them

them well I II go the machismo the Magister

well I II go the machismo the Magister

well I II go the machismo the Magister culture I go and I kill him until no no

culture I go and I kill him until no no

culture I go and I kill him until no no no four years there was a condition

no four years there was a condition

no four years there was a condition where this kind of murder was acceptable

where this kind of murder was acceptable

where this kind of murder was acceptable because of the feelings of the man okay

my wish I have the opportunity it’s it’s

my wish I have the opportunity it’s it’s very funny

very funny

very funny i I can ask something

i I can ask something

i I can ask something perhaps I can express the desire that

perhaps I can express the desire that

perhaps I can express the desire that some day just with honest talk we will

some day just with honest talk we will

some day just with honest talk we will solve all the problems and these things

solve all the problems and these things

solve all the problems and these things like making people feel guilt feel shame

like making people feel guilt feel shame

like making people feel guilt feel shame will be obsolete we can understand each

will be obsolete we can understand each

will be obsolete we can understand each other without fear or assault don’t know

other without fear or assault don’t know

other without fear or assault don’t know I’m tempted to tell a small story okay I

I’m tempted to tell a small story okay I

I’m tempted to tell a small story okay I do not is transgressing the rules so

do not is transgressing the rules so

do not is transgressing the rules so with very big pleasure I desired that we

with very big pleasure I desired that we

with very big pleasure I desired that we should solve the most problems by top

should solve the most problems by top

should solve the most problems by top which a talk

which a talk

which a talk [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

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