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I spent the past few weeks trying to

I spent the past few weeks trying to figure out what I was going to wear

figure out what I was going to wear

figure out what I was going to wear tonight I’ve always put a lot of time

tonight I’ve always put a lot of time

tonight I’ve always put a lot of time into my outfits whether it’s getting

into my outfits whether it’s getting

into my outfits whether it’s getting ready for date night with Jordan or back

ready for date night with Jordan or back

ready for date night with Jordan or back to middle school picture days I’ve

to middle school picture days I’ve

to middle school picture days I’ve always put a lot of pressure on my

always put a lot of pressure on my

always put a lot of pressure on my appearance I spent too much time in

appearance I spent too much time in

appearance I spent too much time in front of the mirror checking out my

front of the mirror checking out my

front of the mirror checking out my clothes changing my outfits and then

clothes changing my outfits and then

clothes changing my outfits and then throwing clothes on the floor

throwing clothes on the floor

throwing clothes on the floor I will pick them up later I can remember

I will pick them up later I can remember

I will pick them up later I can remember when I was 17 and I had the best pair of

when I was 17 and I had the best pair of

when I was 17 and I had the best pair of jeans maybe something you can relate you

jeans maybe something you can relate you

jeans maybe something you can relate you have or have had this great pair of

have or have had this great pair of

have or have had this great pair of jeans they’re your go-to and they make

jeans they’re your go-to and they make

jeans they’re your go-to and they make your butt look incredible and if you’re

your butt look incredible and if you’re

your butt look incredible and if you’re like me you owned them in three colors

like me you owned them in three colors

like me you owned them in three colors mine had one size on the tag and put a

mine had one size on the tag and put a

mine had one size on the tag and put a zip tie

zip tie

zip tie strung through the belt loops to help

strung through the belt loops to help

strung through the belt loops to help them stay on my body at this point I was

them stay on my body at this point I was

them stay on my body at this point I was eight years into my eating disorder now

eight years into my eating disorder now

eight years into my eating disorder now these particular jeans made me feel so

these particular jeans made me feel so

these particular jeans made me feel so good because I would use them as a way

good because I would use them as a way

good because I would use them as a way to show others how small my body was I

to show others how small my body was I

to show others how small my body was I would walk around and show off my DIY

would walk around and show off my DIY

would walk around and show off my DIY alteration and hope that they would say

alteration and hope that they would say

alteration and hope that they would say exactly what I wanted to hear or what my

exactly what I wanted to hear or what my

exactly what I wanted to hear or what my eating disorder wanted to hear how do

eating disorder wanted to hear how do

eating disorder wanted to hear how do you stay so thin you need to eat more to

you stay so thin you need to eat more to

you stay so thin you need to eat more to things you definitely don’t say to

things you definitely don’t say to

things you definitely don’t say to somebody with an eating disorder

somebody with an eating disorder

somebody with an eating disorder multiple times during my late teens and

multiple times during my late teens and

multiple times during my late teens and early 20s I had to uproot my life and

early 20s I had to uproot my life and

early 20s I had to uproot my life and spend months away from my friends my

spend months away from my friends my

spend months away from my friends my family

family

family schoolwork everything and spend months

schoolwork everything and spend months

schoolwork everything and spend months in residential and inpatient treatment

in residential and inpatient treatment

in residential and inpatient treatment facilities each time I went through

facilities each time I went through

facilities each time I went through treatment I left with a feeling of

treatment I left with a feeling of

treatment I left with a feeling of confidence knowing that I had worked

confidence knowing that I had worked

confidence knowing that I had worked really hard to make important changes in

really hard to make important changes in

really hard to make important changes in my lifestyle and that this is going to

my lifestyle and that this is going to

my lifestyle and that this is going to be the time that I can recover and yet I

be the time that I can recover and yet I

be the time that I can recover and yet I would find myself in the same place back

would find myself in the same place back

would find myself in the same place back at home day one of no longer having the

at home day one of no longer having the

at home day one of no longer having the security of a treatment center treatment

security of a treatment center treatment

security of a treatment center treatment team alone in my room I was alone

team alone in my room I was alone

team alone in my room I was alone staring at a closet full of clothes that

staring at a closet full of clothes that

staring at a closet full of clothes that no longer fit my body or my recovered

no longer fit my body or my recovered

no longer fit my body or my recovered lifestyle

lifestyle

lifestyle a few years into this cycle of treatment

a few years into this cycle of treatment

a few years into this cycle of treatment feeling confident slip spiral and then

feeling confident slip spiral and then

feeling confident slip spiral and then treatment again I had been convinced to

treatment again I had been convinced to

treatment again I had been convinced to throw away my scale my therapist knew

throw away my scale my therapist knew

throw away my scale my therapist knew that it was dangerous for me to have one

that it was dangerous for me to have one

that it was dangerous for me to have one at home but I had held on to a dress

at home but I had held on to a dress

at home but I had held on to a dress that would reveal my current weight I’m

that would reveal my current weight I’m

that would reveal my current weight I’m speaking with you now a few years into

speaking with you now a few years into

speaking with you now a few years into my recovery and I still have this dress

my recovery and I still have this dress

my recovery and I still have this dress that just goes to show you how much

that just goes to show you how much

that just goes to show you how much power a piece of material can hold over

power a piece of material can hold over

power a piece of material can hold over somebody while they’re struggling with

somebody while they’re struggling with

somebody while they’re struggling with an eating disorder I have no desire to

an eating disorder I have no desire to

an eating disorder I have no desire to fit into this dress but I could also

fit into this dress but I could also

fit into this dress but I could also never donate it I never want to put

never donate it I never want to put

never donate it I never want to put someone through the same pressure that I

someone through the same pressure that I

someone through the same pressure that I felt to buy it and manipulate her body

felt to buy it and manipulate her body

felt to buy it and manipulate her body to fit into it the way that I did each

to fit into it the way that I did each

to fit into it the way that I did each time I left treatment part of me knew

time I left treatment part of me knew

time I left treatment part of me knew that I should just box my box everything

that I should just box my box everything

that I should just box my box everything up and start my wardrobe over but I

up and start my wardrobe over but I

up and start my wardrobe over but I couldn’t afford to buy new clothes to

couldn’t afford to buy new clothes to

couldn’t afford to buy new clothes to replace the ones that were too small too

replace the ones that were too small too

replace the ones that were too small too big or have these negative associations

big or have these negative associations

big or have these negative associations attached to them I kept in used old

attached to them I kept in used old

attached to them I kept in used old clothes as a means of body checking or

clothes as a means of body checking or

clothes as a means of body checking or measuring and weight had been gained or

measuring and weight had been gained or

measuring and weight had been gained or not it’s not uncommon for clothes to be

not it’s not uncommon for clothes to be

not it’s not uncommon for clothes to be used in a way that feels the eating

used in a way that feels the eating

used in a way that feels the eating disorder especially if a person gauges

disorder especially if a person gauges

disorder especially if a person gauges their success by what size or clothes

their success by what size or clothes

their success by what size or clothes they may be able to fit into these sick

they may be able to fit into these sick

they may be able to fit into these sick clothes had a huge control over my

clothes had a huge control over my

clothes had a huge control over my ability to wake up and start my day

ability to wake up and start my day

ability to wake up and start my day experiences like those triggered me to

experiences like those triggered me to

experiences like those triggered me to further engage in my eating disorder as

further engage in my eating disorder as

further engage in my eating disorder as clothing often became an extension of

clothing often became an extension of

clothing often became an extension of something that I could control letting

something that I could control letting

something that I could control letting go of those clothes meant that I was

go of those clothes meant that I was

go of those clothes meant that I was choosing to move forward from my healthy

choosing to move forward from my healthy

choosing to move forward from my healthy self and defy my disorder I learned how

self and defy my disorder I learned how

self and defy my disorder I learned how to break the patterns and slowly saw

to break the patterns and slowly saw

to break the patterns and slowly saw glimpses of whatever covered life looks

glimpses of whatever covered life looks

glimpses of whatever covered life looks like one of the most powerful steps that

like one of the most powerful steps that

like one of the most powerful steps that you can take towards body acceptance is

you can take towards body acceptance is

you can take towards body acceptance is in towards body acceptance is to change

in towards body acceptance is to change

in towards body acceptance is to change your perspective with your wardrobe I

your perspective with your wardrobe I

your perspective with your wardrobe I found confidence in choosing how to

found confidence in choosing how to

found confidence in choosing how to dress and learning how to express myself

dress and learning how to express myself

dress and learning how to express myself in a personal way a person will go

in a personal way a person will go

in a personal way a person will go through intense psychological and

through intense psychological and

through intense psychological and physical changes when they’re in

physical changes when they’re in

physical changes when they’re in treatment for an eating disorder which

treatment for an eating disorder which

treatment for an eating disorder which can make it difficult to later return

can make it difficult to later return

can make it difficult to later return home to an environment that hasn’t

home to an environment that hasn’t

home to an environment that hasn’t necessarily changed with them we want to

necessarily changed with them we want to

necessarily changed with them we want to empower women in recovery from

empower women in recovery from

empower women in recovery from by providing them with new sizeless

by providing them with new sizeless

by providing them with new sizeless clothing for their healthy bodies and

clothing for their healthy bodies and

clothing for their healthy bodies and lifestyles and we want to do it for free

lifestyles and we want to do it for free

lifestyles and we want to do it for free so how do we pull something like that

so how do we pull something like that

so how do we pull something like that off on a large scale

off on a large scale

off on a large scale and who are we to even think that we can

and who are we to even think that we can

and who are we to even think that we can do that for about two years

do that for about two years

do that for about two years Erin and I had a lot of conversations

Erin and I had a lot of conversations

Erin and I had a lot of conversations about what the answers to those

about what the answers to those

about what the answers to those questions may be we decided that whether

questions may be we decided that whether

questions may be we decided that whether or not we actually know what we’re doing

or not we actually know what we’re doing

or not we actually know what we’re doing we need to help so we started by taking

we need to help so we started by taking

we need to help so we started by taking donations of new never worn clothing

donations of new never worn clothing

donations of new never worn clothing from generous retailers like American

from generous retailers like American

from generous retailers like American Eagle route 21 ModCloth airy and because

Eagle route 21 ModCloth airy and because

Eagle route 21 ModCloth airy and because sizes can vary drastically depending on

sizes can vary drastically depending on

sizes can vary drastically depending on the store or even within a brand we log

the store or even within a brand we log

the store or even within a brand we log accurate measurements of each item that

accurate measurements of each item that

accurate measurements of each item that we receive and then we take the sizing

we receive and then we take the sizing

we receive and then we take the sizing tags off of them we do this to eliminate

tags off of them we do this to eliminate

tags off of them we do this to eliminate the tag having any dictation over

the tag having any dictation over

the tag having any dictation over someone’s self-worth or success during

someone’s self-worth or success during

someone’s self-worth or success during these crucial stages in their recovery

these crucial stages in their recovery

these crucial stages in their recovery process we’ve developed relationships

process we’ve developed relationships

process we’ve developed relationships with treatment centers so that when a

with treatment centers so that when a

with treatment centers so that when a woman is at a point in her recovery

woman is at a point in her recovery

woman is at a point in her recovery process where she’s ready to give up her

process where she’s ready to give up her

process where she’s ready to give up her eating disorder and listen to her

eating disorder and listen to her

eating disorder and listen to her healthy self her team will help us learn

healthy self her team will help us learn

healthy self her team will help us learn more about who she is and what her needs

more about who she is and what her needs

more about who she is and what her needs will be with that personality style and

will be with that personality style and

will be with that personality style and measurement information we can then

measurement information we can then

measurement information we can then create a unique shopping site for each

create a unique shopping site for each

create a unique shopping site for each individual on this site she’ll see

individual on this site she’ll see

individual on this site she’ll see clothes from retailers that she’s

clothes from retailers that she’s

clothes from retailers that she’s familiar with and items that fit her

familiar with and items that fit her

familiar with and items that fit her lifestyle

lifestyle

lifestyle she can easily scroll through her

she can easily scroll through her

she can easily scroll through her private page and pick out what she likes

private page and pick out what she likes

private page and pick out what she likes wool box everything up and ship it right

wool box everything up and ship it right

wool box everything up and ship it right to her door anything she doesn’t feel

to her door anything she doesn’t feel

to her door anything she doesn’t feel grated or maybe she just changed her

grated or maybe she just changed her

grated or maybe she just changed her mind on she can put back in the box and

mind on she can put back in the box and

mind on she can put back in the box and send it back to us for free now we

send it back to us for free now we

send it back to us for free now we thought we were dreaming big when we

thought we were dreaming big when we

thought we were dreaming big when we decided we’ll start by serving the

decided we’ll start by serving the

decided we’ll start by serving the female population we thought it’s going

female population we thought it’s going

female population we thought it’s going to take years to build a reputation and

to take years to build a reputation and

to take years to build a reputation and for a new idea like this to gain any

for a new idea like this to gain any

for a new idea like this to gain any traction at all but since starting this

traction at all but since starting this

traction at all but since starting this project in February we’ve been

project in February we’ve been

project in February we’ve been overwhelmed by support and it’s a

overwhelmed by support and it’s a

overwhelmed by support and it’s a priority for us to be serving the male

priority for us to be serving the male

priority for us to be serving the male population that’s struggling as well

population that’s struggling as well

population that’s struggling as well there is no better alternative treatment

there is no better alternative treatment

there is no better alternative treatment centers know the importance of clothing

centers know the importance of clothing

centers know the importance of clothing and recovery but don’t have the time or

and recovery but don’t have the time or

and recovery but don’t have the time or resources to implement shopping into

resources to implement shopping into

resources to implement shopping into therapy sessions for example I have come

therapy sessions for example I have come

therapy sessions for example I have come to realize that potential

to realize that potential

to realize that potential that surrounded buying different clothes

that surrounded buying different clothes

that surrounded buying different clothes so I decided to pitch the idea of

so I decided to pitch the idea of

so I decided to pitch the idea of shopping with someone from my treatment

shopping with someone from my treatment

shopping with someone from my treatment team this wasn’t common but they pulled

team this wasn’t common but they pulled

team this wasn’t common but they pulled a lot of strings and were able to find a

a lot of strings and were able to find a

a lot of strings and were able to find a spare to ours and one of the therapists

spare to ours and one of the therapists

spare to ours and one of the therapists schedules as long as I paid for gas when

schedules as long as I paid for gas when

schedules as long as I paid for gas when you’re trying not to body check and

you’re trying not to body check and

you’re trying not to body check and there are glass doors and mirrors and

there are glass doors and mirrors and

there are glass doors and mirrors and your reflection is everywhere it was

your reflection is everywhere it was

your reflection is everywhere it was impossible to even get into a store

impossible to even get into a store

impossible to even get into a store without nitpicking my body in hmmm I

without nitpicking my body in hmmm I

without nitpicking my body in hmmm I would point to racks or things that I

would point to racks or things that I

would point to racks or things that I liked and she would pull the size that

liked and she would pull the size that

liked and she would pull the size that she thought I’d be I had to change with

she thought I’d be I had to change with

she thought I’d be I had to change with the door cracked so that she could make

the door cracked so that she could make

the door cracked so that she could make sure I wasn’t going to start body

sure I wasn’t going to start body

sure I wasn’t going to start body checking in the mirror I was a 24 year

checking in the mirror I was a 24 year

checking in the mirror I was a 24 year old girl changing with the door open

old girl changing with the door open

old girl changing with the door open while the therapist calmly tried to stop

while the therapist calmly tried to stop

while the therapist calmly tried to stop my tears because the skirt was too small

my tears because the skirt was too small

my tears because the skirt was too small everybody was staring when I attempted

everybody was staring when I attempted

everybody was staring when I attempted to peek at the size that I had on she

to peek at the size that I had on she

to peek at the size that I had on she immediately grabbed all the closes back

immediately grabbed all the closes back

immediately grabbed all the closes back from me and taught all the clothes back

from me and taught all the clothes back

from me and taught all the clothes back for me and tore the sizes out of each

for me and tore the sizes out of each

for me and tore the sizes out of each having worked retail for ten years I

having worked retail for ten years I

having worked retail for ten years I imagined the headache that we just

imagined the headache that we just

imagined the headache that we just created for all of those employees but

created for all of those employees but

created for all of those employees but my recovery was more important to her

my recovery was more important to her

my recovery was more important to her than honoring the hmm return policy even

than honoring the hmm return policy even

than honoring the hmm return policy even throughout all of that stress and

throughout all of that stress and

throughout all of that stress and inconvenience I was lucky because I had

inconvenience I was lucky because I had

inconvenience I was lucky because I had such a supportive treatment team most

such a supportive treatment team most

such a supportive treatment team most women don’t get an opportunity to cause

women don’t get an opportunity to cause

women don’t get an opportunity to cause a scene like that in a busy fitting room

a scene like that in a busy fitting room

a scene like that in a busy fitting room in the Aaron’s case she had to go across

in the Aaron’s case she had to go across

in the Aaron’s case she had to go across the country to find the kind of care

the country to find the kind of care

the country to find the kind of care that she needed with a lack of local

that she needed with a lack of local

that she needed with a lack of local resources even big cities like this it’s

resources even big cities like this it’s

resources even big cities like this it’s not uncommon for men and women to have

not uncommon for men and women to have

not uncommon for men and women to have to travel to find quality treatment

to travel to find quality treatment

to travel to find quality treatment typically patients are out of work the

typically patients are out of work the

typically patients are out of work the entire time they’re in treatment only

entire time they’re in treatment only

entire time they’re in treatment only magnifying the expensive being there and

magnifying the expensive being there and

magnifying the expensive being there and treatment is expensive according to the

treatment is expensive according to the

treatment is expensive according to the National Eating Disorder Association

National Eating Disorder Association

National Eating Disorder Association inpatient programs can cost up to

inpatient programs can cost up to

inpatient programs can cost up to $30,000 a month and outpatient programs

$30,000 a month and outpatient programs

$30,000 a month and outpatient programs don’t fall far behind insurance

don’t fall far behind insurance

don’t fall far behind insurance companies may cover your program at

companies may cover your program at

companies may cover your program at first but base your health on the

first but base your health on the

first but base your health on the absence of medical complications a lack

absence of medical complications a lack

absence of medical complications a lack of progress or even where you fall on

of progress or even where you fall on

of progress or even where you fall on the BMI chart ultimately this forces

the BMI chart ultimately this forces

the BMI chart ultimately this forces many patients to have to leave treatment

many patients to have to leave treatment

many patients to have to leave treatment early or find a way to pay the bills

early or find a way to pay the bills

early or find a way to pay the bills selves in an eating disorder it’s not

selves in an eating disorder it’s not

selves in an eating disorder it’s not uncommon to feel as though your identity

uncommon to feel as though your identity

uncommon to feel as though your identity is defined by a clothing size and sizes

is defined by a clothing size and sizes

is defined by a clothing size and sizes are often used as benchmarks by eating

are often used as benchmarks by eating

are often used as benchmarks by eating disorder standard eating disorders are

disorder standard eating disorders are

disorder standard eating disorders are also frequently accompanied by a

also frequently accompanied by a

also frequently accompanied by a negative body image ranging anywhere

negative body image ranging anywhere

negative body image ranging anywhere from general body dissatisfaction to

from general body dissatisfaction to

from general body dissatisfaction to total body image distortions and this

total body image distortions and this

total body image distortions and this cultural emphasis on clothing sizes and

cultural emphasis on clothing sizes and

cultural emphasis on clothing sizes and marketing of unrealistic body types can

marketing of unrealistic body types can

marketing of unrealistic body types can make it even harder as I spent my years

make it even harder as I spent my years

make it even harder as I spent my years in and out of treatment I accumulated

in and out of treatment I accumulated

in and out of treatment I accumulated many many boxes of clothes that ranged

many many boxes of clothes that ranged

many many boxes of clothes that ranged in sizes because my weight would change

in sizes because my weight would change

in sizes because my weight would change so often I had plenty of things to pick

so often I had plenty of things to pick

so often I had plenty of things to pick from but the size on the tag would tell

from but the size on the tag would tell

from but the size on the tag would tell me that I wasn’t good enough and that I

me that I wasn’t good enough and that I

me that I wasn’t good enough and that I was taking up too much space as I

was taking up too much space as I

was taking up too much space as I recovered I began to have a greater

recovered I began to have a greater

recovered I began to have a greater appreciation for my body and learn to

appreciation for my body and learn to

appreciation for my body and learn to accept the size I’m in now without

accept the size I’m in now without

accept the size I’m in now without letting that dictate my self-worth and

letting that dictate my self-worth and

letting that dictate my self-worth and even if the size on the tag on your

even if the size on the tag on your

even if the size on the tag on your clothes doesn’t cause you excessive

clothes doesn’t cause you excessive

clothes doesn’t cause you excessive anxiety

anxiety

anxiety everybody can certainly relate to the

everybody can certainly relate to the

everybody can certainly relate to the positives of having access to clothing

positives of having access to clothing

positives of having access to clothing that makes you feel great this isn’t

that makes you feel great this isn’t

that makes you feel great this isn’t just about eating disorders this is

just about eating disorders this is

just about eating disorders this is bigger than that this is about making

bigger than that this is about making

bigger than that this is about making people feel empowered and prepared and

people feel empowered and prepared and

people feel empowered and prepared and confident I want to use fashion to help

confident I want to use fashion to help

confident I want to use fashion to help others because fashion is where I found

others because fashion is where I found

others because fashion is where I found my confidence it does not matter what

my confidence it does not matter what

my confidence it does not matter what size my skirt is it only matters that I

size my skirt is it only matters that I

size my skirt is it only matters that I feel as capable and worthy and as

feel as capable and worthy and as

feel as capable and worthy and as amazing as I am in it thank you

amazing as I am in it thank you

amazing as I am in it thank you [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

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