
good afternoon everybody ten years ago almost to the date in New Bedford
almost to the date in New Bedford
almost to the date in New Bedford Massachusetts there was an immigration
Massachusetts there was an immigration
Massachusetts there was an immigration and customs enforcement gray on a
and customs enforcement gray on a
and customs enforcement gray on a factory in which approximately 350
factory in which approximately 350
factory in which approximately 350 immigrants were arrested now immigration
immigrants were arrested now immigration
immigrants were arrested now immigration and customs enforcement came to this
and customs enforcement came to this
and customs enforcement came to this this factory oddly enough they were if
this factory oddly enough they were if
this factory oddly enough they were if they were producing a jackets military
they were producing a jackets military
they were producing a jackets military jacket with people serving overseas they
jacket with people serving overseas they
jacket with people serving overseas they came in with helicopters dogs weapons of
came in with helicopters dogs weapons of
came in with helicopters dogs weapons of all Tigers and they arrested three
all Tigers and they arrested three
all Tigers and they arrested three hundred fifty men women and children at
hundred fifty men women and children at
hundred fifty men women and children at that time oh it’s three years out of Law
that time oh it’s three years out of Law
that time oh it’s three years out of Law School fresh out of law school and was
School fresh out of law school and was
School fresh out of law school and was working a great Boston Legal Services
working a great Boston Legal Services
working a great Boston Legal Services and we got a call that this rate had
and we got a call that this rate had
and we got a call that this rate had occurred our managing attorney was still
occurred our managing attorney was still
occurred our managing attorney was still the manager an attorney there nancy
the manager an attorney there nancy
the manager an attorney there nancy kelly started to put together a plan we
kelly started to put together a plan we
kelly started to put together a plan we needed to go in and interview these
needed to go in and interview these
needed to go in and interview these folks as quickly as possible so we
folks as quickly as possible so we
folks as quickly as possible so we figured out Nancy figured out that they
figured out Nancy figured out that they
figured out Nancy figured out that they were being many of them were being
were being many of them were being
were being many of them were being detained at a military base in Fort
detained at a military base in Fort
detained at a military base in Fort Devens Massachusetts which is it made of
Devens Massachusetts which is it made of
Devens Massachusetts which is it made of uh
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uh call say in English air in Spanish we
call say in English air in Spanish we
call say in English air in Spanish we say hi yet because they’re like
say hi yet because they’re like
say hi yet because they’re like yesterday like old-fashioned sort of
yesterday like old-fashioned sort of
yesterday like old-fashioned sort of technique to bring people
technique to bring people
technique to bring people detention and so we we organized to get
detention and so we we organized to get
detention and so we we organized to get down into the military base remember all
down into the military base remember all
down into the military base remember all types of hurdles it didn’t want to let
types of hurdles it didn’t want to let
types of hurdles it didn’t want to let us in they required us to submit names
us in they required us to submit names
us in they required us to submit names of the people that we were representing
of the people that we were representing
of the people that we were representing so we quickly got in touch with families
so we quickly got in touch with families
so we quickly got in touch with families and we got almost all the names of the
and we got almost all the names of the
and we got almost all the names of the people there and said we are the
people there and said we are the
people there and said we are the representatives of these these folks we
representatives of these these folks we
representatives of these these folks we get down to the military base and
get down to the military base and
get down to the military base and there’s an armed guard I was in a car
there’s an armed guard I was in a car
there’s an armed guard I was in a car with a few different people we had six
with a few different people we had six
with a few different people we had six or seven attorneys at the time but we
or seven attorneys at the time but we
or seven attorneys at the time but we got volunteers from all the different
got volunteers from all the different
got volunteers from all the different units to come up with us I was in a car
units to come up with us I was in a car
units to come up with us I was in a car and I was illegal was the lawyer was our
and I was illegal was the lawyer was our
and I was illegal was the lawyer was our other paralegals and secretaries go
other paralegals and secretaries go
other paralegals and secretaries go ahead we met with an armed guard at the
ahead we met with an armed guard at the
ahead we met with an armed guard at the gate and they said you gotta wait it was
gate and they said you gotta wait it was
gate and they said you gotta wait it was cold we were in a car and it was
cold we were in a car and it was
cold we were in a car and it was freezing cold and we were waiting
freezing cold and we were waiting
freezing cold and we were waiting outside of this room very militarized
suburb in Massachusetts is very surreal
suburb in Massachusetts is very surreal anyway so we get in night has fallen ten
anyway so we get in night has fallen ten
anyway so we get in night has fallen ten o’clock 11 o’clock at night
we can’t bring our car so they tell us
we can’t bring our car so they tell us to get him back in the back of one of
to get him back in the back of one of
to get him back in the back of one of those police wagons you know there’s a
those police wagons you know there’s a
those police wagons you know there’s a majority of a forever paddy wagon we had
majority of a forever paddy wagon we had
majority of a forever paddy wagon we had to get me back up that and go to another
to get me back up that and go to another
to get me back up that and go to another part of the base we get to the other
part of the base we get to the other
part of the base we get to the other part of the base they take us out of
part of the base they take us out of
part of the base they take us out of this wagon as they’re taking us out for
this wagon as they’re taking us out for
this wagon as they’re taking us out for taking some of the two teenies and we
taking some of the two teenies and we
taking some of the two teenies and we see that these guys are central american
see that these guys are central american
see that these guys are central american many of which are from one more
many of which are from one more
many of which are from one more indigenous folks many of them are
indigenous folks many of them are
indigenous folks many of them are indigenous if you know people from water
indigenous if you know people from water
indigenous if you know people from water mala Central America there’s slight
mala Central America there’s slight
mala Central America there’s slight stature very neat and they have them
stature very neat and they have them
stature very neat and they have them teen arm and arm like this and their
teen arm and arm like this and their
teen arm and arm like this and their legs are shackled and to pull it amount
legs are shackled and to pull it amount
legs are shackled and to pull it amount of a wagon somewhere to only wear it and
of a wagon somewhere to only wear it and
of a wagon somewhere to only wear it and if one person falls symbols of the whole
if one person falls symbols of the whole
if one person falls symbols of the whole line similarly watching this
line similarly watching this
line similarly watching this I almost couldn’t almost gonna watch I
force myself to watch if I had to watch
force myself to watch if I had to watch it because I felt as though I need to
it because I felt as though I need to
it because I felt as though I need to let those people know that there’s
let those people know that there’s
let those people know that there’s somebody witnessing this tragedy
walk into a sort of mess hall similar to
walk into a sort of mess hall similar to this but with barbed wire and
this but with barbed wire and
this but with barbed wire and floodlights although pet and they bring
floodlights although pet and they bring
floodlights although pet and they bring in and move the detainees back to the
in and move the detainees back to the
in and move the detainees back to the place and ways make us wait for another
place and ways make us wait for another
place and ways make us wait for another hour so we’re just waiting I know when
hour so we’re just waiting I know when
hour so we’re just waiting I know when they finally bring the detainees out
they finally bring the detainees out
they finally bring the detainees out gotta be around midnight tired look
gotta be around midnight tired look
gotta be around midnight tired look exhausted it looks like the heart is
exhausted it looks like the heart is
exhausted it looks like the heart is hard for them to stand up and they’re
hard for them to stand up and they’re
hard for them to stand up and they’re still standing in line presented as if
still standing in line presented as if
still standing in line presented as if we’re part of the problem the reason why
we’re part of the problem the reason why
we’re part of the problem the reason why you can’t go to sleep is because these
you can’t go to sleep is because these
you can’t go to sleep is because these attorneys want to talk to you and it was
attorneys want to talk to you and it was
attorneys want to talk to you and it was I just a little bit aside practicing now
I just a little bit aside practicing now
I just a little bit aside practicing now for about 14 years and we have a
for about 14 years and we have a
for about 14 years and we have a relationship with the ice
relationship with the ice
relationship with the ice we’re on different sides of the
arguments often times but we have a
arguments often times but we have a working relationship we respect them as
working relationship we respect them as
working relationship we respect them as people and they respect consequence or
people and they respect consequence or
people and they respect consequence or support but on this day that respect at
support but on this day that respect at
support but on this day that respect at least on the part of the ice attorneys
least on the part of the ice attorneys
least on the part of the ice attorneys went out the door they were treating us
went out the door they were treating us
went out the door they were treating us as if we were breaking a law as if we
as if we were breaking a law as if we
as if we were breaking a law as if we were somehow making things harder
were somehow making things harder
were somehow making things harder troublemakers I remember at one point I
troublemakers I remember at one point I
troublemakers I remember at one point I went up to a nice an attorney that that
went up to a nice an attorney that that
went up to a nice an attorney that that I had known that I respected they say
I had known that I respected they say
I had known that I respected they say sir we’d like to prioritize speaking
sir we’d like to prioritize speaking
sir we’d like to prioritize speaking with the children first so if you could
with the children first so if you could
with the children first so if you could bring the children out first we’d like
bring the children out first we’d like
bring the children out first we’d like to talk to those folks firms and he went
to talk to those folks firms and he went
to talk to those folks firms and he went and yelled at me saying we do not have
and yelled at me saying we do not have
and yelled at me saying we do not have any children in this facility louder
any children in this facility louder
any children in this facility louder than that more in fact they did we found
than that more in fact they did we found
than that more in fact they did we found children in their DCF Health Department
children in their DCF Health Department
children in their DCF Health Department children and families of those find
children and families of those find
children and families of those find children and you know we got them
children and you know we got them
children and you know we got them remedies Boyd one such person i’m open
remedies Boyd one such person i’m open
remedies Boyd one such person i’m open to wrap up for keys he’s a citizen now
to wrap up for keys he’s a citizen now
to wrap up for keys he’s a citizen now help me to wrap up the keys with him
help me to wrap up the keys with him
help me to wrap up the keys with him where he’s bringing his spouse from her
but that the change in the environment
but that the change in the environment that change in the way that we saw each
that change in the way that we saw each
that change in the way that we saw each other was part of this sort of
other was part of this sort of
other was part of this sort of militarization this reinforcement aspect
militarization this reinforcement aspect
militarization this reinforcement aspect of the immigration policy that existed
of the immigration policy that existed
of the immigration policy that existed at the time so this was during the bush
at the time so this was during the bush
at the time so this was during the bush the Bush era and what I could say about
the Bush era and what I could say about
the Bush era and what I could say about the difference then I suppose now push
the difference then I suppose now push
the difference then I suppose now push first took office the border was much
first took office the border was much
first took office the border was much more course people came in there was
more course people came in there was
more course people came in there was this catcher release policy and it’s
this catcher release policy and it’s
this catcher release policy and it’s really hard to get numbers
really hard to get numbers
really hard to get numbers many people you release this check
many people you release this check
many people you release this check around back in there was not nearly as
around back in there was not nearly as
around back in there was not nearly as much border enforcement as we have now
much border enforcement as we have now
much border enforcement as we have now have some numbers for you as well that
have some numbers for you as well that
have some numbers for you as well that goes something like 9800 2001 9800
goes something like 9800 2001 9800
goes something like 9800 2001 9800 border agents and then by 2009 we have
border agents and then by 2009 we have
border agents and then by 2009 we have 20,000 border agents so during the Bush
20,000 border agents so during the Bush
20,000 border agents so during the Bush administration you see you can see a lot
administration you see you can see a lot
administration you see you can see a lot more of this interior enforcement USC
more of this interior enforcement USC
more of this interior enforcement USC rounding up of folks like in New Bedford
rounding up of folks like in New Bedford
rounding up of folks like in New Bedford I saw a smaller scale sweeps here in
I saw a smaller scale sweeps here in
I saw a smaller scale sweeps here in Massachusetts and then tuck it
Massachusetts and then tuck it
Massachusetts and then tuck it Brazilians got picked up in framingham
there was some of the meat factories
there was some of the meat factories were rated in Iowa I believe so see a
were rated in Iowa I believe so see a
were rated in Iowa I believe so see a lot of a much more of a terior base
lot of a much more of a terior base
lot of a much more of a terior base enforcement and attention
yeah flip and when I could say in that
yeah flip and when I could say in that regard and the reason why it was so
regard and the reason why it was so
regard and the reason why it was so important for us to get in there is
important for us to get in there is
important for us to get in there is because even if you get arrested and
because even if you get arrested and
because even if you get arrested and detained you still have the right to go
detained you still have the right to go
detained you still have the right to go to a hearing and be heard on the merits
to a hearing and be heard on the merits
to a hearing and be heard on the merits of your case so we wanted to make sure
of your case so we wanted to make sure
of your case so we wanted to make sure all of these folks no matter where they
all of these folks no matter where they
all of these folks no matter where they were located had an attorney that could
were located had an attorney that could
were located had an attorney that could represent them in the event that there
represent them in the event that there
represent them in the event that there was some immigration remedy available to
was some immigration remedy available to
was some immigration remedy available to them so what did immigration do they
them so what did immigration do they
them so what did immigration do they took all of these people that were in
took all of these people that were in
took all of these people that were in Fort Devens and they transfer them to
Fort Devens and they transfer them to
Fort Devens and they transfer them to Texas a couple of days and I remember
Texas a couple of days and I remember
Texas a couple of days and I remember hearing the news that the folks that we
hearing the news that the folks that we
hearing the news that the folks that we had gone and interviewed and spent those
had gone and interviewed and spent those
had gone and interviewed and spent those hours getting their stories were taken
hours getting their stories were taken
hours getting their stories were taken and put in a state far away where they
and put in a state far away where they
and put in a state far away where they have no other resources and we were
have no other resources and we were
have no other resources and we were coming home gosh we’re just coming home
coming home gosh we’re just coming home
coming home gosh we’re just coming home crying into my pillow
crying into my pillow
crying into my pillow even to this day I’m not nervous like I
even to this day I’m not nervous like I
even to this day I’m not nervous like I still feel emotional about
still feel emotional about
still feel emotional about events part of that the emotion comes
events part of that the emotion comes
events part of that the emotion comes from I did a little research on on civil
from I did a little research on on civil
from I did a little research on on civil wars in Central America
pictured what it must have been
pictured what it must have been you
you
you tortured indigenous person tortured
tortured indigenous person tortured
tortured indigenous person tortured wat amala
during the watermelon Civil War two
during the watermelon Civil War two hundred thousand people were killed
hundred thousand people were killed
hundred thousand people were killed eighty-three percent of which were
eighty-three percent of which were
eighty-three percent of which were indigenous Mayans why this is not
indigenous Mayans why this is not
indigenous Mayans why this is not recognized as as a genocide globally I
recognized as as a genocide globally I
recognized as as a genocide globally I recognized it as a genocide I don’t know
recognized it as a genocide I don’t know
recognized it as a genocide I don’t know why we don’t have some rather dark
why we don’t have some rather dark
why we don’t have some rather dark remedy here in the united states that
remedy here in the united states that
remedy here in the united states that allows indigenous Mayans fleeing this
allows indigenous Mayans fleeing this
allows indigenous Mayans fleeing this genocide some refuge here I don’t know
genocide some refuge here I don’t know
genocide some refuge here I don’t know but I have that picture going into the
but I have that picture going into the
but I have that picture going into the detention center and I realized that
detention center and I realized that
detention center and I realized that what they were seeing here in
what they were seeing here in
what they were seeing here in Massachusetts very blue state liberal
Massachusetts very blue state liberal
Massachusetts very blue state liberal massachusetts was probably reminiscent
massachusetts was probably reminiscent
massachusetts was probably reminiscent of some of the detention situations they
of some of the detention situations they
of some of the detention situations they face
face
face and for that reason I felt my country
and for that reason I felt my country
and for that reason I felt my country had failed that there was a failure in
had failed that there was a failure in
had failed that there was a failure in system that there was something wrong
system that there was something wrong
system that there was something wrong was broken
I still feel that what we saw a in the
I still feel that what we saw a in the transition from the Bush era to the
transition from the Bush era to the
transition from the Bush era to the performant is we see a lot less of that
performant is we see a lot less of that
performant is we see a lot less of that interior enforcement and maybe Obama had
interior enforcement and maybe Obama had
interior enforcement and maybe Obama had a heart maybe you recognize some of the
a heart maybe you recognize some of the
a heart maybe you recognize some of the issues that immigrant in space because
issues that immigrant in space because
issues that immigrant in space because in fact his father’s interpret or maybe
in fact his father’s interpret or maybe
in fact his father’s interpret or maybe Obama was just lucky in that the border
Obama was just lucky in that the border
Obama was just lucky in that the border was now secure and everybody had been
was now secure and everybody had been
was now secure and everybody had been dealt with now what we see we see a
dealt with now what we see we see a
dealt with now what we see we see a border that is eighty percent secure
border that is eighty percent secure
border that is eighty percent secure bye-bye I statistics what I see in my
bye-bye I statistics what I see in my
bye-bye I statistics what I see in my practice is I see people that are
practice is I see people that are
practice is I see people that are already in the system they’re already in
already in the system they’re already in
already in the system they’re already in the court system and fighting their case
there was an interesting article in New
there was an interesting article in New York Times concerning the security of
York Times concerning the security of
York Times concerning the security of the border comparions and people are
the border comparions and people are
the border comparions and people are or nearly impossible but comparing it to
or nearly impossible but comparing it to
or nearly impossible but comparing it to the Berlin Wall the Berlin Wall was
the Berlin Wall the Berlin Wall was
the Berlin Wall the Berlin Wall was ninety-five percent secure but we’re
ninety-five percent secure but we’re
ninety-five percent secure but we’re talking about 96 miles of border we got
talking about 96 miles of border we got
talking about 96 miles of border we got 2,000 miles of the mexican border that’s
2,000 miles of the mexican border that’s
2,000 miles of the mexican border that’s eighty percent secure i would call that
eighty percent secure i would call that
eighty percent secure i would call that pretty secure and i think obama road
pretty secure and i think obama road
pretty secure and i think obama road this time such that he he no longer
this time such that he he no longer
this time such that he he no longer focused on on the interior he had a new
focused on on the interior he had a new
focused on on the interior he had a new set of priorities he was going to
set of priorities he was going to
set of priorities he was going to prioritize criminal aliens aliens and
prioritize criminal aliens aliens and
prioritize criminal aliens aliens and and people with outstanding deportation
and people with outstanding deportation
and people with outstanding deportation orders and continue the security at the
orders and continue the security at the
orders and continue the security at the border but now and what i can say it
border but now and what i can say it
border but now and what i can say it regards to to bush and obama oddly
regards to to bush and obama oddly
regards to to bush and obama oddly enough there immigration policies are
enough there immigration policies are
enough there immigration policies are very similar the idea being that if you
very similar the idea being that if you
very similar the idea being that if you start with enforcement then maybe after
start with enforcement then maybe after
start with enforcement then maybe after we’re secure we secure that border then
we’re secure we secure that border then
we’re secure we secure that border then maybe we can then start talking about
maybe we can then start talking about
maybe we can then start talking about comprehensive immigration reform so
comprehensive immigration reform so
comprehensive immigration reform so there was a little bit of that hope for
there was a little bit of that hope for
there was a little bit of that hope for the light at the end of the tunnel and i
the light at the end of the tunnel and i
the light at the end of the tunnel and i think democrats and republicans went
think democrats and republicans went
think democrats and republicans went along with this idea okay let’s secure
along with this idea okay let’s secure
along with this idea okay let’s secure the border and then and then
so what I think this is my opinion is
so what I think this is my opinion is that Obama began getting frustrated fact
that Obama began getting frustrated fact
that Obama began getting frustrated fact that he’s fluent reporter and we didn’t
that he’s fluent reporter and we didn’t
that he’s fluent reporter and we didn’t get the duration reform 2010 we see a
get the duration reform 2010 we see a
get the duration reform 2010 we see a bipartisan bill that’s all over that
bipartisan bill that’s all over that
bipartisan bill that’s all over that that that has majority support it didn’t
that that has majority support it didn’t
that that has majority support it didn’t have enough support to pasco Buster
have enough support to pasco Buster
have enough support to pasco Buster Republicans health agenda
Republicans health agenda
Republicans health agenda with that frustration Obama moves to
with that frustration Obama moves to
with that frustration Obama moves to executive orders 2012 Obama by the
executive orders 2012 Obama by the
executive orders 2012 Obama by the pathway the so-called viewers in sign
pathway the so-called viewers in sign
pathway the so-called viewers in sign and elect the executive order called the
and elect the executive order called the
and elect the executive order called the deferred action for childhood arrivals
deferred action for childhood arrivals
deferred action for childhood arrivals from doc this was an effort to jumpstart
from doc this was an effort to jumpstart
from doc this was an effort to jumpstart the conversation once again to at least
the conversation once again to at least
the conversation once again to at least signing the dreamer villa or more
signing the dreamer villa or more
signing the dreamer villa or more inclusive comprehensive information
after that 2013 Mayo so called gang of
after that 2013 Mayo so called gang of eight for focus for Democrats with the
eight for focus for Democrats with the
eight for focus for Democrats with the bill passes the Senate and gets held up
Boehner didn’t want to bring it to a
Boehner didn’t want to bring it to a vote he is basically held hostage by a
vote he is basically held hostage by a
vote he is basically held hostage by a group of very extreme I wouldn’t even
group of very extreme I wouldn’t even
group of very extreme I wouldn’t even say conservative just an extreme group
say conservative just an extreme group
say conservative just an extreme group of the Republican Party that threatened
of the Republican Party that threatened
of the Republican Party that threatened to
to his speaker speakership harm if he
to his speaker speakership harm if he brought it to a book that many coal
brought it to a book that many coal
brought it to a book that many coal chamber so anyways what we have is
chamber so anyways what we have is
chamber so anyways what we have is comprehensive immigration reform stalled
comprehensive immigration reform stalled
comprehensive immigration reform stalled in the water and the enforcement
in the water and the enforcement
in the water and the enforcement continues the enforcement continues and
continues the enforcement continues and
continues the enforcement continues and yet whenever we never feel or we’re
yet whenever we never feel or we’re
yet whenever we never feel or we’re never getting messages that in fact we
never getting messages that in fact we
never getting messages that in fact we are secure with this clear import with
are secure with this clear import with
are secure with this clear import with this enforcement what we saw is we speak
this enforcement what we saw is we speak
this enforcement what we saw is we speak and to see a clear picture of who it was
and to see a clear picture of who it was
and to see a clear picture of who it was that was entering the United States and
that was entering the United States and
that was entering the United States and no matter what Trump tells you move the
no matter what Trump tells you move the
no matter what Trump tells you move the people that are coming into the United
people that are coming into the United
people that are coming into the United States with the numbers will show is we
States with the numbers will show is we
States with the numbers will show is we see an increase in unaccompanied minors
see an increase in unaccompanied minors
see an increase in unaccompanied minors these are children entering the United
these are children entering the United
these are children entering the United States without their parents and we see
States without their parents and we see
States without their parents and we see it increase in family units a lot of
it increase in family units a lot of
it increase in family units a lot of people are coming from Central America
people are coming from Central America
people are coming from Central America and actually was seen a shift from the
and actually was seen a shift from the
and actually was seen a shift from the majority of people
majority of people
majority of people from the northern triangle in Guatemala
from the northern triangle in Guatemala
from the northern triangle in Guatemala El Salvador’s and fewer Mexicans it
El Salvador’s and fewer Mexicans it
El Salvador’s and fewer Mexicans it shifted the population a lot more women
shifted the population a lot more women
shifted the population a lot more women a lot more children they’re not Mexican
a lot more children they’re not Mexican
a lot more children they’re not Mexican rapist that’s for sure they’re not
rapist that’s for sure they’re not
rapist that’s for sure they’re not radical Islamic terrorists that’s for
radical Islamic terrorists that’s for
radical Islamic terrorists that’s for sure they’re women in children in fact
sure they’re women in children in fact
sure they’re women in children in fact fleeing the same things that
six what we see in 2009 received 20,000
six what we see in 2009 received 20,000 miners between the United States by 2014
miners between the United States by 2014
miners between the United States by 2014 68,000 unaccompanied minor
similarly 2013 15 thousand family units
similarly 2013 15 thousand family units coming into the United States 2014 in
coming into the United States 2014 in
coming into the United States 2014 in their very next year seventy thousand
their very next year seventy thousand
their very next year seventy thousand family units to the United States at the
family units to the United States at the
family units to the United States at the same time we’re seeing a decrease in the
same time we’re seeing a decrease in the
same time we’re seeing a decrease in the number
that is all to say that border is secure
that is all to say that border is secure and these people that are in the United
and these people that are in the United
and these people that are in the United States expressing appear many times and
States expressing appear many times and
States expressing appear many times and endure and they’re not the type of books
endure and they’re not the type of books
endure and they’re not the type of books that you hear about being a threat to
that you hear about being a threat to
that you hear about being a threat to our security but what Trump is doing
our security but what Trump is doing
our security but what Trump is doing with his rhetoric about mexican teen
with his rhetoric about mexican teen
with his rhetoric about mexican teen murderers and rapists and radical
murderers and rapists and radical
murderers and rapists and radical Islamic terrorists is not only is he
Islamic terrorists is not only is he
Islamic terrorists is not only is he instilling fear but he’s he’s making the
instilling fear but he’s he’s making the
instilling fear but he’s he’s making the case for increased enforcement and in
case for increased enforcement and in
case for increased enforcement and in fact just this week with we hear him
fact just this week with we hear him
fact just this week with we hear him reiterate his need for 15,000 more
reiterate his need for 15,000 more
reiterate his need for 15,000 more border agents to secure this other
border agents to secure this other
border agents to secure this other border and of course we all heard about
border and of course we all heard about
border and of course we all heard about the wall
but what I would argue is that we tried
but what I would argue is that we tried enforcement Chloe policies for the last
enforcement Chloe policies for the last
enforcement Chloe policies for the last 40 years or so we can say really with
40 years or so we can say really with
40 years or so we can say really with the Reagan administration is when you
the Reagan administration is when you
the Reagan administration is when you get the need for a work permit and
get the need for a work permit and
get the need for a work permit and relatively modern issue but for the last
relatively modern issue but for the last
relatively modern issue but for the last four decades we’ve tried enforcement
four decades we’ve tried enforcement
four decades we’ve tried enforcement only causing the deterrent policies and
only causing the deterrent policies and
only causing the deterrent policies and it doesn’t work it’s inefficient not
it doesn’t work it’s inefficient not
it doesn’t work it’s inefficient not only is it inefficient it’s
only is it inefficient it’s
only is it inefficient it’s misunderstood by many people it’s
misunderstood by many people it’s
misunderstood by many people it’s misunderstood by by people a broth and
misunderstood by by people a broth and
misunderstood by by people a broth and it’s misunderstood by people in the
it’s misunderstood by people in the
it’s misunderstood by people in the united states people in the United
united states people in the United
united states people in the United States certainly don’t feel more secure
States certainly don’t feel more secure
States certainly don’t feel more secure because the border is more force and
people that are coming in feel a sense
people that are coming in feel a sense of instability having to have an
of instability having to have an
of instability having to have an immigration case pending or sometimes
immigration case pending or sometimes
immigration case pending or sometimes five years without knowing again whether
five years without knowing again whether
five years without knowing again whether or not they will be able to continue
or not they will be able to continue
or not they will be able to continue living with their family and continue
living with their family and continue
living with their family and continue study or continue working or whether
study or continue working or whether
study or continue working or whether they’ll be
they’ll be
they’ll be under them and be deported right away
classic example of a key of cases that I
classic example of a key of cases that I have now kids that have
have now kids that have
have now kids that have there are 15 years old in high school
there are 15 years old in high school
there are 15 years old in high school completed high school if you win the
completed high school if you win the
completed high school if you win the case by year if the case is a little bit
case by year if the case is a little bit
case by year if the case is a little bit more problematic could take it like a
more problematic could take it like a
more problematic could take it like a set of five years we’re talking about
set of five years we’re talking about
set of five years we’re talking about that that age group of 15 year old to a
that that age group of 15 year old to a
that that age group of 15 year old to a 20 year old a lot happens in that time
20 year old a lot happens in that time
20 year old a lot happens in that time you go to high school learning English
you go to high school learning English
you go to high school learning English you get to some job skills maybe or are
you get to some job skills maybe or are
you get to some job skills maybe or are you enter into a university
and if I bad if it in a half cases like
and if I bad if it in a half cases like that save at the end of that by appears
that save at the end of that by appears
that save at the end of that by appears you don’t know what it’s going to happen
you don’t know what it’s going to happen
you don’t know what it’s going to happen it’s not likely that you’re going to be
it’s not likely that you’re going to be
it’s not likely that you’re going to be able to focus such that you can reach
able to focus such that you can reach
able to focus such that you can reach your full potential and who does that
your full potential and who does that
your full potential and who does that really affect them that affects all of
really affect them that affects all of
really affect them that affects all of us we have the opportunity to take
us we have the opportunity to take
us we have the opportunity to take advantage of the potential of all of the
advantage of the potential of all of the
advantage of the potential of all of the people that we collaborated with in the
people that we collaborated with in the
people that we collaborated with in the United States but with this enforcement
United States but with this enforcement
United States but with this enforcement deterrent idea and policy we as a nation
deterrent idea and policy we as a nation
deterrent idea and policy we as a nation are unable to embrace populations we
are unable to embrace populations we
are unable to embrace populations we exist
what I think we need is we need a
what I think we need is we need a clearer path to citizenship we need to
clearer path to citizenship we need to
clearer path to citizenship we need to step away from the turn-based system and
step away from the turn-based system and
step away from the turn-based system and focus more on a reward based system or
focus more on a reward based system or
focus more on a reward based system or merit-based system that recognizes the
merit-based system that recognizes the
merit-based system that recognizes the need for not only a robust labor force
need for not only a robust labor force
need for not only a robust labor force but the diversity of thought and
but the diversity of thought and
but the diversity of thought and creative ideas that comes from
creative ideas that comes from
creative ideas that comes from collaborating
when I think back to what made me so sad
when I think back to what made me so sad why I would pry my pillow and I saw that
why I would pry my pillow and I saw that
why I would pry my pillow and I saw that bid for grade it wasn’t really me
bid for grade it wasn’t really me
bid for grade it wasn’t really me thinking politically about it wasn’t me
thinking politically about it wasn’t me
thinking politically about it wasn’t me thinking about I know it’s just a very
thinking about I know it’s just a very
thinking about I know it’s just a very inefficient system and also sad that our
inefficient system and also sad that our
inefficient system and also sad that our system is so efficient no it wasn’t that
system is so efficient no it wasn’t that
system is so efficient no it wasn’t that wasn’t that the humanity the inhumanity
wasn’t that the humanity the inhumanity
wasn’t that the humanity the inhumanity that experience that was it either he
that experience that was it either he
that experience that was it either he was part of it but really what made me
was part of it but really what made me
was part of it but really what made me sad was the idea that I was seeing the
sad was the idea that I was seeing the
sad was the idea that I was seeing the physical manifestation of policy that
physical manifestation of policy that
physical manifestation of policy that contradicts what I feel is at the core
contradicts what I feel is at the core
contradicts what I feel is at the core of our 248 year experiment that is
of our 248 year experiment that is
of our 248 year experiment that is America
be sure the founders of this country
be sure the founders of this country admitted reason when they decided to
admitted reason when they decided to
admitted reason when they decided to carve out a piece of land for themselves
carve out a piece of land for themselves
carve out a piece of land for themselves but they were also in a situation where
but they were also in a situation where
but they were also in a situation where they had to admit those treasonous acts
they had to admit those treasonous acts
they had to admit those treasonous acts and preserve the rule of law and how did
and preserve the rule of law and how did
and preserve the rule of law and how did they do that they justify it by with the
they do that they justify it by with the
they do that they justify it by with the thoughts of the Philosopher’s during the
thoughts of the Philosopher’s during the
thoughts of the Philosopher’s during the Enlightenment there are certain things
Enlightenment there are certain things
Enlightenment there are certain things that they said should it be taken away
that they said should it be taken away
that they said should it be taken away talked about natural rights god-given
talked about natural rights god-given
talked about natural rights god-given Runnings inalienable rights rights that
Runnings inalienable rights rights that
Runnings inalienable rights rights that cannot be taken away
they were building a nation that
they were building a nation that transcends the traditional notion of
transcends the traditional notion of
transcends the traditional notion of nation
to do that they needed people that were
to do that they needed people that were courageous enough to transcend both
courageous enough to transcend both
courageous enough to transcend both traditional groupings they needed people
traditional groupings they needed people
traditional groupings they needed people that move beyond race ethnicity nation
that move beyond race ethnicity nation
that move beyond race ethnicity nation religion they needed this because they
religion they needed this because they
religion they needed this because they knew that we needed a collaboration a
collaboration to seek something higher
collaboration to seek something higher the classic is the life liberally
the classic is the life liberally
the classic is the life liberally liberty and pursuit of happiness
they wanted to create a space and pursue
they wanted to create a space and pursue a common good
and in fact the Declaration of
and in fact the Declaration of Independence talks about I got to get
Independence talks about I got to get
Independence talks about I got to get the correct word I don’t miss read the
the correct word I don’t miss read the
the correct word I don’t miss read the decoration so they talked about repeated
decoration so they talked about repeated
decoration so they talked about repeated injuries and usurpations of the king and
injuries and usurpations of the king and
injuries and usurpations of the king and one of those repeated injuries is if so
one of those repeated injuries is if so
one of those repeated injuries is if so mated word for work he has endeavored to
mated word for work he has endeavored to
mated word for work he has endeavored to prevent the population of these states
prevent the population of these states
prevent the population of these states for that purpose obstructing the laws
for that purpose obstructing the laws
for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners
for naturalization of foreigners
for naturalization of foreigners refusing to pass others to encourage the
refusing to pass others to encourage the
refusing to pass others to encourage the migrations hither and raising the
migrations hither and raising the
migrations hither and raising the kitchen the conditions of new
kitchen the conditions of new
kitchen the conditions of new appropriations of land in the
appropriations of land in the
appropriations of land in the Declaration of Independence was this
Declaration of Independence was this
Declaration of Independence was this idea that we needed a population
idea that we needed a population
idea that we needed a population transcended the notion evasion
with that the American Dream is not just
with that the American Dream is not just the dream of an individual to do all
the dream of an individual to do all
the dream of an individual to do all that he can do to be the best in the
that he can do to be the best in the
that he can do to be the best in the American dream is a dream of our nation
American dream is a dream of our nation
American dream is a dream of our nation American Dream is the idea that has a
American Dream is the idea that has a
American Dream is the idea that has a nation with people that are courageous
nation with people that are courageous
nation with people that are courageous enough to collaborate with people
enough to collaborate with people
enough to collaborate with people different from them we can come together
different from them we can come together
different from them we can come together for the benefit
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