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Retirement – a false goal? | Carol Black | TEDxNewnham


retirement why are we stuck with the

retirement why are we stuck with the word retirement it’s a false goal if you

word retirement it’s a false goal if you

word retirement it’s a false goal if you look in the English Oxford Dictionary

look in the English Oxford Dictionary

look in the English Oxford Dictionary for the definition of retirement you’re

for the definition of retirement you’re

for the definition of retirement you’re told it’s rest rest in bed seclusion

told it’s rest rest in bed seclusion

told it’s rest rest in bed seclusion removal from action and danger and of

removal from action and danger and of

removal from action and danger and of course giving up your job or your

course giving up your job or your

course giving up your job or your professional activity

professional activity

professional activity well maybe six or seven years after

well maybe six or seven years after

well maybe six or seven years after retirement some 30 years ago you were

retirement some 30 years ago you were

retirement some 30 years ago you were dead but now we live 30 or 40 years

dead but now we live 30 or 40 years

dead but now we live 30 or 40 years after we retire is that going to be

after we retire is that going to be

after we retire is that going to be lying down is it going to be in

lying down is it going to be in

lying down is it going to be in seclusion somehow the word retirement is

seclusion somehow the word retirement is

seclusion somehow the word retirement is synonymous with I’ve done it I’m now

synonymous with I’ve done it I’m now

synonymous with I’ve done it I’m now going to rest

going to rest

going to rest I’m going to take a break but even worse

I’m going to take a break but even worse

I’m going to take a break but even worse it’s also thought that it’s good for our

it’s also thought that it’s good for our

it’s also thought that it’s good for our health well nothing could be further

health well nothing could be further

health well nothing could be further from the truth it is not good for our

from the truth it is not good for our

from the truth it is not good for our mental or our physical health I often

mental or our physical health I often

mental or our physical health I often get quite annoyed when people say to me

get quite annoyed when people say to me

get quite annoyed when people say to me I’m going to take the lift not the

I’m going to take the lift not the

I’m going to take the lift not the stairs because you know I’m getting old

stairs because you know I’m getting old

stairs because you know I’m getting old why can’t we have a new name why can’t

why can’t we have a new name why can’t

why can’t we have a new name why can’t we have a name that indicates that we’re

we have a name that indicates that we’re

we have a name that indicates that we’re vibrant we’re active we have purposeful

vibrant we’re active we have purposeful

vibrant we’re active we have purposeful activity so please could you think about

activity so please could you think about

activity so please could you think about a new name for me some two years ago

a new name for me some two years ago

a new name for me some two years ago when I was on holiday I was browsing in

when I was on holiday I was browsing in

when I was on holiday I was browsing in a bookshop I came across a book about a

a bookshop I came across a book about a

a bookshop I came across a book about a woman called Clare Boothe Luce she was

woman called Clare Boothe Luce she was

woman called Clare Boothe Luce she was an American diplomat when this book was

an American diplomat when this book was

an American diplomat when this book was written she was 80 years of age just

written she was 80 years of age just

written she was 80 years of age just inside the front

inside the front

inside the front cover this woman said I will be

cover this woman said I will be

cover this woman said I will be ambitious until the day I die when you

ambitious until the day I die when you

ambitious until the day I die when you flick through the pages you got a sense

flick through the pages you got a sense

flick through the pages you got a sense of a truly vibrant woman who was really

of a truly vibrant woman who was really

of a truly vibrant woman who was really living her life she was still in paid

living her life she was still in paid

living her life she was still in paid work she was doing voluntary work now

work she was doing voluntary work now

work she was doing voluntary work now contrast that with mr. Wright mr. Wright

contrast that with mr. Wright mr. Wright

contrast that with mr. Wright mr. Wright was a friend and colleague of my father

was a friend and colleague of my father

was a friend and colleague of my father they both worked in the coop warehouse

they both worked in the coop warehouse

they both worked in the coop warehouse mr. Wright joined the coop at 16 he was

mr. Wright joined the coop at 16 he was

mr. Wright joined the coop at 16 he was going to retire at 65

going to retire at 65

going to retire at 65 they gave him his gold watch and I was

they gave him his gold watch and I was

they gave him his gold watch and I was talking to him over the fence about two

talking to him over the fence about two

talking to him over the fence about two weeks after he retired I said mr. Wright

weeks after he retired I said mr. Wright

weeks after he retired I said mr. Wright what are you going to do he looked

what are you going to do he looked

what are you going to do he looked rather soulful and down and then almost

rather soulful and down and then almost

rather soulful and down and then almost in tears he said to me I have no job I

in tears he said to me I have no job I

in tears he said to me I have no job I am waiting to die I was 16 of course I

am waiting to die I was 16 of course I

am waiting to die I was 16 of course I thought I was immortal I was really more

thought I was immortal I was really more

thought I was immortal I was really more concerned about my own levels the mr.

concerned about my own levels the mr.

concerned about my own levels the mr. Wright and his problems I wasn’t really

Wright and his problems I wasn’t really

Wright and his problems I wasn’t really very sympathetic mr. Wright was dead by

very sympathetic mr. Wright was dead by

very sympathetic mr. Wright was dead by 17 he had no purposeful work he had

17 he had no purposeful work he had

17 he had no purposeful work he had nothing to live for now work is defined

nothing to live for now work is defined

nothing to live for now work is defined in the dictionary as purposeful activity

in the dictionary as purposeful activity

in the dictionary as purposeful activity it could be paid could be unpaid it

it could be paid could be unpaid it

it could be paid could be unpaid it might be full or part-time or

might be full or part-time or

might be full or part-time or self-employment you might be caring for

self-employment you might be caring for

self-employment you might be caring for someone you may be a homemaker bringing

someone you may be a homemaker bringing

someone you may be a homemaker bringing up a family you may be doing voluntary

up a family you may be doing voluntary

up a family you may be doing voluntary activities all of these things are

activities all of these things are

activities all of these things are social good and individual good they are

social good and individual good they are

social good and individual good they are purposeful activity I want that work

purposeful activity I want that work

purposeful activity I want that work be good work I’m not talking about bad

be good work I’m not talking about bad

be good work I’m not talking about bad work and there is quite a lot of bad

work and there is quite a lot of bad

work and there is quite a lot of bad work around I’m talking about work where

work around I’m talking about work where

work around I’m talking about work where you feel valued where you listen to

you feel valued where you listen to

you feel valued where you listen to where you’re given a sense of control so

where you’re given a sense of control so

where you’re given a sense of control so I have to tell you about my underground

I have to tell you about my underground

I have to tell you about my underground train driver this was when I was

train driver this was when I was

train driver this was when I was national director for health and work

national director for health and work

national director for health and work and I thought that some people had very

and I thought that some people had very

and I thought that some people had very boring jobs so I said can I go and join

boring jobs so I said can I go and join

boring jobs so I said can I go and join someone who’s driving an underground

someone who’s driving an underground

someone who’s driving an underground train so I joined my driver at Baker

train so I joined my driver at Baker

train so I joined my driver at Baker Street tube station it was the early

Street tube station it was the early

Street tube station it was the early shift 5:00 a.m. in the morning we sat

shift 5:00 a.m. in the morning we sat

shift 5:00 a.m. in the morning we sat together in his little cabin well I got

together in his little cabin well I got

together in his little cabin well I got pretty bored we went up and down the

pretty bored we went up and down the

pretty bored we went up and down the Bakerloo line so I said you know could

Bakerloo line so I said you know could

Bakerloo line so I said you know could we do the Jubilee Line and and this is

we do the Jubilee Line and and this is

we do the Jubilee Line and and this is an awfully early shift and wouldn’t it

an awfully early shift and wouldn’t it

an awfully early shift and wouldn’t it be good for your family if you could

be good for your family if you could

be good for your family if you could have the afternoon shift and then I said

have the afternoon shift and then I said

have the afternoon shift and then I said course if your employer was a good

course if your employer was a good

course if your employer was a good employer you could have a week above

employer you could have a week above

employer you could have a week above ground at the barriers talking to people

ground at the barriers talking to people

ground at the barriers talking to people and then three weeks underground in this

and then three weeks underground in this

and then three weeks underground in this really dark tunnel well he was very

really dark tunnel well he was very

really dark tunnel well he was very happy to drop me off well when he

happy to drop me off well when he

happy to drop me off well when he dropped me off what he did it was

dropped me off what he did it was

dropped me off what he did it was wonderful he banged on his reel and said

wonderful he banged on his reel and said

wonderful he banged on his reel and said looking fairly cross with me this is my

looking fairly cross with me this is my

looking fairly cross with me this is my train nothing happens here but that I

train nothing happens here but that I

train nothing happens here but that I give the orders I’m responsible for the

give the orders I’m responsible for the

give the orders I’m responsible for the safety of the people behind me I’ve got

safety of the people behind me I’ve got

safety of the people behind me I’ve got good mates I don’t want the Metropolitan

good mates I don’t want the Metropolitan

good mates I don’t want the Metropolitan Life but I don’t want a later shift

Life but I don’t want a later shift

Life but I don’t want a later shift we’ve got good occupational house I’m

we’ve got good occupational house I’m

we’ve got good occupational house I’m reasonably well paid more or less he was

reasonably well paid more or less he was

reasonably well paid more or less he was saying go away

saying go away

saying go away now I thought my train driver would be

now I thought my train driver would be

now I thought my train driver would be in that job until he was in his sixties

in that job until he was in his sixties

in that job until he was in his sixties until he was going to retire but then

until he was going to retire but then

until he was going to retire but then what had we thought about him having new

what had we thought about him having new

what had we thought about him having new skills did he have an educational need

skills did he have an educational need

skills did he have an educational need or was he going to sit lie down and

or was he going to sit lie down and

or was he going to sit lie down and shrivel this was a man with purposeful

shrivel this was a man with purposeful

shrivel this was a man with purposeful activity now for most of you in the

activity now for most of you in the

activity now for most of you in the audience this will not be a problem you

audience this will not be a problem you

audience this will not be a problem you will have thought about this transition

will have thought about this transition

will have thought about this transition period and what can happen afterwards

period and what can happen afterwards

period and what can happen afterwards but there are thousands and thousands of

but there are thousands and thousands of

but there are thousands and thousands of people out there who are not in the sort

people out there who are not in the sort

people out there who are not in the sort of jobs where they have thought about

of jobs where they have thought about

of jobs where they have thought about this I believe if someone is mentally

this I believe if someone is mentally

this I believe if someone is mentally and physically able if they have

and physically able if they have

and physically able if they have aspirations if they have hidden

aspirations if they have hidden

aspirations if they have hidden ambitions they should be able to do this

ambitions they should be able to do this

ambitions they should be able to do this at whatever time of life they are indeed

at whatever time of life they are indeed

at whatever time of life they are indeed encouraging my train driver to slow down

encouraging my train driver to slow down

encouraging my train driver to slow down to sit down take more rest is actually

to sit down take more rest is actually

to sit down take more rest is actually bad for his health just to concentrate

bad for his health just to concentrate

bad for his health just to concentrate on one part of health just let us think

on one part of health just let us think

on one part of health just let us think about physical activity we now know that

about physical activity we now know that

about physical activity we now know that physical activity is very related

physical activity is very related

physical activity is very related strongly correlated to your overall

strongly correlated to your overall

strongly correlated to your overall health

health

health in fact it’s bad for you to really just

in fact it’s bad for you to really just

in fact it’s bad for you to really just rest and sleep and do nothing else and

rest and sleep and do nothing else and

rest and sleep and do nothing else and we now know there is a medical condition

we now know there is a medical condition

we now know there is a medical condition called frailty if you’re frail you sit

called frailty if you’re frail you sit

called frailty if you’re frail you sit more when you walk you walk far more

more when you walk you walk far more

more when you walk you walk far more slowly your grip strength gets worse you

slowly your grip strength gets worse you

slowly your grip strength gets worse you feel exhausted

feel exhausted

feel exhausted and you lose weight now that condition

and you lose weight now that condition

and you lose weight now that condition of frailty you might think happens oh

of frailty you might think happens oh

of frailty you might think happens oh well after when you’re 80 but let me

well after when you’re 80 but let me

well after when you’re 80 but let me tell you there is good evidence now this

tell you there is good evidence now this

tell you there is good evidence now this happens to people in their fifties and

happens to people in their fifties and

happens to people in their fifties and their sixties and it is correlated with

their sixties and it is correlated with

their sixties and it is correlated with your ability to be in work so we don’t

your ability to be in work so we don’t

your ability to be in work so we don’t want to be encouraging people to do too

want to be encouraging people to do too

want to be encouraging people to do too much sitting which brings me to my story

much sitting which brings me to my story

much sitting which brings me to my story from this summer I was on holiday in

from this summer I was on holiday in

from this summer I was on holiday in Spain on a walking holiday um and it had

Spain on a walking holiday um and it had

Spain on a walking holiday um and it had been rather wet and damp we were coming

been rather wet and damp we were coming

been rather wet and damp we were coming down the mountain and I fell and I

down the mountain and I fell and I

down the mountain and I fell and I fractured my left leg fortunately just

fractured my left leg fortunately just

fractured my left leg fortunately just the small bone in my left leg I was put

the small bone in my left leg I was put

the small bone in my left leg I was put in a nice boot with a rocker and I could

in a nice boot with a rocker and I could

in a nice boot with a rocker and I could walk pretty fast but all my friends were

walk pretty fast but all my friends were

walk pretty fast but all my friends were highly protective Carol I think you

highly protective Carol I think you

highly protective Carol I think you should sit down let us make you a cup of

should sit down let us make you a cup of

should sit down let us make you a cup of tea it would really be better if you had

tea it would really be better if you had

tea it would really be better if you had a car to go there and then one friend

a car to go there and then one friend

a car to go there and then one friend said well why don’t you take two months

said well why don’t you take two months

said well why don’t you take two months off work it’ll help you recover as if

off work it’ll help you recover as if

off work it’ll help you recover as if just resting was going to help me

just resting was going to help me

just resting was going to help me recover indeed the opposite is true if

recover indeed the opposite is true if

recover indeed the opposite is true if you want a bone to heal you have to give

you want a bone to heal you have to give

you want a bone to heal you have to give it some messages you have to give it a

it some messages you have to give it a

it some messages you have to give it a little bit of tension so walking was

little bit of tension so walking was

little bit of tension so walking was very good for me and I did walk and two

very good for me and I did walk and two

very good for me and I did walk and two weeks after my accident then I was able

weeks after my accident then I was able

weeks after my accident then I was able to join in the Cambridge Chariots of

to join in the Cambridge Chariots of

to join in the Cambridge Chariots of Fire race I just did fast walking now

Fire race I just did fast walking now

Fire race I just did fast walking now I’m really pleased to say that a light

I’m really pleased to say that a light

I’m really pleased to say that a light bulb has gone on in Whitehall the

bulb has gone on in Whitehall the

bulb has gone on in Whitehall the government really gets this connection

government really gets this connection

government really gets this connection and is concerned about it so just before

and is concerned about it so just before

and is concerned about it so just before Christmas there was a very good report

Christmas there was a very good report

Christmas there was a very good report published which linked active aging to

published which linked active aging to

published which linked active aging to our musculoskeletal system and being

our musculoskeletal system and being

our musculoskeletal system and being physically active with some pretty good

physically active with some pretty good

physically active with some pretty good advice about what we might do and I’m

advice about what we might do and I’m

advice about what we might do and I’m really delighted

really delighted

really delighted that our charities for example Age

that our charities for example Age

that our charities for example Age Concern are right behind this movement

Concern are right behind this movement

Concern are right behind this movement but what would I like to eliminate from

but what would I like to eliminate from

but what would I like to eliminate from the way we think about and indeed treat

the way we think about and indeed treat

the way we think about and indeed treat older people well I want to eliminate

older people well I want to eliminate

older people well I want to eliminate our being overprotective you know what

our being overprotective you know what

our being overprotective you know what we say is well you might trip or fall if

we say is well you might trip or fall if

we say is well you might trip or fall if you go out you might break your leg so

you go out you might break your leg so

you go out you might break your leg so why not sit at home we make them less

why not sit at home we make them less

why not sit at home we make them less self-confident they know that they’re

self-confident they know that they’re

self-confident they know that they’re balanced this is just good we all know

balanced this is just good we all know

balanced this is just good we all know our balance isn’t as good as we get

our balance isn’t as good as we get

our balance isn’t as good as we get older but rather than be hugely

older but rather than be hugely

older but rather than be hugely protective so they don’t go and meet

protective so they don’t go and meet

protective so they don’t go and meet their friends for coffee they don’t go

their friends for coffee they don’t go

their friends for coffee they don’t go to the church hall to have afternoon tea

to the church hall to have afternoon tea

to the church hall to have afternoon tea they don’t go and do their shopping why

they don’t go and do their shopping why

they don’t go and do their shopping why don’t we help them do things that

don’t we help them do things that

don’t we help them do things that improve their balance you can clean your

improve their balance you can clean your

improve their balance you can clean your teeth standing on one foot that’s very

teeth standing on one foot that’s very

teeth standing on one foot that’s very good for your balance and surely it is

good for your balance and surely it is

good for your balance and surely it is for the social good and indeed it would

for the social good and indeed it would

for the social good and indeed it would cost less money if we concentrated on

cost less money if we concentrated on

cost less money if we concentrated on being positive rather the leaving people

being positive rather the leaving people

being positive rather the leaving people in their home secluded and if you’re

in their home secluded and if you’re

in their home secluded and if you’re secluded you become lonely and I don’t

secluded you become lonely and I don’t

secluded you become lonely and I don’t need to tell you that loneliness is now

need to tell you that loneliness is now

need to tell you that loneliness is now a national disease the other thing I

a national disease the other thing I

a national disease the other thing I really get upset about is going into a

really get upset about is going into a

really get upset about is going into a care home now some care homes are very

care home now some care homes are very

care home now some care homes are very good but I’ve been into too many when

good but I’ve been into too many when

good but I’ve been into too many when you go in and you see people just

you go in and you see people just

you go in and you see people just sitting all around the room they’re not

sitting all around the room they’re not

sitting all around the room they’re not talking to each other some of them are

talking to each other some of them are

talking to each other some of them are just looking straight ahead some are

just looking straight ahead some are

just looking straight ahead some are looking at the television but there’s no

looking at the television but there’s no

looking at the television but there’s no purposeful activity now why aren’t they

purposeful activity now why aren’t they

purposeful activity now why aren’t they on the floor doing a movement Plus why

on the floor doing a movement Plus why

on the floor doing a movement Plus why aren’t they going out for a walk or what

aren’t they going out for a walk or what

aren’t they going out for a walk or what about a bit of yoga or

about a bit of yoga or

about a bit of yoga or simple artists why isn’t there some

simple artists why isn’t there some

simple artists why isn’t there some purpose now my own life has had many

purpose now my own life has had many

purpose now my own life has had many episodes of purposeful activity and many

episodes of purposeful activity and many

episodes of purposeful activity and many of them have been after the age of 50

of them have been after the age of 50

of them have been after the age of 50 indeed many of the best things have been

indeed many of the best things have been

indeed many of the best things have been after the age of 50 I would describe

after the age of 50 I would describe

after the age of 50 I would describe myself as a late developer I became

myself as a late developer I became

myself as a late developer I became national director for health and work at

national director for health and work at

national director for health and work at the age of 66 and had a wonderful

the age of 66 and had a wonderful

the age of 66 and had a wonderful challenge but earlier in my life I

challenge but earlier in my life I

challenge but earlier in my life I didn’t have enough confidence I wasn’t a

didn’t have enough confidence I wasn’t a

didn’t have enough confidence I wasn’t a good enough risk-taker

good enough risk-taker

good enough risk-taker there were periods when I was pretty

there were periods when I was pretty

there were periods when I was pretty static but things did develop after the

static but things did develop after the

static but things did develop after the age of 50 and I talked about this when I

age of 50 and I talked about this when I

age of 50 and I talked about this when I did Desert Island Discs and I was

did Desert Island Discs and I was

did Desert Island Discs and I was immensely moved by the number of people

immensely moved by the number of people

immensely moved by the number of people who either wrote me emails or letters

who either wrote me emails or letters

who either wrote me emails or letters and told me their stories their stories

and told me their stories their stories

and told me their stories their stories of how they wanted to do things after 50

of how they wanted to do things after 50

of how they wanted to do things after 50 and 60 their aspirations their ambitions

and 60 their aspirations their ambitions

and 60 their aspirations their ambitions their hopes

their hopes

their hopes it was truly moving just to give you an

it was truly moving just to give you an

it was truly moving just to give you an example of a really good message that I

example of a really good message that I

example of a really good message that I received was from a woman who said well

received was from a woman who said well

received was from a woman who said well my husband had a very good career and

my husband had a very good career and

my husband had a very good career and he’s thinking of taking early retirement

he’s thinking of taking early retirement

he’s thinking of taking early retirement I took some time off with the children

I took some time off with the children

I took some time off with the children got a part-time job then a full-time job

got a part-time job then a full-time job

got a part-time job then a full-time job and now it’s my time I want a career I

and now it’s my time I want a career I

and now it’s my time I want a career I might live to be a hundred so I told him

might live to be a hundred so I told him

might live to be a hundred so I told him I’m just starting

I’m just starting

I’m just starting we often inside do not feel confident

we often inside do not feel confident

we often inside do not feel confident when we go for jobs at this age will

when we go for jobs at this age will

when we go for jobs at this age will they regard me as old incapable not

they regard me as old incapable not

they regard me as old incapable not mature

mature

mature will I be resilient enough why can’t

will I be resilient enough why can’t

will I be resilient enough why can’t they see us as experienced capable

they see us as experienced capable

they see us as experienced capable people who will do the job

people who will do the job

people who will do the job surely that should be possible I’m going

surely that should be possible I’m going

surely that should be possible I’m going to be flippant for a moment because I

to be flippant for a moment because I

to be flippant for a moment because I want to talk about clothes and shoes now

want to talk about clothes and shoes now

want to talk about clothes and shoes now when you get to my age should you want

when you get to my age should you want

when you get to my age should you want to buy fashionable clothes I can’t tell

to buy fashionable clothes I can’t tell

to buy fashionable clothes I can’t tell you it’s difficult what they would like

you it’s difficult what they would like

you it’s difficult what they would like to do is to put us into rather long

to do is to put us into rather long

to do is to put us into rather long skirts the colours are often drab and

skirts the colours are often drab and

skirts the colours are often drab and there’s a lot of sort of pale floral

there’s a lot of sort of pale floral

there’s a lot of sort of pale floral colors and it gets worse

colors and it gets worse

colors and it gets worse when you want a pair of jeans really you

when you want a pair of jeans really you

when you want a pair of jeans really you shouldn’t be wanting jeans at this age

shouldn’t be wanting jeans at this age

shouldn’t be wanting jeans at this age what about shoes I can’t wear those very

what about shoes I can’t wear those very

what about shoes I can’t wear those very big heels but I could wear elegant pumps

big heels but I could wear elegant pumps

big heels but I could wear elegant pumps with a heel that is suitable for me

with a heel that is suitable for me

with a heel that is suitable for me feeling a really competent woman at the

feeling a really competent woman at the

feeling a really competent woman at the age I am why do these retailers not see

age I am why do these retailers not see

age I am why do these retailers not see us as a market why are we not encouraged

us as a market why are we not encouraged

us as a market why are we not encouraged to go into those shops like the young I

to go into those shops like the young I

to go into those shops like the young I wish that that could happen so I talk to

wish that that could happen so I talk to

wish that that could happen so I talk to you about retirement I taught you about

you about retirement I taught you about

you about retirement I taught you about how its defined that you will sit that

how its defined that you will sit that

how its defined that you will sit that you will lie down that you’ll be

you will lie down that you’ll be

you will lie down that you’ll be secluded removed from the world I don’t

secluded removed from the world I don’t

secluded removed from the world I don’t want that I want anyone and everyone of

want that I want anyone and everyone of

want that I want anyone and everyone of that age to feel that they have purpose

that age to feel that they have purpose

that age to feel that they have purpose and that they can live life to the full

and that they can live life to the full

and that they can live life to the full you often feel there is a deadness

you often feel there is a deadness

you often feel there is a deadness living I hope to be ambitious until the

living I hope to be ambitious until the

living I hope to be ambitious until the day I die I will not be part of the

day I die I will not be part of the

day I die I will not be part of the Living Dead

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