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“Redemption” | Daniel Bull | TEDxChesterStatePrison


good afternoon so uh I was pretty

good afternoon so uh I was pretty nervous going in after lunch

nervous going in after lunch

nervous going in after lunch everyone’s gonna be asleep but after

everyone’s gonna be asleep but after

everyone’s gonna be asleep but after some of that music after Dewan dropping

some of that music after Dewan dropping

some of that music after Dewan dropping the mic now I know you’re gonna be

the mic now I know you’re gonna be

the mic now I know you’re gonna be asleep from me I know it I know it I

asleep from me I know it I know it I

asleep from me I know it I know it I know it it’s really an honor to be

know it it’s really an honor to be

know it it’s really an honor to be speaking with you I’m not gonna say it’s

speaking with you I’m not gonna say it’s

speaking with you I’m not gonna say it’s nice to be here cuz that’s kind of weird

nice to be here cuz that’s kind of weird

nice to be here cuz that’s kind of weird right guys right it’s not nice to be

right guys right it’s not nice to be

right guys right it’s not nice to be here am i right yeah

here am i right yeah

here am i right yeah and I’ve been there so I’m gonna share

and I’ve been there so I’m gonna share

and I’ve been there so I’m gonna share with you a little bit of my personal

with you a little bit of my personal

with you a little bit of my personal journey journey and story and I’m also

journey journey and story and I’m also

journey journey and story and I’m also then going to share with with our guests

then going to share with with our guests

then going to share with with our guests a little bit about the talent that is

a little bit about the talent that is

a little bit about the talent that is sitting over here in these rows you see

sitting over here in these rows you see

sitting over here in these rows you see I had a privilege I dedication I had a

I had a privilege I dedication I had a

I had a privilege I dedication I had a family that loved me the first person I

family that loved me the first person I

family that loved me the first person I met from prison was when I was walking

met from prison was when I was walking

met from prison was when I was walking into prison I had no experience this is

into prison I had no experience this is

into prison I had no experience this is a world I knew nothing about so I was

a world I knew nothing about so I was

a world I knew nothing about so I was nervous I was scared I didn’t know what

nervous I was scared I didn’t know what

nervous I was scared I didn’t know what to expect other than what they share

to expect other than what they share

to expect other than what they share with you on TV right so I was ready no

with you on TV right so I was ready no

with you on TV right so I was ready no one’s gonna mess with me people were

one’s gonna mess with me people were

one’s gonna mess with me people were scared of me because that was crazy

but in reality what happened when I

but in reality what happened when I walked through that razor wire and I met

walked through that razor wire and I met

walked through that razor wire and I met people who were kind compassionate did

people who were kind compassionate did

people who were kind compassionate did not want to take advantage just wanted

not want to take advantage just wanted

not want to take advantage just wanted to help with this transition because

to help with this transition because

to help with this transition because clearly my world had just blown up they

clearly my world had just blown up they

clearly my world had just blown up they were doctors they were attorneys they

were doctors they were attorneys they

were doctors they were attorneys they were drug dealers who were way smarter

were drug dealers who were way smarter

were drug dealers who were way smarter than those doctors and those attorneys

than those doctors and those attorneys

than those doctors and those attorneys and they had gifts and they had these

and they had gifts and they had these

and they had gifts and they had these talents and you see the world I came

talents and you see the world I came

talents and you see the world I came from was about leveraging gifts and

from was about leveraging gifts and

from was about leveraging gifts and talents for profit I was from the

talents for profit I was from the

talents for profit I was from the venture capital community I was from the

venture capital community I was from the

venture capital community I was from the angel capital community we started

angel capital community we started

angel capital community we started businesses and I thought that businesses

businesses and I thought that businesses

businesses and I thought that businesses like those were exclusively

like those were exclusively

like those were exclusively those from the Ivy League or for those

those from the Ivy League or for those

those from the Ivy League or for those from privilege I knew after my time that

from privilege I knew after my time that

from privilege I knew after my time that was a lie

was a lie

was a lie so when upon my release I’m gonna share

so when upon my release I’m gonna share

so when upon my release I’m gonna share with you a personal journey because it

with you a personal journey because it

with you a personal journey because it did not just go with the gates opened

did not just go with the gates opened

did not just go with the gates opened and it was I’m free give me your money

and it was I’m free give me your money

and it was I’m free give me your money didn’t happen that way

didn’t happen that way

didn’t happen that way what happened was I had to wrestle with

what happened was I had to wrestle with

what happened was I had to wrestle with all of the damage that I had caused from

all of the damage that I had caused from

all of the damage that I had caused from my sin from my transgressions you see I

my sin from my transgressions you see I

my sin from my transgressions you see I was bankrupt every bridge that I had

was bankrupt every bridge that I had

was bankrupt every bridge that I had built had been burned by my crime of

built had been burned by my crime of

built had been burned by my crime of theft I had lost my family specifically

theft I had lost my family specifically

theft I had lost my family specifically my marriage my two young daughters they

my marriage my two young daughters they

my marriage my two young daughters they were stripped from me and I was alone

were stripped from me and I was alone

were stripped from me and I was alone and so my time in prison I had my mom

and so my time in prison I had my mom

and so my time in prison I had my mom who came as faithfully as she could just

who came as faithfully as she could just

who came as faithfully as she could just to sit with me half the time I couldn’t

to sit with me half the time I couldn’t

to sit with me half the time I couldn’t even talk I was constantly so ashamed

even talk I was constantly so ashamed

even talk I was constantly so ashamed that she had to come into a place like

that she had to come into a place like

that she had to come into a place like this a place that it’s not nice to be

after reconciling with my misgivings and

after reconciling with my misgivings and realizing that I’m not helping anyone

realizing that I’m not helping anyone

realizing that I’m not helping anyone feeling sorry for myself I knew I only

feeling sorry for myself I knew I only

feeling sorry for myself I knew I only had one thing that I needed to focus on

had one thing that I needed to focus on

had one thing that I needed to focus on and it was not getting rich it was not

and it was not getting rich it was not

and it was not getting rich it was not you know set in the world on fire

you know set in the world on fire

you know set in the world on fire I needed to reconcile to reconcile you

I needed to reconcile to reconcile you

I needed to reconcile to reconcile you have to first deal with in and so I had

have to first deal with in and so I had

have to first deal with in and so I had to forgive people who rightfully were

to forgive people who rightfully were

to forgive people who rightfully were angry towards me but had taken it to a

angry towards me but had taken it to a

angry towards me but had taken it to a whole nother level

whole nother level

whole nother level I’ve kept my children away I know there

I’ve kept my children away I know there

I’ve kept my children away I know there are many of you going through this

are many of you going through this

are many of you going through this there’s anger and it builds and it will

there’s anger and it builds and it will

there’s anger and it builds and it will not stop building it just gets bigger

not stop building it just gets bigger

not stop building it just gets bigger and I did half of my time I bit off of

and I did half of my time I bit off of

and I did half of my time I bit off of the anger so was afraid to let it go

the anger so was afraid to let it go

the anger so was afraid to let it go that might seem bizarre to some of you

that might seem bizarre to some of you

that might seem bizarre to some of you some of you were way more mature than I

some of you were way more mature than I

some of you were way more mature than I was but I wanted to blame I wanted to

was but I wanted to blame I wanted to

was but I wanted to blame I wanted to point fingers I wanted to say man look

point fingers I wanted to say man look

point fingers I wanted to say man look how generous I was and they just left me

how generous I was and they just left me

how generous I was and they just left me and then took everything that I had left

and then took everything that I had left

and then took everything that I had left away so the day came I’d reconciled with

away so the day came I’d reconciled with

away so the day came I’d reconciled with all of that internally and I was

all of that internally and I was

all of that internally and I was released and I started seeking out those

released and I started seeking out those

released and I started seeking out those who I had hurt so to give you an example

who I had hurt so to give you an example

who I had hurt so to give you an example of how bad I hurt some people

of how bad I hurt some people

of how bad I hurt some people my first meeting was with a gentleman

my first meeting was with a gentleman

my first meeting was with a gentleman who I had stolen about $200,000 from how

who I had stolen about $200,000 from how

who I had stolen about $200,000 from how would you treat someone like that I was

would you treat someone like that I was

would you treat someone like that I was terrified I was ashamed I was reliving

terrified I was ashamed I was reliving

terrified I was ashamed I was reliving the nightmare of when I was found out

the nightmare of when I was found out

the nightmare of when I was found out but I did not want an enemy

but I did not want an enemy

but I did not want an enemy I did not want someone living their life

I did not want someone living their life

I did not want someone living their life in anger towards me I wanted to give

in anger towards me I wanted to give

in anger towards me I wanted to give them an opportunity to be heard and so I

them an opportunity to be heard and so I

them an opportunity to be heard and so I went more to listen and to ask for

went more to listen and to ask for

went more to listen and to ask for forgiveness something really bizarre

forgiveness something really bizarre

forgiveness something really bizarre happened at a max enormous booth table

happened at a max enormous booth table

happened at a max enormous booth table me sweating like crazy just I can’t

me sweating like crazy just I can’t

me sweating like crazy just I can’t believe I’m gonna meet this person again

believe I’m gonna meet this person again

believe I’m gonna meet this person again he sits down he asked how I’m doing as

he sits down he asked how I’m doing as

he sits down he asked how I’m doing as well as could be expected I just got out

well as could be expected I just got out

well as could be expected I just got out of prison and we had a conversation and

of prison and we had a conversation and

of prison and we had a conversation and eventually through tears and some

eventually through tears and some

eventually through tears and some uncomfortable questions he accepted an

uncomfortable questions he accepted an

uncomfortable questions he accepted an apology I couldn’t believe it

apology I couldn’t believe it

apology I couldn’t believe it I could not believe him I’m gonna fast

I could not believe him I’m gonna fast

I could not believe him I’m gonna fast forward now I had a dozen of those

forward now I had a dozen of those

forward now I had a dozen of those meetings and as I was meeting with them

meetings and as I was meeting with them

meetings and as I was meeting with them people started hearing what I was doing

people started hearing what I was doing

people started hearing what I was doing again words didn’t mean anything anymore

again words didn’t mean anything anymore

again words didn’t mean anything anymore it was about actions people started

it was about actions people started

it was about actions people started hearing and then I got a phone call and

hearing and then I got a phone call and

hearing and then I got a phone call and I got a phone call from one of my former

I got a phone call from one of my former

I got a phone call from one of my former victims who was having a problem within

victims who was having a problem within

victims who was having a problem within his business and he said look Dan I

his business and he said look Dan I

his business and he said look Dan I don’t appreciate of course our history

don’t appreciate of course our history

don’t appreciate of course our history and what you did but I do appreciate the

and what you did but I do appreciate the

and what you did but I do appreciate the talent that you have and you still have

talent that you have and you still have

talent that you have and you still have and that you could put to good use I

and that you could put to good use I

and that you could put to good use I need help

need help

need help he shared with me a matter within his

he shared with me a matter within his

he shared with me a matter within his business he wanted to see if I could

business he wanted to see if I could

business he wanted to see if I could help and gladly I took it a year later

help and gladly I took it a year later

help and gladly I took it a year later I became a partner an equity owner in

I became a partner an equity owner in

I became a partner an equity owner in the business I once stole a quarter of a

the business I once stole a quarter of a

the business I once stole a quarter of a million dollars from those are hard

million dollars from those are hard

million dollars from those are hard conversations that conversation left to

conversations that conversation left to

conversations that conversation left to others you know the worst thing I’ve

others you know the worst thing I’ve

others you know the worst thing I’ve ever done let me share with you the best

ever done let me share with you the best

ever done let me share with you the best thing I’ve ever done and no it’s still

thing I’ve ever done and no it’s still

thing I’ve ever done and no it’s still not back to these starting these

not back to these starting these

not back to these starting these businesses through that path of choosing

businesses through that path of choosing

businesses through that path of choosing the hard conversations having to relive

the hard conversations having to relive

the hard conversations having to relive that pain that you just want to forget

that pain that you just want to forget

that pain that you just want to forget and walk away from you don’t want to see

and walk away from you don’t want to see

and walk away from you don’t want to see it again but going to reconcile it

it again but going to reconcile it

it again but going to reconcile it eventually someone else heard about this

eventually someone else heard about this

eventually someone else heard about this this new attitude this new Dan and it

this new attitude this new Dan and it

this new attitude this new Dan and it was my ex-wife who had been keeping the

was my ex-wife who had been keeping the

was my ex-wife who had been keeping the killed kids away in fear that I was a

killed kids away in fear that I was a

killed kids away in fear that I was a bad example and so I get a letter

bad example and so I get a letter

bad example and so I get a letter inviting me

inviting me

inviting me no no courts involved to see my children

no no courts involved to see my children

no no courts involved to see my children my babies that was the greatest day

my babies that was the greatest day

my babies that was the greatest day Dajuan I’m with you I didn’t have the

Dajuan I’m with you I didn’t have the

Dajuan I’m with you I didn’t have the media around me I just had a bunch of

media around me I just had a bunch of

media around me I just had a bunch of flowers but the greatest day that was

flowers but the greatest day that was

flowers but the greatest day that was the day I felt like a hero and two years

the day I felt like a hero and two years

the day I felt like a hero and two years after my release almost almost to the

after my release almost almost to the

after my release almost almost to the anniversary my wife and I while she

anniversary my wife and I while she

anniversary my wife and I while she became my wife we remarried

and yes all the dudes who saw how I was

and yes all the dudes who saw how I was treated on the inside we’re like are you

treated on the inside we’re like are you

treated on the inside we’re like are you crazy are you crazy yes for her so look

crazy are you crazy yes for her so look

crazy are you crazy yes for her so look this doesn’t mean this is the path for

this doesn’t mean this is the path for

this doesn’t mean this is the path for everybody what I do know is I

everybody what I do know is I

everybody what I do know is I consistently followed the hard thing

consistently followed the hard thing

consistently followed the hard thing that I knew inside was the honorable

that I knew inside was the honorable

that I knew inside was the honorable thing that reconciled that put the

thing that reconciled that put the

thing that reconciled that put the pieces back together of what was

pieces back together of what was

pieces back together of what was shattered going back into your

shattered going back into your

shattered going back into your children’s lives yes that’s the right

children’s lives yes that’s the right

children’s lives yes that’s the right decision pretty obvious but it’s hard

decision pretty obvious but it’s hard

decision pretty obvious but it’s hard and you will sit through a lot of

and you will sit through a lot of

and you will sit through a lot of embarrassing and uncomfortable

embarrassing and uncomfortable

embarrassing and uncomfortable situations to do what’s right by that

situations to do what’s right by that

situations to do what’s right by that child and that’s your duty and you know

child and that’s your duty and you know

child and that’s your duty and you know it so the privilege that I have now is

it so the privilege that I have now is

it so the privilege that I have now is to continue working with in side prisons

to continue working with in side prisons

to continue working with in side prisons reentry halfway houses and on the street

reentry halfway houses and on the street

reentry halfway houses and on the street finding the most innovative creative

finding the most innovative creative

finding the most innovative creative individuals that I can with a criminal

individuals that I can with a criminal

individuals that I can with a criminal background and lifting them up

background and lifting them up

background and lifting them up rightfully to where they should be and

rightfully to where they should be and

rightfully to where they should be and so zero six eight is an entrepreneurial

so zero six eight is an entrepreneurial

so zero six eight is an entrepreneurial incubator using the skills that I had

incubator using the skills that I had

incubator using the skills that I had once before not for profit but for good

once before not for profit but for good

once before not for profit but for good profiting in humanity rather than

profiting in humanity rather than

profiting in humanity rather than necessarily just dollars so to give you

necessarily just dollars so to give you

necessarily just dollars so to give you an example of how incredible and

an example of how incredible and

an example of how incredible and successful inmates can be when they have

successful inmates can be when they have

successful inmates can be when they have no parachute anymore no rich uncle to

no parachute anymore no rich uncle to

no parachute anymore no rich uncle to turn on when success with their business

turn on when success with their business

turn on when success with their business has to happen we now have Silicon Valley

has to happen we now have Silicon Valley

has to happen we now have Silicon Valley and venture capitalists from around the

and venture capitalists from around the

and venture capitalists from around the country coming in to look at how we’re

country coming in to look at how we’re

country coming in to look at how we’re doing things because our success rate is

doing things because our success rate is

doing things because our success rate is twice almost exactly twice that of a

twice almost exactly twice that of a

twice almost exactly twice that of a typical startup incubator at our size

typical startup incubator at our size

typical startup incubator at our size that’s you guys

so in three years $10,000 has been

so in three years $10,000 has been turned into six million dollars to two

turned into six million dollars to two

turned into six million dollars to two jobs into a hundred jobs all right and

that’s just Pittsburgh the need to

that’s just Pittsburgh the need to channel and turn all of this potential

channel and turn all of this potential

channel and turn all of this potential energy into kinetic is in every city and

energy into kinetic is in every city and

energy into kinetic is in every city and so we go I go to places like this to

so we go I go to places like this to

so we go I go to places like this to other cities telling them this isn’t

other cities telling them this isn’t

other cities telling them this isn’t charity this is smart it’s right and

charity this is smart it’s right and

charity this is smart it’s right and it’s good and it has a quadruple impact

it’s good and it has a quadruple impact

it’s good and it has a quadruple impact to the community we might make ten

to the community we might make ten

to the community we might make ten thousand dollars a week on a business

thousand dollars a week on a business

thousand dollars a week on a business but do you know what they return to our

but do you know what they return to our

but do you know what they return to our city is it’s thirty it’s forty by

city is it’s thirty it’s forty by

city is it’s thirty it’s forty by keeping individuals out of jail

keeping individuals out of jail

keeping individuals out of jail reconciling with their families paying

reconciling with their families paying

reconciling with their families paying restitution paying child support paying

restitution paying child support paying

restitution paying child support paying taxes going to the local supermarket

taxes going to the local supermarket

taxes going to the local supermarket it’s exponential and it’s about

it’s exponential and it’s about

it’s exponential and it’s about humanizing like all of us have tried so

humanizing like all of us have tried so

humanizing like all of us have tried so hard today the ex-con because our

hard today the ex-con because our

hard today the ex-con because our businesses are not people shoveling

businesses are not people shoveling

businesses are not people shoveling manure which is literally what sometimes

manure which is literally what sometimes

manure which is literally what sometimes you have you won’t believe the people

you have you won’t believe the people

you have you won’t believe the people you have to explain no maintenance is

you have to explain no maintenance is

you have to explain no maintenance is not the only direction that an

not the only direction that an

not the only direction that an ex-offender can go it’s doctors its

ex-offender can go it’s doctors its

ex-offender can go it’s doctors its cybersecurity its construction HVAC

cybersecurity its construction HVAC

cybersecurity its construction HVAC electrical plumbing because what our

electrical plumbing because what our

electrical plumbing because what our prisons are made up of is exactly what

prisons are made up of is exactly what

prisons are made up of is exactly what all of America is made up of and that

all of America is made up of and that

all of America is made up of and that might not seem really obvious to you but

might not seem really obvious to you but

might not seem really obvious to you but it is a profound idea that needs to

it is a profound idea that needs to

it is a profound idea that needs to continue to ripple and under the

continue to ripple and under the

continue to ripple and under the guidance of secretary Wetzel and all the

guidance of secretary Wetzel and all the

guidance of secretary Wetzel and all the speakers here and some of you who have

speakers here and some of you who have

speakers here and some of you who have spoken and shared all of your talents

spoken and shared all of your talents

spoken and shared all of your talents it’s just a reminder that not only is

it’s just a reminder that not only is

it’s just a reminder that not only is this mission right man is it good and

this mission right man is it good and

this mission right man is it good and does it feel good thank you

does it feel good thank you

does it feel good thank you you

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