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as you probably have guessed from my

as you probably have guessed from my first image I’m here today to talk about

first image I’m here today to talk about

first image I’m here today to talk about wildlife or more accurately our growing

wildlife or more accurately our growing

wildlife or more accurately our growing absence of wildlife several scientists

absence of wildlife several scientists

absence of wildlife several scientists have theorized that we’re in the midst

have theorized that we’re in the midst

have theorized that we’re in the midst of a sixth great mass extinction there

of a sixth great mass extinction there

of a sixth great mass extinction there are the World Wildlife Fund estimates

are the World Wildlife Fund estimates

are the World Wildlife Fund estimates that up to two-thirds of all species in

that up to two-thirds of all species in

that up to two-thirds of all species in the wild could be going extinct in the

the wild could be going extinct in the

the wild could be going extinct in the next decade or two and there are many

next decade or two and there are many

next decade or two and there are many causes for this global warming

causes for this global warming

causes for this global warming widespread changes in land use and even

widespread changes in land use and even

widespread changes in land use and even overfishing but today I’m here to talk

overfishing but today I’m here to talk

overfishing but today I’m here to talk about one small yet significant part of

about one small yet significant part of

about one small yet significant part of this growing extinction and it occurs in

this growing extinction and it occurs in

this growing extinction and it occurs in probably the most popular wilderness of

probably the most popular wilderness of

probably the most popular wilderness of our imaginations and that’s East Africa

our imaginations and that’s East Africa

our imaginations and that’s East Africa now to get a sense of the decline in

now to get a sense of the decline in

now to get a sense of the decline in 1974 there were about 20,000 rhino

1974 there were about 20,000 rhino

1974 there were about 20,000 rhino now that was only an estimate because

now that was only an estimate because

now that was only an estimate because there were too many to actually count

there were too many to actually count

there were too many to actually count but by 1984 there were just 260 right

but by 1984 there were just 260 right

but by 1984 there were just 260 right now similarly there were about 1.3

now similarly there were about 1.3

now similarly there were about 1.3 million elephant ten years later that

million elephant ten years later that

million elephant ten years later that was down to roughly a third so what

was down to roughly a third so what

was down to roughly a third so what caused this growing this growing decline

caused this growing this growing decline

caused this growing this growing decline what made it so quick and the answer is

what made it so quick and the answer is

what made it so quick and the answer is poaching the illegal hunting of wildlife

poaching the illegal hunting of wildlife

poaching the illegal hunting of wildlife with elephants ivory elephants are

with elephants ivory elephants are

with elephants ivory elephants are killed for ivory which is mainly sent to

killed for ivory which is mainly sent to

killed for ivory which is mainly sent to Asia to be turned into decorative

Asia to be turned into decorative

Asia to be turned into decorative objects there’s a myth that rhino horn

objects there’s a myth that rhino horn

objects there’s a myth that rhino horn cures cancer which drives an insanely

cures cancer which drives an insanely

cures cancer which drives an insanely expensive market of desperate people all

expensive market of desperate people all

expensive market of desperate people all hoping to buy a cure even smaller

hoping to buy a cure even smaller

hoping to buy a cure even smaller animals are not immune gazelles and

animals are not immune gazelles and

animals are not immune gazelles and monkeys are hunted and eaten as bush

monkeys are hunted and eaten as bush

monkeys are hunted and eaten as bush meat so you’re probably asking what did

meat so you’re probably asking what did

meat so you’re probably asking what did any of this have to do with me am i a

any of this have to do with me am i a

any of this have to do with me am i a scientist no I’m a filmmaker oh you like

scientist no I’m a filmmaker oh you like

scientist no I’m a filmmaker oh you like oh you’re in nature filmmaker you make

oh you’re in nature filmmaker you make

oh you’re in nature filmmaker you make documentaries on furniture no actually I

documentaries on furniture no actually I

documentaries on furniture no actually I mostly do films about humanity I’ve made

mostly do films about humanity I’ve made

mostly do films about humanity I’ve made documentaries about artists who struggle

documentaries about artists who struggle

documentaries about artists who struggle to create despite having mental illness

to create despite having mental illness

to create despite having mental illness and I

and I

and I made films about how gentrification

made films about how gentrification

made films about how gentrification happens in a New York City neighborhood

happens in a New York City neighborhood

happens in a New York City neighborhood most of my films deal with questions

most of my films deal with questions

most of my films deal with questions where there seemed to be lots of

where there seemed to be lots of

where there seemed to be lots of opinions but no easy answers and that

opinions but no easy answers and that

opinions but no easy answers and that led me to a question that I couldn’t get

led me to a question that I couldn’t get

led me to a question that I couldn’t get out of my mind

out of my mind

out of my mind what are poachers killing these

what are poachers killing these

what are poachers killing these endangered animals I mean don’t they

endangered animals I mean don’t they

endangered animals I mean don’t they know it’s wrong

know it’s wrong

know it’s wrong don’t they care it seemed that the

don’t they care it seemed that the

don’t they care it seemed that the mechanisms of poaching were pretty well

mechanisms of poaching were pretty well

mechanisms of poaching were pretty well understood as well as all the where all

understood as well as all the where all

understood as well as all the where all these endangered animal products were

these endangered animal products were

these endangered animal products were going but when it came to the poachers

going but when it came to the poachers

going but when it came to the poachers themselves they seem to remain

themselves they seem to remain

themselves they seem to remain mysterious and actually very demonized

mysterious and actually very demonized

mysterious and actually very demonized and that led me to want to know more

and that led me to want to know more

and that led me to want to know more about why they did what they did well

about why they did what they did well

about why they did what they did well I’m a filmmaker so I grabbed my camera

I’m a filmmaker so I grabbed my camera

I’m a filmmaker so I grabbed my camera hopped on a plane flew to Kenya drove

hopped on a plane flew to Kenya drove

hopped on a plane flew to Kenya drove out into the bush so that I could find

out into the bush so that I could find

out into the bush so that I could find the poachers and I could ask them and

the poachers and I could ask them and

the poachers and I could ask them and yes that is probably the craziest thing

yes that is probably the craziest thing

yes that is probably the craziest thing I’ve ever done going 50 miles from the

I’ve ever done going 50 miles from the

I’ve ever done going 50 miles from the nearest town to confront guys with guns

nearest town to confront guys with guns

nearest town to confront guys with guns and demand to know why they were doing

and demand to know why they were doing

and demand to know why they were doing what they did first I’d like to

what they did first I’d like to

what they did first I’d like to introduce you to nanu ki who is one of

introduce you to nanu ki who is one of

introduce you to nanu ki who is one of Kenya’s most notorious poachers good I

Kenya’s most notorious poachers good I

Kenya’s most notorious poachers good I get all my year and that’s all I don’t

get all my year and that’s all I don’t

get all my year and that’s all I don’t know exactly how many elephants are

know exactly how many elephants are

know exactly how many elephants are killed it’s around 1500 I knew they were

killed it’s around 1500 I knew they were

killed it’s around 1500 I knew they were looking to arrest me so I fled into the

looking to arrest me so I fled into the

looking to arrest me so I fled into the bush by hitting the bush for 18 months

bush by hitting the bush for 18 months

bush by hitting the bush for 18 months if something was made of me I would kill

if something was made of me I would kill

if something was made of me I would kill it the village elders came out to find

it the village elders came out to find

it the village elders came out to find me I had killed a lot of elephants and

me I had killed a lot of elephants and

me I had killed a lot of elephants and they asked me to stop so I asked how can

they asked me to stop so I asked how can

they asked me to stop so I asked how can I survive if I stop poaching I have

I survive if I stop poaching I have

I survive if I stop poaching I have nothing people who live in the towns can

nothing people who live in the towns can

nothing people who live in the towns can borrow food or money from someone but

borrow food or money from someone but

borrow food or money from someone but out where I’m from you can’t so many

out where I’m from you can’t so many

out where I’m from you can’t so many people there are poaching I see people

people there are poaching I see people

people there are poaching I see people who are poaching are getting a lot of

who are poaching are getting a lot of

who are poaching are getting a lot of money they could afford to buy cows and

money they could afford to buy cows and

money they could afford to buy cows and goats you probably have guessed but the

goats you probably have guessed but the

goats you probably have guessed but the name nin Yuki is an alias it’s actually

name nin Yuki is an alias it’s actually

name nin Yuki is an alias it’s actually the name of a town in Kenya near where

the name of a town in Kenya near where

the name of a town in Kenya near where he operates

he operates

he operates Kenya so nanu key was on Kenya’s

Kenya so nanu key was on Kenya’s

Kenya so nanu key was on Kenya’s most-wanted list for a number of years

most-wanted list for a number of years

most-wanted list for a number of years the police and several patrols out into

the police and several patrols out into

the police and several patrols out into the wild to try and catch him and they

the wild to try and catch him and they

the wild to try and catch him and they never did next I’d like to introduce

never did next I’d like to introduce

never did next I’d like to introduce Olesya

Olesya

Olesya protip for all your filmmakers out there

protip for all your filmmakers out there

protip for all your filmmakers out there if you’re dealing with people who speak

if you’re dealing with people who speak

if you’re dealing with people who speak languages that are difficult for English

languages that are difficult for English

languages that are difficult for English maybe don’t let them choose their own

maybe don’t let them choose their own

maybe don’t let them choose their own aliases anyway so we’ve all seen these

aliases anyway so we’ve all seen these

aliases anyway so we’ve all seen these photos of these poachers of these

photos of these poachers of these

photos of these poachers of these hunters coming from the United States

hunters coming from the United States

hunters coming from the United States and Europe posing with their big kills

and Europe posing with their big kills

and Europe posing with their big kills boasting about how difficult and

boasting about how difficult and

boasting about how difficult and dangerous it is but I is going to dispel

dangerous it is but I is going to dispel

dangerous it is but I is going to dispel some of those myths let’s wind to help

some of those myths let’s wind to help

some of those myths let’s wind to help wind whichever way the wind blows it’s

wind whichever way the wind blows it’s

wind whichever way the wind blows it’s much easier to give the short in so

much easier to give the short in so

much easier to give the short in so unfortunately wildlife is incredibly

unfortunately wildlife is incredibly

unfortunately wildlife is incredibly easy to track and kill now I should

easy to track and kill now I should

easy to track and kill now I should mention that poaching looks very

mention that poaching looks very

mention that poaching looks very different in different parts of the

different in different parts of the

different in different parts of the world in South Africa for example these

world in South Africa for example these

world in South Africa for example these are generally paramilitary operations

are generally paramilitary operations

are generally paramilitary operations that are done with ex-military working

that are done with ex-military working

that are done with ex-military working out of helicopters and using

out of helicopters and using

out of helicopters and using high-powered automatic weapons however

high-powered automatic weapons however

high-powered automatic weapons however in East Africa it’s driven by poverty

in East Africa it’s driven by poverty

in East Africa it’s driven by poverty poaching is about economics in a country

poaching is about economics in a country

poaching is about economics in a country where unemployment unemployment can

where unemployment unemployment can

where unemployment unemployment can reach up to 40 percent in times of

reach up to 40 percent in times of

reach up to 40 percent in times of political unrest or recession even in

political unrest or recession even in

political unrest or recession even in the best of times roughly 42 percent of

the best of times roughly 42 percent of

the best of times roughly 42 percent of the population lives on less than $3 a

the population lives on less than $3 a

the population lives on less than $3 a day

day

day Nanook II and olesya as well as other

Nanook II and olesya as well as other

Nanook II and olesya as well as other poachers I interviewed all knew that

poachers I interviewed all knew that

poachers I interviewed all knew that hunting wildlife was wrong yet they

hunting wildlife was wrong yet they

hunting wildlife was wrong yet they continued to do it why I’ll let always

continued to do it why I’ll let always

continued to do it why I’ll let always say so you explain what happens after

say so you explain what happens after

say so you explain what happens after he’s killed an elephant i Cindy

he’s killed an elephant i Cindy

he’s killed an elephant i Cindy to the somalis they pay about $36 per

to the somalis they pay about $36 per

to the somalis they pay about $36 per pound I don’t know what they do with it

pound I don’t know what they do with it

pound I don’t know what they do with it my job and that’s where it stops from $3

my job and that’s where it stops from $3

my job and that’s where it stops from $3 a day to a quick $800 you can see why

a day to a quick $800 you can see why

a day to a quick $800 you can see why someone might want to take a shot this

someone might want to take a shot this

someone might want to take a shot this is worth almost a year’s wages in this

is worth almost a year’s wages in this

is worth almost a year’s wages in this part of the world now here in the

part of the world now here in the

part of the world now here in the developed world we tend to see these

developed world we tend to see these

developed world we tend to see these animals this wildlife as cute or

animals this wildlife as cute or

animals this wildlife as cute or majestic we make animated films about

majestic we make animated films about

majestic we make animated films about their adventures we also see them as

their adventures we also see them as

their adventures we also see them as part of our environmental heritage but

part of our environmental heritage but

part of our environmental heritage but for rural Kenyans one elephant can eat

for rural Kenyans one elephant can eat

for rural Kenyans one elephant can eat the entire crop of a small farmer in

the entire crop of a small farmer in

the entire crop of a small farmer in just one night

just one night

just one night lions kill livestock and sometimes

lions kill livestock and sometimes

lions kill livestock and sometimes people these animals are more often

people these animals are more often

people these animals are more often viewed as pests every year we give 10

viewed as pests every year we give 10

viewed as pests every year we give 10 million tens of millions of dollars to

million tens of millions of dollars to

million tens of millions of dollars to protecting wildlife in Kenya alone we

protecting wildlife in Kenya alone we

protecting wildlife in Kenya alone we surround these animals with electric

surround these animals with electric

surround these animals with electric fences we watched them from spotter

fences we watched them from spotter

fences we watched them from spotter planes and High Rocks and when there’s

planes and High Rocks and when there’s

planes and High Rocks and when there’s an intruder we send armed guards and

an intruder we send armed guards and

an intruder we send armed guards and bloodhounds after them but until we

bloodhounds after them but until we

bloodhounds after them but until we change these economics there’s always

change these economics there’s always

change these economics there’s always going to be the next person in line

going to be the next person in line

going to be the next person in line waiting to take that shot so what can we

waiting to take that shot so what can we

waiting to take that shot so what can we do if we want to change poaching in

do if we want to change poaching in

do if we want to change poaching in Africa we in the developed world all of

Africa we in the developed world all of

Africa we in the developed world all of us in this room need to change too we

us in this room need to change too we

us in this room need to change too we need to change our mindsets from seeing

need to change our mindsets from seeing

need to change our mindsets from seeing this as a simple abstract evil to human

this as a simple abstract evil to human

this as a simple abstract evil to human beings we need to add a holistic side to

beings we need to add a holistic side to

beings we need to add a holistic side to our conservation efforts that recognizes

our conservation efforts that recognizes

our conservation efforts that recognizes that these people are part of the same

that these people are part of the same

that these people are part of the same environment that we’re trying to protect

environment that we’re trying to protect

environment that we’re trying to protect the poachers themselves see how this

the poachers themselves see how this

the poachers themselves see how this change can work diamond buyer I have

change can work diamond buyer I have

change can work diamond buyer I have four daughters

I usually don’t get into coaching so I’m

I usually don’t get into coaching so I’m not worried about that education is the

not worried about that education is the

not worried about that education is the key they need to know that if you stay

key they need to know that if you stay

key they need to know that if you stay in them all the way through job you can

in them all the way through job you can

in them all the way through job you can be a tour guide a ranger

be a tour guide a ranger

be a tour guide a ranger but you have to stay in school the best

but you have to stay in school the best

but you have to stay in school the best scenario that I encountered while I was

scenario that I encountered while I was

scenario that I encountered while I was there

there

there nayuki actually turns himself in to the

nayuki actually turns himself in to the

nayuki actually turns himself in to the authorities imagine that he turned

authorities imagine that he turned

authorities imagine that he turned himself in because his life was unstable

himself in because his life was unstable

himself in because his life was unstable and his kids were not in school

and his kids were not in school

and his kids were not in school letting him it I can only I’ve been

letting him it I can only I’ve been

letting him it I can only I’ve been arranging for five years yes I was a

arranging for five years yes I was a

arranging for five years yes I was a poacher I’m a good man I can show my

poacher I’m a good man I can show my

poacher I’m a good man I can show my patrol where poachers can hide and

patrol where poachers can hide and

patrol where poachers can hide and that’s why I’m here out on patrol every

that’s why I’m here out on patrol every

that’s why I’m here out on patrol every morning now when I come across an animal

morning now when I come across an animal

morning now when I come across an animal that’s been killed I use my experience

that’s been killed I use my experience

that’s been killed I use my experience and track down the killer until he’s

and track down the killer until he’s

and track down the killer until he’s arrested or killed Danny he’s now been a

arrested or killed Danny he’s now been a

arrested or killed Danny he’s now been a ranger for several years his kids go to

ranger for several years his kids go to

ranger for several years his kids go to attend school regularly and he’s made a

attend school regularly and he’s made a

attend school regularly and he’s made a better life for himself and his family

better life for himself and his family

better life for himself and his family even as he helps track down guys just

even as he helps track down guys just

even as he helps track down guys just like he used to be how can we those of

like he used to be how can we those of

like he used to be how can we those of us here help move more people like nanoo

us here help move more people like nanoo

us here help move more people like nanoo key out of poaching and into legitimate

key out of poaching and into legitimate

key out of poaching and into legitimate jobs there are two simple things that we

jobs there are two simple things that we

jobs there are two simple things that we can actually do right now

can actually do right now

can actually do right now first and most obviously we as a culture

first and most obviously we as a culture

first and most obviously we as a culture need to stop buying endangered animal

need to stop buying endangered animal

need to stop buying endangered animal products its supply and demand but that

products its supply and demand but that

products its supply and demand but that demand starts here it’s no secret that

demand starts here it’s no secret that

demand starts here it’s no secret that most ivory and rhino horn goes to Asia

most ivory and rhino horn goes to Asia

most ivory and rhino horn goes to Asia but the reality is that most people

but the reality is that most people

but the reality is that most people there can’t actually afford to buy it

there can’t actually afford to buy it

there can’t actually afford to buy it these products are intended for Western

these products are intended for Western

these products are intended for Western tourists this summer two tons of ivory

tourists this summer two tons of ivory

tourists this summer two tons of ivory that work that were confiscated in New

that work that were confiscated in New

that work that were confiscated in New York were crushed in Central Park to

York were crushed in Central Park to

York were crushed in Central Park to make it unusable the street value of

make it unusable the street value of

make it unusable the street value of that ivory was nearly eight million

that ivory was nearly eight million

that ivory was nearly eight million dollars just this week the Trump

dollars just this week the Trump

dollars just this week the Trump administration moved to allow hunters to

administration moved to allow hunters to

administration moved to allow hunters to bring back ivory trophies from Africa

bring back ivory trophies from Africa

bring back ivory trophies from Africa as Wayne Purcell if the president of the

as Wayne Purcell if the president of the

as Wayne Purcell if the president of the Humane Society put it what kind of

Humane Society put it what kind of

Humane Society put it what kind of message does it send that a poor African

message does it send that a poor African

message does it send that a poor African struggling to survive can’t hunt an

struggling to survive can’t hunt an

struggling to survive can’t hunt an elephant to earn a living but it’s just

elephant to earn a living but it’s just

elephant to earn a living but it’s just fine for a rich American the second

fine for a rich American the second

fine for a rich American the second thing that we can do is recognize that

thing that we can do is recognize that

thing that we can do is recognize that not all game preserves are created equal

not all game preserves are created equal

not all game preserves are created equal some like the label Wildlife Conservancy

some like the label Wildlife Conservancy

some like the label Wildlife Conservancy supports 21 schools in its region as

supports 21 schools in its region as

supports 21 schools in its region as well as fresh water supplies and medical

well as fresh water supplies and medical

well as fresh water supplies and medical and medical clinics they also provide

and medical clinics they also provide

and medical clinics they also provide 400 scholarships in a country where

400 scholarships in a country where

400 scholarships in a country where education is not free to all these

education is not free to all these

education is not free to all these clinics and schools not only create jobs

clinics and schools not only create jobs

clinics and schools not only create jobs but they allow the larger community to

but they allow the larger community to

but they allow the larger community to recognize that wildlife brings economic

recognize that wildlife brings economic

recognize that wildlife brings economic value to their people the reason that

value to their people the reason that

value to their people the reason that anuki surrendered himself to the

anuki surrendered himself to the

anuki surrendered himself to the authorities that laila specifically was

authorities that laila specifically was

authorities that laila specifically was because of the schools there from Hunter

because of the schools there from Hunter

because of the schools there from Hunter to homebody now new keys change was

to homebody now new keys change was

to homebody now new keys change was profound now I’m grounded

profound now I’m grounded

profound now I’m grounded I owned his Monyetta you were able to

I owned his Monyetta you were able to

I owned his Monyetta you were able to find me here and visit because I have a

find me here and visit because I have a

find me here and visit because I have a home my life has changed completely in a

home my life has changed completely in a

home my life has changed completely in a good way now my children have a school

good way now my children have a school

good way now my children have a school in the area to go to but I was thinking

in the area to go to but I was thinking

in the area to go to but I was thinking not only about the animals but about the

not only about the animals but about the

not only about the animals but about the environment and living in peace and what

environment and living in peace and what

environment and living in peace and what about all it says here the reason he

about all it says here the reason he

about all it says here the reason he agreed to be interviewed by me was he

agreed to be interviewed by me was he

agreed to be interviewed by me was he wanted to show the authorities that he

wanted to show the authorities that he

wanted to show the authorities that he was serious about making a change and

was serious about making a change and

was serious about making a change and becoming a ranger like nan Yuki so the

becoming a ranger like nan Yuki so the

becoming a ranger like nan Yuki so the next time you hear another grim

next time you hear another grim

next time you hear another grim statistic about the decline of our

statistic about the decline of our

statistic about the decline of our species I hope that you’ll remember nan

species I hope that you’ll remember nan

species I hope that you’ll remember nan Yuki Andalusia when I had my crazy

Yuki Andalusia when I had my crazy

Yuki Andalusia when I had my crazy mission to go to Africa and interview

mission to go to Africa and interview

mission to go to Africa and interview poachers what I learned was that their

poachers what I learned was that their

poachers what I learned was that their actions didn’t come out of nowhere

actions didn’t come out of nowhere

actions didn’t come out of nowhere they’re motivated by the same pressures

they’re motivated by the same pressures

they’re motivated by the same pressures we all face pressures of money of owning

we all face pressures of money of owning

we all face pressures of money of owning a home of getting a decent job and of

a home of getting a decent job and of

a home of getting a decent job and of raising the family if we want to get

raising the family if we want to get

raising the family if we want to get serious about saving wildlife we need to

serious about saving wildlife we need to

serious about saving wildlife we need to commit also to saving our poorest people

commit also to saving our poorest people

commit also to saving our poorest people next time when you donate for wildlife

next time when you donate for wildlife

next time when you donate for wildlife conservation

conservation

conservation and I think this week shows that it’s

and I think this week shows that it’s

and I think this week shows that it’s it’s more important now than ever please

it’s more important now than ever please

it’s more important now than ever please consider giving to organizations like

consider giving to organizations like

consider giving to organizations like Laila that also commit to supporting

Laila that also commit to supporting

Laila that also commit to supporting their communities

their communities

their communities helping men at risk of poaching get the

helping men at risk of poaching get the

helping men at risk of poaching get the education and the jobs they need maybe

education and the jobs they need maybe

education and the jobs they need maybe the best deterrent we have against

the best deterrent we have against

the best deterrent we have against future decline of wildlife in East

future decline of wildlife in East

future decline of wildlife in East Africa

Africa

Africa thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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