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No Student Should Be Afraid Of Learning | Dave Paunesku | TEDxSpokane


right after college I got hired to work

right after college I got hired to work as a software developer I was excited to

as a software developer I was excited to

as a software developer I was excited to be starting my first real job but it was

be starting my first real job but it was

be starting my first real job but it was also pretty nervous because I had

also pretty nervous because I had

also pretty nervous because I had absolutely no coding skills I was

absolutely no coding skills I was

absolutely no coding skills I was expected to learn on the job I was

expected to learn on the job I was

expected to learn on the job I was prepared for that to be intellectually

prepared for that to be intellectually

prepared for that to be intellectually difficult however I wasn’t prepared for

difficult however I wasn’t prepared for

difficult however I wasn’t prepared for it to be so emotionally difficult for

it to be so emotionally difficult for

it to be so emotionally difficult for the first time in my life I was

the first time in my life I was

the first time in my life I was consistently underperforming I mean like

consistently underperforming I mean like

consistently underperforming I mean like really underperforming and after a while

really underperforming and after a while

really underperforming and after a while I started to be afraid to ask questions

I started to be afraid to ask questions

I started to be afraid to ask questions because when I did my co-worker would

because when I did my co-worker would

because when I did my co-worker would get visibly annoyed and she’d actually

get visibly annoyed and she’d actually

get visibly annoyed and she’d actually roll her eyes at me so after months and

roll her eyes at me so after months and

roll her eyes at me so after months and months of this I started to doubt

months of this I started to doubt

months of this I started to doubt whether I could ever become a competent

whether I could ever become a competent

whether I could ever become a competent coder I started to feel anxious and

coder I started to feel anxious and

coder I started to feel anxious and ashamed every time I sat down on my dust

ashamed every time I sat down on my dust

ashamed every time I sat down on my dust to code so naturally I did everything I

to code so naturally I did everything I

to code so naturally I did everything I could to avoid coding I clocked out as

could to avoid coding I clocked out as

could to avoid coding I clocked out as early as I could I came in took extra

early as I could I came in took extra

early as I could I came in took extra long bathroom breaks just to be away

long bathroom breaks just to be away

long bathroom breaks just to be away from my desk in other words because of

from my desk in other words because of

from my desk in other words because of my anxieties about coding I spent less

my anxieties about coding I spent less

my anxieties about coding I spent less and less time actually learning how to

and less time actually learning how to

and less time actually learning how to code and more and more of my time for

code and more and more of my time for

code and more and more of my time for crass donating or hiding out in the

crass donating or hiding out in the

crass donating or hiding out in the bathroom

so you know after months and months of

so you know after months and months of this I really became you know I became

this I really became you know I became

this I really became you know I became really you know upset and eventually I

really you know upset and eventually I

really you know upset and eventually I quit and but then after I quit and I

quit and but then after I quit and I

quit and but then after I quit and I started a new job at a different office

started a new job at a different office

started a new job at a different office something really surprising happened in

something really surprising happened in

something really surprising happened in this new workplace the work felt a lot

this new workplace the work felt a lot

this new workplace the work felt a lot more collaborative I never once felt

more collaborative I never once felt

more collaborative I never once felt stigmatized for not all right not

stigmatized for not all right not

stigmatized for not all right not already knowing how to do something and

already knowing how to do something and

already knowing how to do something and in a matter of weeks

in a matter of weeks

in a matter of weeks Kody went for being a source of shame

Kody went for being a source of shame

Kody went for being a source of shame and anxiety that I had avoided to being

and anxiety that I had avoided to being

and anxiety that I had avoided to being a source of pride and fulfillment that I

a source of pride and fulfillment that I

a source of pride and fulfillment that I sought out I was no longer clocking out

sought out I was no longer clocking out

sought out I was no longer clocking out early on taking extra long bathroom

early on taking extra long bathroom

early on taking extra long bathroom breaks instead I was glued to my desk

breaks instead I was glued to my desk

breaks instead I was glued to my desk and taking extra work home with me

and taking extra work home with me

and taking extra work home with me somehow in this new environment I had

somehow in this new environment I had

somehow in this new environment I had been transformed as a learner from

been transformed as a learner from

been transformed as a learner from someone who had fearfully avoided

someone who had fearfully avoided

someone who had fearfully avoided challenges into someone who fearlessly

challenges into someone who fearlessly

challenges into someone who fearlessly embraced challenges now I don’t think my

embraced challenges now I don’t think my

embraced challenges now I don’t think my story is unique or even rare to the

story is unique or even rare to the

story is unique or even rare to the contrary research shows that the

contrary research shows that the

contrary research shows that the environments in which we study and work

environments in which we study and work

environments in which we study and work can have a profound impact on the way we

can have a profound impact on the way we

can have a profound impact on the way we approach learning on the one hand they

approach learning on the one hand they

approach learning on the one hand they can make us fearfully avoid learning

can make us fearfully avoid learning

can make us fearfully avoid learning challenges well on the other hand they

challenges well on the other hand they

challenges well on the other hand they can help us fearlessly embrace learning

can help us fearlessly embrace learning

can help us fearlessly embrace learning challenges now researchers have long

challenges now researchers have long

challenges now researchers have long known about this but the implications of

known about this but the implications of

known about this but the implications of this research are becoming ever more

this research are becoming ever more

this research are becoming ever more important because learning is becoming

important because learning is becoming

important because learning is becoming ever more central to professional

ever more central to professional

ever more central to professional survival for example over the last

survival for example over the last

survival for example over the last thirty years the share of jobs across

thirty years the share of jobs across

thirty years the share of jobs across the US economy that requires

the US economy that requires

the US economy that requires post-secondary training has more than

post-secondary training has more than

post-secondary training has more than doubled and most economists expect the

doubled and most economists expect the

doubled and most economists expect the importance of learning but only continue

importance of learning but only continue

importance of learning but only continue to grow as time as more and more jobs or

to grow as time as more and more jobs or

to grow as time as more and more jobs or automated out of existence while many

automated out of existence while many

automated out of existence while many others are changed beyond recognition so

others are changed beyond recognition so

others are changed beyond recognition so this begs the question are we preparing

this begs the question are we preparing

this begs the question are we preparing our young people for this future are our

our young people for this future are our

our young people for this future are our schools inspiring them to fearlessly

schools inspiring them to fearlessly

schools inspiring them to fearlessly embrace learning on an unprecedented

embrace learning on an unprecedented

embrace learning on an unprecedented scale as clearly they will need to do

scale as clearly they will need to do

scale as clearly they will need to do well the data don’t look terribly

well the data don’t look terribly

well the data don’t look terribly promising according to Gallup where’s

promising according to Gallup where’s

promising according to Gallup where’s three-quarters of grade school students

three-quarters of grade school students

three-quarters of grade school students start out being engaged with school by

start out being engaged with school by

start out being engaged with school by the time students reach 10th grade 2/3

the time students reach 10th grade 2/3

the time students reach 10th grade 2/3 of them have become disengaged

of them have become disengaged

of them have become disengaged two-thirds of them that’s that’s 2.5

two-thirds of them that’s that’s 2.5

two-thirds of them that’s that’s 2.5 million tenth graders who are turning

million tenth graders who are turning

million tenth graders who are turning away from learning why are so many young

away from learning why are so many young

away from learning why are so many young people turning away from learning and

people turning away from learning and

people turning away from learning and what do we need to do differently to

what do we need to do differently to

what do we need to do differently to help them embrace learning instead well

help them embrace learning instead well

help them embrace learning instead well over the last nine years other than a

over the last nine years other than a

over the last nine years other than a member of a growing community of

member of a growing community of

member of a growing community of researchers and educators who are

researchers and educators who are

researchers and educators who are committed to answering this question we

committed to answering this question we

committed to answering this question we think it’s essential to figure out how

think it’s essential to figure out how

think it’s essential to figure out how we need to reshape our schools in order

we need to reshape our schools in order

we need to reshape our schools in order to make sure that young people become

to make sure that young people become

to make sure that young people become fearless learners who embrace learning

fearless learners who embrace learning

fearless learners who embrace learning and are prepared to go into learning

and are prepared to go into learning

and are prepared to go into learning filled careers that challenge and

filled careers that challenge and

filled careers that challenge and invigorate them what we’re learning

invigorate them what we’re learning

invigorate them what we’re learning though is that all too often our

though is that all too often our

though is that all too often our well-intentioned actions as parents or

well-intentioned actions as parents or

well-intentioned actions as parents or as educators have just the opposite

as educators have just the opposite

as educators have just the opposite consequence all too often we do things

consequence all too often we do things

consequence all too often we do things delete students to be afraid of

delete students to be afraid of

delete students to be afraid of challenging themselves instead of

challenging themselves instead of

challenging themselves instead of helping them fearlessly embrace a

helping them fearlessly embrace a

helping them fearlessly embrace a challenge I’d like to tell you quickly

challenge I’d like to tell you quickly

challenge I’d like to tell you quickly about a study that showed just how this

about a study that showed just how this

about a study that showed just how this can happen

can happen

can happen it’s a now-famous study from 1998

it’s a now-famous study from 1998

it’s a now-famous study from 1998 conducted by Claudia Mueller and Carol

conducted by Claudia Mueller and Carol

conducted by Claudia Mueller and Carol Dweck

Dweck

Dweck in their study the researchers asked 128

in their study the researchers asked 128

in their study the researchers asked 128 fifth graders to complete some logic

fifth graders to complete some logic

fifth graders to complete some logic problems and after the first round the

problems and after the first round the

problems and after the first round the problems they asked all the students are

problems they asked all the students are

problems they asked all the students are they they congratulated all the students

they they congratulated all the students

they they congratulated all the students on a job well done

on a job well done

on a job well done they praised them for their performance

they praised them for their performance

they praised them for their performance but they praised them in an importantly

but they praised them in an importantly

but they praised them in an importantly different ways so they praised some

different ways so they praised some

different ways so they praised some students for their effort they said wow

students for their effort they said wow

students for their effort they said wow you did really well you must have worked

you did really well you must have worked

you did really well you must have worked hard on those problems they praised

hard on those problems they praised

hard on those problems they praised other students for their intelligence

other students for their intelligence

other students for their intelligence they said wow you did really well you

they said wow you did really well you

they said wow you did really well you must be smart to those problems and then

must be smart to those problems and then

must be smart to those problems and then the researchers gave all the students an

the researchers gave all the students an

the researchers gave all the students an option about while they’re in a

option about while they’re in a

option about while they’re in a subsequent round of problems they would

subsequent round of problems they would

subsequent round of problems they would rather do some more challenging problems

rather do some more challenging problems

rather do some more challenging problems or some easier problems well the kids

or some easier problems well the kids

or some easier problems well the kids who had been praised for their effort

who had been praised for their effort

who had been praised for their effort object for the harder problems 92% of

object for the harder problems 92% of

object for the harder problems 92% of the time they weren’t afraid to

the time they weren’t afraid to

the time they weren’t afraid to challenge themselves those who’ve been

challenge themselves those who’ve been

challenge themselves those who’ve been praised for their intelligence only

praised for their intelligence only

praised for their intelligence only opted for the harder problems 33% of the

opted for the harder problems 33% of the

opted for the harder problems 33% of the time they prefer to avoid the challenge

time they prefer to avoid the challenge

time they prefer to avoid the challenge and it’s because for them those

and it’s because for them those

and it’s because for them those challenging problems were frightening

challenging problems were frightening

challenging problems were frightening they carried a risk after all if doing

they carried a risk after all if doing

they carried a risk after all if doing well on the easy problems had meant that

well on the easy problems had meant that

well on the easy problems had meant that they were smart well then what are they

they were smart well then what are they

they were smart well then what are they struggled what do they got more of the

struggled what do they got more of the

struggled what do they got more of the hard problems wrong

hard problems wrong

hard problems wrong well then presumably that would mean oh

well then presumably that would mean oh

well then presumably that would mean oh they’re dumb in this way this seemingly

they’re dumb in this way this seemingly

they’re dumb in this way this seemingly benign this well-intentioned compliment

benign this well-intentioned compliment

benign this well-intentioned compliment injected fear into an otherwise fawn

injected fear into an otherwise fawn

injected fear into an otherwise fawn learning situation it made the students

learning situation it made the students

learning situation it made the students afraid to challenge themselves instead

afraid to challenge themselves instead

afraid to challenge themselves instead of helping them fearlessly embrace a

of helping them fearlessly embrace a

of helping them fearlessly embrace a challenge now when I first learned about

challenge now when I first learned about

challenge now when I first learned about this research it really struck a chord

this research it really struck a chord

this research it really struck a chord because I recognized that similar fears

because I recognized that similar fears

because I recognized that similar fears had gotten in the way of my own learning

had gotten in the way of my own learning

had gotten in the way of my own learning the fears of looking domme had to cut me

the fears of looking domme had to cut me

the fears of looking domme had to cut me from taking certain hard classes in high

from taking certain hard classes in high

from taking certain hard classes in high school in college that they had also

school in college that they had also

school in college that they had also kept me from asking questions which

kept me from asking questions which

kept me from asking questions which without a doubt would have accelerated

without a doubt would have accelerated

without a doubt would have accelerated my learning and as I reflected on this

my learning and as I reflected on this

my learning and as I reflected on this it started to dawn on me that there was

it started to dawn on me that there was

it started to dawn on me that there was a tragedy playing out in schools all

a tragedy playing out in schools all

a tragedy playing out in schools all across the world but students millions

across the world but students millions

across the world but students millions of students were turning away from

of students were turning away from

of students were turning away from learning not because they were lazy not

learning not because they were lazy not

learning not because they were lazy not because they were on interested but

because they were on interested but

because they were on interested but rather because of fears because they

rather because of fears because they

rather because of fears because they were learning in environments that made

were learning in environments that made

were learning in environments that made them afraid to challenge themselves

them afraid to challenge themselves

them afraid to challenge themselves well this seemed like a really tragic

well this seemed like a really tragic

well this seemed like a really tragic waste of human potential to me and I

waste of human potential to me and I

waste of human potential to me and I felt really compelled to do something

felt really compelled to do something

felt really compelled to do something about it but it wasn’t sure what so I

about it but it wasn’t sure what so I

about it but it wasn’t sure what so I packed my bags in Chicago where I lived

packed my bags in Chicago where I lived

packed my bags in Chicago where I lived at the time and I had it for Stanford

at the time and I had it for Stanford

at the time and I had it for Stanford University at Stanford I worked with

University at Stanford I worked with

University at Stanford I worked with Carol Dweck and Greg Walton and working

Carol Dweck and Greg Walton and working

Carol Dweck and Greg Walton and working with the two of them I learned a great

with the two of them I learned a great

with the two of them I learned a great deal about the factors and empower

deal about the factors and empower

deal about the factors and empower students to fearlessly embrace learning

students to fearlessly embrace learning

students to fearlessly embrace learning as well as about the fears that get in

as well as about the fears that get in

as well as about the fears that get in the way of learning and the more I

the way of learning and the more I

the way of learning and the more I learned the more troubled I became that

learned the more troubled I became that

learned the more troubled I became that this these profound psychological

this these profound psychological

this these profound psychological insights that I was learning as a

insights that I was learning as a

insights that I was learning as a graduate student were all too often

graduate student were all too often

graduate student were all too often locked away in academic journals outside

locked away in academic journals outside

locked away in academic journals outside the reach of the parents and educators

the reach of the parents and educators

the reach of the parents and educators who most needed to know them who most

who most needed to know them who most

who most needed to know them who most needed to apply them so he found that a

needed to apply them so he found that a

needed to apply them so he found that a new Center at Stanford called PERTs the

new Center at Stanford called PERTs the

new Center at Stanford called PERTs the project for education research at scales

project for education research at scales

project for education research at scales and approach we work we work to bridge

and approach we work we work to bridge

and approach we work we work to bridge this gap to help educators learn and

this gap to help educators learn and

this gap to help educators learn and apply these psychological insights so

apply these psychological insights so

apply these psychological insights so that they can create learning

that they can create learning

that they can create learning environments that inspire fearless

environments that inspire fearless

environments that inspire fearless learning rather than fear of learning

learning rather than fear of learning

learning rather than fear of learning now we do this in a number of different

now we do this in a number of different

now we do this in a number of different ways I’m just going to tell you about

ways I’m just going to tell you about

ways I’m just going to tell you about two first we hope educators dispel the

two first we hope educators dispel the

two first we hope educators dispel the harmful myth that intelligence is

harmful myth that intelligence is

harmful myth that intelligence is something fixed about us that it’s

something fixed about us that it’s

something fixed about us that it’s something like eye color and we’re doing

something like eye color and we’re doing

something like eye color and we’re doing that because countless studies show that

that because countless studies show that

that because countless studies show that students are more likely to challenge

students are more likely to challenge

students are more likely to challenge themselves and more likely to learn a

themselves and more likely to learn a

themselves and more likely to learn a lot and do well in school once they

lot and do well in school once they

lot and do well in school once they understand that their intelligence is

understand that their intelligence is

understand that their intelligence is actually something they can grow once

actually something they can grow once

actually something they can grow once they have what researchers call a growth

they have what researchers call a growth

they have what researchers call a growth mindset and with support from

mindset and with support from

mindset and with support from philanthropists and from government

philanthropists and from government

philanthropists and from government agencies we’re helping thousands of

agencies we’re helping thousands of

agencies we’re helping thousands of schools all across the world learn and

schools all across the world learn and

schools all across the world learn and apply that these ideas so that they can

apply that these ideas so that they can

apply that these ideas so that they can foster a growth mindset among their

foster a growth mindset among their

foster a growth mindset among their students we’re also helping teachers

students we’re also helping teachers

students we’re also helping teachers cultivate secure relationships with in

cultivate secure relationships with in

cultivate secure relationships with in between their students relationships

between their students relationships

between their students relationships that help their students feel that

that help their students feel that

that help their students feel that they’re a valued member of an academic

they’re a valued member of an academic

they’re a valued member of an academic community feel like they belong this is

community feel like they belong this is

community feel like they belong this is critically important because these

critically important because these

critically important because these relationships form the foundation for

relationships form the foundation for

relationships form the foundation for fearless learning learning is an

fearless learning learning is an

fearless learning learning is an inherently vulnerable act it’s full of

inherently vulnerable act it’s full of

inherently vulnerable act it’s full of mistakes and struggles and missteps and

mistakes and struggles and missteps and

mistakes and struggles and missteps and it’s really hard to be vulnerable to put

it’s really hard to be vulnerable to put

it’s really hard to be vulnerable to put yourself out there

yourself out there

yourself out there in front of people who you don’t trust

in front of people who you don’t trust

in front of people who you don’t trust and for the people who roll their eyes

and for the people who roll their eyes

and for the people who roll their eyes at your mistakes now I’ll be the first

at your mistakes now I’ll be the first

at your mistakes now I’ll be the first to admit that it’s a lot of work it’d be

to admit that it’s a lot of work it’d be

to admit that it’s a lot of work it’d be really hard to make an environment in

really hard to make an environment in

really hard to make an environment in which all students feel like they belong

which all students feel like they belong

which all students feel like they belong which all students feel like they can

which all students feel like they can

which all students feel like they can grow we’re not convinced it’s worth the

grow we’re not convinced it’s worth the

grow we’re not convinced it’s worth the effort because no student should live in

effort because no student should live in

effort because no student should live in fear of learning I also known it’s

fear of learning I also known it’s

fear of learning I also known it’s possible because I’ve seen firsthand the

possible because I’ve seen firsthand the

possible because I’ve seen firsthand the kind of magic that happens when teachers

kind of magic that happens when teachers

kind of magic that happens when teachers do the successfully when they create

do the successfully when they create

do the successfully when they create environments and which students can

environments and which students can

environments and which students can really learn fearlessly I was like to

really learn fearlessly I was like to

really learn fearlessly I was like to tell you about one educator that does

tell you about one educator that does

tell you about one educator that does this really Wow

this really Wow

this really Wow her name is Muriel trades and she’s a

her name is Muriel trades and she’s a

her name is Muriel trades and she’s a high school math teacher in San

high school math teacher in San

high school math teacher in San Francisco after each test and Muriel’s

Francisco after each test and Muriel’s

Francisco after each test and Muriel’s 9th grade math class she asked for a

9th grade math class she asked for a

9th grade math class she asked for a volunteer to go up to the front of the

volunteer to go up to the front of the

volunteer to go up to the front of the room and share a mistake they had made

room and share a mistake they had made

room and share a mistake they had made on the previous test with all of their

on the previous test with all of their

on the previous test with all of their classmates I imagined your high school

classmates I imagined your high school

classmates I imagined your high school math teacher asking for a volunteer to

math teacher asking for a volunteer to

math teacher asking for a volunteer to go up to the front of the room and talk

go up to the front of the room and talk

go up to the front of the room and talk about a mistake they had made when I

about a mistake they had made when I

about a mistake they had made when I imagined that I see a roomful of

imagined that I see a roomful of

imagined that I see a roomful of students trying to look as small as

students trying to look as small as

students trying to look as small as possible

possible

possible invisible ideally less their teacher

invisible ideally less their teacher

invisible ideally less their teacher call on them but in Mario’s class going

call on them but in Mario’s class going

call on them but in Mario’s class going up in the overhead is an opportunity

up in the overhead is an opportunity

up in the overhead is an opportunity that students fight over they are not

that students fight over they are not

that students fight over they are not afraid to struggle in front of their

afraid to struggle in front of their

afraid to struggle in front of their peers and is because Muriel has done two

peers and is because Muriel has done two

peers and is because Muriel has done two important things first Reese created an

important things first Reese created an

important things first Reese created an environment of trust and collaboration

environment of trust and collaboration

environment of trust and collaboration between our students and second trees

between our students and second trees

between our students and second trees help their students internalize the

help their students internalize the

help their students internalize the critical lesson that you learn far more

critical lesson that you learn far more

critical lesson that you learn far more by confronting your mistakes than you do

by confronting your mistakes than you do

by confronting your mistakes than you do by hiding from them in this way Muriel

by hiding from them in this way Muriel

by hiding from them in this way Muriel is training our students to be fearless

is training our students to be fearless

is training our students to be fearless learners who can embrace the challenges

learners who can embrace the challenges

learners who can embrace the challenges that tomorrow will bring we need many

that tomorrow will bring we need many

that tomorrow will bring we need many more students to be trained at a similar

more students to be trained at a similar

more students to be trained at a similar way because in the coming years

way because in the coming years

way because in the coming years unprecedented numbers of us will need to

unprecedented numbers of us will need to

unprecedented numbers of us will need to learn throughout our careers that can

learn throughout our careers that can

learn throughout our careers that can only happen if we help each other

only happen if we help each other

only happen if we help each other transcend the anxieties that keep us

transcend the anxieties that keep us

transcend the anxieties that keep us from learning if you reshape our schools

from learning if you reshape our schools

from learning if you reshape our schools and our workplaces so they inspire

and our workplaces so they inspire

and our workplaces so they inspire fearless learning rather than fear of

fearless learning rather than fear of

fearless learning rather than fear of learning now one of my mentors worked at

learning now one of my mentors worked at

learning now one of my mentors worked at a school that worked really hard to

a school that worked really hard to

a school that worked really hard to create a space where all students feel

create a space where all students feel

create a space where all students feel like they belong and feel like they can

like they belong and feel like they can

like they belong and feel like they can grow he asked a new student there how is

grow he asked a new student there how is

grow he asked a new student there how is this school different in this school you

this school different in this school you

this school different in this school you were in last year

were in last year

were in last year the student told him everything is

the student told him everything is

the student told him everything is different here and my old school I felt

different here and my old school I felt

different here and my old school I felt dumb people told me I was stupid and I

dumb people told me I was stupid and I

dumb people told me I was stupid and I believe that here I know I can be smart

believe that here I know I can be smart

believe that here I know I can be smart if I try I know I’m not done

if I try I know I’m not done

if I try I know I’m not done clearly this school had a profound

clearly this school had a profound

clearly this school had a profound impact on him and if you’d like to think

impact on him and if you’d like to think

impact on him and if you’d like to think about what you can do to have a similar

about what you can do to have a similar

about what you can do to have a similar impact I urge you to start by thinking

impact I urge you to start by thinking

impact I urge you to start by thinking about the people in your home in your

about the people in your home in your

about the people in your home in your workplace in your school and ask

workplace in your school and ask

workplace in your school and ask yourself how can you make a space that

yourself how can you make a space that

yourself how can you make a space that makes each of them feel like they belong

makes each of them feel like they belong

makes each of them feel like they belong feel like they can grow how can you

feel like they can grow how can you

feel like they can grow how can you inspire them to fearlessly embrace

inspire them to fearlessly embrace

inspire them to fearlessly embrace learning thank you

learning thank you

learning thank you [Applause]

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