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Missing Conversations, a tool for innovation | James R. Barnes | TEDxWilmingtonSalon


noticing and having missing

noticing and having missing conversations can change your life and

conversations can change your life and

conversations can change your life and the life of those around you it can

the life of those around you it can

the life of those around you it can change you it is changing me I’ve been

change you it is changing me I’ve been

change you it is changing me I’ve been lucky enough to teach innovation for 15

lucky enough to teach innovation for 15

lucky enough to teach innovation for 15 years and I define it as acting on ideas

years and I define it as acting on ideas

years and I define it as acting on ideas for a purpose the purpose is important

for a purpose the purpose is important

for a purpose the purpose is important it doesn’t have to be global it doesn’t

it doesn’t have to be global it doesn’t

it doesn’t have to be global it doesn’t have to be huge but it does need to

have to be huge but it does need to

have to be huge but it does need to matter missing conversations are a great

matter missing conversations are a great

matter missing conversations are a great tool to start what I call a practice of

tool to start what I call a practice of

tool to start what I call a practice of individual innovation a tool to help you

individual innovation a tool to help you

individual innovation a tool to help you develop conversations about things that

develop conversations about things that

develop conversations about things that really matter I suggest starting close

really matter I suggest starting close

really matter I suggest starting close to home

to home

to home with conversations to build

with conversations to build

with conversations to build relationships with neighbors with

relationships with neighbors with

relationships with neighbors with co-workers and with family and even

co-workers and with family and even

co-workers and with family and even closer to home to think about your

closer to home to think about your

closer to home to think about your thinking and how it’s serving your

thinking and how it’s serving your

thinking and how it’s serving your purpose I hope today you’ll start at

purpose I hope today you’ll start at

purpose I hope today you’ll start at your own practice of individual

your own practice of individual

your own practice of individual innovation by thinking about and having

innovation by thinking about and having

innovation by thinking about and having your missing conversations what are your

your missing conversations what are your

your missing conversations what are your missing conversations well they might be

missing conversations well they might be

missing conversations well they might be conversations that are absolutely

conversations that are absolutely

conversations that are absolutely missing they’re the ones that we’re not

missing they’re the ones that we’re not

missing they’re the ones that we’re not having right now they also might be

having right now they also might be

having right now they also might be subconscious conversations and because

subconscious conversations and because

subconscious conversations and because they’re subconscious we don’t notice

they’re subconscious we don’t notice

they’re subconscious we don’t notice them let’s start by exploring the first

them let’s start by exploring the first

them let’s start by exploring the first kind conversations that are literally

kind conversations that are literally

kind conversations that are literally missing it’s July 15th 2016 you’re in my

missing it’s July 15th 2016 you’re in my

missing it’s July 15th 2016 you’re in my car were driving to work and I hit dial

car were driving to work and I hit dial

car were driving to work and I hit dial and call my sister Vicky in England she

and call my sister Vicky in England she

and call my sister Vicky in England she says hi and she’s accompanied by a

says hi and she’s accompanied by a

says hi and she’s accompanied by a cacophony of barking from her beloved

cacophony of barking from her beloved

cacophony of barking from her beloved dogs I greet the dogs and the barking

dogs I greet the dogs and the barking

dogs I greet the dogs and the barking dies down

dies down

dies down Vicky advises that she’s having a bad

Vicky advises that she’s having a bad

Vicky advises that she’s having a bad day today so I listened to her and I

day today so I listened to her and I

day today so I listened to her and I reminded that I love her and she feels a

reminded that I love her and she feels a

reminded that I love her and she feels a little better that we both feel better

little better that we both feel better

little better that we both feel better let’s leave that

let’s leave that

let’s leave that dori there and come back to it in a

dori there and come back to it in a

dori there and come back to it in a moment first some context Vicki and I

moment first some context Vicki and I

moment first some context Vicki and I grew up had a fabulous relationship as

grew up had a fabulous relationship as

grew up had a fabulous relationship as young children and as we got a little

young children and as we got a little

young children and as we got a little older our lives diverged by coming to

older our lives diverged by coming to

older our lives diverged by coming to university at America literally put an

university at America literally put an

university at America literally put an ocean between us her life held a lot of

ocean between us her life held a lot of

ocean between us her life held a lot of tragedy she lost two husbands and both

tragedy she lost two husbands and both

tragedy she lost two husbands and both her sons to different causes and at

her sons to different causes and at

her sons to different causes and at different times

different times

different times she suffered loneliness and grief and in

she suffered loneliness and grief and in

she suffered loneliness and grief and in 2006 I thought to myself I’d like to

2006 I thought to myself I’d like to

2006 I thought to myself I’d like to recreate that relationship with my

recreate that relationship with my

recreate that relationship with my sister that I had as a child I also

sister that I had as a child I also

sister that I had as a child I also wanted to be there for her during this

wanted to be there for her during this

wanted to be there for her during this difficult time so I made myself a

difficult time so I made myself a

difficult time so I made myself a promise I’ll call Vicki every two weeks

promise I’ll call Vicki every two weeks

promise I’ll call Vicki every two weeks four years later I was reviewing this

four years later I was reviewing this

four years later I was reviewing this promise with my innovation class and to

promise with my innovation class and to

promise with my innovation class and to my horror I noticed that I wasn’t

my horror I noticed that I wasn’t

my horror I noticed that I wasn’t keeping it I was failing in my own class

or was I isn’t innovational about trying

or was I isn’t innovational about trying and failing and learning noticing the

and failing and learning noticing the

and failing and learning noticing the failure sparked a new idea could I

failure sparked a new idea could I

failure sparked a new idea could I possibly call Vicki every workday this

possibly call Vicki every workday this

possibly call Vicki every workday this new idea while it seemed a lot harder

new idea while it seemed a lot harder

new idea while it seemed a lot harder than the original idea was actually

than the original idea was actually

than the original idea was actually easier and I managed to keep it and

easier and I managed to keep it and

easier and I managed to keep it and Vicki and I talked for the next six

Vicki and I talked for the next six

Vicki and I talked for the next six years every work day until sadly she

years every work day until sadly she

years every work day until sadly she died in 2016 let’s review this through

died in 2016 let’s review this through

died in 2016 let’s review this through the lens of individual innovation and

the lens of individual innovation and

the lens of individual innovation and missing conversations there was a

missing conversations there was a

missing conversations there was a missing conversation for four years I

missing conversation for four years I

missing conversation for four years I was not talking to my sister every two

was not talking to my sister every two

was not talking to my sister every two weeks that idea sparked a new idea that

weeks that idea sparked a new idea that

weeks that idea sparked a new idea that I could potentially act on I acted on

I could potentially act on I acted on

I could potentially act on I acted on that idea and it changed everything for

that idea and it changed everything for

that idea and it changed everything for the two of us we were able to reconnect

the two of us we were able to reconnect

the two of us we were able to reconnect make a fantastic relationship that we’d

make a fantastic relationship that we’d

make a fantastic relationship that we’d had as children and what other wonderful

had as children and what other wonderful

had as children and what other wonderful outcomes as well

outcomes as well

outcomes as well Vicky was able to reconnect with her

Vicky was able to reconnect with her

Vicky was able to reconnect with her daughter-in-law Shelley and Shelley’s

daughter-in-law Shelley and Shelley’s

daughter-in-law Shelley and Shelley’s lovely family by having her own missing

lovely family by having her own missing

lovely family by having her own missing conversations to make that happen and at

conversations to make that happen and at

conversations to make that happen and at the celebration of Vicky’s life

the celebration of Vicky’s life

the celebration of Vicky’s life Shelley’s two of Shelley’s very young

Shelley’s two of Shelley’s very young

Shelley’s two of Shelley’s very young children gave beautiful eulogies about

children gave beautiful eulogies about

children gave beautiful eulogies about her Vicky had attended their sports and

her Vicky had attended their sports and

her Vicky had attended their sports and their practices and one of them even

their practices and one of them even

their practices and one of them even said unlike uncle James

said unlike uncle James

said unlike uncle James Vicky never felt asleep in my gymnastics

Vicky never felt asleep in my gymnastics

Vicky never felt asleep in my gymnastics practice conversations about death may

practice conversations about death may

practice conversations about death may be the ultimate missing conversation at

be the ultimate missing conversation at

be the ultimate missing conversation at our church we run a class grief class

our church we run a class grief class

our church we run a class grief class called walking the mourners path and we

called walking the mourners path and we

called walking the mourners path and we ask all the participants how is death

ask all the participants how is death

ask all the participants how is death discussed in your family of origin and a

discussed in your family of origin and a

discussed in your family of origin and a hundred percent of the time it’s never

hundred percent of the time it’s never

hundred percent of the time it’s never the answer is it’s never discussed and

the answer is it’s never discussed and

the answer is it’s never discussed and that certainly was my experience how

that certainly was my experience how

that certainly was my experience how about you one thing you can do for

about you one thing you can do for

about you one thing you can do for people who are grieving is just be there

people who are grieving is just be there

people who are grieving is just be there and listen as you’re doing now death is

and listen as you’re doing now death is

and listen as you’re doing now death is hard to talk about and perhaps that’s

hard to talk about and perhaps that’s

hard to talk about and perhaps that’s why it’s so often a missing conversation

why it’s so often a missing conversation

why it’s so often a missing conversation but courage can really help courage to

but courage can really help courage to

but courage can really help courage to face the fear of opening old wounds

face the fear of opening old wounds

face the fear of opening old wounds courage to face the fear of sharing

courage to face the fear of sharing

courage to face the fear of sharing sensitive personal information it’s hard

sensitive personal information it’s hard

sensitive personal information it’s hard so choose well and ask what

so choose well and ask what

so choose well and ask what conversations will you have with whom

conversations will you have with whom

conversations will you have with whom about what and why

the second type of missing conversation

the second type of missing conversation our subconscious conversations and you

our subconscious conversations and you

our subconscious conversations and you may find these little surprising they’re

may find these little surprising they’re

may find these little surprising they’re actually conversations you’re having

actually conversations you’re having

actually conversations you’re having with yourself how can you possibly miss

with yourself how can you possibly miss

with yourself how can you possibly miss conversations you’re having with

conversations you’re having with

conversations you’re having with yourself turns out it’s pretty easy

because I could subconscious you don’t

because I could subconscious you don’t notice them these are assessments

notice them these are assessments

notice them these are assessments prejudgments and yes prejudices and to

prejudgments and yes prejudices and to

prejudgments and yes prejudices and to be clear prejudice is not always a bad

be clear prejudice is not always a bad

be clear prejudice is not always a bad thing in fact every time you cross the

thing in fact every time you cross the

thing in fact every time you cross the road

road

road your prejudgment saves your life you get

your prejudgment saves your life you get

your prejudgment saves your life you get to the road and you prejudge is it safe

to the road and you prejudge is it safe

to the road and you prejudge is it safe to cross another example of subconscious

to cross another example of subconscious

to cross another example of subconscious conversations is assuming that we all

conversations is assuming that we all

conversations is assuming that we all speak the same language so instant

speak the same language so instant

speak the same language so instant Churchill famously said that America and

Churchill famously said that America and

Churchill famously said that America and England are two nations divided by a

England are two nations divided by a

England are two nations divided by a common language and and having spent the

common language and and having spent the

common language and and having spent the first 20 years of my life learning

first 20 years of my life learning

first 20 years of my life learning English English and the next 40 years

English English and the next 40 years

English English and the next 40 years actually a little bit more of my life

actually a little bit more of my life

actually a little bit more of my life learning American English I am

learning American English I am

learning American English I am constantly amazed by the number of

constantly amazed by the number of

constantly amazed by the number of differences I noticed between our two

differences I noticed between our two

differences I noticed between our two common languages here’s a story to tell

common languages here’s a story to tell

common languages here’s a story to tell the point 40 years ago my American wife

the point 40 years ago my American wife

the point 40 years ago my American wife and I lived in England and she just

and I lived in England and she just

and I lived in England and she just joined a very serious all-female lawyers

joined a very serious all-female lawyers

joined a very serious all-female lawyers office and on her first day to work she

office and on her first day to work she

office and on her first day to work she noticed everybody was wearing dresses so

noticed everybody was wearing dresses so

noticed everybody was wearing dresses so she stepped into her boss’s office and

she stepped into her boss’s office and

she stepped into her boss’s office and asked would it be okay if I wore pants

asked would it be okay if I wore pants

asked would it be okay if I wore pants to work today to which her astonished

to work today to which her astonished

to work today to which her astonished boss said mrs. Barnes I hope you’ll wear

boss said mrs. Barnes I hope you’ll wear

boss said mrs. Barnes I hope you’ll wear pants to work today

pants to work today

pants to work today I mean I mean tomorrow tomorrow but

I mean I mean tomorrow tomorrow but

I mean I mean tomorrow tomorrow but tomorrow tomorrow all right there wasn’t

tomorrow tomorrow all right there wasn’t

tomorrow tomorrow all right there wasn’t today all right so so buff more buff

today all right so so buff more buff

today all right so so buff more buff didn’t know was it in England pants mean

didn’t know was it in England pants mean

didn’t know was it in England pants mean Underpants she had just asked her boss

Underpants she had just asked her boss

Underpants she had just asked her boss if she could wear underpants to work

if she could wear underpants to work

if she could wear underpants to work a third example of subconscious

a third example of subconscious

a third example of subconscious conversations involves two short stories

conversations involves two short stories

conversations involves two short stories and a little audience participation so

and a little audience participation so

and a little audience participation so please listen well and think about your

please listen well and think about your

please listen well and think about your thinking it comes the first story Sarah

thinking it comes the first story Sarah

thinking it comes the first story Sarah is a good student but let’s stop right

is a good student but let’s stop right

is a good student but let’s stop right there what are you thinking nice

there what are you thinking nice

there what are you thinking nice participation I suspect you’re probably

participation I suspect you’re probably

participation I suspect you’re probably thinking of some stories about Sarah

thinking of some stories about Sarah

thinking of some stories about Sarah let’s try that again

let’s try that again

let’s try that again there he comes the second story Sarah is

there he comes the second story Sarah is

there he comes the second story Sarah is a good student and now what are you

a good student and now what are you

a good student and now what are you thinking okay so sis did you’re Sarah

thinking okay so sis did you’re Sarah

thinking okay so sis did you’re Sarah and stories were they different from the

and stories were they different from the

and stories were they different from the Sarah but and they were isn’t that

Sarah but and they were isn’t that

Sarah but and they were isn’t that interesting that you’re you know

interesting that you’re you know

interesting that you’re you know changing one word makes such a big

changing one word makes such a big

changing one word makes such a big difference in a conversation and

difference in a conversation and

difference in a conversation and probably the most important point here

probably the most important point here

probably the most important point here is not the button and the end but the

is not the button and the end but the

is not the button and the end but the fact that you had that thought in your

fact that you had that thought in your

fact that you had that thought in your mind and a big question is you did you

mind and a big question is you did you

mind and a big question is you did you notice that thought until I asked you

notice that thought until I asked you

notice that thought until I asked you about it cognitive scientists suggest

about it cognitive scientists suggest

about it cognitive scientists suggest that we create meaning in what we’re

that we create meaning in what we’re

that we create meaning in what we’re hearing by relating to our own lived

hearing by relating to our own lived

hearing by relating to our own lived experience so as we hear a story or hear

experience so as we hear a story or hear

experience so as we hear a story or hear words we’re already anticipating what

words we’re already anticipating what

words we’re already anticipating what the meaning of those words are and

the meaning of those words are and

the meaning of those words are and sometimes we’re finishing the story

sometimes we’re finishing the story

sometimes we’re finishing the story before the storyteller has finished like

before the storyteller has finished like

before the storyteller has finished like you did with with Sarah I often wonder

you did with with Sarah I often wonder

you did with with Sarah I often wonder about what cognitive scientists think

about what cognitive scientists think

about what cognitive scientists think and I wonder if that’s true

and I wonder if that’s true

and I wonder if that’s true if we create meaning out of our own

if we create meaning out of our own

if we create meaning out of our own stories it’s a disaster it’s almost no

stories it’s a disaster it’s almost no

stories it’s a disaster it’s almost no wonder that the world is so confused and

wonder that the world is so confused and

wonder that the world is so confused and there’s so much tension in the world not

there’s so much tension in the world not

there’s so much tension in the world not to mention languages it’s the

to mention languages it’s the

to mention languages it’s the rotation in fact I often think that

rotation in fact I often think that

rotation in fact I often think that everybody thinks the same way I think

everybody thinks the same way I think

everybody thinks the same way I think how crazy is that

how crazy is that

how crazy is that you know perhaps I’m the only person

you know perhaps I’m the only person

you know perhaps I’m the only person that thinks the way I think perhaps I’m

that thinks the way I think perhaps I’m

that thinks the way I think perhaps I’m the only person that speaks my language

the only person that speaks my language

the only person that speaks my language perhaps to build on what some Winston

perhaps to build on what some Winston

perhaps to build on what some Winston Churchill said we’re a globe of eight

Churchill said we’re a globe of eight

Churchill said we’re a globe of eight billion people divided by eight billion

billion people divided by eight billion

billion people divided by eight billion languages one thing you can do about

languages one thing you can do about

languages one thing you can do about this is to stop and ask what are my

this is to stop and ask what are my

this is to stop and ask what are my prejudices and are they serving my

prejudices and are they serving my

prejudices and are they serving my purpose

purpose

purpose so to summarize there are two types of

so to summarize there are two types of

so to summarize there are two types of conversation those that are actually not

conversation those that are actually not

conversation those that are actually not happening and subconscious conversations

happening and subconscious conversations

happening and subconscious conversations examples of those are actually not

examples of those are actually not

examples of those are actually not happening I like Vicky conversations

happening I like Vicky conversations

happening I like Vicky conversations with Vicky that we’re not happening also

with Vicky that we’re not happening also

with Vicky that we’re not happening also conversations about death and

conversations about death and

conversations about death and conversations that are subconscious the

conversations that are subconscious the

conversations that are subconscious the examples there were thinking about two

examples there were thinking about two

examples there were thinking about two languages the stories that you made up

languages the stories that you made up

languages the stories that you made up so so let’s summarize for a moment and

so so let’s summarize for a moment and

so so let’s summarize for a moment and think about what it is that a missing

think about what it is that a missing

think about what it is that a missing conversation is to you let’s return to

conversation is to you let’s return to

conversation is to you let’s return to the story you’re in my car which is

the story you’re in my car which is

the story you’re in my car which is called my sister Vicky two days after

called my sister Vicky two days after

called my sister Vicky two days after that event there was a message on my

that event there was a message on my

that event there was a message on my phone

phone

phone Vicky had left a message it will be the

Vicky had left a message it will be the

Vicky had left a message it will be the last that she would ever leave and in it

last that she would ever leave and in it

last that she would ever leave and in it she described that she had a great trip

she described that she had a great trip

she described that she had a great trip to the stained glass Museum she had a

to the stained glass Museum she had a

to the stained glass Museum she had a very good meeting with her cycle it’s

very good meeting with her cycle it’s

very good meeting with her cycle it’s like ayat rest’

like ayat rest’

like ayat rest’ and she ended this story by saying I

and she ended this story by saying I

and she ended this story by saying I love you all bye and it’s that joy in

love you all bye and it’s that joy in

love you all bye and it’s that joy in that bye

that bye

that bye that encourages me to encourage you to

that encourages me to encourage you to

that encourages me to encourage you to start your individual

start your individual

start your individual innovation practice notice you’re

innovation practice notice you’re

innovation practice notice you’re missing conversations and have the ones

missing conversations and have the ones

missing conversations and have the ones that are literally missing that are

that are literally missing that are

that are literally missing that are important and notice your prejudgments

important and notice your prejudgments

important and notice your prejudgments and prejudices and challenge those

and prejudices and challenge those

and prejudices and challenge those prejudices change them but first notice

prejudices change them but first notice

prejudices change them but first notice them because until you notice them you

them because until you notice them you

them because until you notice them you have no hope of changing them Vicki and

have no hope of changing them Vicki and

have no hope of changing them Vicki and I used to love having bonfires we would

I used to love having bonfires we would

I used to love having bonfires we would sit and round the bonfire with our

sit and round the bonfire with our

sit and round the bonfire with our family and just have wonderful times and

family and just have wonderful times and

family and just have wonderful times and a couple of years before she died we

a couple of years before she died we

a couple of years before she died we would do this quite a lot with our

would do this quite a lot with our

would do this quite a lot with our brother now I often will have a bonfire

brother now I often will have a bonfire

brother now I often will have a bonfire in the backyard and I’ll sit by it and

in the backyard and I’ll sit by it and

in the backyard and I’ll sit by it and I’ll just sit and remember the joy that

I’ll just sit and remember the joy that

I’ll just sit and remember the joy that Vicki brought to the world so here we

Vicki brought to the world so here we

Vicki brought to the world so here we are by the fireside remembering Vicki

are by the fireside remembering Vicki

are by the fireside remembering Vicki what are your missing conversations I

what are your missing conversations I

what are your missing conversations I hope you’ll be inspired to start an

hope you’ll be inspired to start an

hope you’ll be inspired to start an individual innovation practice noticing

individual innovation practice noticing

individual innovation practice noticing and having your missing conversations

and having your missing conversations

and having your missing conversations you’ll be glad if you do it will change

you’ll be glad if you do it will change

you’ll be glad if you do it will change you as it continues to change me one

you as it continues to change me one

you as it continues to change me one conversation at a time thank you

conversation at a time thank you

conversation at a time thank you [Applause]

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