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[Music] Bernie Madoff is a liar perhaps the most

Bernie Madoff is a liar perhaps the most

Bernie Madoff is a liar perhaps the most gifted liar I’ve met in nearly 50 years

gifted liar I’ve met in nearly 50 years

gifted liar I’ve met in nearly 50 years of writing about finance and government

of writing about finance and government

of writing about finance and government his ability to tell credible lies helped

his ability to tell credible lies helped

his ability to tell credible lies helped him build the 65 billion dollar fraud

him build the 65 billion dollar fraud

him build the 65 billion dollar fraud that ruined tens of thousands of

that ruined tens of thousands of

that ruined tens of thousands of people’s lives his lies were devastating

people’s lives his lies were devastating

people’s lives his lies were devastating even deadly at least two investors

even deadly at least two investors

even deadly at least two investors committed suicide when they learned of

committed suicide when they learned of

committed suicide when they learned of their Madoff losses but I don’t think

their Madoff losses but I don’t think

their Madoff losses but I don’t think made offs talent for dishonesty alone

made offs talent for dishonesty alone

made offs talent for dishonesty alone explains how he did so much damage

explains how he did so much damage

explains how he did so much damage I think criminals like Madoff are helped

I think criminals like Madoff are helped

I think criminals like Madoff are helped enormous ly by our own fuzzy

enormous ly by our own fuzzy

enormous ly by our own fuzzy understanding about the quality of trust

understanding about the quality of trust

understanding about the quality of trust trust it’s a beautiful and healthy part

trust it’s a beautiful and healthy part

trust it’s a beautiful and healthy part of every life we rely on it as

of every life we rely on it as

of every life we rely on it as individuals as consumers certainly and

individuals as consumers certainly and

individuals as consumers certainly and as citizens economists tell us that the

as citizens economists tell us that the

as citizens economists tell us that the ambient level of trust in a nation is a

ambient level of trust in a nation is a

ambient level of trust in a nation is a pretty good predictor for its economic

pretty good predictor for its economic

pretty good predictor for its economic success and psychologists tell us that

success and psychologists tell us that

success and psychologists tell us that the level of trust in our relationships

the level of trust in our relationships

the level of trust in our relationships is a pretty good predictor for their

is a pretty good predictor for their

is a pretty good predictor for their success – and after 50 years with the

success – and after 50 years with the

success – and after 50 years with the very trustworthy guy who is my husband I

very trustworthy guy who is my husband I

very trustworthy guy who is my husband I can tell you they’re right about that

but trust is a paradox isn’t it

but trust is a paradox isn’t it trust beautiful as it is is the only

trust beautiful as it is is the only

trust beautiful as it is is the only weapon a criminal like Bernie Madoff

weapon a criminal like Bernie Madoff

weapon a criminal like Bernie Madoff needs to destroy his victims lives

and even if you never lose a penny to a

and even if you never lose a penny to a fraud criminals like Madoff tear at the

fraud criminals like Madoff tear at the

fraud criminals like Madoff tear at the fabric of trust that holds our society

fabric of trust that holds our society

fabric of trust that holds our society together and that hurts all of us this

together and that hurts all of us this

together and that hurts all of us this dual nature of trust the blessing occurs

dual nature of trust the blessing occurs

dual nature of trust the blessing occurs light-dark nourishing dangerous has

light-dark nourishing dangerous has

light-dark nourishing dangerous has always been endlessly fascinating to me

always been endlessly fascinating to me

always been endlessly fascinating to me and I think the Madoff story gives us a

and I think the Madoff story gives us a

and I think the Madoff story gives us a way inside that paradox of trust and

way inside that paradox of trust and

way inside that paradox of trust and offers us some practical lessons for our

offers us some practical lessons for our

offers us some practical lessons for our own lives today I hope you will learn

own lives today I hope you will learn

own lives today I hope you will learn more about how to protect yourself from

more about how to protect yourself from

more about how to protect yourself from criminals like Madoff but I also hope

criminals like Madoff but I also hope

criminals like Madoff but I also hope that you’ll emerge with a deeper

that you’ll emerge with a deeper

that you’ll emerge with a deeper understanding that trust is nowhere near

understanding that trust is nowhere near

understanding that trust is nowhere near as simple as it seems when money is

as simple as it seems when money is

as simple as it seems when money is involved first a couple of definitions

involved first a couple of definitions

involved first a couple of definitions conman and Ponzi scheme Bernie Madoff is

conman and Ponzi scheme Bernie Madoff is

conman and Ponzi scheme Bernie Madoff is a conman well what does that mean conman

a conman well what does that mean conman

a conman well what does that mean conman as you may know is an abbreviation for

as you may know is an abbreviation for

as you may know is an abbreviation for confidence man a term that was in use at

confidence man a term that was in use at

confidence man a term that was in use at least as early as 1857 when Herman

least as early as 1857 when Herman

least as early as 1857 when Herman Melville used it as the title for his

Melville used it as the title for his

Melville used it as the title for his final novel and confidence man is a

final novel and confidence man is a

final novel and confidence man is a pretty good way to describe a criminal

pretty good way to describe a criminal

pretty good way to describe a criminal who wins your confidence and then uses

who wins your confidence and then uses

who wins your confidence and then uses it to swindle you yes there have been

it to swindle you yes there have been

it to swindle you yes there have been some confidence women but as a group con

some confidence women but as a group con

some confidence women but as a group con artists are overwhelmingly male so I’m

artists are overwhelmingly male so I’m

artists are overwhelmingly male so I’m going to stick with conman like Bernie

going to stick with conman like Bernie

going to stick with conman like Bernie Madoff all con men are liars but all

Madoff all con men are liars but all

Madoff all con men are liars but all Liars are not con men and we’re at a

Liars are not con men and we’re at a

Liars are not con men and we’re at a moment in our history when it’s

moment in our history when it’s

moment in our history when it’s important to make that distinction to

important to make that distinction to

important to make that distinction to point to some of the oft exposed Liars

point to some of the oft exposed Liars

point to some of the oft exposed Liars on the public stage today and say well

on the public stage today and say well

on the public stage today and say well they’re con men well frankly that’s an

they’re con men well frankly that’s an

they’re con men well frankly that’s an insult to con men

liars they’re a dime a dozen any

liars they’re a dime a dozen any four-year-old can tell a halfway-decent

four-year-old can tell a halfway-decent

four-year-old can tell a halfway-decent lie you and I can tell much better lies

lie you and I can tell much better lies

lie you and I can tell much better lies although I’m sure like me you try not to

although I’m sure like me you try not to

although I’m sure like me you try not to telling lies is very very easy telling

telling lies is very very easy telling

telling lies is very very easy telling lies without getting caught telling lies

lies without getting caught telling lies

lies without getting caught telling lies without raising a whiff of suspicion

without raising a whiff of suspicion

without raising a whiff of suspicion telling lies that inspire trust and

telling lies that inspire trust and

telling lies that inspire trust and belief and everyone who hears them well

belief and everyone who hears them well

belief and everyone who hears them well that is very very difficult and that is

that is very very difficult and that is

that is very very difficult and that is what every successful conman must be

what every successful conman must be

what every successful conman must be able to do let’s think about Madoff for

able to do let’s think about Madoff for

able to do let’s think about Madoff for a minute in the decades that Madoff was

a minute in the decades that Madoff was

a minute in the decades that Madoff was secretly running his massive fraud no

secretly running his massive fraud no

secretly running his massive fraud no national publication ever ran a list of

national publication ever ran a list of

national publication ever ran a list of the 2000 lies that madoff had told in

the 2000 lies that madoff had told in

the 2000 lies that madoff had told in the previous year none of his speeches

the previous year none of his speeches

the previous year none of his speeches ever got four Pinocchios or a pants on

ever got four Pinocchios or a pants on

ever got four Pinocchios or a pants on fire reward if that had ever happened

fire reward if that had ever happened

fire reward if that had ever happened just once well may off would have still

just once well may off would have still

just once well may off would have still been a liar but his career as a conman

been a liar but his career as a conman

been a liar but his career as a conman would have been over okay that’s conman

would have been over okay that’s conman

would have been over okay that’s conman let’s turn to Ponzi scheme that’s the

let’s turn to Ponzi scheme that’s the

let’s turn to Ponzi scheme that’s the kind of fraud that Madoff and a host of

kind of fraud that Madoff and a host of

kind of fraud that Madoff and a host of other con men like to pursue a Ponzi

other con men like to pursue a Ponzi

other con men like to pursue a Ponzi scheme is a very simple crime and it can

scheme is a very simple crime and it can

scheme is a very simple crime and it can be summed up in the old proverb about

be summed up in the old proverb about

be summed up in the old proverb about robbing Peter to pay Paul that’s exactly

robbing Peter to pay Paul that’s exactly

robbing Peter to pay Paul that’s exactly what a Ponzi schemer does he takes the

what a Ponzi schemer does he takes the

what a Ponzi schemer does he takes the money invested by Peter and he uses it

money invested by Peter and he uses it

money invested by Peter and he uses it to pay the profits he’s promised to Paul

to pay the profits he’s promised to Paul

to pay the profits he’s promised to Paul and he lies to both of them about what

and he lies to both of them about what

and he lies to both of them about what he’s doing

he’s doing

he’s doing Ponzi schemes to like con men had been

Ponzi schemes to like con men had been

Ponzi schemes to like con men had been around for a long long time but for most

around for a long long time but for most

around for a long long time but for most of that history up until 1920 they were

of that history up until 1920 they were

of that history up until 1920 they were known as Peter to Paul schemes for

known as Peter to Paul schemes for

known as Peter to Paul schemes for obvious reasons then in 1920 an

obvious reasons then in 1920 an

obvious reasons then in 1920 an extraordinary con artist named Charles

extraordinary con artist named Charles

extraordinary con artist named Charles Ponzi set up the Peter to Paul scheme in

Ponzi set up the Peter to Paul scheme in

Ponzi set up the Peter to Paul scheme in Boston that would make him briefly rich

Boston that would make him briefly rich

Boston that would make him briefly rich and lastingly famous and the name stuck

and lastingly famous and the name stuck

and lastingly famous and the name stuck since Ponzi’s arrests almost a century

since Ponzi’s arrests almost a century

since Ponzi’s arrests almost a century ago there have been countless copycat

ago there have been countless copycat

ago there have been countless copycat crimes and the odds are very good that

crimes and the odds are very good that

crimes and the odds are very good that there are dozens of undetected Ponzi

there are dozens of undetected Ponzi

there are dozens of undetected Ponzi schemes going on across the country

schemes going on across the country

schemes going on across the country right now the website Ponzi tracker

right now the website Ponzi tracker

right now the website Ponzi tracker dot-com reports that there have been on

dot-com reports that there have been on

dot-com reports that there have been on average 65 Ponzi schemes exposed every

average 65 Ponzi schemes exposed every

average 65 Ponzi schemes exposed every year since 2002 think about it that’s a

year since 2002 think about it that’s a

year since 2002 think about it that’s a fresh for all it’s surfacing every five

fresh for all it’s surfacing every five

fresh for all it’s surfacing every five days now we’ve had Ponzi schemes

days now we’ve had Ponzi schemes

days now we’ve had Ponzi schemes involving Bitcoin involving art

involving Bitcoin involving art

involving Bitcoin involving art involving wines latex gloves for some

involving wines latex gloves for some

involving wines latex gloves for some reason even tickets to the hit Broadway

reason even tickets to the hit Broadway

reason even tickets to the hit Broadway musical Hamilton so I can’t predict what

musical Hamilton so I can’t predict what

musical Hamilton so I can’t predict what kind of fate investments will be

kind of fate investments will be

kind of fate investments will be involved in the next 65 Ponzi schemes

involved in the next 65 Ponzi schemes

involved in the next 65 Ponzi schemes that will surface in the coming year but

that will surface in the coming year but

that will surface in the coming year but I can tell you this about the people

I can tell you this about the people

I can tell you this about the people running them right now as I speak every

running them right now as I speak every

running them right now as I speak every one of them is a trusted figure in their

one of them is a trusted figure in their

one of them is a trusted figure in their community and I know that because the

community and I know that because the

community and I know that because the only people who can pull anyone into a

only people who can pull anyone into a

only people who can pull anyone into a Ponzi scheme is a trusted figure in

Ponzi scheme is a trusted figure in

Ponzi scheme is a trusted figure in their community like Bernie Madoff

their community like Bernie Madoff

their community like Bernie Madoff before his arrest

before his arrest

before his arrest like Charles Ponzi before he was exposed

the theme is uncharted today and

the theme is uncharted today and unfortunately in my context it’s the

unfortunately in my context it’s the

unfortunately in my context it’s the criminals who’ve gone off the chart con

criminals who’ve gone off the chart con

criminals who’ve gone off the chart con men are changing but our understanding

men are changing but our understanding

men are changing but our understanding of them is caught in the old-fashioned

of them is caught in the old-fashioned

of them is caught in the old-fashioned stereotypes of the Charles Ponzi story

stereotypes of the Charles Ponzi story

stereotypes of the Charles Ponzi story the conventional wisdom has it that a

the conventional wisdom has it that a

the conventional wisdom has it that a Ponzi schemer

Ponzi schemer

Ponzi schemer it’s always going to be above

it’s always going to be above

it’s always going to be above the life of the party telling jokes

the life of the party telling jokes

the life of the party telling jokes buying drinks and trying to hustle in

buying drinks and trying to hustle in

buying drinks and trying to hustle in admiring investors as fast as he can but

admiring investors as fast as he can but

admiring investors as fast as he can but that certainly wasn’t true of Bernie

that certainly wasn’t true of Bernie

that certainly wasn’t true of Bernie Madoff Madoff was quiet dignified

Madoff Madoff was quiet dignified

Madoff Madoff was quiet dignified reserved and he turned investors away so

reserved and he turned investors away so

reserved and he turned investors away so often it became something of an honour

often it became something of an honour

often it became something of an honour to be allowed to invest with him

to be allowed to invest with him

to be allowed to invest with him so Madoff didn’t fit anybody’s obsolete

so Madoff didn’t fit anybody’s obsolete

so Madoff didn’t fit anybody’s obsolete stereotype of a Ponzi schemer and that

stereotype of a Ponzi schemer and that

stereotype of a Ponzi schemer and that helped him avoid detection the

helped him avoid detection the

helped him avoid detection the conventional wisdom also holds that

conventional wisdom also holds that

conventional wisdom also holds that Ponzi schemes always involve outrageous

Ponzi schemes always involve outrageous

Ponzi schemes always involve outrageous promises pie-in-the-sky overnight wealth

promises pie-in-the-sky overnight wealth

promises pie-in-the-sky overnight wealth that’s at the heart of that old investor

that’s at the heart of that old investor

that’s at the heart of that old investor warning you’ve heard it if it sounds too

warning you’ve heard it if it sounds too

warning you’ve heard it if it sounds too good to be true it is but that isn’t

good to be true it is but that isn’t

good to be true it is but that isn’t true of the Madoff case

true of the Madoff case

true of the Madoff case Madoff’s returns while consistent were

Madoff’s returns while consistent were

Madoff’s returns while consistent were comparatively modest by hedge fund

comparatively modest by hedge fund

comparatively modest by hedge fund standards one of his investors

standards one of his investors

standards one of his investors calculated he would have made more money

calculated he would have made more money

calculated he would have made more money investing in the fidelity Magellan fund

investing in the fidelity Magellan fund

investing in the fidelity Magellan fund which I’m sure he wished he’d done so

which I’m sure he wished he’d done so

which I’m sure he wished he’d done so Madoff’s

Madoff’s

Madoff’s unmasking actually led one smart fraud

unmasking actually led one smart fraud

unmasking actually led one smart fraud analysts to say we need to rewrite that

analysts to say we need to rewrite that

analysts to say we need to rewrite that old warning instead it should read if it

old warning instead it should read if it

old warning instead it should read if it sounds too good to be true you’re

sounds too good to be true you’re

sounds too good to be true you’re dealing with an amateur think about it

dealing with an amateur think about it

dealing with an amateur think about it Madoff was no amateur he was a

Madoff was no amateur he was a

Madoff was no amateur he was a professional and his investors did not

professional and his investors did not

professional and his investors did not look to him to make them rich overnight

look to him to make them rich overnight

look to him to make them rich overnight they look to him to keep them safe in a

they look to him to keep them safe in a

they look to him to keep them safe in a scary volatile market and they could not

scary volatile market and they could not

scary volatile market and they could not believe he would ever betray them and in

believe he would ever betray them and in

believe he would ever betray them and in a very tiny way I know a little bit of

a very tiny way I know a little bit of

a very tiny way I know a little bit of how they felt

how they felt

how they felt because in far less consequential

because in far less consequential

because in far less consequential matters Madoff betrayed me too it was in

matters Madoff betrayed me too it was in

matters Madoff betrayed me too it was in the summer of 2010 Madoff it finally

the summer of 2010 Madoff it finally

the summer of 2010 Madoff it finally agreed to my many

agreed to my many

agreed to my many Quest’s for an interview for the book I

Quest’s for an interview for the book I

Quest’s for an interview for the book I was writing about his case but he

was writing about his case but he

was writing about his case but he insisted that those interviews be used

insisted that those interviews be used

insisted that those interviews be used only for my book I was reluctant to

only for my book I was reluctant to

only for my book I was reluctant to agree to this embargo because the book

agree to this embargo because the book

agree to this embargo because the book wouldn’t be out for many many months and

wouldn’t be out for many many months and

wouldn’t be out for many many months and Madoff could talk to a lot of writers

Madoff could talk to a lot of writers

Madoff could talk to a lot of writers between now and then and my hands would

between now and then and my hands would

between now and then and my hands would be tied so I said I would only agree if

be tied so I said I would only agree if

be tied so I said I would only agree if Madoff would agree not to talk to any

Madoff would agree not to talk to any

Madoff would agree not to talk to any other reporters before my book was

other reporters before my book was

other reporters before my book was published well he readily said yes he

published well he readily said yes he

published well he readily said yes he even put it in writing and he seemed so

even put it in writing and he seemed so

even put it in writing and he seemed so sincere so trustworthy that I believed

sincere so trustworthy that I believed

sincere so trustworthy that I believed it and I already knew he was a crook

it and I already knew he was a crook

it and I already knew he was a crook that’s how good he is

that’s how good he is

that’s how good he is of course he broke his promise no

of course he broke his promise no

of course he broke his promise no surprise there but what was surprising

surprise there but what was surprising

surprise there but what was surprising was how shocked I was when it happened

was how shocked I was when it happened

was how shocked I was when it happened and how foolish I felt for ever trusting

and how foolish I felt for ever trusting

and how foolish I felt for ever trusting Bernie Madoff in the first place so if

Bernie Madoff in the first place so if

Bernie Madoff in the first place so if we can’t trust our gut to recognize a

we can’t trust our gut to recognize a

we can’t trust our gut to recognize a conman

conman

conman and we can’t what should we do well

and we can’t what should we do well

and we can’t what should we do well relying on financial regulators is not a

relying on financial regulators is not a

relying on financial regulators is not a good bet these are devilishly hard

good bet these are devilishly hard

good bet these are devilishly hard crimes to detect in advance

crimes to detect in advance

crimes to detect in advance everything looks rosy until the money

everything looks rosy until the money

everything looks rosy until the money runs out and then it’s usually too late

runs out and then it’s usually too late

runs out and then it’s usually too late trusting in bankers who serve Ponzi

trusting in bankers who serve Ponzi

trusting in bankers who serve Ponzi schemers to catch them well the track

schemers to catch them well the track

schemers to catch them well the track record isn’t so good every successful

record isn’t so good every successful

record isn’t so good every successful Ponzi schemer had a banker who failed to

Ponzi schemer had a banker who failed to

Ponzi schemer had a banker who failed to catch him so what should we do there

catch him so what should we do there

catch him so what should we do there were two anecdotes from the Madoff story

were two anecdotes from the Madoff story

were two anecdotes from the Madoff story that I think are very helpful the first

that I think are very helpful the first

that I think are very helpful the first involved a retired retailer who was

involved a retired retailer who was

involved a retired retailer who was eager to invest with Madoff when he

eager to invest with Madoff when he

eager to invest with Madoff when he finally got a meeting with Madoff they’d

finally got a meeting with Madoff they’d

finally got a meeting with Madoff they’d off told him well his minimum investment

off told him well his minimum investment

off told him well his minimum investment was five million dollars the retailer

was five million dollars the retailer

was five million dollars the retailer was a wealthy man he could have written

was a wealthy man he could have written

was a wealthy man he could have written the check easily but he explained that

the check easily but he explained that

the check easily but he explained that he had a firm rule

he had a firm rule

he had a firm rule he never invested more than a quarter of

he never invested more than a quarter of

he never invested more than a quarter of a million dollars with a new money

a million dollars with a new money

a million dollars with a new money manager in the first year later on who

manager in the first year later on who

manager in the first year later on who knew but only a quarter of a million

knew but only a quarter of a million

knew but only a quarter of a million madoff stood firm five million dollars

madoff stood firm five million dollars

madoff stood firm five million dollars or no dice the retailer was tempted he

or no dice the retailer was tempted he

or no dice the retailer was tempted he wrangled this invitation to talk with

wrangled this invitation to talk with

wrangled this invitation to talk with madoff but he thought about it

madoff but he thought about it

madoff but he thought about it finally he shook his head shook Bernie’s

finally he shook his head shook Bernie’s

finally he shook his head shook Bernie’s hand and walked away similarly a small

hand and walked away similarly a small

hand and walked away similarly a small charity had an opportunity to invest

charity had an opportunity to invest

charity had an opportunity to invest with Madoff but their investment

with Madoff but their investment

with Madoff but their investment committee of their board had a

committee of their board had a

committee of their board had a long-standing rule they only dealt with

long-standing rule they only dealt with

long-standing rule they only dealt with money managers who used an independent

money managers who used an independent

money managers who used an independent bank or third party to hold the assets

bank or third party to hold the assets

bank or third party to hold the assets in their account and madoff didn’t do

in their account and madoff didn’t do

in their account and madoff didn’t do that but it could have made an exception

that but it could have made an exception

that but it could have made an exception in this case to get the talents of this

in this case to get the talents of this

in this case to get the talents of this market wizard but they decided you know

market wizard but they decided you know

market wizard but they decided you know the rule was served as well we’ll stick

the rule was served as well we’ll stick

the rule was served as well we’ll stick with it and they walked away now what’s

with it and they walked away now what’s

with it and they walked away now what’s fascinating about both of these stories

fascinating about both of these stories

fascinating about both of these stories is that in neither case did anyone

is that in neither case did anyone

is that in neither case did anyone suspect madoff was a crook

suspect madoff was a crook

suspect madoff was a crook far from it the charity the retailer

far from it the charity the retailer

far from it the charity the retailer they continued to admire and respect and

they continued to admire and respect and

they continued to admire and respect and trust Bernie Madoff right up until the

trust Bernie Madoff right up until the

trust Bernie Madoff right up until the day he was arrested they didn’t have

day he was arrested they didn’t have

day he was arrested they didn’t have some kind of x-ray vision into Bernie

some kind of x-ray vision into Bernie

some kind of x-ray vision into Bernie soul they didn’t have some kind of

soul they didn’t have some kind of

soul they didn’t have some kind of geiger counter in their gut that told

geiger counter in their gut that told

geiger counter in their gut that told them beware no they just had some

them beware no they just had some

them beware no they just had some common-sense rules and they stuck to

common-sense rules and they stuck to

common-sense rules and they stuck to them and we can do exactly the same

them and we can do exactly the same

them and we can do exactly the same thing we could for example decide that

thing we could for example decide that

thing we could for example decide that we are only going to invest and well

we are only going to invest and well

we are only going to invest and well regulated public mutual funds and that

regulated public mutual funds and that

regulated public mutual funds and that would keep you safe from Ponzi schemers

would keep you safe from Ponzi schemers

would keep you safe from Ponzi schemers so long as you don’t waive that rule

so long as you don’t waive that rule

so long as you don’t waive that rule when you’re brilliantly successful

when you’re brilliantly successful

when you’re brilliantly successful neighbor invites you into his private

neighbor invites you into his private

neighbor invites you into his private Bitcoin fund on a more difficult level

Bitcoin fund on a more difficult level

Bitcoin fund on a more difficult level we could decide that we simply will not

we could decide that we simply will not

we could decide that we simply will not invest with close friends

invest with close friends

invest with close friends family members ever precisely because we

family members ever precisely because we

family members ever precisely because we understand that the trust we place in

understand that the trust we place in

understand that the trust we place in them will inevitably blind us to any red

them will inevitably blind us to any red

them will inevitably blind us to any red flags we would need to see to know that

flags we would need to see to know that

flags we would need to see to know that we were in trouble

we were in trouble

we were in trouble firm common-sense rules no exceptions I

firm common-sense rules no exceptions I

firm common-sense rules no exceptions I think Bernie Madoff would tell you that

think Bernie Madoff would tell you that

think Bernie Madoff would tell you that that’s the best way to protect yourself

that’s the best way to protect yourself

that’s the best way to protect yourself from con men like him

from con men like him

from con men like him the only other way I can think of is

the only other way I can think of is

the only other way I can think of is clinical paranoia on a global scale con

clinical paranoia on a global scale con

clinical paranoia on a global scale con men cannot work in a world where nobody

men cannot work in a world where nobody

men cannot work in a world where nobody trusts anybody else but nobody wants to

trusts anybody else but nobody wants to

trusts anybody else but nobody wants to live in a world like that modern

live in a world like that modern

live in a world like that modern Commerce is impossible in a world like

Commerce is impossible in a world like

Commerce is impossible in a world like that and healthy relationships are

that and healthy relationships are

that and healthy relationships are destroyed by a world like that so by all

destroyed by a world like that so by all

destroyed by a world like that so by all means continue to trust one another

means continue to trust one another

means continue to trust one another let’s use trust to build strong

let’s use trust to build strong

let’s use trust to build strong relationships strong communities a

relationships strong communities a

relationships strong communities a strong country but for heaven’s sake

strong country but for heaven’s sake

strong country but for heaven’s sake find something besides trust to guide

find something besides trust to guide

find something besides trust to guide how you handle your money because trust

how you handle your money because trust

how you handle your money because trust will always be that two-edged sword the

will always be that two-edged sword the

will always be that two-edged sword the con man’s favorite weapon trusting in

con man’s favorite weapon trusting in

con man’s favorite weapon trusting in trust alone to navigate the world of

trust alone to navigate the world of

trust alone to navigate the world of money well that’s exactly what the next

money well that’s exactly what the next

money well that’s exactly what the next Bernie Madoff is hoping that you will do

Bernie Madoff is hoping that you will do

Bernie Madoff is hoping that you will do and what I’m hoping you won’t thank you

and what I’m hoping you won’t thank you

and what I’m hoping you won’t thank you very much

very much

very much [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] you

you

you [Music]

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