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It’s About Time | Rob Jackson | TEDxCharlottesville


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it’s about time I was on some ol hurry

it’s about time I was on some ol hurry up and waited trying to bust out the

up and waited trying to bust out the

up and waited trying to bust out the gate and beat fate but lately I’m movin

gate and beat fate but lately I’m movin

gate and beat fate but lately I’m movin in my time not your time cuz it’s not

in my time not your time cuz it’s not

in my time not your time cuz it’s not your cheese it’s mine yo when I ride my

your cheese it’s mine yo when I ride my

your cheese it’s mine yo when I ride my intertwine my mind with the divine the

intertwine my mind with the divine the

intertwine my mind with the divine the moment when the divine exponent is

moment when the divine exponent is

moment when the divine exponent is trying its atonement kind of like CP

trying its atonement kind of like CP

trying its atonement kind of like CP time when you would sink unbeknownst to

time when you would sink unbeknownst to

time when you would sink unbeknownst to the conscious mind

the conscious mind

the conscious mind it’s an ill mind still time Bill Denver

it’s an ill mind still time Bill Denver

it’s an ill mind still time Bill Denver fine still get in mind in the nine

fine still get in mind in the nine

fine still get in mind in the nine divine I hang a shingle and mingle with

divine I hang a shingle and mingle with

divine I hang a shingle and mingle with the masterminds because for me and mine

the masterminds because for me and mine

the masterminds because for me and mine it’s about time thank you

so my name is Rob Jackson I got

so my name is Rob Jackson I got introduced but I’m also known as blue

introduced but I’m also known as blue

introduced but I’m also known as blue black of the unspoken hurt on November

black of the unspoken hurt on November

black of the unspoken hurt on November 3rd 1997 me and my partner in rhyme

3rd 1997 me and my partner in rhyme

3rd 1997 me and my partner in rhyme the Honorable Asha rule released an EP

the Honorable Asha rule released an EP

the Honorable Asha rule released an EP on seven heads records entitled

on seven heads records entitled

on seven heads records entitled cosmology now the the EP or the rhyme

cosmology now the the EP or the rhyme

cosmology now the the EP or the rhyme that I just said was on that EPS music

that I just said was on that EPS music

that I just said was on that EPS music in a song called it’s about time and

in a song called it’s about time and

in a song called it’s about time and oddly enough I was living in

oddly enough I was living in

oddly enough I was living in Charlottesville in 1997 when it’s about

Charlottesville in 1997 when it’s about

Charlottesville in 1997 when it’s about time came out now when I was asked to

time came out now when I was asked to

time came out now when I was asked to give a title for this talk I didn’t know

give a title for this talk I didn’t know

give a title for this talk I didn’t know check-check thank you when when I was

check-check thank you when when I was

check-check thank you when when I was asked to give a title for this talk I

asked to give a title for this talk I

asked to give a title for this talk I didn’t know what day this talk was going

didn’t know what day this talk was going

didn’t know what day this talk was going to be but today I’m here in Charleston

to be but today I’m here in Charleston

to be but today I’m here in Charleston Virginia on November 3rd 2017 the 20th

Virginia on November 3rd 2017 the 20th

Virginia on November 3rd 2017 the 20th anniversary of that rhymes release

anniversary of that rhymes release

anniversary of that rhymes release giving a talk entitled it’s about time

so I usually bug out on stuff like that

so I usually bug out on stuff like that but I’m starting to get a little

but I’m starting to get a little

but I’m starting to get a little familiar with these occurrences and I’m

familiar with these occurrences and I’m

familiar with these occurrences and I’m starting to refer to them as hip-hop

starting to refer to them as hip-hop

starting to refer to them as hip-hop moments

moments

moments they’re like little reminders for me

they’re like little reminders for me

they’re like little reminders for me that no matter where you go there you

that no matter where you go there you

that no matter where you go there you are but I’m here today to talk about the

are but I’m here today to talk about the

are but I’m here today to talk about the meaning and value of hip-hop and even

meaning and value of hip-hop and even

meaning and value of hip-hop and even though hip-hop has changed a lot since

though hip-hop has changed a lot since

though hip-hop has changed a lot since it was born in 1973 the meaning and

it was born in 1973 the meaning and

it was born in 1973 the meaning and value of hip-hop has remained the same

value of hip-hop has remained the same

value of hip-hop has remained the same over time so by a short hands how many

over time so by a short hands how many

over time so by a short hands how many people in the audience know what hip-hop

people in the audience know what hip-hop

people in the audience know what hip-hop is okay all right by show of hands how

is okay all right by show of hands how

is okay all right by show of hands how many people would say I am hip-hop okay

many people would say I am hip-hop okay

many people would say I am hip-hop okay so most people have no idea what hip-hop

so most people have no idea what hip-hop

so most people have no idea what hip-hop is and I completely understand why the

is and I completely understand why the

is and I completely understand why the companies and organizations that are

companies and organizations that are

companies and organizations that are currently investing in hip-hop are not

currently investing in hip-hop are not

currently investing in hip-hop are not really investing in hip-hop

really investing in hip-hop

really investing in hip-hop they’re either using hip-hop to make

they’re either using hip-hop to make

they’re either using hip-hop to make money or they’re using hip-hop to market

money or they’re using hip-hop to market

money or they’re using hip-hop to market a product or service or brand but

a product or service or brand but

a product or service or brand but hip-hop is a uniquely American 21st

hip-hop is a uniquely American 21st

hip-hop is a uniquely American 21st century institution that we don’t fully

century institution that we don’t fully

century institution that we don’t fully appreciate because of the frames we use

appreciate because of the frames we use

appreciate because of the frames we use to talk about it it’s time to have a

to talk about it it’s time to have a

to talk about it it’s time to have a sustained dialogue about what hip-hop is

sustained dialogue about what hip-hop is

sustained dialogue about what hip-hop is and what it is not where we can change

and what it is not where we can change

and what it is not where we can change the frame and decouple it from the

the frame and decouple it from the

the frame and decouple it from the things that we normally associate with

things that we normally associate with

things that we normally associate with it hip-hop needs a space or a place

it hip-hop needs a space or a place

it hip-hop needs a space or a place where people can go explore experiment

where people can go explore experiment

where people can go explore experiment and reflect on hip hop’s cultural

and reflect on hip hop’s cultural

and reflect on hip hop’s cultural production process from meaning to

production process from meaning to

production process from meaning to production to consumption we’re national

production to consumption we’re national

production to consumption we’re national and international partners can come

and international partners can come

and international partners can come together and from media from academia

together and from media from academia

together and from media from academia from advertising and talk about hip-hop

from advertising and talk about hip-hop

from advertising and talk about hip-hop as a 21st century institution now before

as a 21st century institution now before

as a 21st century institution now before I go too deep and start losing people in

I go too deep and start losing people in

I go too deep and start losing people in the audience hip-hop is not rap music

the audience hip-hop is not rap music

the audience hip-hop is not rap music okay so many people in audience way

okay so many people in audience way

okay so many people in audience way and some people like thank you for

and some people like thank you for

and some people like thank you for saying that so let me explain wrapping

saying that so let me explain wrapping

saying that so let me explain wrapping is something you do and in 2017 a rapper

is something you do and in 2017 a rapper

is something you do and in 2017 a rapper there’s a profession or an occupation in

there’s a profession or an occupation in

there’s a profession or an occupation in the music industry which is all about

the music industry which is all about

the music industry which is all about making hits selling records and touring

making hits selling records and touring

making hits selling records and touring and thanks to technology anybody can say

and thanks to technology anybody can say

and thanks to technology anybody can say anything and put it to a beat to make

anything and put it to a beat to make

anything and put it to a beat to make rap music but that’s not necessarily

rap music but that’s not necessarily

rap music but that’s not necessarily hip-hop see historically hip-hop has

hip-hop see historically hip-hop has

hip-hop see historically hip-hop has been talked about as a fad a style a

been talked about as a fad a style a

been talked about as a fad a style a culture a movement an industry and even

culture a movement an industry and even

culture a movement an industry and even a nation but for me hip-hop is a way of

a nation but for me hip-hop is a way of

a nation but for me hip-hop is a way of life and hip-hop wouldn’t exist unless

life and hip-hop wouldn’t exist unless

life and hip-hop wouldn’t exist unless people like me assigned a meaning and a

people like me assigned a meaning and a

people like me assigned a meaning and a value to it and then shared that meaning

value to it and then shared that meaning

value to it and then shared that meaning and value at other people who would then

and value at other people who would then

and value at other people who would then share that meaning and value with

share that meaning and value with

share that meaning and value with someone else so that’s how hip-hop works

someone else so that’s how hip-hop works

someone else so that’s how hip-hop works and that’s how hip-hop has traveled all

and that’s how hip-hop has traveled all

and that’s how hip-hop has traveled all over the world I teach an online history

over the world I teach an online history

over the world I teach an online history class called hip-hop America where I

class called hip-hop America where I

class called hip-hop America where I begin talking about the history of

begin talking about the history of

begin talking about the history of hip-hop from the pioneers perspective I

hip-hop from the pioneers perspective I

hip-hop from the pioneers perspective I asked the students to use their

asked the students to use their

asked the students to use their historical imagination to see what the

historical imagination to see what the

historical imagination to see what the Pioneers saw and then I changed the

Pioneers saw and then I changed the

Pioneers saw and then I changed the frame and I say hip-hop is a socially

frame and I say hip-hop is a socially

frame and I say hip-hop is a socially constructed identity or a personal

constructed identity or a personal

constructed identity or a personal identity that we embody or personify and

identity that we embody or personify and

identity that we embody or personify and then we project onto the world until it

then we project onto the world until it

then we project onto the world until it becomes who we are in the world and then

becomes who we are in the world and then

becomes who we are in the world and then what we’re known for then I changed the

what we’re known for then I changed the

what we’re known for then I changed the frame again and I say hip-hop is a

frame again and I say hip-hop is a

frame again and I say hip-hop is a social identity that we share and

social identity that we share and

social identity that we share and co-create with other people but this

co-create with other people but this

co-create with other people but this social identity predates our involvement

social identity predates our involvement

social identity predates our involvement in the music industry see hip-hop is and

in the music industry see hip-hop is and

in the music industry see hip-hop is and hip-hop operates under its own authority

hip-hop operates under its own authority

hip-hop operates under its own authority so hip-hop determines what decides what

so hip-hop determines what decides what

so hip-hop determines what decides what is and is not hip-hop

is and is not hip-hop

is and is not hip-hop so in a way you could say hip-hop is

so in a way you could say hip-hop is

so in a way you could say hip-hop is socially conservative in that it seeks

socially conservative in that it seeks

socially conservative in that it seeks to retain its meaning and value over

to retain its meaning and value over

to retain its meaning and value over time for example hip-hop is nostalgic

time for example hip-hop is nostalgic

time for example hip-hop is nostalgic like when people talk about back in the

like when people talk about back in the

like when people talk about back in the day or when they talk about the Golden

day or when they talk about the Golden

day or when they talk about the Golden Age of hip-hop but at the same time

Age of hip-hop but at the same time

Age of hip-hop but at the same time hip-hop is extremely progressive because

hip-hop is extremely progressive because

hip-hop is extremely progressive because it’s constantly changing and adapting to

it’s constantly changing and adapting to

it’s constantly changing and adapting to new circumstances and giving new meaning

new circumstances and giving new meaning

new circumstances and giving new meaning and value to the anecdotes the

and value to the anecdotes the

and value to the anecdotes the archetypes and stereotypes that already

archetypes and stereotypes that already

archetypes and stereotypes that already give meaning and value to our lives so

give meaning and value to our lives so

give meaning and value to our lives so when I talk about hip-hop in this frame

when I talk about hip-hop in this frame

when I talk about hip-hop in this frame I often refer to it as the changing same

I often refer to it as the changing same

I often refer to it as the changing same but what most people don’t know about

but what most people don’t know about

but what most people don’t know about hip-hop is that it has ethics not morals

hip-hop is that it has ethics not morals

hip-hop is that it has ethics not morals like right or wrong but ethics or

like right or wrong but ethics or

like right or wrong but ethics or personal standards of conduct that

personal standards of conduct that

personal standards of conduct that govern our collective behavior see these

govern our collective behavior see these

govern our collective behavior see these ethics help us keep the alignment

ethics help us keep the alignment

ethics help us keep the alignment between our personal identity and our

between our personal identity and our

between our personal identity and our social identity to create a timeless

social identity to create a timeless

social identity to create a timeless authentic brand that we manifest as

authentic brand that we manifest as

authentic brand that we manifest as individuals or collectively as hip-hop I

individuals or collectively as hip-hop I

individuals or collectively as hip-hop I describe these ethics as don’t bite keep

describe these ethics as don’t bite keep

describe these ethics as don’t bite keep it fresh and don’t fall off okay

it fresh and don’t fall off okay

it fresh and don’t fall off okay don’t bite means don’t copy make up your

don’t bite means don’t copy make up your

don’t bite means don’t copy make up your own moves make up your own rhymes the

own moves make up your own rhymes the

own moves make up your own rhymes the original be unique but that’s not enough

original be unique but that’s not enough

original be unique but that’s not enough you have to be prolific or at the very

you have to be prolific or at the very

you have to be prolific or at the very least you have to make more because what

least you have to make more because what

least you have to make more because what you did before is not good enough

you did before is not good enough

you did before is not good enough anymore therefore you have to keep it

anymore therefore you have to keep it

anymore therefore you have to keep it fresh and new and finally don’t fall off

fresh and new and finally don’t fall off

fresh and new and finally don’t fall off means don’t stop kind of think of it

means don’t stop kind of think of it

means don’t stop kind of think of it like riding a bike don’t stop keep on

like riding a bike don’t stop keep on

like riding a bike don’t stop keep on and in in hips high hip hop’s wisdom

and in in hips high hip hop’s wisdom

and in in hips high hip hop’s wisdom they left us some jewels that we can use

they left us some jewels that we can use

they left us some jewels that we can use in the 21st century especially in this

in the 21st century especially in this

in the 21st century especially in this information economy that we’re in

information economy that we’re in

information economy that we’re in keep looking searching seeking finding

keep looking searching seeking finding

keep looking searching seeking finding and that comes from the hook in a song

and that comes from the hook in a song

and that comes from the hook in a song called planet rock

called planet rock

called planet rock so together all of these efforts help

so together all of these efforts help

so together all of these efforts help one rise above their circumstances to be

one rise above their circumstances to be

one rise above their circumstances to be ascendant or emerging in character hip

ascendant or emerging in character hip

ascendant or emerging in character hip hop would say to be fly or to come up

hop would say to be fly or to come up

hop would say to be fly or to come up and you can do this all by staying up on

and you can do this all by staying up on

and you can do this all by staying up on the new next thing see the people who

the new next thing see the people who

the new next thing see the people who identify themselves as hip hop are

identify themselves as hip hop are

identify themselves as hip hop are engaged in the vigorous pursuit of an

engaged in the vigorous pursuit of an

engaged in the vigorous pursuit of an idealized self where we are constantly

idealized self where we are constantly

idealized self where we are constantly investing ourselves applying ourselves

investing ourselves applying ourselves

investing ourselves applying ourselves and enriching ourselves in an ongoing

and enriching ourselves in an ongoing

and enriching ourselves in an ongoing process of original self creation where

process of original self creation where

process of original self creation where one is consistently being who we are and

one is consistently being who we are and

one is consistently being who we are and always have been but continuously

always have been but continuously

always have been but continuously reinventing ourselves to become who we

reinventing ourselves to become who we

reinventing ourselves to become who we would like to be and in this way hip-hop

would like to be and in this way hip-hop

would like to be and in this way hip-hop has learned to recreate itself into

has learned to recreate itself into

has learned to recreate itself into personalized works of art now art is

personalized works of art now art is

personalized works of art now art is traditionally talked about in terms of

traditionally talked about in terms of

traditionally talked about in terms of materials and techniques and art history

materials and techniques and art history

materials and techniques and art history is all about identifying the value in

is all about identifying the value in

is all about identifying the value in cultural objects but in hip-hop

cultural objects but in hip-hop

cultural objects but in hip-hop we are the cultural object the primary

we are the cultural object the primary

we are the cultural object the primary material is identity and I am is the

material is identity and I am is the

material is identity and I am is the artistic material of life the subject of

artistic material of life the subject of

artistic material of life the subject of our art is the individual but the object

our art is the individual but the object

our art is the individual but the object of our art is the idealized self that is

of our art is the idealized self that is

of our art is the idealized self that is being created so let’s say it another

being created so let’s say it another

being created so let’s say it another way hip-hop is artistic self fashioning

way hip-hop is artistic self fashioning

way hip-hop is artistic self fashioning with the private goal of self creation

with the private goal of self creation

with the private goal of self creation but the public goal of social solidarity

but the public goal of social solidarity

but the public goal of social solidarity so listening let’s think about it like

so listening let’s think about it like

so listening let’s think about it like romantic individualism meets the

romantic individualism meets the

romantic individualism meets the modernist avant-garde always out front

modernist avant-garde always out front

modernist avant-garde always out front always moving forward just a little bit

always moving forward just a little bit

always moving forward just a little bit ahead of the curve

ahead of the curve

ahead of the curve so maybe we should talk about hip-hop

so maybe we should talk about hip-hop

so maybe we should talk about hip-hop the way historians talk about art from

the way historians talk about art from

the way historians talk about art from 30,000 feet up and then we could have

30,000 feet up and then we could have

30,000 feet up and then we could have conversations about hip-hop that are

conversations about hip-hop that are

conversations about hip-hop that are classic romantic modern and postmodern

classic romantic modern and postmodern

classic romantic modern and postmodern and then we could have parallel

and then we could have parallel

and then we could have parallel conversations about the consumer

conversations about the consumer

conversations about the consumer technologies that have enabled or an

technologies that have enabled or an

technologies that have enabled or an empowered hip-hop to broadcast and

empowered hip-hop to broadcast and

empowered hip-hop to broadcast and distribute my ethics in our brands all

distribute my ethics in our brands all

distribute my ethics in our brands all over the world see hip-hop has been

over the world see hip-hop has been

over the world see hip-hop has been constructing authentic brands from

constructing authentic brands from

constructing authentic brands from identities and broadcasting them all

identities and broadcasting them all

identities and broadcasting them all over the world for 44 years and we are

over the world for 44 years and we are

over the world for 44 years and we are very comfortable with social media

very comfortable with social media

very comfortable with social media because like hip hop social media

because like hip hop social media

because like hip hop social media exposes us to a wide array of self

exposes us to a wide array of self

exposes us to a wide array of self representations where we are free to

representations where we are free to

representations where we are free to render depict or construct ourselves in

render depict or construct ourselves in

render depict or construct ourselves in the world as desired we’re constantly

the world as desired we’re constantly

the world as desired we’re constantly borrowing bits and pieces of identity

borrowing bits and pieces of identity

borrowing bits and pieces of identity and assembling them as necessary or as

and assembling them as necessary or as

and assembling them as necessary or as needed to be anything at any given time

needed to be anything at any given time

needed to be anything at any given time as long as it’s consistent with our

as long as it’s consistent with our

as long as it’s consistent with our personal brand so let me recap it’s time

personal brand so let me recap it’s time

personal brand so let me recap it’s time to have a sustained dialogue about what

to have a sustained dialogue about what

to have a sustained dialogue about what hip-hop is and what it is not

hip-hop is and what it is not

hip-hop is and what it is not hip-hop needs a place or space where

hip-hop needs a place or space where

hip-hop needs a place or space where people can go to explore experiment and

people can go to explore experiment and

people can go to explore experiment and reflect on hip hop’s cultural production

reflect on hip hop’s cultural production

reflect on hip hop’s cultural production process and we need to bring together

process and we need to bring together

process and we need to bring together partners from media academia and

partners from media academia and

partners from media academia and advertising to talk about hip-hop as a

advertising to talk about hip-hop as a

advertising to talk about hip-hop as a 21st century institution so let me close

21st century institution so let me close

21st century institution so let me close with another one of those hip-hop

with another one of those hip-hop

with another one of those hip-hop moments on August 11th 2017 Google

moments on August 11th 2017 Google

moments on August 11th 2017 Google commemorated the 44th birthday of

commemorated the 44th birthday of

commemorated the 44th birthday of hip-hop with the doodle that explained

hip-hop with the doodle that explained

hip-hop with the doodle that explained how when and where hip-hop was born it

how when and where hip-hop was born it

how when and where hip-hop was born it was fantastic it was animated it was

was fantastic it was animated it was

was fantastic it was animated it was interactive and it was hip hop on the

interactive and it was hip hop on the

interactive and it was hip hop on the big digital stage

big digital stage

big digital stage but that night here in Charlottesville

but that night here in Charlottesville

but that night here in Charlottesville there were some protesters with torches

there were some protesters with torches

there were some protesters with torches that made their way to the lawn and the

that made their way to the lawn and the

that made their way to the lawn and the next day violence broke out about a

next day violence broke out about a

next day violence broke out about a block away from where I’m standing and

block away from where I’m standing and

block away from where I’m standing and it made me feel the kind of way about

it made me feel the kind of way about

it made me feel the kind of way about giving his talk

but on August 13th 2017

but on August 13th 2017 President Barack Obama responded to the

President Barack Obama responded to the

President Barack Obama responded to the events in Charlottesville with a tweet

events in Charlottesville with a tweet

events in Charlottesville with a tweet that became the most liked tweet in the

that became the most liked tweet in the

that became the most liked tweet in the history of Twitter so here we have the

history of Twitter so here we have the

history of Twitter so here we have the 44th President of the United States

44th President of the United States

44th President of the United States using social media to respond to the

using social media to respond to the

using social media to respond to the events in Charlottesville just two days

events in Charlottesville just two days

events in Charlottesville just two days after hip hop turn 44 so I don’t know if

after hip hop turn 44 so I don’t know if

after hip hop turn 44 so I don’t know if President Obama considers himself to be

President Obama considers himself to be

President Obama considers himself to be hip hop but he used his authentic

hip hop but he used his authentic

hip hop but he used his authentic personal brand to reframe the events in

personal brand to reframe the events in

personal brand to reframe the events in Charlottesville and give them new

Charlottesville and give them new

Charlottesville and give them new meaning and value so if he’s not hip hop

meaning and value so if he’s not hip hop

meaning and value so if he’s not hip hop he’s the closest to being hip hop we

he’s the closest to being hip hop we

he’s the closest to being hip hop we have ever seen in an American president

and I know that if we don’t have this

and I know that if we don’t have this sustained dialogue about what hip-hop is

sustained dialogue about what hip-hop is

sustained dialogue about what hip-hop is and what it is not

and what it is not

and what it is not then hip-hop has the potential to become

then hip-hop has the potential to become

then hip-hop has the potential to become even more like the president we have now

even more like the president we have now

even more like the president we have now thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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