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I was destined to

I was destined to Oh level at that point in time

Oh level at that point in time

Oh level at that point in time is critical to get French said he could

is critical to get French said he could

is critical to get French said he could get into University

get into University

get into University my parents were determined that I should

my parents were determined that I should

my parents were determined that I should pass the route map for that was to send

pass the route map for that was to send

pass the route map for that was to send me on a French exchange I arrived in

me on a French exchange I arrived in

me on a French exchange I arrived in Leon

Leon

Leon at age 15 and was picked up by Pierre

at age 15 and was picked up by Pierre

at age 15 and was picked up by Pierre that was his name and his father and

that was his name and his father and

that was his name and his father and driven to their home in Mecca and within

driven to their home in Mecca and within

driven to their home in Mecca and within the first day my first cultural

the first day my first cultural

the first day my first cultural experience was to be taken to a field

experience was to be taken to a field

experience was to be taken to a field just outside McCall where a new station

just outside McCall where a new station

just outside McCall where a new station had been built where the TGV the new

had been built where the TGV the new

had been built where the TGV the new French high-speed rail line had just

French high-speed rail line had just

French high-speed rail line had just been newly constructed Pierre’s father

been newly constructed Pierre’s father

been newly constructed Pierre’s father had an extraordinary interest in this

had an extraordinary interest in this

had an extraordinary interest in this trade line slightly amusing and

trade line slightly amusing and

trade line slightly amusing and encouraged me to listen to the line the

encouraged me to listen to the line the

encouraged me to listen to the line the line sang when the train approached a

line sang when the train approached a

line sang when the train approached a cootie litter he said to me somewhat

cootie litter he said to me somewhat

cootie litter he said to me somewhat excitedly and you can probably tell that

excitedly and you can probably tell that

excitedly and you can probably tell that I only just passed French au level what

I only just passed French au level what

I only just passed French au level what was extraordinary about that and in

was extraordinary about that and in

was extraordinary about that and in reflecting upon that was that pS father

reflecting upon that was that pS father

reflecting upon that was that pS father had an extrordinary pride in what had

had an extrordinary pride in what had

had an extrordinary pride in what had just arrived on his doorstep it had put

just arrived on his doorstep it had put

just arrived on his doorstep it had put his town on the map but it had also

his town on the map but it had also

his town on the map but it had also given him a great sense of pride he was

given him a great sense of pride he was

given him a great sense of pride he was part of something national as well as

part of something national as well as

part of something national as well as local if I was to ask you the question

local if I was to ask you the question

local if I was to ask you the question and it may well indeed affect you as

and it may well indeed affect you as

and it may well indeed affect you as it’s affected me if somebody was to tell

it’s affected me if somebody was to tell

it’s affected me if somebody was to tell you that a new rail Lane line was going

you that a new rail Lane line was going

you that a new rail Lane line was going to arrive within 500 metres of your town

to arrive within 500 metres of your town

to arrive within 500 metres of your town or village one would you be happy to

or village one would you be happy to

or village one would you be happy to would you take of guests within 24 hours

would you take of guests within 24 hours

would you take of guests within 24 hours of arriving at your home to stand at the

of arriving at your home to stand at the

of arriving at your home to stand at the station and wonder how marvelous it was

station and wonder how marvelous it was

station and wonder how marvelous it was I fancy the answer is probably no

however the question is why do we feel

however the question is why do we feel like that I think culturally we are

like that I think culturally we are

like that I think culturally we are fearful of change and change leads to a

fearful of change and change leads to a

fearful of change and change leads to a number of fears and more often than that

number of fears and more often than that

number of fears and more often than that that can be related to a fear of the

that can be related to a fear of the

that can be related to a fear of the unknown and a fear of lack of

unknown and a fear of lack of

unknown and a fear of lack of information so

information so

information so position that the UK now faces is that

position that the UK now faces is that

position that the UK now faces is that there are many projects coming forward

there are many projects coming forward

there are many projects coming forward we are now at a period of time in our

we are now at a period of time in our

we are now at a period of time in our history perhaps the first time since the

history perhaps the first time since the

history perhaps the first time since the Victorian area era and certainly

Victorian area era and certainly

Victorian area era and certainly probably since cold war since war

probably since cold war since war

probably since cold war since war post-war reconstruction where there is

post-war reconstruction where there is

post-war reconstruction where there is massive change in development and in

massive change in development and in

massive change in development and in infrastructure planning so a lot of

infrastructure planning so a lot of

infrastructure planning so a lot of development of this type is emerging and

development of this type is emerging and

development of this type is emerging and becoming part of our society and culture

becoming part of our society and culture

becoming part of our society and culture I honestly believe that part of the

I honestly believe that part of the

I honestly believe that part of the issue connected with people’s fear is

issue connected with people’s fear is

issue connected with people’s fear is the way that these projects are

the way that these projects are

the way that these projects are communicated and the lack of story or

communicated and the lack of story or

communicated and the lack of story or narrative behind the reasons why I think

narrative behind the reasons why I think

narrative behind the reasons why I think also people fear these projects because

also people fear these projects because

also people fear these projects because of the lack of engagement with them and

of the lack of engagement with them and

of the lack of engagement with them and the lack of understanding of them and I

the lack of understanding of them and I

the lack of understanding of them and I certainly don’t think there is much

certainly don’t think there is much

certainly don’t think there is much pride welling up in people’s hearts when

pride welling up in people’s hearts when

pride welling up in people’s hearts when they think about these projects and I

they think about these projects and I

they think about these projects and I think that’s a shame some people say

think that’s a shame some people say

think that’s a shame some people say that we get the history we deserve I

that we get the history we deserve I

that we get the history we deserve I think the position probably is more that

think the position probably is more that

think the position probably is more that the future generations will get the

the future generations will get the

the future generations will get the history that we determine right now and

history that we determine right now and

history that we determine right now and we have a responsibility as members of

we have a responsibility as members of

we have a responsibility as members of society within government and as

society within government and as

society within government and as consultants of my type to make sure that

consultants of my type to make sure that

consultants of my type to make sure that legacy and that inheritance is a good

legacy and that inheritance is a good

legacy and that inheritance is a good one these projects last certainly much

one these projects last certainly much

one these projects last certainly much longer than a political cycle of five

longer than a political cycle of five

longer than a political cycle of five years they tend to last in the hundreds

years they tend to last in the hundreds

years they tend to last in the hundreds of years and as a result this I think

of years and as a result this I think

of years and as a result this I think should change the way we think about

should change the way we think about

should change the way we think about things and the value we place on them

things and the value we place on them

things and the value we place on them more often than not these projects are

more often than not these projects are

more often than not these projects are really scrutinized under one single

really scrutinized under one single

really scrutinized under one single theme which relates to economic

theme which relates to economic

theme which relates to economic efficiency operational efficiency but as

efficiency operational efficiency but as

efficiency operational efficiency but as a society is that enough and if we were

a society is that enough and if we were

a society is that enough and if we were to project 500 years ahead and ask those

to project 500 years ahead and ask those

to project 500 years ahead and ask those generations to look back is that really

generations to look back is that really

generations to look back is that really going to be enough to mark us in this

going to be enough to mark us in this

going to be enough to mark us in this period of history as being sufficient

infrastructure has many different scales

infrastructure has many different scales I think probably for most of us when we

I think probably for most of us when we

I think probably for most of us when we talk about it it’s the mega project a

talk about it it’s the mega project a

talk about it it’s the mega project a large national project that somehow

large national project that somehow

large national project that somehow spans a number of regions is centralized

spans a number of regions is centralized

spans a number of regions is centralized through government but infrastructure

through government but infrastructure

through government but infrastructure also deals with a small scale and the

also deals with a small scale and the

also deals with a small scale and the light in the everyday is a really

light in the everyday is a really

light in the everyday is a really important part of making these projects

important part of making these projects

important part of making these projects a contribution to life rather than a

a contribution to life rather than a

a contribution to life rather than a diss benefit to life going back to my

diss benefit to life going back to my

diss benefit to life going back to my own childhood the village I grew up in

own childhood the village I grew up in

own childhood the village I grew up in in Surrey started as a small rural

in Surrey started as a small rural

in Surrey started as a small rural community with a very strong estate

community with a very strong estate

community with a very strong estate behind it but with the coming of the

behind it but with the coming of the

behind it but with the coming of the rail line this little dot on the map

rail line this little dot on the map

rail line this little dot on the map grew to become possibly what I would

grew to become possibly what I would

grew to become possibly what I would call some form of a Acadian delight I’m

call some form of a Acadian delight I’m

call some form of a Acadian delight I’m certainly a lovely place to grow up

certainly a lovely place to grow up

certainly a lovely place to grow up facilitated by this wonderful rail line

facilitated by this wonderful rail line

facilitated by this wonderful rail line that extended up to Waterloo it also had

that extended up to Waterloo it also had

that extended up to Waterloo it also had a wonderful waiting station a waiting

a wonderful waiting station a waiting

a wonderful waiting station a waiting room where my now wife and I spent many

room where my now wife and I spent many

room where my now wife and I spent many happy hours waiting to catch the train

happy hours waiting to catch the train

happy hours waiting to catch the train to school it even had an open fire that

to school it even had an open fire that

to school it even had an open fire that was stoked by the Polish lady who go to

was stoked by the Polish lady who go to

was stoked by the Polish lady who go to the station every morning in the winter

the station every morning in the winter

the station every morning in the winter it was there ready so these elements of

it was there ready so these elements of

it was there ready so these elements of delights the importance of the

delights the importance of the

delights the importance of the granularity of the approach we take in

granularity of the approach we take in

granularity of the approach we take in design is a very important part of

design is a very important part of

design is a very important part of making these projects significant and

making these projects significant and

making these projects significant and material to the quality of our life I

want to run through three examples which

want to run through three examples which are perhaps contrasting we certainly can

are perhaps contrasting we certainly can

are perhaps contrasting we certainly can learn from history we can learn history

learn from history we can learn history

learn from history we can learn history but we can also learn from history the

but we can also learn from history the

but we can also learn from history the first project I want to talk about very

first project I want to talk about very

first project I want to talk about very briefly is a project that Joseph

briefly is a project that Joseph

briefly is a project that Joseph Bazalgette undertook at the embankment

Bazalgette undertook at the embankment

Bazalgette undertook at the embankment this project really demonstrates the

this project really demonstrates the

this project really demonstrates the issues connected with making investment

issues connected with making investment

issues connected with making investment work hard for a little bit more spent

work hard for a little bit more spent

work hard for a little bit more spent you get an awful lot more for your money

you get an awful lot more for your money

you get an awful lot more for your money battle Jets brief was to solve the

battle Jets brief was to solve the

battle Jets brief was to solve the cholera problem for London there was an

cholera problem for London there was an

cholera problem for London there was an operational imperative but rather than

operational imperative but rather than

operational imperative but rather than just find a route for the pie

just find a route for the pie

just find a route for the pie he established the embankment the

he established the embankment the

he established the embankment the embankment is something for those who

embankment is something for those who

embankment is something for those who live in London that we probably hold

live in London that we probably hold

live in London that we probably hold dear as a fantastic piece of civic

dear as a fantastic piece of civic

dear as a fantastic piece of civic public realm it didn’t only just find a

public realm it didn’t only just find a

public realm it didn’t only just find a route for the foul route for sewage from

route for the foul route for sewage from

route for the foul route for sewage from London

London

London when basil jet designed it he also

when basil jet designed it he also

when basil jet designed it he also designed it to take the underground

designed it to take the underground

designed it to take the underground train routes into London he doubled the

train routes into London he doubled the

train routes into London he doubled the size of the pipes because he had a

size of the pipes because he had a

size of the pipes because he had a forecast that London was going to grow

forecast that London was going to grow

forecast that London was going to grow so one in the same time he both answered

so one in the same time he both answered

so one in the same time he both answered the operational need but at the same

the operational need but at the same

the operational need but at the same time created three other possible

time created three other possible

time created three other possible benefits in addition the way we think

benefits in addition the way we think

benefits in addition the way we think about infrastructure right now tends to

about infrastructure right now tends to

about infrastructure right now tends to be single-minded every project for

be single-minded every project for

be single-minded every project for itself there is a singularity of intent

itself there is a singularity of intent

itself there is a singularity of intent and the way the economics is constructed

and the way the economics is constructed

and the way the economics is constructed around these projects the opportunity

around these projects the opportunity

around these projects the opportunity for collaboration and for the creation

for collaboration and for the creation

for collaboration and for the creation of mutual benefit is very very difficult

of mutual benefit is very very difficult

of mutual benefit is very very difficult to secure in complete contrast to the

to secure in complete contrast to the

to secure in complete contrast to the embankment and bringing us slightly more

embankment and bringing us slightly more

embankment and bringing us slightly more up-to-date this is old oak old oak is

up-to-date this is old oak old oak is

up-to-date this is old oak old oak is planned as London’s next major new

planned as London’s next major new

planned as London’s next major new development area it will be taller

development area it will be taller

development area it will be taller denser and bigger than Canary Wharf

denser and bigger than Canary Wharf

denser and bigger than Canary Wharf why do I raise this I raise this because

why do I raise this I raise this because

why do I raise this I raise this because this area of London is probably one of

this area of London is probably one of

this area of London is probably one of the most challenged in terms of the

the most challenged in terms of the

the most challenged in terms of the history of infrastructure planning David

history of infrastructure planning David

history of infrastructure planning David did say I would be able to reach the

did say I would be able to reach the

did say I would be able to reach the screen but I can’t but what I will tell

screen but I can’t but what I will tell

screen but I can’t but what I will tell you and just guide you hopefully you can

you and just guide you hopefully you can

you and just guide you hopefully you can see here the wiggly line running through

see here the wiggly line running through

see here the wiggly line running through which is the Grand Union canal and a

which is the Grand Union canal and a

which is the Grand Union canal and a series of railway lines that crisscross

series of railway lines that crisscross

series of railway lines that crisscross the scene here this large area coming in

the scene here this large area coming in

the scene here this large area coming in here is the cross rail on construction

here is the cross rail on construction

here is the cross rail on construction terminal and very soon hs2 as it funders

terminal and very soon hs2 as it funders

terminal and very soon hs2 as it funders down from Birmingham will come in with a

down from Birmingham will come in with a

down from Birmingham will come in with a new station here to reach here and reach

new station here to reach here and reach

new station here to reach here and reach North Acton the challenge is massive

North Acton the challenge is massive

North Acton the challenge is massive that area will have to be decked over to

that area will have to be decked over to

that area will have to be decked over to cross over the cross rail Depot

cross over the cross rail Depot

cross over the cross rail Depot and there will be a series of islands

and there will be a series of islands

and there will be a series of islands connected by bridges as a result of the

connected by bridges as a result of the

connected by bridges as a result of the nature of the engineering the history

nature of the engineering the history

nature of the engineering the history that’s been inherited at old oak the

that’s been inherited at old oak the

that’s been inherited at old oak the change that North action that has gone

change that North action that has gone

change that North action that has gone through historically is ultimately the

through historically is ultimately the

through historically is ultimately the separation of what is commonly known as

separation of what is commonly known as

separation of what is commonly known as the Scrubs common to the south this

the Scrubs common to the south this

the Scrubs common to the south this extraordinary open space and natural

extraordinary open space and natural

extraordinary open space and natural habitat and Acton to the north this

habitat and Acton to the north this

habitat and Acton to the north this isn’t really something we want to repeat

isn’t really something we want to repeat

isn’t really something we want to repeat and it does require collaboration and

and it does require collaboration and

and it does require collaboration and forward thinking to avoid future

forward thinking to avoid future

forward thinking to avoid future challenges such as this bringing some

challenges such as this bringing some

challenges such as this bringing some right up to date I now take you to Wales

right up to date I now take you to Wales

right up to date I now take you to Wales this project is the Swansea tidal lagoon

this project is the Swansea tidal lagoon

this project is the Swansea tidal lagoon that David mentioned very briefly this

that David mentioned very briefly this

that David mentioned very briefly this project from my perspective has a very

project from my perspective has a very

project from my perspective has a very clear narrative it has a very clear

clear narrative it has a very clear

clear narrative it has a very clear vision and it’s going to do a lot more

vision and it’s going to do a lot more

vision and it’s going to do a lot more than merely generate electricity by

than merely generate electricity by

than merely generate electricity by letting the water flood through massive

letting the water flood through massive

letting the water flood through massive turbines as the tie goes out and comes

turbines as the tie goes out and comes

turbines as the tie goes out and comes in yes it does that but it does several

in yes it does that but it does several

in yes it does that but it does several other things as well it will protect

other things as well it will protect

other things as well it will protect Swansea from tidal surges it allows for

Swansea from tidal surges it allows for

Swansea from tidal surges it allows for free movement of traffic in the city

free movement of traffic in the city

free movement of traffic in the city prompting further regeneration it

prompting further regeneration it

prompting further regeneration it provides increased natural resource in

provides increased natural resource in

provides increased natural resource in terms of beaches and saltwater marshes

terms of beaches and saltwater marshes

terms of beaches and saltwater marshes and the word mitigation doesn’t really

and the word mitigation doesn’t really

and the word mitigation doesn’t really apply here the project has been

apply here the project has been

apply here the project has been developed as one single answer working

developed as one single answer working

developed as one single answer working through a series of collaborative

through a series of collaborative

through a series of collaborative endeavours to answer a series of

endeavours to answer a series of

endeavours to answer a series of problems so this project in many ways

problems so this project in many ways

problems so this project in many ways strikes the balance in my view of

strikes the balance in my view of

strikes the balance in my view of bringing forward operationally efficient

bringing forward operationally efficient

bringing forward operationally efficient infrastructure but at one at the same

infrastructure but at one at the same

infrastructure but at one at the same time connecting with local people this

time connecting with local people this

time connecting with local people this project probably from my perspective is

project probably from my perspective is

project probably from my perspective is characterized by something I would like

characterized by something I would like

characterized by something I would like to call enlightened self-interest the

to call enlightened self-interest the

to call enlightened self-interest the concept that by doing good to others you

concept that by doing good to others you

concept that by doing good to others you will also benefit if infrastructure

will also benefit if infrastructure

will also benefit if infrastructure projects as they move forward can be

projects as they move forward can be

projects as they move forward can be more self enlightened and take this

more self enlightened and take this

more self enlightened and take this approach than I think we’ll be in a much

approach than I think we’ll be in a much

approach than I think we’ll be in a much better place so what do we learn

better place so what do we learn

better place so what do we learn from this project this project takes us

from this project this project takes us

from this project this project takes us to a point where I believe there is a

to a point where I believe there is a

to a point where I believe there is a positive legacy to be left the client in

positive legacy to be left the client in

positive legacy to be left the client in this particular instance is entirely

this particular instance is entirely

this particular instance is entirely driven by creating positive legacy but

driven by creating positive legacy but

driven by creating positive legacy but the position that this project now sits

the position that this project now sits

the position that this project now sits in is that at the moment government is

in is that at the moment government is

in is that at the moment government is not willing to sanction the movement of

not willing to sanction the movement of

not willing to sanction the movement of this project moving forward

this project moving forward

this project moving forward it has planning permission it’s been

it has planning permission it’s been

it has planning permission it’s been through an independent review by Charles

through an independent review by Charles

through an independent review by Charles Henry appointed by the government but at

Henry appointed by the government but at

Henry appointed by the government but at the moment the government can’t see or

the moment the government can’t see or

the moment the government can’t see or doesn’t seem to have the mechanics to be

doesn’t seem to have the mechanics to be

doesn’t seem to have the mechanics to be able to make a judgement on a project

able to make a judgement on a project

able to make a judgement on a project that not only produces electricity the

that not only produces electricity the

that not only produces electricity the single-minded object but actually a

single-minded object but actually a

single-minded object but actually a project that starts to deliver more than

project that starts to deliver more than

project that starts to deliver more than that so we have a problem with the way

that so we have a problem with the way

that so we have a problem with the way that these projects are examined what we

that these projects are examined what we

that these projects are examined what we seem to be unable to do is place value

seem to be unable to do is place value

seem to be unable to do is place value on place community and amenity and these

on place community and amenity and these

on place community and amenity and these are very important values that need to

are very important values that need to

are very important values that need to be added to the simplicity of economics

be added to the simplicity of economics

be added to the simplicity of economics and going back to my earlier point as a

and going back to my earlier point as a

and going back to my earlier point as a generation in the future looks back

generation in the future looks back

generation in the future looks back should all our projects be merely

should all our projects be merely

should all our projects be merely operationally and economically efficient

operationally and economically efficient

operationally and economically efficient surely there must be something else so I

surely there must be something else so I

surely there must be something else so I leave you with one final thought as a

leave you with one final thought as a

leave you with one final thought as a number of the guests have today and it’s

number of the guests have today and it’s

number of the guests have today and it’s clearly part of the tutoring we have had

clearly part of the tutoring we have had

clearly part of the tutoring we have had my question is we all will leave a mark

my question is we all will leave a mark

my question is we all will leave a mark in history somewhere like it or not that

in history somewhere like it or not that

in history somewhere like it or not that can be as globally as on society a

can be as globally as on society a

can be as globally as on society a culture at a mega scale but it might be

culture at a mega scale but it might be

culture at a mega scale but it might be right down to the small scale to a

right down to the small scale to a

right down to the small scale to a family to a community to an individual

family to a community to an individual

family to a community to an individual child my question is for all of us is

child my question is for all of us is

child my question is for all of us is what is our individual legacy and how do

what is our individual legacy and how do

what is our individual legacy and how do we leave that legacy in a positive place

we leave that legacy in a positive place

we leave that legacy in a positive place now and feel that we’ve been able to

now and feel that we’ve been able to

now and feel that we’ve been able to contribute to either society or or

contribute to either society or or

contribute to either society or or family so I leave it there and I have 33

family so I leave it there and I have 33

family so I leave it there and I have 33 seconds left and I think we’re done

seconds left and I think we’re done

seconds left and I think we’re done thank you very much indeed

thank you very much indeed

thank you very much indeed [Applause]

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