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Good evening to all of you tonight
I will talk therapy talk about therapy not
it is something that lies beyond
some words and there is someone who says
that talking about music is possible
talk about music and how to dance
architecture now to pirate the appearance
provocative of this statement
we must recognize that to try to
translating from the ambit are music to the
words is a challenge but in collecting
what is music therapy
surely music therapy is not a
musical massage done in a center
well being and not a playlist for
entice the production centers or
concentrate a definition recommending
music therapy so it would be something
which is more connected to the relationship
to the expression of communication la
music therapy is aimed at people who
they may have some difficulties
physical difficulties of the difficulties
expressive and relational ways of
difficulties and find in the
of the musical experience the possibility
to stay
the action of music another way of
express ourselves get to the then then
he meant ok all very interesting
but what happens in a session of
music therapy what you do
how it is possible to play counts with
someone who can not play one
tool we could start from an example
that is that of a child that maybe
does not have access to the channel for bars and some
talk about problems and then that
what can you do you can stay in one
relationship between seems that I make a sound
quality a high then I answer as one
other sound
then maybe we are together and
that gradually becomes structured in one
sound dialogue in which child maybe
can feel in the block included in
relationship is perhaps the potential
aggression that could come out
also from this distraction of the
being able to talk could fade but
we could imagine another site that
they are another field of intervention of the
music therapy such as a group
of people who face the
mental health problem e
so finding yourself together can play
together make a rhythm together can
be an experience that goes beyond
of words beyond talking about
own programs
we could even imagine another one
still situation of music therapy that
they are of faces and people who are
facing cancer and
so feel good that there is between the
music with someone I give you something
similar was the last thing he wanted
to get playing the instruments
without wise even playing
here instead we find them really strong
I will even do the metaphorical
of the musical experience to be able to stay in
a musical sound relationship and which
I wonder if and as seen heard if
that as I am serving the other this is
strongly disruptive for those who reflect
on their existential dynamics e
also the anguish the fear linked to
disease can be expressed through
sound downloads of some cases but
we could even imagine a situation
completely different indeed
music therapy finds employment and for
example in the field of care
palliative , perhaps a person who
he is facing his last days
act of existence
perhaps the stranger the action is one
sound with a listening in a certain type
proposed in a certain way powers that
sense of sharing of relationship
earlier than maybe the words do
fatigue to hachiko
we could imagine another situation
completely different like that of a
group of teenagers who need
to experiment without interacting
they need to test the rule that
they need to see the reaction
of the other and then try to give one
It also forms extreme sound to what it is
it is always then then
we can see that my team of
they silentina applies to many
montesi different and it is just this
it is its specificity and research of
bring music not as a goal but
as a testament instrument that is everything
very nice interesting but ok but that
what scientific data we can
prove that the functions it is
really a result because we should
because you definitely feel path
magic of beer
now there is a growing body of evidence
scientific studies both quantitative
that qualitative that prove that there
left as you could say both in
scope of the bottles both within the scope
environmental health and ecology
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for those interested it can
address the couple more to the magazines
specialist in the sector
but the question I would like to ask you cp
together in fact also because now
This is what I do not see but it is this
even if I can
to evaluate that it is a path of
music therapy to a certain effect
on the expressive capacity of one
person that this is a part
important work what it is
really significant can be
even everything I can not do
measure this instant too
I’m talking this between discounting us
it’s your expressive reactions
pro silky but there is a whole universe of
internal resonances that maybe not
leaked they see each other but that maybe they are
equally important
paradoxically put a flower room
of a sick person or receive visits
to the needs demonstrated this thing of
how significant these really are
we need to prove it
a person’s need for beauty
that suffers and this really system is
the logic with which we place ourselves with respect to
these things
and this however is not a speech that
goes to deny the need for one
measurement but it is humanization that there
portable well with current tools
lesmo measure of the whole series of things
but there are a whole range of other things
which are hardly measurable but
also intuitively and I can through
experience witness this but
meaningful the phrase of I think with a
bar and this opens this day and
these shared reflections
I find it beautiful when we have
just thought of helping to do this
and stand out and hit because there is one
part of the house and that people trust her
flyer but I would like to reshuffle
behind particular and says the following
there are people who have lived longer
intensely more broadly
torturously others who have
lived outside life counts the
result
what we have heard and what
we have lived and trained beauty
of this great cases of people
the interesting thing that is connected
another sentence of pessoa that was
taken from antonio damasio an important one
neuro scientist that
the road book mind for intends on the
functioning of the human mind and the
word a lorca point and it is the sentence that
It takes back to it this is my soul
it is a mysterious orchestra
I do not know what instruments sounds or screams
inside me short faults and gable art
and drums
I know myself as a symphony and here it is
the interesting aspect because if I
I could imagine being in relationships
with my thoughts with the presence of
someone else in the same way
with which I listen to music
maybe this could act on the way in
which national mile cat and if the
music therapy beyond its areas of
specific intervention of disability
in the third age with children and tourism
via saying watcher case to mention
could also be an example of
how we can relate to
ourselves and with others
maybe this could have important
environmental ethical social consequences
we are always the language
I speak and then listen to this moment
we talk seriously we do not change
the position is that music can do
something different
we can produce two at the same time
sounds and summation of those sounds
in those sounds I can find both
me that in this as a model of
thought of the relationship can be
very important
all this perhaps is clearer if
let’s have a little listening together here
it’s a music
musical interaction
an improvisation with a person
important given also to think about the situation
I would just avoid focusing on the aspects
musical present the idea person on one
life novoli are in piano and that
who said he had a relationship
to listen to what he is doing
version that moment is staying in
report therefore dialogue with this e
if you fear that from english years of the globe
there is not a certain point one outlines
first fragment me or a notina then
another and then there is something that happens
on an advance request to leave
from listening
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with contents try to bring that
what’s going on with this stuff you have
heard of the words we can
share only what you can defend
comment and share then it is
this that I wanted to tell you credit
music therapy is something that lives
in the specific years he asks for it
specific skills are evening
psychological music but that it can
also being a model of how we are
in relation to how we think ours
way of being with extended others is a
way we are constantly constantly
more urged by gives so many stimuli
visual acoustic sound images that
saying I have a global experience
I say but how I’m listening to what I do
it’s happening as I’m listening
to the other as our listening can
mutual have a positive impact on
suter and on our action
I thank
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